[Fedora-directory-users] NSUniqueID

Richard Megginson rmeggins at redhat.com
Tue May 15 19:30:19 UTC 2007


Bjorn Oglefjorn wrote:
> I've edited out the personal/company details, but here is the result 
> of the query.  Looks interesting, I've never seen this before.  Is 
> there a good section in the docs on how to read this?
No.  It's not intended for users to read.  It's mostly interesting for 
developers, for debugging purposes.
>
> dn: uid=auser,ou=People,dc=example,dc=com
> nscpEntryWsi: dn: uid=auser,ou=People,dc=example,dc=com
> nscpEntryWsi: 
> modifyTimestamp;adcsn-4648d7560000000b0000;vucsn-4648d7560000000b0000: 
> 20070514213629Z
> nscpEntryWsi: 
> modifiersName;adcsn-4648d7560000000b0000;vucsn-4648d7560000000b0000: 
> uid=modifier,ou=people,dc=example,dc=com
> nscpEntryWsi: 
> mail;adcsn-4648d7560000000b0000;vucsn-4648d7560000000b0000: 
> auser at example.com <mailto:auser at example.com>
> nscpEntryWsi: mail;vucsn-4648d7560000000b0000: auser at email.example.com 
> <mailto:auser at email.example.com>
> nscpEntryWsi: mail;vucsn-4648d7560000000b0000: 
> Another.User at example.com <mailto:Another.User at example.com>
> nscpEntryWsi: entrydn: uid=auser,ou=people,dc=example,dc=com
> nscpEntryWsi: entryid: 2803
> <snip>
> nscpEntryWsi: nsUniqueId: 647b2b01-1dd211b2-80c7e758-74ea0000
This looks like the entry before modification?  What does the entry look 
like after modification?  Another attribute you can use to uniquely 
identify an entry in a single backend is the entryid attribute.  
However, the entryid is not globally unique across all backends and 
replicas.
>
> Thanks again Richard.
> --BO
>
> On 5/15/07, *Richard Megginson* < rmeggins at redhat.com 
> <mailto:rmeggins at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>     Bjorn Oglefjorn wrote:
>     > On 5/15/07, *Richard Megginson* < rmeggins at redhat.com
>     <mailto:rmeggins at redhat.com>
>     > <mailto:rmeggins at redhat.com <mailto:rmeggins at redhat.com>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Bjorn Oglefjorn wrote:
>     >     > On 5/15/07, *Richard Megginson* < rmeggins at redhat.com
>     <mailto:rmeggins at redhat.com>
>     >     <mailto:rmeggins at redhat.com <mailto:rmeggins at redhat.com>>
>     >     > <mailto:rmeggins at redhat.com <mailto:rmeggins at redhat.com>
>     <mailto:rmeggins at redhat.com <mailto:rmeggins at redhat.com>>>> wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     Bjorn Oglefjorn wrote:
>     >     >     > That's the problem Richard, I'm not sure how it
>     >     happens.  I can tell
>     >     >     > you this much though.  I am using NSUniqueID as a
>     globally
>     >     unique id
>     >     >     > for a one-way sync agreement to a specific application
>     >     (from FDS to
>     >     >     > the application).  The requirement for the globally
>     unique
>     >     id is
>     >     >     that
>     >     >     > it never changes.  If it somehow does change, the sync
>     >     process
>     >     >     > provides an error stating that the globally unique
>     ids in FDS
>     >     >     and the
>     >     >     > application no longer match.  I can't determine exactly
>     >     what is
>     >     >     > causing this change, but I do know that it is happening.
>     >     >     But how does the sync process/application determine
>     that the
>     >     unique ID
>     >     >     has changed?  And is it possible that some application is
>     >     writing
>     >     >     to the
>     >     >     nsUniqueID attribute and changing its value
>     externally?  Are
>     >     you using
>     >     >     replication?
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     > There is no application that has write access to our LDAP
>     user tree.
>     >     > I am using a dual multi-master replication setup.  What about
>     >     > replication would cause the NSUniqueID to change?
>     >     If you delete an entry then add it back with the same DN and
>     mail
>     >     value,
>     >     it will generate a new nsUniqueID for the new entry.  Also,
>     certain
>     >     replication operations may generate replication conflict
>     entries.  In
>     >     this case, you could see two entries with the same mail
>     attribute but
>     >     different nsUniqueID values and different DNs.
>     >
>     >
>     > The entry was not deleted, only the mail attribute was
>     modified.  The
>     > RDN contains the uid of the entry.
>     Could you perhaps post the entry before and after the modification?  I
>     would really like to see the entry with all of the replication state
>     information.  You can get this by listing the special attribute
>     nscpEntryWsi e.g.
>     ldapsearch .... (nsuniqueid=value) nscpEntryWsi
>
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>     >
>     >     To check for this, do a search for each of the "duplicate"
>     nsUniqueID
>     >     values using a search filter like this:
>     >     (|(nsuniqueid=value1)(objectclass=nsTombstone))
>     >     and
>     >     (|(nsuniqueid=value2)(objectclass=nsTombstone))
>     >
>     >
>     > The first filter returns nothing (implying that there are no
>     entries
>     > in the directory with objectclass=nsTombstone).
>     Replication update procedures may create tombstones.  Those entries do
>     not show up unless you specify that filter in your search request.  So
>     if the entry is a tombstone, and you did a search for
>     (nsuniqueid=value)
>     the entry would not be returned unless you added
>     |(objectclass=nsTombstone) to the search filter.
>     > The second filter returns the entry in question.  That seems to be
>     > what one would normally expect if there hadn't been a change in the
>     > nsuniqueid, correct?
>     Yes.
>     >
>     >     >
>     >     >     For example, does your sync app do something like this:
>     >     >     get entry by name e.g . (uid=somename).  Store the
>     >     nsUniqueID for
>     >     >     the entry.
>     >     >     Then later, do the same search (uid=somename) and get the
>     >     nsUniqueID.
>     >     >     Compare the nsUniqueID to the one stored previously.
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     > That is nearly exactly how the sync application
>     works.  For any
>     >     entry
>     >     > that the application keeps track of, it keeps a 'lastseen'
>     LDIF.  on
>     >     > the next run of the sync, a search is performed and the
>     LDIFs are
>     >     > compared.
>     >     >
>     >     >     If this is the case, is it possible that the uid for the
>     >     entry has
>     >     >     changed?
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     > No, the only change made to the entry in question was to
>     the 'mail'
>     >     > attribute.
>     >     >
>     >     >     > --BO
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > On 5/15/07, *Richard Megginson* <rmeggins at redhat.com
>     <mailto:rmeggins at redhat.com>
>     >     <mailto:rmeggins at redhat.com <mailto:rmeggins at redhat.com>>
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>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     Bjorn Oglefjorn wrote:
>     >     >     >     > Hello all,
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > Can someone tell me, does the NSUniqueID
>     attribute ever
>     >     >     change for a
>     >     >     >     > given entry in the directory?
>     >     >     >     No.
>     >     >     >     > If so (I've seen it happen),
>     >     >     >     Can you describe exactly what you saw and how to
>     >     reproduce it?
>     >     >     >     > what are the criteria that prompt NSUniqeID to
>     change?
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > Thanks,
>     >     >     >     > BO
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >
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