From fedora-docs at cryptosystem.us Fri Apr 2 03:14:51 2004 From: fedora-docs at cryptosystem.us (Aaron Matteson) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 19:14:51 -0800 Subject: Help Guide Feedback, part deux Message-ID: <20040402031451.1491.qmail@mail.avlug.org> Thanks for all the feedback from the previous thread. I have inserted what i thought was best and cleaned things up a bit. * I have left the man section in tact. Man I feel is still the majority method of choice over info. * Completed the introduction and the missing paragraphs at the beginning of chapter 2. I feel the doc is now complete through chapter 3 but would gladly be shown the errors of my ways :) My working index is located at http://mindstorm.ath.cx:8080/index.php/HelpGuideIndex The guide is located at http://mindstorm.ath.cx:8080/fedora-docs/help-guide-en/ I am certainly not a world class writer nor or even a particularly good one and in that spirit i gladly accept any and all continued feedback on this. I am also curious about the eventual inclusion of the help guide into the docs project upon its completion. Thanks. -- 0 1 0 Aaron M Matteson - 0xD144B7FF 0 0 1 CCNA - A+ 1 1 1 Windows/Linux C++/C# Developer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The engineer in neither optimist nor pessimist. He sees the proverbial half-full/empty glass and says, "The glass is twice as big as there is and need for it to be." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://cryptosystem.us/ - Project http://cryptosystem.us/blog/ - Blog From helios82 at optushome.com.au Fri Apr 2 09:23:06 2004 From: helios82 at optushome.com.au (Matt H) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 19:23:06 +1000 Subject: Help Guide Feedback, part deux In-Reply-To: <20040402031451.1491.qmail@mail.avlug.org> References: <20040402031451.1491.qmail@mail.avlug.org> Message-ID: <1080897785.3100.17.camel@fc1> On Fri, 2004-04-02 at 13:14, Aaron Matteson wrote: > Thanks for all the feedback from the previous thread. I have inserted > what i thought was best and cleaned things up a bit. > > * I have left the man section in tact. Man I feel is still the majority > method of choice over info. Aaron, maybe mentioning info/pinfo as another manual parsing option would be useful? > > * Completed the introduction and the missing paragraphs at the beginning > of chapter 2. > > I feel the doc is now complete through chapter 3 but would gladly be > shown the errors of my ways :) > Spelling/grammar errors I found: * In Introduction: - "yield" spelt wrong - "exhausted" spelt wrong - "Number 1" should probably be "Number One". * Chapter 2: - section 2.1,1, "foremost" spelt wrong - "invoke" spelt wrong - section 2.1.2, "explanation" spelt wrong - section 2.2.1, "application" spelt wrong - section 2.2.2, phrase should be "people's trials" - section 2.2.3, "convenient" spelt wrong (thanks for linking to us!) - section 2.2.4, "Internet" spelt wrong (should be capital "I") Haven't checked the rest yet, but great work overall! :-) -- mhelios -- FedoraForum.org staff Registered Linux User #348963 / counter.li.org GnuPG KeyID: 0xCE9F8922 / gnupg.org From kwade at redhat.com Tue Apr 6 23:47:34 2004 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: 06 Apr 2004 16:47:34 -0700 Subject: list of questions not working Message-ID: <1081295253.3359.243.camel@erato.phig.org> The Fedora SELinux FAQ[1] is starting to get sizable, and messy without a list of questions at the top. I'm having trouble fixing this. Our default XSL stylesheets for HTML (xsl/main-html.xsl, xsl/html-common.xsl, and redhat.xsl) don't have a call to make the list of questions for a FAQ written with [2]. It seemed straightforward to call qandaset.xsl[3], just as other stylesheets are called in the Fedora docs XSL. I have had no success, in fact zero recognizable difference in the resulting document, with these efforts: * Tried importing, then tried including qandaset.xsl into main-html.xsl, which is the main XSL called from the Makefile. ... didn't work ... .... didn't work ... * Under the heading , I tried adding "qanda toc" and "qandaset toc", underneath the "section nop" in both cases. No luck there. I didn't feel that this area of the XSL was related to the solution, but I tried it anyway. Any ideas? - Karsten [1] http://people.redhat.com/kwade/fedora-docs/selinux-faq-en/ http://people.redhat.com/kwade/fedora-docs/selinux-faq/selinux-faq-en.xml [2] http://www.docbook.org/tdg/en/html/qandaset.html [3] /usr/share/sgml/docbook/xsl-stylesheets/html/qandaset.xsl -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Tech Writer this is not the .signature you are looking for http://people.redhat.com/kwade/ gpg fingerprint: 2680 DBFD D968 3141 0115 5F1B D992 0E06 AD0E 0C41 From dpawson at nildram.co.uk Wed Apr 7 15:26:50 2004 From: dpawson at nildram.co.uk (Dave Pawson) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 16:26:50 +0100 Subject: list of questions not working In-Reply-To: <1081295253.3359.243.camel@erato.phig.org> References: <1081295253.3359.243.camel@erato.phig.org> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040407162443.026dc630@pop3.Nildram.co.uk> At 00:47 07/04/2004, Karsten Wade wrote: >The Fedora SELinux FAQ[1] is starting to get sizable, and messy without >a list of questions at the top. I'm having trouble fixing this. near the top. Then, whereever you want the toc placed, How's that sound? Or you could use the docbook website xslt stylesheets, but I guess that smells of NIH? Funny, they have just what you want Karsten! regards DaveP From ed at edverosky.com Wed Apr 7 16:16:05 2004 From: ed at edverosky.com (Ed Verosky) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 11:16:05 -0500 Subject: Coordinated list of writers/tutorials? Message-ID: <1081354564.3011.25.camel@superman.linux.dev> I'm interested in volunteering for the Documentation Project, however I'm having trouble locating a list of available topics to write on. I would assume certain topics are already being worked on, and would like to avoid spending time on a tutorial that someone else is just about finished with. Any advice? -- Ed Verosky From paul at frields.com Wed Apr 7 16:56:29 2004 From: paul at frields.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 12:56:29 -0400 Subject: Coordinated list of writers/tutorials? In-Reply-To: <1081354564.3011.25.camel@superman.linux.dev> References: <1081354564.3011.25.camel@superman.linux.dev> Message-ID: <1081356989.3627.3.camel@london.east.gov> On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 12:16, Ed Verosky wrote: > I'm interested in volunteering for the Documentation Project, however > I'm having trouble locating a list of available topics to write on. I > would assume certain topics are already being worked on, and would like > to avoid spending time on a tutorial that someone else is just about > finished with. Any advice? I think for the most part the participants in the Docs Project are on this list. Make your suggestion here and if someone's already done it, or has a counter-suggestion, they'll feel free to jump in, I'm sure. -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE From tfox at redhat.com Wed Apr 7 18:30:27 2004 From: tfox at redhat.com (Tammy Fox) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 14:30:27 -0400 Subject: Coordinated list of writers/tutorials? In-Reply-To: <1081356989.3627.3.camel@london.east.gov> References: <1081354564.3011.25.camel@superman.linux.dev> <1081356989.3627.3.camel@london.east.gov> Message-ID: <1081362626.6042.250.camel@jadefox.rdu.redhat.com> On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 12:56, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 12:16, Ed Verosky wrote: > > I'm interested in volunteering for the Documentation Project, however > > I'm having trouble locating a list of available topics to write on. I > > would assume certain topics are already being worked on, and would like > > to avoid spending time on a tutorial that someone else is just about > > finished with. Any advice? > > I think for the most part the participants in the Docs Project are on > this list. Make your suggestion here and if someone's already done it, > or has a counter-suggestion, they'll feel free to jump in, I'm sure. > > -- > Paul W. Frields, RHCE You can also check out https://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2004-February/msg00058.html which is the latest thread of volunteers and topics. I have been meaning to post the list on the webpage, but the engineer in me wants to write some special code to aid in the process instead of just HTML. ;-) We have a 3 day weekend coming up, so I'll do my best to get the list on the website this weekend. Tammy From dpawson at nildram.co.uk Wed Apr 7 18:41:56 2004 From: dpawson at nildram.co.uk (Dave Pawson) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 19:41:56 +0100 Subject: Coordinated list of writers/tutorials? In-Reply-To: <1081362626.6042.250.camel@jadefox.rdu.redhat.com> References: <1081354564.3011.25.camel@superman.linux.dev> <1081356989.3627.3.camel@london.east.gov> <1081362626.6042.250.camel@jadefox.rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040407193850.026cab70@pop3.Nildram.co.uk> At 19:30 07/04/2004, Tammy Fox wrote: >You can also check out >https://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2004-February/msg00058.html >which is the latest thread of volunteers and topics. From which I see Bruce Martin - Wireless / PDA configs I've been 'busy' playing with a new Palm Tungsten E pda for the last week or so (fascinating!). Two items intrigued me. 1. pda+Linux. 2. Heavy reading on the Palm. E.g All the ietf rfc's are available in palmreader format, and Norm Walsh has done a W3C -> iSilo format link, to get all the W3C specs he needs. The linux pda stuff seems heavily out of date (personal view, with a newish pda). Is Bruce still working on that? Does he want any assistance? regards DaveP From foz at techville.org Tue Apr 13 01:24:59 2004 From: foz at techville.org (Ron Goulard) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:24:59 -0400 Subject: ClamAV with Sendmail on Fedora Core 1 Message-ID: <1081819499.4331.559.camel@localhost.localdomain> I've created a document detailing the install of clam antivirus for use with sendmail on FC1. It was suggested to me to perhaps see if it could be of use here. If anyone is interested, the doc can be found at http://www.airride.net/linux/fedora+clamav-howto.html Feel free to post a copy wherever you think it may help. Thank you Ron Goulard From BENOITK at student.gvsu.edu Wed Apr 14 15:16:35 2004 From: BENOITK at student.gvsu.edu (Kenneth M. Benoit) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 11:16:35 -0400 Subject: wireless networking tutorial is available! Message-ID: <1081955795.b317cba0BENOITK@student.gvsu.edu> Hey Guys, This is just a note to let you know that a wireless-networking-tutorial is avaliable. You can view the html at.... http://www2.gvsu.edu/~simonjm The tarball is available at... http://www2.gvsu.edu/~simonjm/wireless-tutorial-images.tgz Please provide feedback... Kenny From dpawson at nildram.co.uk Thu Apr 15 17:08:09 2004 From: dpawson at nildram.co.uk (Dave Pawson) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 18:08:09 +0100 Subject: wireless networking tutorial is available! In-Reply-To: <1081955795.b317cba0BENOITK@student.gvsu.edu> References: <1081955795.b317cba0BENOITK@student.gvsu.edu> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040415172655.0270e4b0@pop3.Nildram.co.uk> At 16:16 14/04/2004, Kenneth M. Benoit wrote: >Hey Guys, > >This is just a note to let you know that a wireless-networking-tutorial is >avaliable. http://www2.gvsu.edu/~simonjm/assumptions-section.html Assumes you 'know the network you're connecting to' ? Perhaps a ten line outline of just what the user needs to know? http://www2.gvsu.edu/~simonjm/prerequisites-section.html I have my Fedora box linked in via wire. Is this worth adding (as a free bonus for the local network?) http://www2.gvsu.edu/~simonjm/instructions-for-the-impatient-section.html Hey, that's too impatient :-) A two line explanation please? http://www2.gvsu.edu/~simonjm/detailed-procedures-section.html Very professional! Yes, I like it. (Its actually clearer than the instructions I got with my win32 wifi kit!) regards DaveP Otherwise I like it, having suffered setting up my own wifi network :-) regards DaveP From jasonevans9 at cox.net Sat Apr 24 18:08:31 2004 From: jasonevans9 at cox.net (Jason Evans) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:08:31 -0500 Subject: Tried to rpmbuild NVIDIA drivers Message-ID: <20040424180756.VKPX10595.lakermmtao08.cox.net@Tunkashila> I have just installed Fedora Core 1 and I tried to: rpmbuild --rebuild for my NVIDIA graphics and nforce drivers. It replied CANNOT WRITE to \\\\SOURCE . CANNOT INSTALL. I am looking for help, I am new to Linux and have browsed and printed pages of tutorial info, to no avail. Thanks... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 4389 bytes Desc: not available URL: From forrestx.taylor at intel.com Mon Apr 26 17:21:18 2004 From: forrestx.taylor at intel.com (Taylor, ForrestX) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:21:18 -0700 Subject: Tried to rpmbuild NVIDIA drivers In-Reply-To: <20040424180756.VKPX10595.lakermmtao08.cox.net@Tunkashila> References: <20040424180756.VKPX10595.lakermmtao08.cox.net@Tunkashila> Message-ID: <1083000078.4461.12.camel@bad.jf.intel.com> On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 11:08, Jason Evans wrote: > rpmbuild --rebuild > for my NVIDIA graphics and nforce drivers. It replied CANNOT WRITE to > \\\\SOURCE. CANNOT INSTALL. First off, please do not post in HTML with these graphics and this colored font. It is much easier to read plain text. If you need help with that, let me know. Second, this is for the writing of documentation, not a technical question forum. You probably want the fedora-list. To answer your question, do this: su - rpmbuild --rebuild NVIDIA*.src.rpm Forrest -- From edrom at legion.uam.mx Mon Apr 26 20:06:20 2004 From: edrom at legion.uam.mx (Eduardo Rodriguez) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:06:20 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Help downloading documentation via anonymous CVS Message-ID: Hi! I'm trying to download Fedora documentation via anonymous CVS. I've RedHat 8 on a x86 box. When i execute the comand: cvs -z3 login and i put my e-mail address as login password, i get the following error: cvs [login aborted]: connect to rhlinux.redhat.com(66.187.233.241):2401 failed: Connection timed out Could you please tell me what i'm doing wrong!!?? Thanks. From privat at trond-danielsen.org Mon Apr 26 20:51:40 2004 From: privat at trond-danielsen.org (Trond Danielsen) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 22:51:40 +0200 Subject: Help downloading documentation via anonymous CVS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <408D765C.7000708@trond-danielsen.org> Eduardo Rodriguez wrote: > Hi! > > I'm trying to download Fedora documentation via anonymous CVS. I've RedHat > 8 on a x86 box. When i execute the comand: cvs -z3 login and i put my > e-mail address as login password, i get the following error: > > cvs [login aborted]: connect to rhlinux.redhat.com(66.187.233.241):2401 > failed: > Connection timed out > > Could you please tell me what i'm doing wrong!!?? > Thanks. > > Try logging in without a password, just press enter when asked for. -- Trond Danielsen *********************************** _ * http://www.trond-danielsen.org * The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) * Mobile tlf: +47 99 62 52 35 * against HTML e-mail X * GPG ID: 0x02F29FD9 * http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ *********************************** From sopwith at redhat.com Wed Apr 28 16:09:53 2004 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:09:53 -0400 Subject: Fedora Project Mailing Lists reminder Message-ID: <200404281609.i3SG9rdS017524@ostrich-deluxe.devel.redhat.com> This is a reminder of the mailing lists for the Fedora Project, and the purpose of each list. 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To subscribe, send email to -request at redhat.com (replace with the desired mailing list name such as fedora-list) with the word subscribe in the subject. fedora-announce-list - Announcements of changes and events fedora-list - For users of releases fedora-test-list - For testers of test releases fedora-devel-list - For developers, developers, developers fedora-docs-list - For participants of the docs project fedora-desktop-list - For discussions about desktop issues such as user interfaces, artwork, and usability fedora-config-list - For discussions about the development of configuration tools fedora-legacy-list - For discussions about the Fedora Legacy Project fedora-selinux-list - For discussions about the Fedora SELinux Project fedora-de-list - For discussions about Fedora in the German language fedora-ja-list - For discussions about Fedora in the Japanese language fedora-i18n-list - For discussions about the internationalization of Fedora Core fedora-trans-list - For discussions about translating the software and documentation associated with the Fedora Project German: fedora-trans-de French: fedora-trans-fr Spanish: fedora-trans-es Italian: fedora-trans-it Brazilian Portuguese: fedora-trans-pt_br Japanese: fedora-trans-ja Korean: fedora-trans-ko Simplified Chinese: fedora-trans-zh_cn Traditional Chinese: fedora-trans-zh_tw From dpawson at nildram.co.uk Wed Apr 28 19:49:41 2004 From: dpawson at nildram.co.uk (Dave Pawson) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 20:49:41 +0100 Subject: test. please ignore Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.2.20040428204852.0276e480@pop3.Nildram.co.uk> I'm getting bounced with both my email addresses. This for test only. Tammie? Am I still subscribed please? regards DaveP From tfox at redhat.com Wed Apr 28 20:42:46 2004 From: tfox at redhat.com (Tammy Fox) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:42:46 -0400 Subject: test. please ignore In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.2.20040428204852.0276e480@pop3.Nildram.co.uk> References: <6.1.0.6.2.20040428204852.0276e480@pop3.Nildram.co.uk> Message-ID: <1083184966.6043.970.camel@jadefox.rdu.redhat.com> On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 15:49, Dave Pawson wrote: > I'm getting bounced with both my email addresses. > This for test only. > This one made it to the list. > Tammie? Am I still subscribed please? > Yes. > regards DaveP From linux at bytebot.net Thu Apr 29 06:13:48 2004 From: linux at bytebot.net (Colin Charles) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:13:48 +1000 Subject: Some "training" materials Message-ID: <1083219228.25288.248.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> While not documentation related directly, we might find a way into making the documentation available useful: http://training.bytebot.net/linux/ It's FC1 skewed, with GNOME, it might be a good starting point for a Starter Guide Don't worry about licensing, I'll gladly do so if required for the project -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ From dpawson at nildram.co.uk Thu Apr 29 17:06:33 2004 From: dpawson at nildram.co.uk (Dave Pawson) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:06:33 +0100 Subject: Some "training" materials In-Reply-To: <1083219228.25288.248.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> References: <1083219228.25288.248.camel@albus.aeon.com.my> Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.2.20040429180556.02798d00@pop3.Nildram.co.uk> At 07:13 29/04/2004, Colin Charles wrote: >While not documentation related directly, we might find a way into >making the documentation available useful: > http://training.bytebot.net/linux/ Guessing they are open office files, Had you thought about converting the xml export of them to docbook? regards DaveP From dpawson at nildram.co.uk Thu Apr 29 17:10:38 2004 From: dpawson at nildram.co.uk (Dave Pawson) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:10:38 +0100 Subject: pdf ps tools Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.2.20040429180643.026c70f8@pop3.Nildram.co.uk> I've a job I need to do, create some ps files, convert to two up pdf as handouts. I've been told that pstops will do the job? Its probably only going to be a half page write up, Is it worth doing? regards DaveP From tfox at redhat.com Thu Apr 29 20:09:27 2004 From: tfox at redhat.com (Tammy Fox) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:09:27 -0400 Subject: pdf ps tools In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.2.20040429180643.026c70f8@pop3.Nildram.co.uk> References: <6.1.0.6.2.20040429180643.026c70f8@pop3.Nildram.co.uk> Message-ID: <1083269367.6031.51.camel@jadefox.rdu.redhat.com> I don't quite understand your question. Are you asking whether it is worth writing up the instructions for using pstops or whether it is worth using pstops or whether pstops will convert PS to PDF? Tammy On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 13:10, Dave Pawson wrote: > I've a job I need to do, create some ps files, > convert to two up pdf as handouts. > > I've been told that pstops will do the job? > > Its probably only going to be a half page write up, > Is it worth doing? > > regards DaveP From dpawson at nildram.co.uk Fri Apr 30 17:41:22 2004 From: dpawson at nildram.co.uk (Dave Pawson) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:41:22 +0100 Subject: pdf ps tools In-Reply-To: <1083269367.6031.51.camel@jadefox.rdu.redhat.com> References: <6.1.0.6.2.20040429180643.026c70f8@pop3.Nildram.co.uk> <1083269367.6031.51.camel@jadefox.rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.2.20040430184037.02793b60@pop3.Nildram.co.uk> At 21:09 29/04/2004, Tammy Fox wrote: >I don't quite understand your question. Are you asking whether it is >worth writing up the instructions for using pstops or whether it is >worth using pstops or whether pstops will convert PS to PDF? You do ask a lot of questions Tammy :-) First one on your list. I.e. it seems trivial.... once you know it can be done! regards DaveP