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Re: HCL Considered Harmfull [Re: Fedora HCL guide writers?]

George Ganoe wrote:

Stuart Ellis wrote:

On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 11:55 -0500, Tommy Reynolds wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 10:50:49 -0700 Chidananda Jayakeerti

<ajchida gmail com> wrote:

I do not think that having an HCL will be a good idea for Fedora.


Fedora now includes an Installation Guide and Release Notes that
describe the minimal hardware configuration, in generic terms.

I definitely agree with Tommy that attempting a HCL would be a bad idea. Thinking about it, perhaps the problem itself has changed over the years too - these days the install process will probably complete on any common Intel-compatible hardware, so the question is no longer "can I install Linux on this machine ?", but "will I need to carry out extra steps afterwards to get some functions to work ?"

I also agree that getting specific information on particular makes and
models is best done by Googling. Perhaps we can usefully make some
general statements in the Release Notes, though ? For example, when I
install Fedora on a laptop it's almost a certainty that neither the
modem nor the wireless card will work, and ACPI is unlikely as well, but
our existing documentation doesn't really acknowledge this, or provide
positive guidance as to how to go about finding solutions.

While I agree that taking on the task of an HCL is a monumental job, as a five year Red Hat/Fedora user, I believe it would be a tremendous service to the user community to have a HIL (Hardware Incompatibility List). Many times I hesitate to buy new hardware because I can't find information about what models will work with my OS, and it is a daunting job to even begin the task of finding out. A list of things to stay away from would be a great help.


I think an 'HIL' would suffer exactly the same problems and an HCL, just from a different perspective. Anymore, such a list is really not even necessary. Very, very little hardware still cannot be used with Linux. Some older, proprietary, and rare hardware will not run, but overall your odds are as good with Linux as they are with Windows. The only concern is how much effort getting the hardware to run will take. An HCL/HIL will not solve that, but Google queries work nicely to pull up guides for most hardware. This will become even more of a moot point going forward. At the moment, you have much better odds of hardware working on a 64-bit Linux system than you do with a 64-bit Windows system. Linux is not the niche OS it once was. The need for HCL/HIL's is fading.

Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes
nman64 n-man com


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