splash page + tracking image example

[Sam Folk-Williams]

On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 17:03 -0700, Karsten Wade wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 04:28 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > Can we use something more visually appealing than a small blue dot. 
> > Perhaps the Fedora logo itself would be more appropriate? 
> 
> Sure.  We just need it to be in a unique location hit only by this page;
> I'll get that done.
> 
> > Also the title 
> > there should probably be "Counting Fedora Desktop Users". Tracking seems 
> > to imply a more continuous activity rather than effectively a one time 
> > hit counter.
> 
> OK, thx.

+1 on this. The tracker word freaked me out. Maybe something like "How
many Fedora users are there?"

> 
> > The sentence "Don't worry about multiple counts, shared IP addresses, 
> > and so forth" implies that multiple counts would be distort data while 
> > it would not. We just need to uniquely sort it by IP addresses.
> 
> We are talking to people who wouldn't get that and would worry about
> multiple hits.  People who think a rolling page hit counter has meaning.
> 

We don't want it to sound like we don't care if the data is wrong. The
sentence as is says to me, "We know this is inaccurate and stupid, but
hey we're doing it anyway". Maybe just something like, "We are counting
the number of unique IP addresses. If you are connecting from home or
from your office, you will likely always have the same IP address and
therefore won't be counted multiple times. " Or... maybe even better
nothing at all.

> > The last sentence about funding seems to add to the confusion rather 
> > than help clarify it. I would advise dropping that. Maybe we should add 
> > a sentence last that says "If you are not online and do not wish to be 
> > counted, you can simply change this homepage".
> 
> I thought we were trying for clarity and honesty in the message?
> Everything I read in the thread so far boils down to, "We need this to
> justify (more) money, and that is the primary importance over all other
> considerations at this time."
> 
> Counting users to make better decisions is obfuscation talk.  How does a
> raw user count make better decisions?  You'd need to know some depth
> about those users to have it influence decisions.
> 
> Perhaps we can soften the blow better than I did, but if we're being
> honest, we have to be honest *and* clear.
> 
I see both of sides of this one, but ultimately I agree with Rahul's
take. 

I like the idea of linking to a wiki page where things are explained in
greater detail for those who care. For those who don't, let's keep the
text minimal on this page...
> - Karsten
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