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On Sat, 2007-12-08 at 14:09 +1300, Vladimir Kosovac wrote:
> Marc Wiriadisastra wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 16:18 -0800, Karsten Wade wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 23:22 +0900, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote:
> >>>   There is (IMO) some overlap between the
> >>> Admin guide and the Desktop one and there will always be so with that
> >>> thought should we transfer some topics across?
> >> What is the overlap you see?
> >>
> >> - Karsten
> > 
> > Yum and user administration I would think?  
> > 
> > Since there is/was system-config-users which is the gui side but it's
> > possibly an admin tool.
> I don't think this stuff is out-of-place in a DUG. To teach people new
> to Fedora how to use PC effectively, basic system administration should
> be included. Probably just a matter of figuring the right amount of
> information.

John posted earlier with reasons why these subjects all belong in the
Administration Guide, not the DUG.  If someone needs to "administer"
their system to make basic use of it, that's a *bug*.  Whether a tool is
GUI or not has no bearing on it being included in one guide or another;
in fact, a good case could be made that almost *nothing* non-GUI should
be in the Desktop User Guide.  

The AG should, in fact, prefer GUI tools to hand-editing configuration
files whenever possible.  This is part of the "best practices" for which
we should shoot.  Where the GUI tools are deficient, the basic use cases
should be the first covered, using the GUI tools, and the more advanced
or infrequent use cases requiring other admin interactions should

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