I quit

[Christopher Curran]

Christopher Curran wrote:
> Karl Larsen wrote:
>>    The instructions to join this group are old and out of date. I 
>> have spent enough time trying to get the gpg and ssh things right but 
>> your web page says it is all wrong!
>>
>>    I have spent 4 days on this and that is too much. I quit.
>>
>>
> Sorry to hear that :(
>
> I'll do some QE on it and see if it can be fixed. This is the sort of 
> feedback we need though, we need to know when things don't work. 
> Documentation is an endless hurdle with testing and assurance. This 
> sort of feedback is helpful and much appreciated.
>
> Chris Curran
>
I hope I assisted with this issue. I hit many of the same problems (and 
a few others myself). There are certainly problems with the guide. The 
main issues are:

* gpg isn't straight forward nor presented in a step by step manor, some 
steps are missing.
* some people (including myself) did not have ssh access configured 
before starting.
* The wiki editing process is not documented. Tooltips from within the 
wiki itself are nether helpful nor practical. We need a separate section 
within the original Join information describing the steps to get 
connected and editing on the wiki.

In all honesty the process is too long. I've been a community 
contributer to a number of projects before fedora and none of them too 
this long or involved so many loops. It probably means we are losing the 
few how do not have the patience nor the troubleshooting skills to 
persevere through such a process. Can we automate it :D

Chris
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