The key things are just killing me. I have Seahorse running and it is no help at all. It is just too much for me. Since you will not not let me write for Fedora without all these things done, I will not write for Fedora. Karl Goodbye -- Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI Linux User #450462 http://counter.li.org. PGP 28AC 2D41 EF25 0417 7166 DD81 44BD ABFC FA8E C752