SIGs, projects, and leadership

Karsten Wade kwade at
Wed Nov 21 19:15:07 UTC 2007

On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 13:11 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:

> On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 12:02 +0300, John Babich wrote: 
> > On Nov 19, 2007 6:29 AM, Vladimir Kosovac <vnk at> wrote:
> > > Vladimir Kosovac wrote:

> > > > The other important thing that we seem lacking is a way of measuring
> > > > accountability. I realise we are all volunteers with a variety of other,
> > > > more pressing commitments in our lives and that it is extremely
> > > > difficult to enforce this. But I am also pretty sure that every single
> > > > one of us had at least a vague idea of what are we getting ourselves into,
> > > when signing-up with the docs project.
> > >
> > > **Thats how it was supposed to read **
> > >
> > 
> > Thanks for the clarification, Vladimir.
> > 
> > Signing up for the Fedora Docs Project is not a straight-forward process.
> > Surely, someone signs up with his or her "eyes wide open".
> > 
> > Once a person volunteers, I think it is reasonable to ask them for a specific
> > commitment of time or talent. If someone fails to deliver, it should be noted
> > and that person should be asked respectfully if there is a blocking issue or
> > another priority preventing the completion of the task. I include myself in this
> > process of accountability.
> It's a very touchy thing, dealing with responsibility in a volunteer
> project.  The notion of whip-cracking is a little daunting, but people
> who are committed generally are also self-directing.  I would say that
> if we ever got into the bind that we needed to remind someone about
> accountability, we as a project are doing something wrong.  The folks
> contributing time and effort should be appreciated fairly and
> proportionally for what they do.

You know, having the progress bars for l10n hasn't hurt the volunteer

It is a very visible accountability and serves as a reminder/target to
shoot for.  People aren't afraid of being accountable or they wouldn't
have come in the first place.

Since our situation is much less complex, we could cook up some easy to
manually update graphics for our several guides.

Alternately, we could go to John Poelstra and get some help in cooking
up a proper TaskJuggler schedule. :)

- Karsten
Karsten Wade, Developer Community Mgr.
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