FDSCo Meeting 2008-03-12 IRC Log

[Robert 'Bob' Jensen]

Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote:
> John Babich wrote:
>> *    quaid has changed the topic to: FDSCo mtg -- Mailing list spam 
>> and moderation
>> *    stickster here
>> <quaid>    hmm, without Bob I don't think we get the full impatc
>> <quaid>    but aiui
>> <quaid>    he was concerned with list moderators stepping on each other
>> <quaid>    outside of designating hours of coverage (horrors!)
>> <quaid>    I think we just have to be careful
>> <quaid>    and make sure we know what we are rejecting
>> <quaid>    for this I use the Mailman WebUI to be sure
>> <jmbuser>    quaid: Is there any way to prevent the spam mail from
>> cloggin up my webmail?
>> <jmbuser>    s / cloggin / clogging /
>> <quaid>    filters?
>> <quaid>    also ...
>> <quaid>    Mike was going to adjust our filters
>> <quaid>    but afaict he hasn't
>> <quaid>    I don't know quite what to do there and haven't found anyone
>> who can help
>> *    quaid tries not to say M I K E ' s name so as to not distract him
>> from FAS2 fun
>> <jmbuser>    The signal-to-noise ratio drops drastically with spam and
>> causes me to miss real information
>> <quaid>    hmm
>> <quaid>    I'm not sure if the spam filters drop the message before it
>> gets to the queue
>> <quaid>    I'll drop mike an  email about the filters
>> <jmbuser>    thanks
>> <quaid>    ok, that's about what we can do
>> <quaid>    jmbuser: are you using the web interface for moderating?  or
>> still using the reply-to in the email stuff?
>> <stickster>    Hm, I haven't seen any spam on f-docs-l.
>> <jmbuser>    quaid: web interface
>> <stickster>    Maybe it's my Gmail at work?
>> <quaid>    stickster: it doesn't land on list, it hits the moderation 
>> queue
>> <stickster>    Oh that.
>> *    mkranz (n=mkranz at h-217.111.50.179.host.de.colt.net) has joined 
>> #fedora-meeting
>> <quaid>    so it's moderator email that you see
>> <quaid>    ok, anything else here?
>> <stickster>    *AH*.  I've been getting a BOATLOAD of that on f-a-b and
>> f-board-l that I do have to moderate, so fair enough.
>> <quaid>    stickster: mike figured out a formula for using RHT set spam
>> assassin headers
>> <stickster>    quaid: I've been considering simply rejecting email from
>> non-subscribers, at least on f-board-l.
>> <quaid>    I just sent him email, once I get the details, i'll publish
>> and advertise to list admins
>> <quaid>    stickster: then you lose the people who we ask to reply to 
>> the board
>> <stickster>    s/non-subscribers/non-subscribers who aren't preapproved/
>> <quaid>    aiui, the SA headers are present and can be used by Mailman
>> <stickster>    Aha
>> <stickster>    OK, not to drive this into the ground, sorry all.
>> <quaid>    I just want to avoid re-doing Mike's figuring here, so I'll
>> see what he says, then try it on f-docs-l ...etc.
>> <quaid>    ok, moving on ...
>> <stickster>    If it works, let me know and I'll follow suit
>> *    quaid looks back up 9 lines in his buffer
>> <quaid>    yep
> 
> Sorry I missed the meeting, one thing that I have been doing with the 
> spammers is checking the box to "always reject from this address." this 
> will help over time I think. this is what the "rejected" messages are 
> from. I think we can turn those off in mailman.
> 

[X] Add <dirty at spammer.tld> to one of these sender filters:
    Accepts    	   Holds    	   Rejects    	   Discards
                                                       (X)

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73,

Robert 'Bob' Jensen
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