Much more emphasis on Fedora users needed in wiki

Paul Frields stickster at gmail.com
Thu Oct 23 15:09:13 UTC 2008


On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 13:55 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Paul W. Frields <stickster at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think that's entirely the *wrong* way to use the wiki.  Wikipedia
> > doesn't organize things in hierarchies either.  Instead, we should title
> > all pages in ways that allow the "Search" feature to work properly, like
> > this:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=bluetooth&go=Go
> >
> > Notice how your page comes up, because you named it properly.  *That's*
> > how the wiki should work, not by arbitrary hierarchies.
>
> http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/wiki-search.png
>
> I don't see my page come up :(
>
> I tried logging on and searching again, but I don't see it. Look at my
> screenshot. Could you also share your screenshoot to see what I'm
> missing.

Did you include the User namespace in your search?  Note that's not the
default, but once your draft is ready, you can move it into the Main
namespace and it will come up on default searches.

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On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Valent Turkovic
<valent.turkovic at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Paul W. Frields <stickster at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 16:06 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote:
>>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 2:48 AM, Paul W. Frields <stickster at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 06:53:10PM +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote:
>>> >> I just posted a new howto on my blog.
>>> >>
>>> >> Bluetooth GPS Fedora howto:
>>> >> http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/index.php/archives/bluetooth-gps-fedora-howto/
>>> >>
>>> >> Is there somewhere on Fedora wiki a place for it?
>>> >
>>> > You don't have to ask, Valent, it's a wiki.  Every user has a draft
>>> > space under their username on the wiki.  For instance, mine is:
>>> >
>>> >  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pfrields
>>> >
>>> > When I want to post something for people to edit, I use:
>>> >
>>> >  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pfrields/My_new_document
>>> >
>>> > If you want the solution to be globally searchable, you can use:
>>> >
>>> >  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Some_new_document
>>> >
>>>
>>> Thank you Paul,
>>> I made new document on wiki:
>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Valent/Fedora_Bluetooth_GPS_How_To
>>>
>>> Maybe I wasn't clear (english is not my primary language) but I wasn't
>>> asking how to put page on the wiki (but still thank you very much for
>>> explaining) but how to better organize Fedora wiki for Fedora users.
>>>
>>> Have you looked at Gentoo wiki? Have you looked at Fedora Solved?
>>>
>>> That is what I'm talking about.
>>>
>>> Let's make Fedora wiki better for Fedora users with a HowTo section on
>>> the front page that makes use of best howtos currently in drafts. When
>>> the "wiki infrastructure" is up I guess that other Fedora contributors
>>> will join and add much more Fedora howtos and guides.
>>
>> I think that's entirely the *wrong* way to use the wiki.  Wikipedia
>> doesn't organize things in hierarchies either.  Instead, we should title
>> all pages in ways that allow the "Search" feature to work properly, like
>> this:
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=bluetooth&go=Go
>>
>> Notice how your page comes up, because you named it properly.  *That's*
>> how the wiki should work, not by arbitrary hierarchies.
>
> http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/wiki-search.png
>
> I don't see my page come up :(
>
> I tried logging on and searching again, but I don't see it. Look at my
> screenshot. Could you also share your screenshoot to see what I'm
> missing.
>
> Thank you,
> Valent.
>
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