Docs Meeting 2009-09-24 IRC Log
Eric Christensen
eric at christensenplace.us
Tue Sep 29 11:53:46 UTC 2009
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00:01:38 #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
00:01:38 Meeting started Thu Sep 24 00:01:38 2009 UTC. The chair is
Sparks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
00:01:38 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
00:01:47 #topic Roll Call
00:01:48 * Sparks
00:02:07 * jjmcd .
00:02:56 * danielsmw
00:03:31 * ianweller kinda sorta not really
00:05:47 * Sparks gives everyone just a few more minutes
00:08:34 Okay, let's get started.
00:08:48 #topic Last week's action items
00:09:00 quaid to follow up with Richard about the use of the CC logo
on the wiki.
00:09:01 none of the action item guys are here
00:09:09 Yeah, I just realized that.
00:09:24 We'll just pass these by...
00:09:42 #topic Release notes format changes
00:09:50 jjmcd: Is there any further discussion on this?
00:09:56 what were we changing?
00:10:26 A little late, they are being built each night
00:10:34 I don't know.
00:10:42 We'll just call this topic done.
00:10:54 #topic Status on CMS (Zikula)
00:10:55 http://fedora.is-sixsigma.com/F12beta
00:11:02 Is there any update on Zikula?
00:11:25 Um, I guess I have a small one
00:11:31 danielsmw: go ahead
00:11:45 I hope I'm not being a blocker, but I'm not done with my package yet.
00:11:48 I am very close though
00:11:51 and most of the work is done
00:11:59 danielsmw: Which package?
00:12:01 what I need is a legit packager to help me out with my
packaging mistakes
00:12:04 Xinha, for Scribite!
00:12:17 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status
00:12:26 ^^^ I don't see it on the list. Could you add it, please?
00:12:53 danielsmw: I'm a packager but certainly not legit.
ianweller is one, though.
00:13:01 Sparks: alright
00:13:05 If he can't help you then maybe he can point you to someone who can
00:13:07 wait, should this be on this list?
00:13:14 Yes.
00:13:19 okay
00:13:23 even though it's a general package
00:13:26 and not a zikula module?
00:13:54 Well... it's needed for Zikula, right?
00:13:56 It's just that it's _for_ zikula, which is why I brought it up now.
00:13:58 Yeah, it is
00:14:02 So I guess it goes there then.
00:14:05 I'll update the list. :)
00:14:18 TU
00:14:40 danielsmw: Do you know how much more time it will take to
get it straight?
00:14:57 if I may... I had started to package Xinha for a project of
mine (but they I abandoned as I didn't use it in the end)
00:15:18 Sparks: i really do have most of it done now, I believe.
It's just silly rpmbuild errors
00:15:27 all I remember is that it wasn't a hard package, I had it built
00:15:40 bochecha: it doesn't look that hard, I'm just no good at packaging. :)
00:15:41 danielsmw: What are the errors?
00:15:54 danielsmw, if I can help, drop me an email, I had already done it :P
00:16:09 Sparks: things like... using sources that aren't archives, and such.
00:16:12 bochecha: will do, thanks!
00:16:25 Sparks: but the main outline of what I"m doing is there.
00:16:31 danielsmw.fedorapeople.org/xinha.spec
00:17:20 danielsmw: Okay. If I can get my head above water (maybe
this weekend) I'll be happy to look at it. ianweller fixed so many
errors for me that I might know how to fix yours
00:17:24 might
00:17:41 Sparks: might. thanks, it looks like I'll be getting plenty of help.
00:17:47 danielsmw, if you have time tomorrow I might help, too tired tonite
00:18:08 cool
00:18:12 great
00:18:14 thanks everyone.
00:18:17 i appreciate it.
00:18:20 Anything else for zikula?
00:19:21 uh
00:19:23 I have a question
00:19:27 danielsmw: Go ahead
00:19:35 * quaid arrives back
00:19:38 On that page you told me to edit, FCKeditor is listed as
something that needs to be packaged
00:19:46 * quaid can address his item when it comes back around
00:19:47 which is basically the same thing as Xinha.
00:19:53 is there a reason they should both be done?
00:20:23 No
00:20:25 or is that just left over?
00:20:26 Not really
00:20:30 okay, i'll remove it then.
00:21:11 Okay, anything else for Zikula?
00:22:03 #topic Status on CC license rollout.
00:22:14 quaid: Were you able to follow up with Legal?
00:22:16 danielsmw: did you get hooked up with the Beacon maintainer?
00:22:19 Sparks: yes!
00:22:25 quaid: no, I forgot!
00:22:28 ironically, Richard just pointed back to spot
00:22:41 and spot knows of the problem; and there doesn't seem to be a solution
00:22:51 i.e., the CC logo(s) are not coverable by the CC-BY-SA
00:23:04 but maybe spot can explain better ...
00:23:08 * quaid forgot to ask if he'd be around
00:23:16 neither is our logo...
00:23:24 BUT, I'm good either way
00:23:44 heh, nor are other logos we might carry
00:23:50 yeah
00:24:22 spot: You around?
00:25:14 I guess not.
00:25:24 So I don't see the problem with using it.
00:25:47 And I do see a problem with using it.
00:26:00 So are we going to go with "don't use it"?
00:26:07 well, we have a clear legal guidance for don't use
00:26:13 so, for now, we don't use it.
00:26:24 I'll ask spot to explain on list, k?
00:26:40 k
00:27:08 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/License_changeover_schedule
00:27:29 So I guess we need to make internal notifications and then
get ianweller on changing the wiki over
00:28:08 rudi's not here tonight but he was still trying to get
access to those packages so he could change the Publican brand files
over
00:28:30 * danielsmw is sneaking out early. peace.
00:28:37 danielsmw: Have a good one
00:28:46 Anything else on the license changeover?
00:29:02 * quaid is happy :)
00:29:30 #topic #
00:29:30 *
00:29:32 #topic Shared open-source style guide
00:29:47 I think this is a rudi thing, too. Anyone have anything to
report on this?
00:30:09 well, yes
00:30:14 this was just part of something, righ?
00:30:14 quaid: Go ahead
00:30:20 do we have someone who is focusing on what is going on
00:30:25 with the upstream initiative?
00:30:26 Well....
00:30:29 writingopensource.org, right?
00:30:34 maybe
00:30:39 I don't remember now
00:30:49 I think rudi was working on getting RH to release their docs
00:31:03 right
00:31:04 I think ke4qqq was going to work on it as well
00:31:17 that is something we can contribute to the upstream effort,
or so I thought we discussed :)
00:31:27 I forget who was on-list with this item ...
00:31:36 he's a gnome.org person, iirc.
00:31:38 yeah, I think someone else had point but I don't remember who
00:31:48 * quaid looks
00:34:38 It's been so long ago I don't even remember
00:34:49 shaun mcchance?
00:34:57 * quaid having slow browser ...
00:35:50 * quaid joins http://identi.ca/group/wosdocs
00:36:19 So we need to figure out who from FP is going to work on this.
00:36:56 I think ke4qqq was interested but I don't know how much time
he has now
00:38:53 Let's take this to the list and see if we can stir up any interest
00:38:57 anything else on this?
00:39:28 #topic Guide needs?
00:39:38 Are their any guides (or RN) that need help?
00:40:13 I see some weird stuff
00:40:19 need to get w/rudi
00:40:56 okay... anything else?
00:41:36 #topic New Guides
00:41:40 Any new guides?
00:42:33 #topic All other business
00:42:46 Anyone have anything else?
00:44:32 * Sparks thinks we're going to get done early
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00:44:57 #endmeeting
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