From 1985dhawal at gmail.com Fri Jan 1 08:46:59 2010 From: 1985dhawal at gmail.com (DHAWAL GUDA) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 14:16:59 +0530 Subject: Hi Self Intro. Message-ID: <5a0f3a3b1001010046q52b04f98mcbb4af677633723d@mail.gmail.com> Hi friends, This is Dhawal from Hyderabad, India. I am 24 years old and working as a network Engineer at HMRI(104 service) Hyderabad. I started using Linux(Fedora,Ubuntu) since May 2009 and have never looked back to Xp. I am an B.tech(IT) graduate and have recently completed my RHCE cert. This is my first project which i am joining in the fedora community. I have written many general articles for my school and college thus have a working knowledge on writing articles combined with my linux cert makes me an ideal match for this project. Below is my GPG KEY: pub 768D/0BA7874C 2010-01-01 Key fingerprint = E8B3 F865 7239 7F98 CF44 BD2A B15A C687 0BA7 874C uid G Dhawal (fedora) sub 768g/7FAEB8BA 2010-01-01 Thanks & Regards G.Dhawal 9000014651 [image: ?ui=2&view=att&th=125003f5590e3464&attid=0.1&disp=attd&realattid=ii_125003f5590e3464&zw] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: red_hat_cert_eng_logo-clr.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 28515 bytes Desc: not available URL: From 1985dhawal at gmail.com Fri Jan 1 10:23:32 2010 From: 1985dhawal at gmail.com (DHAWAL GUDA) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 15:53:32 +0530 Subject: help needed Message-ID: <5a0f3a3b1001010223s372c0653r5422a7567b9a8a28@mail.gmail.com> Hi friends, Can anyone please tell me which appropriate group to join and how to join the group. I have already send my self intro to the mailing list. eagerly waiting your reply G.Dhawal 9000014651 [image: ?ui=2&view=att&th=125003f5590e3464&attid=0.1&disp=attd&realattid=ii_125003f5590e3464&zw] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: red_hat_cert_eng_logo-clr.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 28515 bytes Desc: not available URL: From vishuindian at gmail.com Fri Jan 1 12:03:25 2010 From: vishuindian at gmail.com (vishesh kumar) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 17:33:25 +0530 Subject: help needed In-Reply-To: <5a0f3a3b1001010223s372c0653r5422a7567b9a8a28@mail.gmail.com> References: <5a0f3a3b1001010223s372c0653r5422a7567b9a8a28@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear dhawal Its a right platform to encourage your documentation skills. Wait you will get response on your intro. On 1/1/10, DHAWAL GUDA <1985dhawal at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi friends, > > Can anyone please tell me which appropriate group to join and how to join > the group. I have already send my self intro to the mailing list. > > eagerly waiting your reply > > > G.Dhawal > 9000014651 > > [image: > ?ui=2&view=att&th=125003f5590e3464&attid=0.1&disp=attd&realattid=ii_125003f5590e3464&zw] > -- Sent from my mobile device http://linuxinterviews.blogspot.com From wb8rcr at arrl.net Sun Jan 3 15:35:42 2010 From: wb8rcr at arrl.net (John J. McDonough) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:35:42 -0500 Subject: Tools for writers Message-ID: <1262532942.8261.18.camel@Aidan> >From time to time I have made odd little tools to help me as a beat writer. I've begun putting these at github: http://github.com/jjmcd/FedoraDox/tree/master/tools These aren't ready for prime time by any means, but putting them in github allows anyone to look at the code, steal ideas, etc. without having to mess around installing the sources etc. github allows you to browse the sources on the web, or download them with git. Currently there are two: my old checkBeat app and the newer doc-publican-rpm. I will add others as they occur to me. Because there is a pretty burning need, I am working on packaging doc-publican-rpm (although it would be much preferred for Publican to include this capability). doc-publican-rpm makes a multilanguage rpm from a Publican document. Currently Publican will package a language, but it creates a separate menu entry for every language. doc-publican-rpm selects the language based on the user's login language, and the user sees only one menu entry for the document, and that menu entry is in his local language. checkBeat is used for beat writers to check for changes in their beat. It takes a certain amount of fiddling around to use, but it can be a time saver if your beat includes many packages. --McD From noriko at redhat.com Mon Jan 4 00:47:12 2010 From: noriko at redhat.com (Noriko Mizumoto) Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:47:12 +1000 Subject: Updated Fedora 13 Schedules In-Reply-To: <4B3A3255.4090901@redhat.com> References: <4B3A3255.4090901@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4B413A90.40409@redhat.com> John Poelstra ????????: > I have updated the schedules based on our meeting on 2009-12-22. Let me > know if there are any parts of it that still need to be adjusted by > telling me the task number and schedule you are referring to. Thank you so much for your great work. Just a bit, but it must be straight forward :-) > -= Translation =- > http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/f-13-trans-tasks.html Existing Translate Final Release Banners Fri 2010-04-30 Fri 2010-05-07 Deadline: Final Release Banners Fri 2010-05-07 Fri 2010-05-07 => Please remove them * We have found that Banners usually does not require Translation. Mostly Banners are simply images. New Translation Deadline: GA Announcement Fri 2010-05-07 Fri 2010-05-07 => Please add * Entry missing. noriko From nathan.thomas at peacenik.co.uk Mon Jan 4 15:35:02 2010 From: nathan.thomas at peacenik.co.uk (Nathan Thomas) Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:35:02 +0000 Subject: Self-introduction Message-ID: <4B420AA6.2030802@peacenik.co.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david.nalley at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 4 22:53:15 2010 From: david.nalley at fedoraproject.org (David Nalley) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 17:53:15 -0500 Subject: Self-introduction In-Reply-To: <4B420AA6.2030802@peacenik.co.uk> References: <4B420AA6.2030802@peacenik.co.uk> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Nathan Thomas wrote: > Hi, > > My name is Nathan and I live in Canterbury, United Kingdom. I've been a > Linux user for approximately two years, and have recently settled on Fedora > as my distribution of choice. I'd describe myself as a fairly competent > desktop user, and I'm slowly finding my way around the command line, though > I have no programming skills. I mainly use my computer for writing essays > (I'm a student at the University of Kent) and other texts (creative texts > for performance, art and performance reviews, etc) - for this I use Vim and > reStructured Text. In the past I have written and edited newsletters, > process and training documentation, and guides for a small charity. > > Although I'm no Linux expert I can write clearly and engagingly, and I'm > keen to learn. I'm particularly interested in documenting the community > aspects of Fedora (how Project members communicate with each other, work > together, present themselves to others) and in the Xfce desktop, but I'm > open to trying my hand at anything! > > Here's my GPG key: > pub 1024D/9D3F5640 2009-11-30 [expires: 2011-01-04] > Key fingerprint = C739 F6D1 5CAA F08C EC61 5CEB EFE0 BF51 9D3F 5640 > uid Nathan Thomas > sub 1024g/CE986279 2009-11-30 > > I look forward to learning from you and working together to make Fedora even > better! > > Yours faithfully, > Nathan Thomas > > -- > fedora-docs-list mailing list > fedora-docs-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-docs-list > Hi Nathan: Thanks for the introduction. We normally hang out on #fedora-docs on irc.freenode.net. We have a document here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo if you need more information on using IRC. We have weekly meetings on Wednesday evenings at 00:01 UTC in #fedora-meeting If you see something you want to start working on, please don't hesitate to jump in. All of our fomral guides are written in DocBook XML using Publican to publish them. We also tend to be gardeners of the wiki, and push some content there as well. David Nalley -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.10) iEYEARECAAYFAktCcVoACgkQkZOYj+cNI1cJewCeKdJ60jk4VyBMm6yQtQyk5Fb5 AKgAnjGp5FxY2UpAVWI7XzElMGRyMuDr =SPqW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sparks at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 6 12:22:32 2010 From: sparks at fedoraproject.org (Eric "Sparks" Christensen) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 07:22:32 -0500 Subject: Fedora Docs Meeting Reminder Message-ID: <4B448088.2040603@fedoraproject.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 REMINDER: There will be a Fedora Docs Meeting today at 0001 UTC. The agenda can be found at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting - --Eric -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJLRICHAAoJEDbiLlqcYamxAgIP+wR/sqM9zi1LKOs+gdoyARFa DlMVo8TVB045IfUHSY9bTZgZjHM3Z7aR4rI2bNUcY4CDrL0uj1AwJNfGYB3IVT6x WhmwshahV984ARWtlx7pQcW2/ZWxL007OBQ7qB5Lsrerjrfi2FTbtR4PkqmkeKKd f6LAripD+h9AqtT5C04q6SMtqSPvOILWYLA4Z96hu+MDxWsAUj5IhM8B5NaaXs+w 2TPaVjC1GS7pt/AK1Md1+yeEqr3+6pcqbYmNiYtyFbGJBsINnhqaoz70K7y0Lt6/ 1dJhP2xv1sQy7/OupPFgnezdesfjrCvwuENFesz0xFTDZvKBoZGNyXD30ErSxGUL tsMg4/+1PmCJTVocMnz6Ky5lWBBUjIj67bgDMrE2vxjOsHXpXKNqRUHEH5nayZhM 11rFQG24e99K4mw6FFQ82Aejv0V74p6XqJBgd8VKT4vlJLp7kqOURkHFv0im4k3r BjG/x43OanS80oEsLRzGJunFIuFOJFYSxjiSjfnwseG+cFxB8dFDcuA/TdXNdfDo Nue0LkpHCcXP4BiRt1v8p6ZZf9l+CJus9undxSQQlffTv+htHc2Enn8iRL/KB535 at+JKVPKV6BFz9W45BSRSVK3PYPXTERIzPBQa1Gt6OBfLjPvEUG3dn8SzXIjWTd1 I9DIoF2Pq+h8ozgzzntb =PRch -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rivanvx at gmail.com Wed Jan 6 20:46:21 2010 From: rivanvx at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Vedran_Mileti=C4=87?=) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 21:46:21 +0100 Subject: [Drafts] Command Line Survival Guide Message-ID: Hi guys, parts of Command Line Survival Guide written by my students and me are coming online. There is a lot of material here, and I decided to release it in draft form instead of perfecting it first (and it can never be perfect either!). It's not all up yet, but it's getting added right now. If anything catches your attention, feel free to contribute: change, reword, add, whatever. Styling is especially bad at the moment -- I have to go through all the text yet. But, if anyone feels like an expert with styling, feel free to do it. The link with all the stuff is: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/CommandLineSurvivalGuide Also, I admit that some sections are better than others, but it can probably be sufficently improved in time for Fedora 13. Regards, -- Vedran Mileti? From maxamillion at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 6 21:08:03 2010 From: maxamillion at fedoraproject.org (Adam Miller) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 15:08:03 -0600 Subject: [Drafts] Command Line Survival Guide In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2010/1/6 Vedran Mileti? : > Hi guys, > > parts of Command Line Survival Guide written by my students and me are > coming online. There is a lot of material here, and I decided to > release it in draft form instead of perfecting it first (and it can > never be perfect either!). It's not all up yet, but it's getting added > right now. > > If anything catches your attention, feel free to contribute: change, > reword, add, whatever. Styling is especially bad at the moment -- I > have to go through all the text yet. But, if anyone feels like an > expert with styling, feel free to do it. > > The link with all the stuff is: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/CommandLineSurvivalGuide > > Also, I admit that some sections are better than others, but it can > probably be sufficently improved in time for Fedora 13. > > Regards, > > -- > Vedran Mileti? > > -- > fedora-docs-list mailing list > fedora-docs-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-docs-list Oh that's great! I'd actually like to use this as a basis for a talk to the Computer Science student organization here on campus once it comes to fruition. Many thanks to all those involved in this and if there are parts that could use some extra focus on, I'd be willing to offer a hand when I can find some time. -AdamM -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com --------------------------------------------------------- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments From nathan.thomas at peacenik.co.uk Wed Jan 6 21:48:59 2010 From: nathan.thomas at peacenik.co.uk (Nathan Thomas) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 21:48:59 +0000 Subject: Submitting a patch Message-ID: <4B45054B.1060302@peacenik.co.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From r.landmann at redhat.com Wed Jan 6 22:26:57 2010 From: r.landmann at redhat.com (Ruediger Landmann) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 08:26:57 +1000 Subject: Submitting a patch In-Reply-To: <4B45054B.1060302@peacenik.co.uk> References: <4B45054B.1060302@peacenik.co.uk> Message-ID: <4B450E31.1030500@redhat.com> On 01/07/2010 07:48 AM, Nathan Thomas wrote: > I have my first patch ready for submission (a correction to the User's > Guide), but I've never submitted a patch using git before, and I'm in > need of some help! Unfortunately the Fedora Documentation Guide only > mentions CVS. What is the standard procedure for submitting patches to > git repositories? Hi Nathan -- we don't actually submit patches through git; we push the corrected XML straight to the repo. Follow the instructions here to gain access to the User Guide: https://fedorahosted.org/userguide/ and you'll be able to check in your correction. Cheers Rudi From sparks at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 6 22:40:53 2010 From: sparks at fedoraproject.org (Eric "Sparks" Christensen) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:40:53 -0500 Subject: new member introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B451175.6080104@fedoraproject.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 12/27/2009 03:33 PM, Vikram Dhillon wrote: > Hi all, > How are you guys doing? I have been writing documentation for > various project: Firefox, GNOME, KDE, FreeBSD and others, and I would > like to get started with writing documentation for fedora. How can I > get started here. Thanks for the help in getting me started :D Welcome Vikram. We have our meetings at 0001UTC on Thursdays (in just a couple of hours) on the Fedora Meeting IRC channel[1]. This is where we discuss what's going on and what projects need help. Currently there is work ongoing on our guides[2]. If one of them look interesting you can throw a message out on the list and you should get a response. Again, welcome aboard. Please join us on IRC. We are in #fedora-docs on Freenode. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_meeting_channel [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project#Formal_documentation - --Eric -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJLRRF0AAoJEDbiLlqcYamxS/0P/A7e4J//KeeiKYVMtDfcc90v LmuF/AjCGWl+DMOP63g9LhT0fK86a6I6/+sNCRSIcybMB7dvHJqnfs32O+1eWBOr 8AZnymOaiKzWeizxpGRwFi/p1ozUJMEfC5DaEQT5XNwnJpGBxKaXLPbrKinMIp5q wyOZI/fIIZjEqKNwblcHBt86UKT2g9WZ3FPqrJjuo9rKjEay9hNoUVLT0YOnj31/ aOB5FdnwgBZL1i78m3+ypouEPCIFQVcULk5KZGbSyCgnrB34qxg8G0aQzlIx/PFz 2kNb9gjpwLWm2NtOFyILYCbyCEOviIeeoODjCCzabQWHkgDl7HZH0rREOzdPWz0P rUI9J/AaSJX/lXUPFkFRVfQ+kWGWyHSGtghcmiwNeiQ+C36vP2vprO/NjEYzIxmB 80A/N5rZgl3Da+3J1SWyfkiKnu1XNZOEUE2JK1f1tvF5/uzHBzjmgP5W73wLbSnQ JqZ8EuvazHTzmS7TV5zpEbr/rzUYduTe/HqVgCovJyqpCTPwwYGw0XT+OBCQ9+hq /7cJjhAQ4ZHX8XFtfeYySPEglJAZPmTv4aNgOLDjeV60VP5UsFfDOXNvvfCUU0/J o+x+Aa3Oe2828A4+G1zPLC9otH9fqmenr8MC4iLPBqfQK1ZkKn5JB/VD/yvZaEjY CUsGumAA7ntCLL8/KriF =kcps -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sparks at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 6 22:43:57 2010 From: sparks at fedoraproject.org (Eric "Sparks" Christensen) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:43:57 -0500 Subject: Hi Self Intro. In-Reply-To: <5a0f3a3b1001010046q52b04f98mcbb4af677633723d@mail.gmail.com> References: <5a0f3a3b1001010046q52b04f98mcbb4af677633723d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B45122D.5060902@fedoraproject.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 01/01/2010 03:46 AM, DHAWAL GUDA wrote: > Hi friends, > > This is Dhawal from Hyderabad, India. I am 24 years old and working as a > network Engineer at HMRI(104 service) Hyderabad. I started using > Linux(Fedora,Ubuntu) since May 2009 and have never looked back to Xp. I > am an B.tech(IT) graduate and have recently completed my RHCE cert. > > This is my first project which i am joining in the fedora community. I > have written many general articles for my school and college thus have a > working knowledge on writing articles combined with my linux cert makes > me an ideal match for this project. Welcome Dhawal. Everything I wrote to Vikram applies to you as well. We are in F13 mode and everyone is working to write updates to their guides. Please join us for our meetings! - --Eric -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJLRRIsAAoJEDbiLlqcYamxWOsQALzhnMXu0T1zEYp8aUQa/7Al 6ZqxFYKzMN3borrdwSC5psSWE3+pYBwEGm9DTyuHIway8IN01Ef82kbggi52K2QD nI824rd9Sa76onCvERTjUY+31fX8L6lcjkwrKtvzkPnGHwvl4m0njKm/8eMnkJtp o556n1vbgfXyaVPHO8tWerApnJyVoX2CfO7S5zoiONHbQAKGJy85LlZ2iPD5CbkI DylgDJ6Emab6WGpMXR8q6ECXsY1GvEYXJw0ekJ1b03jib8L0QOqZXlVmdEzYBNRd +O5+ZJsMDrAv70kjI/jE340JnflbC4ATJNhUF0ji4ASrltK+2/7500I25iHv8Ib0 Zt4hpafDzIKryISFYd8ax+5HM0tRd++JRWpPoAYyRY4PXR8J3U6Wm76mNxMWReHw f3dPNjf4Tl98hhdolU2maSJKQF4ZMiQeRft9zMM4mbcmtIXV+YOAdKiid+4CVPeB OdZQbREZQX89tcl34SezoyXD3iSmcQDpGI67cBMQC71W5Fn7Ko3W47YeiMx0qZi2 AMaNlRDpvB8bPJHeqoiVshOpukghd/hyYt+5fs9o6bClqfxgp11nK7Rylb/SmpKt me25QDrgD7eFcxMjgOlLRWYVoosrBeM45Rg3Ss6TEs12S2VjYQjXq4FQg1bA0KAV vl8sTKVtzuCZRCSDPTMc =9cxt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sparks at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 6 22:45:57 2010 From: sparks at fedoraproject.org (Eric "Sparks" Christensen) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:45:57 -0500 Subject: help needed In-Reply-To: <5a0f3a3b1001010223s372c0653r5422a7567b9a8a28@mail.gmail.com> References: <5a0f3a3b1001010223s372c0653r5422a7567b9a8a28@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B4512A5.5050702@fedoraproject.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 01/01/2010 05:23 AM, DHAWAL GUDA wrote: > Hi friends, > > Can anyone please tell me which appropriate group to join and how to > join the group. I have already send my self intro to the mailing list. > Please follow the procedure on our wiki[1]. That page should contain links to everything you need to do. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Joining_the_Docs_Project - --Eric -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJLRRKlAAoJEDbiLlqcYamxXDkQAKVYLVzhuVGGCl7nY0v4v8mO FC9ICBVuR1EkvsEFy3GWEpnslo39+jIPemHJuoqjv8y/Jdu49WXHwZhsLPkOivjw NIvvhJQBbuq5hQ0Le/1ECotVmE54r7HFJtHqAs6S7dNvw/ZQ3NoSdydaOVA/kMjb 4LZX5fkqn8TZ3n1h/T8j2seIyreccXsecD7YHP+q3nbtk5XrfwPxXwNEClE5Y6Rp nZ56I0D99i/4b81GFAjisMdcUw3dfR7dYnV0+m02KEPi/4tAM2qd7ro6Fr3sLhq8 yja7iKqGHfNAFx6GWPCVEMEaSlehW3SFYdqczHm/ZSxQqdEXwq/UYWF43xohDRxz zho3iVZexKCzVsQgCc3sLttjdGaJoD4D3LlOWbUPZc/KMY33BDKEgPRRfRR2o019 kgK4wgi6q3slOcjUGrD1naNzfWF+d7WEMzO0wEu/rsDC03z3YSu3M7vTO91LlqOr ySlmYzBIuyZ7Yk00IPHdIQAG/eBCV2TtTQT9SugznObdN7pbClmdYgUcqEr917Yu TIN/KFLsu+wcSGBIznGfb3pVScTEf9UyUdF2NZhjsw02QC2BsruHI48ItqUiySEB FR4tsnbVHAQxcxQfSaZvF8p3y76/QZuZeDCKVwDiL8OecTCxIO7MF6sEMwUFnibK rOzhw2XD4PZtTqGJAafJ =KwTy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nathan.thomas at peacenik.co.uk Wed Jan 6 23:17:35 2010 From: nathan.thomas at peacenik.co.uk (Nathan Thomas) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 23:17:35 +0000 Subject: Submitting a patch In-Reply-To: <4B450E31.1030500@redhat.com> References: <4B45054B.1060302@peacenik.co.uk> <4B450E31.1030500@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4B451A0F.8030907@peacenik.co.uk> Thanks Rudi - I've applied to join the User Guide git commit group. The group user may prefer to receive my first few corrections by email, I'm still very new to this! Cheers Nathan On 06/01/10 22:26, Ruediger Landmann wrote: > On 01/07/2010 07:48 AM, Nathan Thomas wrote: >> I have my first patch ready for submission (a correction to the User's >> Guide), but I've never submitted a patch using git before, and I'm in >> need of some help! Unfortunately the Fedora Documentation Guide only >> mentions CVS. What is the standard procedure for submitting patches to >> git repositories? > > Hi Nathan -- we don't actually submit patches through git; we push the > corrected XML straight to the repo. Follow the instructions here to gain > access to the User Guide: > > https://fedorahosted.org/userguide/ > > and you'll be able to check in your correction. > > Cheers > > Rudi > From dhillonv10 at gmail.com Wed Jan 6 23:49:45 2010 From: dhillonv10 at gmail.com (Vikram Dhillon) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:49:45 -0500 Subject: new member introduction In-Reply-To: <4B451175.6080104@fedoraproject.org> References: <4B451175.6080104@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Eric "Sparks" Christensen wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 12/27/2009 03:33 PM, Vikram Dhillon wrote: >> Hi all, >> ? ? ? ? ?How are you guys doing? I have been writing documentation for >> various project: Firefox, GNOME, KDE, FreeBSD and others, and I would >> like to get started with writing documentation for fedora. How can I >> get started here. Thanks for the help in getting me started :D > > Welcome Vikram. ?We have our meetings at 0001UTC on Thursdays (in just a > couple of hours) on the Fedora Meeting IRC channel[1]. ?This is where we > discuss what's going on and what projects need help. > > Currently there is work ongoing on our guides[2]. ?If one of them look > interesting you can throw a message out on the list and you should get a > response. > > Again, welcome aboard. ?Please join us on IRC. ?We are in #fedora-docs > on Freenode. > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_meeting_channel > [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project#Formal_documentation > > - --Eric > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJLRRF0AAoJEDbiLlqcYamxS/0P/A7e4J//KeeiKYVMtDfcc90v > LmuF/AjCGWl+DMOP63g9LhT0fK86a6I6/+sNCRSIcybMB7dvHJqnfs32O+1eWBOr > 8AZnymOaiKzWeizxpGRwFi/p1ozUJMEfC5DaEQT5XNwnJpGBxKaXLPbrKinMIp5q > wyOZI/fIIZjEqKNwblcHBt86UKT2g9WZ3FPqrJjuo9rKjEay9hNoUVLT0YOnj31/ > aOB5FdnwgBZL1i78m3+ypouEPCIFQVcULk5KZGbSyCgnrB34qxg8G0aQzlIx/PFz > 2kNb9gjpwLWm2NtOFyILYCbyCEOviIeeoODjCCzabQWHkgDl7HZH0rREOzdPWz0P > rUI9J/AaSJX/lXUPFkFRVfQ+kWGWyHSGtghcmiwNeiQ+C36vP2vprO/NjEYzIxmB > 80A/N5rZgl3Da+3J1SWyfkiKnu1XNZOEUE2JK1f1tvF5/uzHBzjmgP5W73wLbSnQ > JqZ8EuvazHTzmS7TV5zpEbr/rzUYduTe/HqVgCovJyqpCTPwwYGw0XT+OBCQ9+hq > /7cJjhAQ4ZHX8XFtfeYySPEglJAZPmTv4aNgOLDjeV60VP5UsFfDOXNvvfCUU0/J > o+x+Aa3Oe2828A4+G1zPLC9otH9fqmenr8MC4iLPBqfQK1ZkKn5JB/VD/yvZaEjY > CUsGumAA7ntCLL8/KriF > =kcps > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > fedora-docs-list mailing list > fedora-docs-list at redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-docs-list > Thanks a lot for getting back to me, I had a look at the docs. page before, and I am currently picking up tasks over at bugzilla and when I do have a patch I will ask you guys to sponsor it and apply it :) -- Regards, Vikram Dhillon ~~~ There are lots of Linux users who don't care how the kernel works, but only want to use it. That is a tribute to how good Linux is. -- Linus Torvalds From r.landmann at redhat.com Thu Jan 7 00:10:13 2010 From: r.landmann at redhat.com (Ruediger Landmann) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 10:10:13 +1000 Subject: Submitting a patch In-Reply-To: <4B451A0F.8030907@peacenik.co.uk> References: <4B45054B.1060302@peacenik.co.uk> <4B450E31.1030500@redhat.com> <4B451A0F.8030907@peacenik.co.uk> Message-ID: <4B452665.8070309@redhat.com> On 01/07/2010 09:17 AM, Nathan Thomas wrote: > Thanks Rudi - I've applied to join the User Guide git commit group. The > group user may prefer to receive my first few corrections by email, I'm > still very new to this! > Wise man :) Feel free to shoot me the patch; I can review it and check it in for you. Cheers Rudi From wb8rcr at arrl.net Thu Jan 7 01:53:18 2010 From: wb8rcr at arrl.net (John J. McDonough) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 20:53:18 -0500 Subject: Docs Meeting 2010-01-07 Summary Message-ID: <1262829198.2383.2.camel@Aidan> =================================================================================================== #fedora-meeting: Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings =================================================================================================== Meeting started by sparks at 00:20:05 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-07/fedora-meeting.2010-01-07-00.20.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (sparks, 00:20:21) * F13 Release Schedule (sparks, 00:22:58) * LINK: http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/f-13-docs-and-trans-tasks.html (sparks, 00:23:07) * Release Notes (sparks, 00:30:10) * ACTION: jjmcd to rebuild F12 Release Notes in HTML-only and test in GNOME, KDE, Xfce, ... (sparks, 00:43:08) * LINK: http://github.com/jjmcd/FedoraDox/tree/master/tools/doc-publican-rpm/ (jjmcd, 00:45:28) * ACTION: sparks to ask on the Planet for assistance on testing LXDE and Sugar (sparks, 00:46:06) * Status on CMS (Zikula) (sparks, 00:50:42) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status (sparks, 00:50:52) * Does yum langpack support help us? (sparks, 00:53:30) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumLangpackPlugin (sparks, 00:53:39) * ACTION: jjmcd and sparks to setup a meeting with spot and others to discuss YumLangpack and HTML (sparks, 00:56:33) * New Guides (sparks, 01:06:12) * Guide needs (sparks, 01:17:36) * Other business (sparks, 01:28:26) * ACTION: sparks to talk to Max about funding (sparks, 01:34:05) Meeting ended at 01:43:28 UTC. Action Items ------------ * jjmcd to rebuild F12 Release Notes in HTML-only and test in GNOME, KDE, Xfce, ... * sparks to ask on the Planet for assistance on testing LXDE and Sugar * jjmcd and sparks to setup a meeting with spot and others to discuss YumLangpack and HTML * sparks to talk to Max about funding Action Items, by person ----------------------- * jjmcd * jjmcd to rebuild F12 Release Notes in HTML-only and test in GNOME, KDE, Xfce, ... * jjmcd and sparks to setup a meeting with spot and others to discuss YumLangpack and HTML * sparks * sparks to ask on the Planet for assistance on testing LXDE and Sugar * jjmcd and sparks to setup a meeting with spot and others to discuss YumLangpack and HTML * sparks to talk to Max about funding * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * sparks (117) * jjmcd (107) * rudi (32) * nathant (18) * dhillon-v10 (13) * mchua (9) * laubersm (5) * zodbot (2) * rivanvx (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot From wb8rcr at arrl.net Thu Jan 7 01:54:44 2010 From: wb8rcr at arrl.net (John J. McDonough) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 20:54:44 -0500 Subject: Docs Meeting 1020-01-07 IRC Log Message-ID: <1262829284.2383.4.camel@Aidan> 00:20:05 #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings 00:20:05 Meeting started Thu Jan 7 00:20:05 2010 UTC. The chair is sparks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 00:20:05 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 00:20:06 jjmcd, I'd vote +1 to work on KDE, and +1 to move GNOME to HTML 00:20:21 #topic Roll Call 00:20:22 * sparks 00:20:28 Big change midstream, but it would eliominate a lot of grief 00:20:33 * jjmcd . 00:20:42 *me 00:21:05 ***nathant 00:21:34 Sorry for being late. I didn't realize the time! 00:21:56 * rudi is here 00:22:34 Okay, let's get started! 00:22:40 ok 00:22:58 #topic F13 Release Schedule 00:23:07 #link http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/f-13-docs-and-trans-tasks.html 00:23:15 poelcat: You around? 00:23:30 I have a few notes, but unfortunately I referenced line #s in the doc sked, and you pointed to the combined sked 00:23:46 Okay, so the URL above is for both the translators and us... 00:23:49 jjmcd: Yeah, sorry. 00:23:59 I was reviewing everything. 00:24:16 Yeah, I should have looked first, but I was fixating on making sure we had the right order 00:24:27 So what do you have for the docs? 00:24:35 But most of my catches were nit-picks, the real meat is ok 00:24:52 Well, the POT generation and html generation really don't match very well 00:25:12 We have 0 days to do the beta notes when in reality we have weeks 00:25:25 Theres the docs.fp.o vs fh.o thing still 00:25:45 Okay, are you going to put those together and send them to poelcat?> 00:25:49 And on GA RNs also an unnecessary delay ins tarting 00:25:52 Yepper 00:26:43 Plus a few notification I would move from beta to ga 00:26:46 but same dates 00:26:51 Cool 00:27:10 Hopefully he can generate the calendar files for me so I won't miss anything. 00:27:29 He has the sources out there so you can do that easily 00:28:11 Hey, another country heard from. Hi Susan 00:28:12 ya 00:28:47 Okay, anythign else on this topic? 00:28:53 * laubersm sneaks in while listening to a basketball game 00:29:56 Okay, moving on 00:30:10 #topic Release Notes 00:30:19 For F12, Release Notes are in XML (Yelp) only. This means there is no easy way for a KDE user to view them. We can display HTML notes in any window manager. However, if we provide XML for Gnome and HTML for KDE, this doubles the size of the package. 00:30:26 We could provide HTML only (and quite easily), but now Gnome users see a major change mid-stream. 00:30:33 If we do anything for KDE, we should talk about where to put the docs on the menu. Talking with rudi before the meeting we may have little choice. 00:31:08 So basically I'm looking for input. I'm pretty open for now 00:31:18 * sparks thinks we might have to do release notes for the Release Notes! 00:31:26 hehe 00:31:38 Well... I'm a big advocate for accessibility... 00:31:56 but I hadn't thought of the accessibility within different desktops... 00:32:06 I feel like nothing for KDE (well, they still have online) is a bad deal 00:32:22 so it would seem that pushing everything as HTML would be the answer. 00:32:27 Thinking about it, maybe a double-sized package might not be a bad idea for the rest of the F12 lifespan? 00:32:28 while I personally use gnome and so "as is" sounds good :) I agree that KDE users need just as easy access to local RN 00:32:40 And look at HTML only for F13? 00:32:48 What about XFCE? 00:32:51 Yeah, I'm kind of leaning that way 00:33:00 Well, html will work for everyone 00:33:13 Xfce Spin doesn't use Yelp 00:33:17 although I have no clue how to make a menu entry for XFCE 00:33:24 That way, nobody gets surprised, and we also get a chance to fine-tune the HTML strategy before F13... 00:33:41 Yeah; we need to look at how to integrate with XFCE too 00:33:53 nathant: Ya... Will Xfce handle html? 00:34:00 Doex XFCE have a .desktop type thingie? 00:34:18 * laubersm loves the technical terms 00:34:24 sparks: Yes, Xfce documentation is in html 00:34:45 jjmcd: Yes, and menu configuration is fairly easy from the look of it 00:34:58 Ahh good. From an rpm? 00:35:50 Think so, there's a package called xfce-doc 00:36:01 nathant, as best I can tell, it is easy to add/replace a file from an rpm. kind of messy to change a file 00:36:40 OK, so for F12 update, html or both? 00:36:53 Sounds like we have support for html only for f13 00:37:05 jjmcd: Do you have time to generate a HTML-only version for F12 so we can play with it? 00:37:12 sure 00:37:42 The f11 update provides html for KDE, but no menu option on Gnome since that is available through yelp 00:38:13 bu you can always open index.html with htmlview 00:38:26 I'm good with aiming F13 towards HTML-only 00:38:37 sparks: I second that 00:38:53 count me in for only html in F13 00:39:07 Okay... who can test a package in KDE? 00:39:24 * rudi volunteers 00:39:27 sparks, I made myself F11 and F12 KDE sticks to test on 00:39:35 Cool 00:39:41 rudi: You are on for KDE 00:39:44 jjmcd, I can help with testing :) 00:40:02 nathant: Can you test in Xfce? 00:40:07 BTW, a stick is the cat's meow for testing cuz you can save off the overlay file and that makes it easy to start over 00:40:09 Sure 00:40:27 Good deal 00:40:46 jjmcd: There you go. 00:40:50 I can test in Xfce 00:40:50 I'll put together an F12 html only with just a few languages so it is small 00:40:59 jjmcd: When do you want to do the tests? 00:41:24 I guess in a few days, my little prog can make the rpm pretty painlessly 00:41:39 jjmcd: It might be good to do this on IRC so any issues can be fixed in real time 00:41:43 I need to do some xfce research 00:41:48 Yeah, good plan 00:41:58 Are we missing any desktops? 00:42:00 OLPC? 00:42:12 errr... Sugar 00:42:14 BTW, did you see my note on the list? The rpm maker sources are on github for the terminally curious 00:42:16 sparks: LXDE 00:43:01 With html, it may only be a matter of providing a handful of menu files 00:43:08 #action jjmcd to rebuild F12 Release Notes in HTML-only and test in GNOME, KDE, Xfce, ... 00:43:21 Yeah; Sugar and LXDE are the only other two that we offer groupinstalls for 00:43:38 Anyone use either of those? 00:44:43 I can shoot something out on the Planet to see if we can get some help 00:44:58 Now there's a good idea 00:45:28 http://github.com/jjmcd/FedoraDox/tree/master/tools/doc-publican-rpm/ 00:45:40 Allows you to make your own custom set of languages 00:46:06 #action sparks to ask on the Planet for assistance on testing LXDE and Sugar 00:46:10 Cool 00:46:20 and there's an rpm at http://github.com/jjmcd/FedoraDox/downloads 00:46:33 If you just want to recklessly install it withough studying the sources 00:47:34 heh 00:47:53 Okay, anything else on the Release Notes? 00:48:09 Oh, F11 00:48:26 An update has been pushed, should hit the repos in the next day or so 00:48:41 It fixes some bugs but also adds a menu item for kde 00:48:59 Testing languages seems a pain in KDE. Maybe rudi can help here 00:49:08 jjmcd -- will do 00:49:13 There must be an easier way 00:49:39 That's what I had on RNs 00:49:57 Cool 00:50:08 Yeah, F11 should be in the wild now 00:50:26 Okay, moving on! 00:50:27 Oh yeah, that RPM makes has man pages, info pages, etc 00:50:42 #topic Status on CMS (Zikula) 00:50:52 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status 00:50:57 ke4qqq: You around? 00:51:40 I think Marketing pushed a Fedora skin for Zikula last week 00:51:44 so that's exciting. 00:51:47 cool 00:52:12 I thought I saw mchua here, perhaps she could brag on it 00:52:29 I haven't heard anything else on this in a while. Hopefully ke4qqq can provide some info on this next week. 00:53:16 Okay, moving on.. 00:53:30 #topic Does yum langpack support help us? 00:53:39 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumLangpackPlugin 00:53:47 jjmcd: Was this of interest? 00:53:49 I have some concerns on how we might make this work 00:54:02 okay 00:54:04 Well, it would be nice, and easy for yelp, not so much for html tho 00:54:23 ya 00:54:35 Do we need it for HTML? 00:54:54 well, yeah, if we are going to do dox in html 00:55:14 true 00:55:23 This would allow us to push selected langs, but for html, I don't know how to make it work 00:55:34 Not that it can't, but I can't see the way. 00:55:38 Why would it be any different? 00:55:50 Perhaps a long heart to heart with spot or some other expert 00:55:56 ya 00:56:00 Well, yelp has some cool features 00:56:33 #action jjmcd and sparks to setup a meeting with spot and others to discuss YumLangpack and HTML 00:56:39 In particular, you can add a language by adding files. HTML doesn't know how to select languages by itself, tho. So you have to MODIFY files which is a lot harder inside rpm 00:57:12 And even if you can the logic is a lot harder 00:57:20 yes 00:57:34 maybe the plugin can be smarter than us 00:57:48 Now you're fantasizing 00:58:12 Maybe we can teach the browser to translate on the fly 00:58:20 well, there's tha 00:58:22 that 00:58:36 Still, it shows promise 00:58:46 I don't think we can dismiss it out of hand 00:58:52 ya 00:59:34 But HTML wouldn't need to know how to select languages by itself... 01:00:07 You'd generally only need one language, you just need to pick the right one initially 01:00:25 Or am I not following the discussion? 01:00:27 nathant, in Gnome, you select a language on logon, and everything (that is translated) shows up in your selected language 01:00:43 Ahh 01:00:47 That makes sense now 01:00:49 In some places (India, Belgium) this is very handy 01:01:09 In India, the guy down the street probably doesn't speak the same language you do 01:01:22 Not quite so bad in Belgium 01:01:34 In Canada, the law requires multilanguage 01:01:50 jjmcd, agreed, I am from India but the differences aren't so much 01:02:14 dhillon-v10, seems like half the languages we have are Indic languages 01:02:27 jjmcd, really wow :) 01:02:58 A lot of them I never heard of 01:03:24 jjmcd, okay i could hlep out with translations then yay :) 01:04:16 They all use weird characters, too. And different 01:04:30 heh 01:05:08 jjmcd, lol 01:05:20 Okay... anythign else on this? 01:05:48 I don't think so. I'll get with spot 01:06:06 cool 01:06:12 #topic New Guides 01:06:17 Any new guides in the works? 01:06:42 sparks, I want to pick the one on live installer, it currently doesn't have anyone to work on it, can i 01:07:16 live installer? 01:07:58 Is that not covered in the Installation Guide? 01:08:19 sparks, sorry its the Live Images one :P 01:08:33 making a live image? 01:09:05 sparks, not quite sure its the last thing on this page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting 01:09:50 Hmm... not sure what that is. 01:10:07 sparks, yah same here :D 01:10:13 That's the live images doc 01:10:42 ie - http://docs.fedoraproject.org/readme-live-image/en-US.html 01:10:46 rudi: Okay, looks like you are handling that doc, correct? 01:10:48 rudi, thanks :) 01:11:08 sparks -- only by virtue of nobody else handling it 01:11:14 I'm more than happy to give it away 01:11:22 AHhh, looks like we have a victim 01:11:27 rudi, can I pick it, I am a new member though 01:11:53 dhillon-v10: rudi is an excellent resource 01:11:53 dhillon-v10 -- that's no problem, but you might want to discuss any changes on the mailing list first before jumping in :) 01:12:30 The only real "trap for new players" is the realization that when we change something in a doc, we create work for 20 or more translation teams 01:12:55 rudi, okay yah I work over at Ubuntu and FreeBSD and it does increase a *lot* of work 01:12:56 So we only change stuff in existing docs if we absolutely *have* to (ie, something is out-of-date and factually wrong) 01:13:57 Okay, anything else for New Guides? 01:14:15 There was a draft Command Line Survival Guide posted to the list today 01:14:43 * sparks hasn't caught up on his email 01:14:45 That looks like a goody 01:15:00 sparks -- power management and resource management guides sometime soon :) 01:15:06 cool 01:15:31 Will start moving as soon as I finish playing whack-a-mole with the IG :) 01:15:37 ya 01:15:44 rudi: let me know if you need a paragraph on the new xfce power manager 01:16:04 nathant -- Ta! I'll make a note 01:16:53 rudi: no problem 01:16:54 * laubersm *should* be available for some proofreading (or more) next week 01:17:29 Okay, let's move to the existing guides 01:17:36 #topic Guide needs 01:17:52 that darn peer 01:18:12 * jjmcd still needs to recruit more helpers for the ARG 01:18:12 Have we figured out if the new Transifex is up and ready? 01:18:25 sparks -- still coming 01:18:32 Okay 01:18:32 But there's definitely traction there now 01:18:37 +1 01:18:57 I need some help with documenting PolicyKit in the Security Guide. 01:19:02 Only about a month until we start sending them publican pots 01:19:02 jjmcd: ARG? 01:19:10 Amateur Radio Guide 01:19:34 Independent of that, we should pick a time soon to migrate all existing Guides' POT and PO files to Publican 1 (in the master branches at least) 01:19:57 jjmcd: We also need to update the RNs and SG for the PackageKit vulnerability 01:20:04 Yep 01:20:21 There are a bunch of updates to F12 rn's I need to do 01:20:21 All my guides are in Publican 1, I think. 01:20:24 And then co-ordinate with L10N when/if to move the Publican 1 PO files into the current working Transifex branches 01:20:34 Now that F11 is put to bed, that is the next big thing 01:20:53 rudi, how much of a pain will that be? 01:21:03 Yeah, the PackageKit thing in the RN and the processors list are still blockers for the 0 --> 1 migration 01:21:22 Also a blocker for me moving my F10 box to F12 01:21:22 jjmcd -- not much of a pain at all, actually. It's just picking the right moment. 01:21:41 There's a few other blockers in the IG 01:22:01 I hope to have those all put to bed in the next few days. 01:22:19 did you see jsmith's Publican bug? 01:22:26 I didn't 01:22:48 I think we're in a position now to fix the PackageKit thing in the RN, but what about the processor list? 01:22:58 I saw that bug, but haven't tested it yet 01:23:04 I should get to that today 01:23:08 I was trying to reproduce it, but had no joy at all making 1.0 work from scratch. Fine with an existing doc but not new 01:23:08 Well, we can push it separately 01:23:36 jjmcd -- that's a bug in 1.0; the issue was fixed in 1.3 01:23:51 Now that ppl are back to work I should be able to get with notting, but I've been on the phone all week it seems 01:24:08 rudi, it was 1.3 i was struggling with 01:24:10 jjmd -- you can also fix it by removing any empty fields from the publican.cfg file 01:24:24 ahh, i'll look at that 01:25:01 It was whining about not finding ___DocName____ 01:25:11 Who knows where all those _ came from 01:26:41 Okay, anything else guide-wise? 01:28:26 #topic Other business 01:28:32 Anyone have anything else? 01:28:42 Want to mention the yelp meeting 01:30:06 Yeah 01:30:23 The Gnome folks are organizing a meeting on help display in March in Chicago. They are getting together Gnome, KDE and XFCE folks from Fedora, The Gnome folks are organizing a meeting on help display in March in Chicago. They are getting together Gnome, KDE and XFCE folks from Fedora, Ubuntu and others to talk about what is needed for help display. 01:30:23 Ubuntu and others to talk about what is needed for help display. 01:31:18 They have some thoughts about an improved language for help content, maybe a common help application 01:31:35 But obviously, their prerspective is from Yelp 01:32:08 Yeah... Looks like some KDE folks have already RSVP'd 01:32:30 I have a conflict on Saturday, but I think I may prioritize this higher 01:33:03 Besides, I need an excuse to buy sparks a guinness 01:33:08 :) 01:34:00 Sparks, you are going by train???? 01:34:05 #action sparks to talk to Max about funding 01:34:14 jjmcd: If I go then I will be going by train, yes 01:34:26 Long ride 01:34:48 better than being strip searched at the airport! 01:34:54 Well, there is that 01:35:08 plus I like taking the train! 01:35:09 It's about 6 hours drive from here, -2 minutes by air 01:35:15 hehe I can see that 01:36:12 Okay, anything else? 01:36:15 I did some teaching at the Motorola University, so I have some experience with the drive 01:36:38 Ya 01:38:27 Okay, thanks everyone for coming! 01:38:39 * mchua here now if zikula updates needed *fades back into background until called* 01:38:57 mchua: Go for it! 01:39:15 I think we may be ready for staging, with hiemanshu's skin package in and working. 01:39:35 Trying to find itbegins to sit down and confirm it - so if y'all see him around, ping plz 01:39:47 that's it - once we get that, we'll be on staging, and shortly thereafter (we assume) production 01:40:14 cool 01:40:26 what's missing for us to use it for docs.fp.o? 01:40:37 you may want a translations workflow. 01:41:13 Other than that, i'm not sure what else you'd need that we don't already have 01:41:32 EOF 01:41:32 excellent 01:41:44 any questions for mchua? 01:42:15 for that matter, if you figure out a translations workflow, we'd love to use it too - Marketing hasn't really had any i18n-ness in our formal workflows in the past, so that's something we'd like to learn from you on. 01:42:34 will do 01:42:40 * mchua can't think of anything else, is done 01:42:58 Okay, thanks mchua for the update 01:43:12 And we'll go ahead and close the meeting at this time. 01:43:22 Thanks, everyone, for coming! 01:43:28 #endmeeting From sparks at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 7 04:25:05 2010 From: sparks at fedoraproject.org (Eric "Sparks" Christensen) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 23:25:05 -0500 Subject: FAD @ SELF 2010 Message-ID: <4B456221.4000909@fedoraproject.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Just saw the advertisement for the Southeast Linuxfest (SELF) in February's edition of Linux Journal. The dates for SELF are June 12th and 13th in Spartinburg, SC. Last summer we hosted a Fedora Activity Day (FAD) for the Docs Project the day after SELF to work on some Zikula items. Would people like to do another FAD after this year's SELF to work on guides and whatnot? - --Eric -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJLRWIgAAoJEDbiLlqcYamx2rkP/AlC8xh3sVqJgS5ovrjLlX6Q yyNljQSdClT20+mmgWOy5AuPW1Xq62pbi2vfKMixm344SFfm/MCFl2PYJNHdODtC Fl91IjvaLrf1y96pl5VrdRuFhuplbEyshh3Mk6XlOcdMqi+FVTqeipzFtjMpoPnF 4EFOXkU4FkUNWFQt86fIDf9KmvsYstYWMndKuriNFSsi38ku4++f7bJoEPceAtyb bHKYX5F6VQVpXx50ljBStO4TESMWNTs1BnBktD3qUl8wISdvqDB7aByvg8MoNHzM 8wMiSQNiGjnRx/ns8VEcCly0hZpqC6ffLf9mvc8VPj2/344MqkV+yZpCp/WWneh/ TOJTAZScMKLD9oxEauG3yRMP+jFHbl94XRgjNhu8T6a677LtghnayvykUJN4HHYW zhmkTSuGJiU3bAFQE24IR34iudahLuM5yjfJyWxazzWDClDLZd3tfqAyi2/DPo70 ZWjrko9ysbFnjWJRQPQHpQ3YVwG/WejqYyvraDHgRk2R+lQojm+CL+QERl3XiTfV MjhRZhwrQUVtzIPAKdhs1GdqPnU91sUyHxDoV9ub9XP7DDt+K/Abjt2I06lonLub Hb92GEk4A+ymyph+BtSJOcUDnwcsby/rO2QpEgEpNn7Fbra/AE+2ZJNPOS3fWm8U 7Y7b5b64Ovl2+K9hgGYT =K69/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rivanvx at gmail.com Thu Jan 7 09:23:34 2010 From: rivanvx at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Vedran_Mileti=C4=87?=) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 10:23:34 +0100 Subject: [Drafts] Command Line Survival Guide In-Reply-To: <59940.132.178.249.74.1262836648.squirrel@webmail.freeshell.org> References: <59940.132.178.249.74.1262836648.squirrel@webmail.freeshell.org> Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 4:57 AM, wrote: > Hi, > > I believe I tried to mention about this previously, there already exists > a free open source command line guide in the link below. > http://en.flossmanuals.net/ > > It should be a good resource in developing a command line documentation in > the fedora project. I will try to provide some hands on it some time soon. Thanks for offering your help and information about this resource. My primary inspiration was http://doc.mandrivalinux.com/MandrivaLinux/101/en/Command-Line.pdf -- a bit out of date, but mostly useful, while JamesMcElhannon found his inspiration in Debian's CLI manual. Nevertheless, it's always good to have more than one source. As I mentioned, the text is quite raw indeed. Formatting is bad, but I'm fixing it as I progress in through all the written stuff. One thing that is outstanding is that "Commonly Used Commands" section needs to be reformed with a bit more examples, and uncommon parameters removed. If someone wants to do it, feel free to; I will start working on it as soon as I find time. -- Vedran Mileti? From nathan.thomas at peacenik.co.uk Thu Jan 7 15:35:04 2010 From: nathan.thomas at peacenik.co.uk (Nathan Thomas) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:35:04 +0000 Subject: Submitting a patch In-Reply-To: <4B452665.8070309@redhat.com> References: <4B45054B.1060302@peacenik.co.uk> <4B450E31.1030500@redhat.com> <4B451A0F.8030907@peacenik.co.uk> <4B452665.8070309@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4B45FF28.2060103@peacenik.co.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thanks! Patch is attached. Best wishes Nathan On 07/01/10 00:10, Ruediger Landmann wrote: > On 01/07/2010 09:17 AM, Nathan Thomas wrote: >> Thanks Rudi - I've applied to join the User Guide git commit group. The >> group user may prefer to receive my first few corrections by email, I'm >> still very new to this! >> > > Wise man :) > > Feel free to shoot me the patch; I can review it and check it in for you. > > Cheers > Rudi > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktF/ygACgkQ7+C/UZ0/VkAI+wCghLCAPK2jwg7jFQbzQtyYQSmV ICsAoLeFjGrCf7GP2FZKmA30kR8B1yHP =IPso -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 0001-Update-DE-selection-for-GDM-2.28.patch Type: text/x-patch Size: 1821 bytes Desc: not available URL: From r.landmann at redhat.com Thu Jan 7 23:06:46 2010 From: r.landmann at redhat.com (Ruediger Landmann) Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 09:06:46 +1000 Subject: Submitting a patch In-Reply-To: <4B45FF28.2060103@peacenik.co.uk> References: <4B45054B.1060302@peacenik.co.uk> <4B450E31.1030500@redhat.com> <4B451A0F.8030907@peacenik.co.uk> <4B452665.8070309@redhat.com> <4B45FF28.2060103@peacenik.co.uk> Message-ID: <4B466906.1030705@redhat.com> On 01/08/2010 01:35 AM, Nathan Thomas wrote: > Thanks! Patch is attached. > Fantastic -- I've checked it in for you: http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=docs/user-guide.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8ac108650a1d82d2642e3ac3c68aa67296561fb Note that I also added you to the contributors section of the doc, plus updated the Revision History to reflect the change. Thanks for the input. If you'd like to hack away on the User Guide a bit further, you might like to take a look at some of these bugs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=Fedora&product=Fedora%20Documentation&component=user-guide&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED I also remember seeing an issue raised *somewhere* recently about the description of the XFCE desktop in the User Guide being outdated -- describing a top-and-bottom panel instead of a single panel at the bottom, but I can't find that anywhere now... (apologies if it was you who raised it!) Anyway, since you're our new-found XFCE specialist, you might like to take a look at that issue as well ;) Cheers! Rudi