IRC log FDSCo meeting 19-Sep-2006

[Karsten Wade]

<quaid> shall we talk about
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/TaskSchedule?
<stickster> But it's not hard for people to figure out where I am
though :-)
<stickster> Sure, what the hey!
<quaid> or, you know, we could just slack :D
<stickster> Well, we could make it short and sweet
<stickster> Shall I report, mon capitan?
<stickster> The FIG only needs new screenshots... still no Anacondan
feedback, but I'm not expecting any at this point
<stickster> I will pick up the translations from test3 this week and
check in for a rebuild and post the "beta" to the Web site
<quaid> http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/User-Group-HOWTO.html
<stickster> quaid: I did have a question about PO files... when you get
them from Trans, what exactly do you do with them? Do you overwrite your
existing checkout and checkin the new ones?
<quaid> actually, SinghA has been doing it, and that is what I think he
does
<quaid> the versioning is in CVS, so you can just overwrite the local
copy with impugnity
<quaid> when is/did test three drop(ping)?
<stickster> Oh, OK.  I will simply send a message to Trans on Friday to
have this done.  There was a delay from the last drop since someone
munged the PO with CR/LF
<stickster> I did it on the target date, or the day after, but with that
problem, it didn't get put in by aalam until 9/15
<stickster> I want to give them a week at least... the changes should be
minimal from there to final
<stickster> We'll make sure the next one is golen
<stickster> *golden
<quaid> ok
<stickster> I'm going to spend part of tonight beefing up my calendar,
but we really should see if Plone has a way for us to share calendar
information for TODOs and other targets
<stickster> *sigh*
<stickster> Need more time in the day, or to figure out a way to get a
job as caddy for Max :-D
<quaid> .ics?
<stickster> Right
<quaid> there ya go
<quaid> so, f13 isn't around to ask ...
<stickster> Right
<quaid> 'sup with test3 release date?
<stickster> Errr... uh?
<stickster> You mean final?
<quaid> oh, sorry, have I been asleep?
* quaid is sure he is sub'd to f-announce-l
<stickster> test3 released on last Thurs
<stickster> Right now we are go for the schedule as posted on
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Core/Schedule
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<stickster> So are docs target dates AFAIK
<stickster> So we'll end up about 9-10 days behind for test3 posting
FIG, but we will make schedule for final
<quaid> ok
<stickster> I spent a bunch of time working on revamping the packaging
for release-notes... now works like it _should_
<stickster> I.e. no unnecessary building
* quaid has been busy with his Application Stack related duties for the
last two weeks
<quaid> so I need to get the DUG announced, too
<stickster> Understood, took a quick look last night at the front page
<stickster> I have one AOB
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<quaid> aye?
<stickster> DocG... I would like to take up drafting this on the wiki, I
think
<stickster> As evil-twin as that sounds from me
* quaid falls off his chair
<quaid> good thing I was standing up already!
<stickster> I mean, not *just* me, but I think we ought to just work on
it there, publicly
<quaid> no, this would be a good test for the docbook -> wiki :)
<quaid> and let us easily incorporate the wiki stuff right into it
<stickster> Yeah, and it's just not getting enough traction given the
long toolchain for DocBook -> build -> publish right now
<stickster> Even if I was to actually complete major sections of it, the
toolchain is in flux often enough that it's easier to fix the wiki than
to do it the other way
* stickster is just being practical, he thinks
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<quaid> :)
<quaid> what is the new target date for the FIG?
<stickster> Well, as written on the wiki currently still works for me...
i.e. freeze 28 Sep and go on from there
<stickster> oops, freeze 27
<stickster> then POT to Trans on 28th
<quaid> sorry, i mean for test3?
<stickster> Oh, sorry
* stickster is often confused and not responsible for his words
<quaid> aye
<stickster> test3, I will ask for PO back from Trans on the night of the
21st (22nd UTC) and publish it ASAP after that
<stickster> let's say 9/24
<stickster> (But probably closer to 9/22 or 9/23)
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<quaid> ok
<quaid> stickster: so, packaging is "just right" now?
<stickster> It is very possible that there will be _no_ changes in the
text for final, which means we'll be ahead of the game
<quaid> here is the /wiki blurb
<quaid> Packaging is now ''Just Right'';  we are working on more changes
for the contents of that package, and a new fedora-release-faq based on
the [:FAQ:Fedora FAQ] ''may'' be in the works following FC6; we are
going to push new docs packages into Extras and make a group of packages
available, now useful even during install. Working on new default Web
browser home page to replace release notes; aka Splash, see next item. 
<stickster> Can we say 95% Just Right?
<stickster> :-)
<stickster> I am antsy about it but that's because I'm, well, just
antsy.
* stickster dithers hopelessly
<stickster> I need to get a hold of glezos to see if he has tried his
style sheet from a HTML build of the XML-version splash source I wrote
and posted for him to try
<quaid> ok
<stickster> I wrote DocBook XML for that page, but I may not have given
him enough info to work on it against his CSS
<quaid> ah, there's the announcement, on f-devel-l
<stickster> megacoder has written some cool script-fu to autoload the
right language HTML page into the browser
<quaid> guess we don't want the genpop at it?
<stickster> genpop?
<stickster> general population
<stickster> it ==?
<quaid> yes
<quaid> anyway, sorry, that was an aside
<quaid> I was on my way down to f-docs-l and saw that :)
<stickster> oh, FC6t3
<quaid> sorry
* stickster needs to be ignored, hard
<quaid> ok, so glezos update is, ready to move to XML?
<quaid> and other stuff
<quaid> I was going to follow-up with f-artwork but didn't
<quaid> he didn't get a reply
<stickster> Yeah, he got some this week
<stickster> I read it on the list... at least Mairin did IIRC
<stickster> A few of the mockups looked very elegant IMHO
<stickster> Yup, I see much discussion from yesterday and today on
f-artwork-l
<stickster> quaid: Sorry, I got lured into reading :-)
<quaid> ok, good
<stickster> What is our next step for Splash then?
<stickster> Should I contact Dim and give him explicit instructions for
how to test an easy module build using our XML -> HTML toolchain, to
make sure his CSS sticks properly?
<quaid> final review version is due tomorrow
<quaid> package changes for it are done?
<stickster> No, not yet
<quaid>
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Schedule#splash-page-schedule
<stickster> But those changes depend on how we're going to fit the
pieces together
<quaid> stickster: yes, that sounds like a good thing, or at least ask
if he knows the steps and outline them
<quaid> ok
* stickster unhappily found out that the XSLT for labeling @id
attributes on HTML doesn't work like it should
<stickster> Otherwise, it would have been done already :_(
<quaid> mainly I wanted an early enough date for you to be comfie with
<stickster> I can live with it :-)
<quaid> ok
<stickster> I will email him tonight
* stickster did it again
<stickster> OK... I guess that's good for tonight, right?
<quaid> yes
<quaid> sorry, been in dinner land for the last few minutes
<stickster> It's OK
<quaid> (cooking)
<stickster> I'm not as efficient as you RH guys
<quaid> ok
<quaid> <meeting/>
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