Fedora-education-list Digest, Vol 8, Issue 2

khalid Hussain khalidhu at gmail.com
Fri Dec 1 02:41:56 UTC 2006 

Dear Sir/Madam,

here m facing to many problems in my FC4, when i configure squid  and start
services its giving line58 error when start squid service.
another issue i installed Realplayer10Gold for music playing its only
playing audio and i cant play vedio. Help me in this regards.
Regards,
Khalid

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>    1. Thinking about Thinking and about Educational
>       Commerce--Interviews      with Stephen Downes and Larry Augustin
>       (Steve Hargadon)
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> From: "Steve Hargadon" <hargadon at gmail.com>
> Subject: Thinking about Thinking and about Educational
>         Commerce--Interviews    with Stephen Downes and Larry Augustin
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> http://educationbridges.net/k12opensource/wp-content/uploads/StephenDownes.mp3
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> http://educationbridges.net/k12opensource/wp-content/uploads/StephenDownes.ogg
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> http://educationbridges.net/k12opensource/wp-content/uploads/LarryAugustin.mp3
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> While it becomes clear that Stephen Downes and I have different
> experiences and different opinions, my interview with him was quite
> fascinating and also illustrative of a principle about blogging and
> podcasting that I have been thinking about quite a bit lately.
>
> Will Richardson has written and said many times that blogging starts
> with reading. What that means to me is that when I read other blogs, I
> am exposed to someone else's ideas, and it starts a creative process
> where I think about what they have written and can agree, disagree, or
> expand on their thoughts. Like Doc Searls says, blogging can be like
> tossing a snowball downhill--if an idea starts to gain speed, it will
> grow and expand, building on the original idea kernel. The magic of
> blogging is that it seems to allow for diverse and multiple voices to
> quickly combine and create innovative, compelling, feedback-rich
> threads of thought. So for me, blogging is ultimately about thinking,
> and I love thinking.
>
> The interview with Stephen provided me with a lot of opportunity for
> thinking, and largely because he and I come from fairly different
> perspectives. Since two of my four children have had some
> homeschooling, you'll hear me try to mitigate what I think are some of
> the common perceptions about homeschoolers/homeschooling. But the
> issue that really has lingered with me for some days is the discussion
> on commercial companies and the educational system.
>
> Granted, folks in Canada are probably more used to government-run
> solutions than we in the States, but it sorrows me to think--if
> Stephen is representative--that we have determined that the form and
> function of for-profit businesses forces them to make decisions which
> are not in the interests of anyone but themselves. I guess it sorrows
> me because it has partly become true, but also because we largely
> don't seem to be able to see beyond some current mindsets about
> business. There was a time when we really admired certain companies
> (HP and the "HP Way," for example), and in my mind it's been a long 15
> years during which individual stock-trading seems to created a mindset
> that values only quarterly profits--and believes that profit is the
> one measure that benefits everyone.
>
> Another sad trend in the commercial marketplace over same period of
> time has been the use of "lock-in" as a customer strategy. Granted, as
> customers demand lower prices and more value, "lock-in" looks
> attractive to the supplier because of the costs of marketing and
> acquiring customers is hard to shoulder on a single low-cost
> transaction--but it has given the proprietary software industry a
> pretty bad reputation in some areas, and deservedly so. Placing an
> emphasis on "lock-in" seems to directly minimize the effort to create
> a satisfied customer who continues doing business because of their
> positive experiences. Is there an alternative to "lock-in" when
> customers want more and more, but to pay less and less?
>
> There is a fascinating opportunity for discussion here, especially in
> light of the other interview I want to point out, one I recorded with
> Larry Augustin on the business of Open Source, who is an angel
> investor and is on the board of a number of companies based on Open
> Source software. Because Free and Open Source software is so much at
> the heart of both the Internet and Web 2.0, it might seem that some of
> the core values of the movement would make their way back into the
> business world. Google may, in many ways, be the great test case of
> this, with their "don't be evil" motto, the general trust people place
> in them, and their willingness to give away services. But with
> increasing power and information will come the temptations and
> pressures to create financial gain in areas where there won't be
> general public agreement as to how Google should act. Can they keep to
> a high road and satisfy all their constituencies? It will be
> interesting to watch.
>
> Some questions:
>
>     * Do we believe that companies operate only on the pursuit of
> selfish interests? That would obviously be too broad a generalization,
> but Stephen gives the impression that no for-profit companies can be
> trusted.
>     * Do we think that a free market, even with the problems we see
> today, ultimately produces the best long-term result?
>     * While many talk about "selfish interest" being the driving force
> behind a free-market economy, might we not argue that "choice" and the
> freedom to make choices is just as compelling a rationale for the free
> market, and a better framework for providing moral guidance?
>     * Is a government bureaucracy, like the one Stephen describes to
> handle all school purchases, just as likely to produce negative
> results as the free market? What would be lost with centralized
> decision-making and what would be gained?
>     * Is there an alternative to commercial marketing to schools? Does
> the shilling of educational technology at trade show exhibition halls
> help or hurt schools and students?
>     * Does it ultimately come down to just being a good/informed consumer?
>     * What companies have you dealt with in the school market that
> have been "purpose-driven" or are ones that you trust? Are there many,
> or are there few?
>
> These, and other interviews, can be downloaded or listened to directly
> at http://edtechlive.wikispaces.com/Recordings+List
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> --
> Steve Hargadon
> steve at hargadon.com
> 916-899-1400 direct
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> www.PublicWebStations.com - (Disaster & Shelter WebStation Software)
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