x86_64 blocks i386?

Nils Philippsen nphilipp at redhat.com
Mon Mar 21 13:28:40 UTC 2005

On Mon, 2005-03-21 at 13:10 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:38:12 +0100, Nils Philippsen wrote:
> > On Sun, 2005-03-20 at 23:01 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > > Michael Schwendt (bugs.michael at gmx.net) said: 
> > > > Since I only just noticed that the requested rebuilds for gpgme and
> > > > gpgme03 in FE Development were not published, because they failed on
> > > > x86_64, I got to ask:
> > > > 
> > > > When and where has it been decided that x86_64 blocks i386?
> > > 
> > > Well, if you want to play by the same rules as Core, any 
> > > arch failure blocks all arches. There have been arguments, of
> > > course, as to how well this rule works. :)
> > 
> > It has worked well for me in the past, I didn't need to be kicked in the
> > butt to fix problems on "other" arches. But then I'm only re-stating
> > what I already said ;-).
> Before this threads gets out of hand, it's a matter of what you can expect
> community volunteers to do.


> No AMD64 test machine running F4T1+Extras, debugging x86_64 build or
> run-time problems can become an impossible mission.
> No AMD64 enthusiasts who would be looking into announced blocker bugs in a
> timely manner, the requirement for packages to build on more than the h/w
> architecture the packager volunteered to support, is dangerous.
> During FC2 and FC3 test periods, the fedora.us requirement for packages to
> build not just for the last stable release but also compile fine with
> current FC Development added a significant hurdle already. It is wishful
> thinking, that community contributors not just follow FC Devel or early
> test releases, but also can test and debug on more than one h/w arch.

Hmm. I agree that we can't expect everyone to be able to debug on every
arch, be it due to missing hardware, experience or both. Still I would
be in favour of a rule that before anything hits stable trees it must be
built on all (primary -- for whatever that is, we haven't as many arches
as Debian yet) architectures. We don't want a situation where Extras on
i386 is cool but sucks on another platform.

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