duplicate filenames in the different packages [qstat vs. torque]

Garrick Staples garrick at usc.edu
Fri Aug 4 16:32:39 UTC 2006

On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 03:18:30PM +0200, Axel Thimm alleged:
> On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 02:40:11PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > >>Tonight I've received the following bug
> > >>http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=201279
> > >>I'm packager of the qstat tool. But the torque (in torque-client) 
> > >>already consists the /usr/bin/qstat.
> > 
> > >Why isn't this program called "torque-qstat"? You could patch it and
> > >rename it like that. What is the sense in creating such a short and
> > >generic name like "qstat"? Is the program useful outside of "torque"?
> > >Could it be placed in /usr/libexec/torque/qstat instead if not renamed?
> > Thanks for opinoin, but I think some miscommunication is present here. 
> > I'm not a packager of torque. As I understand you correctly the issue 
> > inhere torque than qstat. Anyway I've filled bug to torque with 
> > references to this maillist discussion already. I'm wating for torque 
> > packager response.
> The bugzilla URL would be nice.
> On the use of qstat: qstat/qsub and friends have been around in
> Unix/Linux queuing systems for some decades now, and it is expected by
> users of these systems to find the tools under qstat and not
> dqs-qstat, nqs-qstat or torque-qstat.

The name "qstat" is actually a requirement in POSIX 1003.2d, and as Axel
stated, it has been implemented by many batch queueing systems over the

If we had more than 1 batch queueing system, than setting up an
alternatives system would work.

> I'm not sure how to fix this issue, but renaming qstat in torque is
> bad. Given that not many systems will run quake and a queuing managing
> system in parallel maybe Conflicts: is the lesser evil.

Why bother with a Conflicts: tag?  They already conflict, don't they?

Garrick Staples, Linux/HPCC Administrator
University of Southern California
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