Wiki not editable?

[Patrick W. Barnes]

On Saturday 15 July 2006 15:37, Enrico Scholz 
<enrico.scholz at informatik.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote:
> skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) writes:
> >> > Enrico, it's a wiki.  A friggin wiki.  The whole idea is that
> >> > people can edit pages.
> >>
> >> This whole sh^Wissue started because the Fedora Wiki admins think
> >> different... ;)
> >
> > not true. This fedora wiki admins was asked
>
> sorry; please s!admins!commanders!
>
> > to make the packaging tree of the wiki restricted so spot could work
> > on it.
>
> When I interpret statements in this thread correctly, this "so ... could
> work on it" became a "forever" :(
>

We aren't trying to violate your rights, but we do need to maintain 
organization on the wiki, and that's what prompted the movement of your page.  
Your insistence upon keeping it in a non-conformant location is what made 
this a real problem.  We told you in the beginning why the Packaging/ 
hierarchy had restricted ACLs and what your options were to work around it.  
We told you why the page was placed in the PackagingDrafts/ hierarchy.  We 
aren't trying to violate your will with regard to the purposes of the 
document, but we must have your cooperation in maintaining organization.  If 
you take the time to look at the organization of other, similar pages, our 
reasons and practices might become more clear.  It also wouldn't hurt for you 
to communicate with the Packaging Committee.

You also need to clearly understand the CLA and its purpose.  Rather than 
attempt to summarize anything, I'll recommend that you look over the Legal 
section of the wiki carefully.  You should know that signing the CLA and 
submitting it to the wiki licenses it under the terms of the OPL without 
options.  It also grants an irrevocable copyright license to the Fedora 
Project.  While you are free to offer it under other licenses, you also 
cannot restrict the usage of the document in any way beyond the OPL.  Among 
other things, this means that you cannot prevent it from being moved or 
organized in a different manner, whether you agree with it or not.  If you 
want to apply such restrictions, you shouldn't submit your documents to the 
Fedora Project.  It isn't in the spirit of FOSS to restrict your documents in 
that manner, and we won't support it.

The responsible thing to do when there's something you disagree with is to 
bring the issue up to the appropriate group or committee.  In this case, you 
could be talking to FESCo, the Packaging Committee and the Websites team.

Even though this page represents an optional method of package management, it 
applies globally to the Fedora Project when the packager chooses to use it.  
The UserRegistry page also has global applications, but it can't be moved 
without ACL adjustment, as packagers must have write access to it.  The end 
goal is to get all pages related to packaging policy and practices under the 
Packaging/ hierarchy.  The ACLs will be loosened over the full hierarchy and 
tightened only on specific pages as needed after the content in that 
hierarchy matures.  At that point, it will be perfectly safe to keep the 
UserRegistry and UserCreation pages within that hierarchy.  The only reason 
we had been keeping UserCreation in the Drafts hierarchy is to allow you (and 
other editors) to continue working on it until that point.  That's why the 
redirects have also been maintained.

Knowing this, do you have any other compelling reasons to keep the 
UserCreation and UserRegistry pages out of the Packaging/ hierarchy?  If it 
will make you feel better, we can temporarily override the ACLs to move your 
pages to the permanent locations under Packaging/ and maintain the current 
permissions.  Personally, I'd rather leave the UserRegistry page where it is 
and put the UserCreation page back in Drafts until the ACLs over the rest of 
Packaging/ can be adjusted, but I'm willing to meet you half-way on this and 
assume that the Packaging Committee won't object to that.

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