non fedora-usermgmt user creation

[Enrico Scholz]

Christian.Iseli at licr.org writes:

> I think we are still not talking exactly about the same thing...
>
> Let me try to rephrase:
>  1. there are packages (both in FC and FE) that need to create UIDs
>  2. some admins would like to have those UIDs created in a
>     predictable/defined way
>  3. you propose an add-on/wrapper package that allows to do this, but
>     it is non-transparent: packages that want to use your mechanism
>     must have a Require for fedora-adduser.  Thus the packager makes
>     the decision, not the admin
>  4. when an admin decides to use your mechanism, part of the packages
>     installed will still not be right because all FC and some FE
>     packages do not have the Require mentioned in step 3, and some
>     packagers adamantly refuse to add it
>  5. no consensus is emerging that point 3 is the right thing to do
>
> What I think some other persons and I are proposing is that you change
> the fedora-usermgmt package to be a complete, transparent replacement
> for useradd (shadow-utils package).  That way, when an admin decides
> to install your package, he knows all the packages he later installs
> will obey the policy he decided to apply when he configured the
> necessary bits in your package.  Packagers then no longer need to
> worry whether to Require useradd or fedora-useradd.  I think that
> would make everyone happy... (maybe famous last words too :-) )

Ok, I understand your suggestion so, that:

* 'fedora-usermgmt' gets the following headers:
  |+ Provides: shadow-utils
  |  ...
  |- Requires: shadow-utils
  |+ Requires: /usr/sbin/useradd

* every package which creates users will contain something like
  | Requires(pre): shadow-utils
  | ...
  | %pre
  | if test -x /usr/sbin/fedora-useradd; then
  |    /usr/sbin/fedora-useradd ...
  | else
  |    /usr/sbin/useradd ...
  | fi


I could live with it.



Enrico
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