buildsys-build (Was Re: BuildRequires - flex and bison)

[Ralf Corsepius]

On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 10:11 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, den 17.05.2006, 08:45 +0100 schrieb Paul Howarth:
> > On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 09:27 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> > +1
> > 
> > The new buildsys-build package, which replaces the use of comps groups
> > in the forthcoming version of mock from cvs, still has dependencies on
> > flex and bison and will hence pull them in to the default buildroot.
> > 
> > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-extras-commits/2006-April/msg00850.html
> >
> > Any other packages in the list that shouldn't be?
> 
> /me looks at
> http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/mock/buildsys-build.spec?root=fedora&view=markup
> -- no changes since the import
> 
> Okay, I'd like to propose that we also remove the following packages
> from the list:
> 
> automake15, automake, automake16, automake14, libtool, autoconf
>
> They shouldn't normally be needed for building and there are even some
> people that even say "you shall not use autoconf in spec files -- patch
> the sources instead".
As I am amongst those, I fully agree with your proprosal above.

>  In any case, having them in the default buildroot
> sounds unnecessary to me. Or are there any good reason I'm not aware of?
There are some subtile dependencies between rpm/rpmbuild (read:
packaging bugs in rpmbuild) and some other packages.
One would have to check if these have still exist.

> And I'm wondering why we need those (hints why we might need them
> appreciated):
> 
> openssh-server
> doxygen
> indent
> byacc
> ctags
> gettext
> gdb
> createrepo
> perl-XML-*
Without having checked details, they are all superflous, IMO.

Also cf. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=183872
the responsible persons have preferred to ignore for many weeks.

> And we probably should synchronize it with the list we maintain at 
> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#Exceptions
> For example: python and intltool (probably others) are in the default
> mock install, but not in the list from the wiki. perl on the other hand
> is. Is there a good reason for that behavior?
None that I am aware about. Neither python, perl nor intltool should be
in there, unless they are rpm-required by some other tools.

Ralf