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Re: About missing reviews



On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 12:48:31 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Can (or will) the new shiny package database contain a 'last reviewed'
> field?

Yes, there will be a "reviewed" field, with a date, the ID of the
reviewer and a URL pointing to the review

> We could sort on that and go thru the list from oldest to
> newest.

Yup

> I don't think thats a very good idea personally... If a re-review of a
> package shows problems, why not file them as bugs? The maintainer can
> explain why they might not be real bugs, etc.. also as a bonus this
> could show a package that could be orphaned due to lack of maintainer
> response. 

I tend to like the bugzilla way too.

On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 11:07:41 -0900, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> If you really really want to do this, we should really really take a
> very hard look at toolizing some of the review process, as has been
> mentioned before. The more specific policy items we can script checks
> for the less manpower we will need to burn on re-reviews.  Granted not
> everything that needs to be reviewed can be toolized or scripted, but
> certainly specific policy item that have evolved over time could be,
> like the python-abi defines, or the setting of the Fedora-Extras
> Category in desktop files.

A few tools could help.  I was semi-daydreaming some sort of exploded
review entry in the package database, where each must/should item has
its own entry, date of checking, who did the check, that sort of
thing.  It sounds darn heavy-weight, but on the other hand, new
must/should item could be checked individually when new packaging rules
are devised, and some of them could be checked by tools like you
suggest...

> I believe re-reviews would have value, but without new tools in place
> to script some of the checking  we will continue to be too manpower
> poor for this to be worthwhile compared to other work.

Agreed.

> In the meantime, if a lack of a review trail for fedora.us era
> packages is blocking the ability to spin-up new and interesting
> downstream projects as Jesse suggests, then its worth doing something
> about that now since there is an additional payoff other than general
> cobweb removal.

I did some heavy trimming of my missing_review list, removing packages
appearing before July 2005, and also attempting to remove packages
resulting from name changes.  I now have this short list of 82 packages
that appear to be recent, but where I can't find the review ticket.  I
already tracked one to a typo in the review ticket summary field.  If a
few kind souls have a little spare time, they might lend a hand to
help further shrink this list.

I guess we'll soon need a lore-master... telling us the story of
packages old and new... sounds like a fitting time of the year to tell
stories that start with "Once upon a time" :-)

Cheers,
					C

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