From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Sat Oct 13 12:10:24 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:10:24 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] The Fedora Fonts SIG is open Message-ID: <1192277424.6996.79.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Dear potential SIG contributor, You're receiving this message because you're subscribed to one of the general relevant Fedora mailing lists, or because our awesome minion-finding powers have detected your interest in fonts and text rendering/layouting in Fedora, EPEL or OLPC?. Last month's consultation showed there was enough possible contributors and needed work to justify creating a Fedora Fonts Special Interest Group. To get the ball rolling I've started seeding a Fonts SIG space in the Fedora wiki: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts Recently, the Fedora infrastructure team created us a mailing list to coordinate SIG activities: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list In addition to human posts I intend to get it CCed on every font-related bug in our bugzilla. That means we have enough infrastructure to open shop, and I hereby declare the Fonts SIG born. If you are interested in the Fonts SIG, please: ? read the wiki, and the proposed Fonts SIG charter, ? subscribe to the mailing list, ? let us know there where you want the SIG to evolve ? and what *you* are ready to contribute to make this evolution happen (in particular only respond to this message on fedora-fonts-list!) I've created the SIG but we can make it live. It's not a tool to implement my personal vision?. It's not some sort of public to-do list either. Stuff will happen because we make it happen. SIG organisation is only there to help implement our wishes; I've sadly no access to magical fairies ready to do the work in our stead. I hope to find many of you on on the Fonts SIG list! Regards, ? ie you already maintain or co-maintain a fonts-related package in Fedora (fonts, major text layouting library, font tool?), or made the mistake to ask about fonts on one of the Fedora lists I read ? Visions are for people standing too long under the sun, and there's been a distinct lack of it here recently -- Nicolas Mailhot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From duffy at redhat.com Mon Oct 15 14:21:40 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:21:40 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] freefont Message-ID: <47137774.2010305@redhat.com> Hey, It seems if I install freefont, it sets itself as the default font system-wide in X & GNOME - it's quite ugly though, and it's thin so it makes my terminal and my messages in thunderbird difficult to read. Is there something with freefont's packaging that sets it to be the default font on install? ~m From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Mon Oct 15 14:46:34 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:46:34 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] freefont Message-ID: <60810.192.54.193.51.1192459594.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le Lun 15 octobre 2007 16:21, M?ir?n Duffy a ?crit : > Hey, Hi M?ir?n, > It seems if I install freefont, it sets itself as the default font > system-wide in X & GNOME - it's quite ugly though, and it's thin so it > makes my terminal and my messages in thunderbird difficult to read. Freefont is not very appreciated by font designers. It was real hard to convince everyone DejaVu was not another Freefont to blacklist in the first years :) > Is there something with freefont's packaging that sets it to be the > default font on install? While I don't like some parts of the Freefont spec it does not include anything fontconfig-related (if you use the official http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=4785 fedora package). Something else has changed your fontconfig priorities, or your fontconfig version dates is inheriting the Debian choice of putting Freefont first (and then installing the font activates the priority) Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot From simos.lists at googlemail.com Mon Oct 15 18:34:52 2007 From: simos.lists at googlemail.com (Simos Xenitellis) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:34:52 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] freefont In-Reply-To: <60810.192.54.193.51.1192459594.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> References: <60810.192.54.193.51.1192459594.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <598e9210710151134w5bbde22cnaba867373d9db770@mail.gmail.com> On 10/15/07, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Le Lun 15 octobre 2007 16:21, M?ir?n Duffy a ?crit : > > Hey, > > Hi M?ir?n, > > > It seems if I install freefont, it sets itself as the default font > > system-wide in X & GNOME - it's quite ugly though, and it's thin so it > > makes my terminal and my messages in thunderbird difficult to read. > > Freefont is not very appreciated by font designers. It was real hard > to convince everyone DejaVu was not another Freefont to blacklist in > the first years :) > > > Is there something with freefont's packaging that sets it to be the > > default font on install? > > While I don't like some parts of the Freefont spec it does not include > anything fontconfig-related (if you use the official > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=4785 fedora > package). > > Something else has changed your fontconfig priorities, or your > fontconfig version dates is inheriting the Debian choice of putting > Freefont first (and then installing the font activates the priority) The default fonts.conf file that comes with the fontconfig package places Freefonts at the bottom of the preference list. You can see the preference list of your system from the file /etc/fonts/font.conf It's the section enclosed in . Before the mentioned change, Freefonts were placed over the CJK fonts. That change about a year ago. Simos From bugzilla at redhat.com Mon Oct 15 21:56:02 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:56:02 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 333201] New: dangling symlinks in openoffice.org-core package Message-ID: Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=333201 Summary: dangling symlinks in openoffice.org-core package Product: Fedora Version: f8test3 Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: openoffice.org AssignedTo: caolanm at redhat.com ReportedBy: chkr at plauener.de QAContact: extras-qa at fedoraproject.org CC: fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com the following command find /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/mimetypes/ -type l -xtype l reveals 24 dangling symlinks in the openoffice.org-core package e.g. ls -la /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/mimetypes/gnome-mime-application-vnd.sun.xml.impress.template.png lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 41 2007-10-14 04:02 /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/mimetypes/gnome-mime-application-vnd.sun.xml.impress.template.png -> openofficeorg23-presentation-template.png but there is no openoffcieorg23-presentation-template.png version: openoffice.org-core-2.3.0-6.1.fc8 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Mon Oct 15 21:57:58 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:57:58 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 333201] dangling symlinks in openoffice.org-core package In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710152157.l9FLvwti008591@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: dangling symlinks in openoffice.org-core package https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=333201 ------- Additional Comments From chkr at plauener.de 2007-10-15 17:57 EST ------- small update: the same problem is also in all mimetypes directories: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/*/mimetypes/ -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Mon Oct 15 22:14:43 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:14:43 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 333201] dangling symlinks in openoffice.org-core package In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710152214.l9FMEhc9010849@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: dangling symlinks in openoffice.org-core package https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=333201 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC|fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com| -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Oct 16 10:41:37 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:41:37 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 317641] Luxi fonts need to be removed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710161041.l9GAfbaG004302@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Luxi fonts need to be removed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=317641 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Oct 16 10:42:13 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:42:13 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 315091] lklug font should be moved to its own package In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710161042.l9GAgDHH004416@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: lklug font should be moved to its own package https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315091 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Oct 16 10:40:14 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:40:14 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 236803] kdebase: Some UTF-8 chars not showing up in konsole In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710161040.l9GAeEj2003998@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: kdebase: Some UTF-8 chars not showing up in konsole https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=236803 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Oct 16 10:42:05 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:42:05 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 315081] hebrew font should be moved to its own package In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710161042.l9GAg5Qo004386@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: hebrew font should be moved to its own package https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315081 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Oct 16 10:40:38 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:40:38 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 252149] Digit Zero (0) does not have dot or slash inside In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710161040.l9GAec2d004175@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Digit Zero (0) does not have dot or slash inside https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=252149 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Oct 16 10:41:30 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:41:30 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 302141] Move /usr/share/fonts/ from fontconfig to filesystem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710161041.l9GAfUnj004260@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Move /usr/share/fonts/ from fontconfig to filesystem https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=302141 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Oct 16 10:41:52 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:41:52 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 315071] arabic fonts should be split out into separately named packages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710161041.l9GAfqhZ004350@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: arabic fonts should be split out into separately named packages https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315071 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Oct 16 10:40:27 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:40:27 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 246654] Some fonts not rendering In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710161040.l9GAeR0A002055@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Some fonts not rendering https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=246654 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Oct 16 10:39:24 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:39:24 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 302151] Tracker bug for font-related problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710161039.l9GAdOaI001555@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Tracker bug for font-related problems Alias: font-problems https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=302151 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Oct 16 10:41:23 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:41:23 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 272521] Handle fonts with many styles gracefully In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710161041.l9GAfMfP002267@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Handle fonts with many styles gracefully Alias: x-fontstyle-support https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=272521 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Oct 16 10:41:07 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:41:07 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 253951] Tracker: fonts in fonts-* should be moved to own packages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710161041.l9GAf7i0002215@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Tracker: fonts in fonts-* should be moved to own packages Alias: GenericFontNames https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=253951 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From es at openoffice.org Tue Oct 16 11:00:30 2007 From: es at openoffice.org (es at openoffice.org) Date: 16 Oct 2007 11:00:30 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Issue 82612] Font ecolier ec.ttf does not work anymore with OO. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071016110030.25343.qmail@openoffice.org> To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=82612 User es changed the following: What |Old value |New value ================================================================================ Assigned to|es |hdu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ever confirmed| |1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Target milestone|--- |OOo 2.4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Additional comments from es at openoffice.org Tue Oct 16 11:00:29 +0000 2007 ------- @HDU: I'll attach a document created in an m216. In this version the fonts still "worked" (meaning: "characters formatted with those font are visible"). While "chicha" says ec_co_pt.ttf is displayed, both are invisible in m230 (tested on Linux). Please have a look. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification From es at openoffice.org Tue Oct 16 11:01:20 2007 From: es at openoffice.org (es at openoffice.org) Date: 16 Oct 2007 11:01:20 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Issue 82612] Font ecolier ec.ttf does not work anymore with OO. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071016110120.25726.qmail@openoffice.org> To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=82612 ------- Additional comments from es at openoffice.org Tue Oct 16 11:01:19 +0000 2007 ------- Created an attachment (id=48920) Bugdoc --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification From es at openoffice.org Tue Oct 16 11:02:48 2007 From: es at openoffice.org (es at openoffice.org) Date: 16 Oct 2007 11:02:48 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Issue 82612] Font ecolier ec.ttf does not work anymore with OO. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071016110248.28647.qmail@openoffice.org> To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=82612 User es changed the following: What |Old value |New value ================================================================================ Keywords| |oooqa, regression -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Additional comments from es at openoffice.org Tue Oct 16 11:02:48 +0000 2007 ------- Set keywords oooqa, regression. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification From hdu at openoffice.org Tue Oct 16 12:35:01 2007 From: hdu at openoffice.org (hdu at openoffice.org) Date: 16 Oct 2007 12:35:01 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Issue 82612] Font ecolier ec.ttf does not work anymore with OO. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071016123501.7082.qmail@openoffice.org> To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=82612 User hdu changed the following: What |Old value |New value ================================================================================ Status|STARTED |RESOLVED -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Resolution| |FIXED -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Additional comments from hdu at openoffice.org Tue Oct 16 12:35:00 +0000 2007 ------- Fixed in CWS vcl83. The freetype call "FT_Select_Charmap(pFace,FT_ENCODING_UNICODE )" fails, probably because the font only has a CMAP subtable 3_1 (unicode encoding on MS platform) and not a CMAP 1_x subtable (unicode encoding on unicode platform). Previously OOo recovered from that, but the fix for issue 78023 caused a regression. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification From bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org Tue Oct 16 20:07:28 2007 From: bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org (bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 12236] Generic aliases are limited in styles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071016200728.5F69A130078@annarchy.freedesktop.org> http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12236 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From duffy at redhat.com Wed Oct 17 14:42:14 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:42:14 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Fwd: Re: Small Fonts in Firefox and Thunderbird] Message-ID: <47161F46.30500@redhat.com> An embedded message was scrubbed... From: John Dennis Subject: Re: Small Fonts in Firefox and Thunderbird Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:48:23 -0400 Size: 4167 URL: From andyrtr at openoffice.org Wed Oct 17 08:31:26 2007 From: andyrtr at openoffice.org (andyrtr at openoffice.org) Date: 17 Oct 2007 08:31:26 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Issue 82612] Font ecolier ec.ttf does not work anymore with OO. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071017083126.22046.qmail@openoffice.org> To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=82612 User andyrtr changed the following: What |Old value |New value ================================================================================ CC|'fedorafonts,nmailhot' |'andyrtr,fedorafonts,nmail | |hot' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 17 21:13:22 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:13:22 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 336731] New: fontconfig-devel.i386 conflicts with fontconfig-devel.x86_64 Message-ID: Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=336731 Summary: fontconfig-devel.i386 conflicts with fontconfig- devel.x86_64 Product: Fedora Version: f7 Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: fontconfig AssignedTo: besfahbo at redhat.com ReportedBy: benjamin at smedbergs.us QAContact: extras-qa at fedoraproject.org CC: fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com Description of problem: The fontconfig-devel.i386 and fontconfig-devel.x86_64 packages cannot be installed at the same time because they ship the arch-independent file /usr/share/doc/fontconfig-devel-2.4.2/fontconfig-devel.txt Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): FC7 How reproducible: yum install fontconfig-devel.x86_64 yum install fontconfig-devel.i386 Actual results: Transaction Check Error: file /usr/share/doc/fontconfig-devel-2.4.2/fontconfig-devel.txt from install of fontconfig-devel-2.4.2-3.fc7 conflicts with file from package fontconfig-devel-2.4.2-3.fc7 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Thu Oct 18 05:07:41 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:07:41 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 315091] lklug font should be moved to its own package In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710180507.l9I57f74020208@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: lklug font should be moved to its own package https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315091 rbhalera at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution| |NEXTRELEASE ------- Additional Comments From rbhalera at redhat.com 2007-10-18 01:07 EST ------- fonts-sinhala is moved to lklug-fonts. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Thu Oct 18 05:07:35 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:07:35 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 315071] arabic fonts should be split out into separately named packages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710180507.l9I57Znb020150@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: arabic fonts should be split out into separately named packages https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315071 rbhalera at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution| |NEXTRELEASE ------- Additional Comments From rbhalera at redhat.com 2007-10-18 01:07 EST ------- fonts-arabic has been moved to kacst-fonts and paktype-fonts. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Thu Oct 18 05:07:42 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:07:42 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 253951] Tracker: fonts in fonts-* should be moved to own packages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710180507.l9I57gBn020233@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Tracker: fonts in fonts-* should be moved to own packages Alias: GenericFontNames https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=253951 Bug 253951 depends on bug 315091, which changed state. Bug 315091 Summary: lklug font should be moved to its own package https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315091 What |Old Value |New Value ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution| |NEXTRELEASE -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Thu Oct 18 05:07:35 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:07:35 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 253951] Tracker: fonts in fonts-* should be moved to own packages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710180507.l9I57ZgW020174@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Tracker: fonts in fonts-* should be moved to own packages Alias: GenericFontNames https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=253951 Bug 253951 depends on bug 315071, which changed state. Bug 315071 Summary: arabic fonts should be split out into separately named packages https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315071 What |Old Value |New Value ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution| |NEXTRELEASE -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Thu Oct 18 05:07:39 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:07:39 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 315081] hebrew font should be moved to its own package In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710180507.l9I57diX022523@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: hebrew font should be moved to its own package https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315081 rbhalera at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution| |NEXTRELEASE ------- Additional Comments From rbhalera at redhat.com 2007-10-18 01:07 EST ------- fonts-hebrew has been moved to culmus-fonts. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Thu Oct 18 05:07:39 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:07:39 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 253951] Tracker: fonts in fonts-* should be moved to own packages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710180507.l9I57dRr022547@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Tracker: fonts in fonts-* should be moved to own packages Alias: GenericFontNames https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=253951 Bug 253951 depends on bug 315081, which changed state. Bug 315081 Summary: hebrew font should be moved to its own package https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315081 What |Old Value |New Value ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution| |NEXTRELEASE -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Thu Oct 18 05:15:40 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:15:40 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 253951] Tracker: fonts in fonts-* should be moved to own packages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710180515.l9I5FegV023811@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Tracker: fonts in fonts-* should be moved to own packages Alias: GenericFontNames https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=253951 petersen at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |MODIFIED ------- Additional Comments From petersen at redhat.com 2007-10-18 01:15 EST ------- Apart from some of the older bitmap fonts (like for ISO-8859-* and KOI8 say) I can't think of any other fonts packages that need renaming. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Thu Oct 18 05:39:13 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:39:13 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 336731] fontconfig-devel.i386 conflicts with fontconfig-devel.x86_64 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710180539.l9I5dD6M024942@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: fontconfig-devel.i386 conflicts with fontconfig-devel.x86_64 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=336731 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC|fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com|besfahbo at redhat.com, | |nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net AssignedTo|besfahbo at redhat.com |katzj at redhat.com Component|fontconfig |yum ------- Additional Comments From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net 2007-10-18 01:39 EST ------- looks like more a tools problem than a package one -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From petersen at redhat.com Fri Oct 19 05:42:02 2007 From: petersen at redhat.com (Jens Petersen) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:42:02 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] Re: The Fedora Fonts SIG is open In-Reply-To: <1192277424.6996.79.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> References: <1192277424.6996.79.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <471843AA.20300@redhat.com> Hi, Sorry for the late followup, finally I got round to writing something. Thanks, Nicolas, for all your work in getting this up and running. :) I feel this SIG is pretty important for the future of Fedora: after all text is still the bread and butter of computing... :-) Nicolas Mailhot ????????: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts : > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list Great start! > In addition to human posts I intend to get it CCed on every font-related > bug in our bugzilla. Ok, as long as this list doesn't just become a bug list I am ok with that. People could also just subscribe to the font-problems bug in bugzilla though? > I've created the SIG but we can make it live. Perhaps we should have a first SIG meeting on IRC before too long? :) > Stuff will happen because we make it happen. SIG organisation is only > there to help implement our wishes; I've sadly no access to magical > fairies ready to do the work in our stead. Some of my plans for F9 include: - lots of comps cleanup: eg finish moving all fonts from @base-x to @fonts and @legacy-fonts - there is a lot of duplication in f8 since the new groups were added a bit late in the cycle - proposal to switch the default font for Japanese to VLGothic-fonts which is a nice new modern Japanese font - hope to get some Thai outline fonts packages reviewed and added - maybe some rationalization of the current fonts-* metapackages - document our all our main current default fonts in the wiki pages Jens From cannewilson at googlemail.com Fri Oct 19 08:13:07 2007 From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:13:07 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] Font design Message-ID: <200710190913.07892.cannewilson@googlemail.com> The reason I got the invitation to the list is because I had commented on the lack of decent free handwriting/script fonts. I have a particular favourite closed-source one, and would like to see something similar in a free font. The problem is that I haven't a clue how to start. Does anyone know of a reference page that would get a complete newbie to font design started? Anne -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From nicolas at spalinger.org Fri Oct 19 09:02:58 2007 From: nicolas at spalinger.org (Nicolas Spalinger) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:02:58 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] Font design In-Reply-To: <200710190913.07892.cannewilson@googlemail.com> References: <200710190913.07892.cannewilson@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <471872C2.90504@spalinger.org> Anne Wilson wrote: > The reason I got the invitation to the list is because I had commented on the > lack of decent free handwriting/script fonts. I have a particular favourite > closed-source one, and would like to see something similar in a free font. > The problem is that I haven't a clue how to start. Does anyone know of a > reference page that would get a complete newbie to font design started? > > Anne I would suggest the OpenFontLibrary (OFLB) wiki: http://openfontlibrary.org/wiki/Knowledge_Resources http://openfontlibrary.org/wiki/Books as well as the fontforge tutorial as a good starting poing: http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/editexample.html And for handwriting/script open fonts, did you come across these two: http://stalefries.googlepages.com/fontsbreip http://perso.orange.fr/jm.douteau/page_ecolier.htm HTH -- Nicolas Spalinger http://scripts.sil.org http://pkg-fonts.alioth.debian.org https://launchpad.net/people/fonts -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From benlaenen at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 11:29:25 2007 From: benlaenen at gmail.com (Ben Laenen) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:29:25 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] Font design In-Reply-To: <200710190913.07892.cannewilson@googlemail.com> References: <200710190913.07892.cannewilson@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <200710191329.26399.benlaenen@gmail.com> On Friday 19 October 2007, Anne Wilson wrote: > The reason I got the invitation to the list is because I had > commented on the lack of decent free handwriting/script fonts. I > have a particular favourite closed-source one, and would like to see > something similar in a free font. The problem is that I haven't a > clue how to start. Does anyone know of a reference page that would > get a complete newbie to font design started? > > Anne Before starting the real work by making such a font, first learn a bit to get familiar with FontForge: that's just learning how to make curves and lines, how to edit the shapes etc. The FontForge pages have an introduction at http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/fontforge-tutorial.pdf or at http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/editexample.html if you prefer html. Try to edit existing fonts, or just look at existing fonts, you'll learn a lot doing just that. Secondly, also before starting with fontforge to create the font: draw up the design you have in mind on paper once (if you have a scanner you could use it afterwards as well as a background image on which you can draw the outlines in FontForge -- draw big enough for that :-) ). If you start with a new design it's quite important to draw it out once so you have a target, and you'll need to redo the same letters a few times probably, which is much easier on paper :-) So, this is in short the first thing you need to do if you have to start from scratch. If you think you're familiar enough with FontForge you can try to start your script font. One advice here: type design and font developing takes a long time, don't get discouraged because it seems to take forever. Certainly don't force it to go faster (that often results in redoing that glyph anyway). If you encounter problems with FontForge, I invite you to go to our DejaVu Fonts IRC channel (#dejavu on freenode.org). We have used FontForge a lot so we can certainly help you, and we're an active community. You can find us there most of the time (during European daytime, I have no idea if the channel gets used during the night :-) ). Greetings Ben From cannewilson at googlemail.com Fri Oct 19 11:36:49 2007 From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:36:49 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] Font design In-Reply-To: <471872C2.90504@spalinger.org> References: <200710190913.07892.cannewilson@googlemail.com> <471872C2.90504@spalinger.org> Message-ID: <200710191236.49900.cannewilson@googlemail.com> On Friday 19 Oct 2007, Nicolas Spalinger wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > The reason I got the invitation to the list is because I had commented on > > the lack of decent free handwriting/script fonts. I have a particular > > favourite closed-source one, and would like to see something similar in a > > free font. The problem is that I haven't a clue how to start. Does > > anyone know of a reference page that would get a complete newbie to font > > design started? > > > > Anne > > I would suggest the OpenFontLibrary (OFLB) wiki: > http://openfontlibrary.org/wiki/Knowledge_Resources > http://openfontlibrary.org/wiki/Books > > as well as the fontforge tutorial as a good starting poing: > http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/editexample.html > Thanks. I'll look at them. > And for handwriting/script open fonts, did you come across these two: > http://stalefries.googlepages.com/fontsbreip > http://perso.orange.fr/jm.douteau/page_ecolier.htm > I'd hate anyone to think that I wrote like 'stalefries' :-) The second one is quite nice, though. The script-style that I personally like is shown in the attached file. I'd like to see whether I can create something very similar. Anne > > HTH -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: gaze.png Type: image/png Size: 10590 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Fri Oct 19 12:00:59 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:00:59 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] Font design Message-ID: <52749.192.54.193.51.1192795259.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le Ven 19 octobre 2007 13:36, Anne Wilson a ?crit : Hi Anne, > I'd hate anyone to think that I wrote like 'stalefries' :-) The > second one is > quite nice, though. The script-style that I personally like is shown > in the > attached file. I'd like to see whether I can create something very > similar. IMHO you should start by contributing a few glyphs to an existing project like DejaVu, just to get used to font tools and see the challenges you'll face once you'll have more than a few glyphs in your font, and then when you're comfortable as font designer start your own script project. Otherwise you'll just make beginner mistakes. -- Nicolas Mailhot From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Fri Oct 19 12:03:49 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:03:49 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] Font design Message-ID: <3970.192.54.193.51.1192795429.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> And BTW our current wiki has nothing on the subject, but I sure hope we can get some info for would-be font designers in there in the future (contributions welcome ;)) -- Nicolas Mailhot From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Fri Oct 19 12:15:31 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:15:31 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] Re: The Fedora Fonts SIG is open Message-ID: <6681.192.54.193.51.1192796131.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le Ven 19 octobre 2007 07:42, Jens Petersen a ?crit : > Hi, > > Sorry for the late followup, finally I got round to writing something. > > Thanks, Nicolas, for all your work in getting this up and running. :) > I feel this SIG is pretty important for the future of Fedora: after > all text is still the bread and butter of computing... :-) > > Nicolas Mailhot ????????: >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts > : > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list > > Great start! > >> In addition to human posts I intend to get it CCed on every >> font-related >> bug in our bugzilla. > > Ok, as long as this list doesn't just become a bug list I am ok with > that. If we find out bug traffic is downing the list I'll get a separate list created, it's too soon to see what the bug post/human post ratio will be. > People could also just subscribe to the font-problems bug in > bugzilla though? I'm not sure the font-problems bug is workable long term. It requires people manually making their bugs block it. OTOH getting the list CC-ed on problems in -fonts, freetype or fontforge can be automated. My master plan is to get the list recognized at a valid user in all the bug trackers we depend on, and have it CC-ed on problems that concern Fedora fonts & text rendering. It's easier for bugs in fedora bugzilla (just make it auto-CC) and it's easier for bugs in upstream bugzillas (no need to create a sister bug in Fedora bugzilla and make it block the tracker). System needs to be simple or no one will bother. >> I've created the SIG but we can make it live. > > Perhaps we should have a first SIG meeting on IRC before too long? :) We can if people feel like it. I've asked once and no one replied. >> Stuff will happen because we make it happen. SIG organisation is >> only >> there to help implement our wishes; I've sadly no access to magical >> fairies ready to do the work in our stead. > > Some of my plans for F9 include: > > - lots of comps cleanup: eg finish moving all fonts from @base-x to > @fonts and @legacy-fonts - there is a lot of duplication in f8 since > the new groups were added a bit late in the cycle Someone should contribute a wiki page explaining our comps policy for fonts ;) > - proposal to switch the default font for Japanese to VLGothic-fonts > which is a nice new modern Japanese font > > - hope to get some Thai outline fonts packages reviewed and added > > - maybe some rationalization of the current fonts-* metapackages > > - document our all our main current default fonts in the wiki pages Thank you for getting on board! -- Nicolas Mailhot From cannewilson at googlemail.com Fri Oct 19 12:34:06 2007 From: cannewilson at googlemail.com (Anne Wilson) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:34:06 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] Font design In-Reply-To: <52749.192.54.193.51.1192795259.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> References: <52749.192.54.193.51.1192795259.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <200710191334.06931.cannewilson@googlemail.com> On Friday 19 Oct 2007, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le Ven 19 octobre 2007 13:36, Anne Wilson a ?crit : > > Hi Anne, > > > I'd hate anyone to think that I wrote like 'stalefries' :-) The > > second one is > > quite nice, though. The script-style that I personally like is shown > > in the > > attached file. I'd like to see whether I can create something very > > similar. > > IMHO you should start by contributing a few glyphs to an existing > project like DejaVu, just to get used to font tools and see the > challenges you'll face once you'll have more than a few glyphs in your > font, and then when you're comfortable as font designer start your own > script project. Otherwise you'll just make beginner mistakes. I don't expect a fast start, partly because I'm still in the middle of a big video project, and partly because I have no prior knowledge whatsoever :-) However, I will try to make a start soon, no matter how small. I've no doubt that I will be back with many questions. I always am, when I start something new :-) Anne -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From bugzilla at redhat.com Fri Oct 19 21:36:43 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:36:43 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 341151] New: multiarch conflicts in fontconfig Message-ID: Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=341151 Summary: multiarch conflicts in fontconfig Product: Fedora Version: devel Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: medium Component: fontconfig AssignedTo: besfahbo at redhat.com ReportedBy: notting at redhat.com QAContact: extras-qa at fedoraproject.org CC: fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com fontconfig (or one of its subpacakges) has multiarch conflicts when installed for both i386 and x86_64 in the Fedora development tree. For help in resolving them, see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/MultilibTricks. file /usr/share/doc/fontconfig-devel-2.4.2/fontconfig-devel.txt from install of fontconfig-devel-2.4.2-5.fc8 conflicts with file from package fontconfig-devel-2.4.2-5.fc8 (Note that this is an automated bug filing.) It would be nice to have these bugs fixed by the beta of Fedora 9. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Fri Oct 19 21:53:14 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:53:14 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 342821] New: multiarch conflicts in pango Message-ID: Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=342821 Summary: multiarch conflicts in pango Product: Fedora Version: devel Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: medium Component: pango AssignedTo: besfahbo at redhat.com ReportedBy: notting at redhat.com QAContact: extras-qa at fedoraproject.org CC: fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com pango (or one of its subpacakges) has multiarch conflicts when installed for both i386 and x86_64 in the Fedora development tree. For help in resolving them, see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/MultilibTricks. file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/PangoEngineLang.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/PangoEngineShape.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/PangoFcDecoder.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/PangoFcFont.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/PangoFcFontMap.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/PangoMarkupFormat.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/PangoRenderer.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/index-1.10.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/index-1.12.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/index-1.14.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/index-1.16.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/index-1.18.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/index-1.2.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/index-1.4.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/index-1.6.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/index-1.8.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/index-all.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/index-deprecated.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/pango-ATSUI-Fonts.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/pango-Cairo-Rendering.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/pango-Coverage-Maps.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/pango-Engines.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/pango-Fonts.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/pango-FreeType-Fonts-and-Rendering.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/pango-Glyph-Storage.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/pango-Layout-Objects.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/pango-Miscellaneous-Utilities.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/pango-Modules.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/pango-OpenType-Font-Handling.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/pango-Scripts.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/pango-Tab-Stops.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/pango-Text-Attributes.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/pango-Text-Processing.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/pango-Version-Checking.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/pango-Vertical-Text.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/pango-Win32-Fonts-and-Rendering.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/pango-X-Fonts-and-Rendering.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/pango-Xft-Fonts-and-Rendering.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/pango-querymodules.html from install of pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.18.3-1.fc8 (Note that this is an automated bug filing.) It would be nice to have these bugs fixed by the beta of Fedora 9. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Sat Oct 20 08:07:37 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 04:07:37 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 342821] multiarch conflicts in pango In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710200807.l9K87bB5015223@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: multiarch conflicts in pango https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=342821 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC|fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com| -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Sat Oct 20 08:08:12 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 04:08:12 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 341151] multiarch conflicts in fontconfig In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710200808.l9K88Cwc015272@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: multiarch conflicts in fontconfig https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=341151 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC|fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com| -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Sun Oct 21 13:14:13 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 09:14:13 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 235705] Fedora 9 Target tracker bug In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710211314.l9LDEDeI025383@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Fedora 9 Target tracker bug Alias: F9Target https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=235705 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- BugsThisDependsOn| |344451 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Sun Oct 21 13:14:12 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 09:14:12 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 344451] New: Please package fontconfig orth files Message-ID: Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=344451 Summary: Please package fontconfig orth files Product: Fedora Version: devel Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: fontconfig AssignedTo: besfahbo at redhat.com ReportedBy: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net QAContact: extras-qa at fedoraproject.org CC: fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com The DejaVu build process requires access to fontconfig orth files to compute language coverage of the built font Please package these files, either in the fontconfig -devel package or a fontconfig-orth package -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Sun Oct 21 13:15:59 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 09:15:59 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 344451] Please package fontconfig orth files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710211315.l9LDFxU2026648@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Please package fontconfig orth files https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=344451 ------- Additional Comments From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net 2007-10-21 09:15 EST ------- (or fontconfig-lang if you prefer) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Sun Oct 21 21:53:54 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:53:54 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 344451] Please package fontconfig orth files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710212153.l9LLrs2c022346@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Please package fontconfig orth files https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=344451 ------- Additional Comments From besfahbo at redhat.com 2007-10-21 17:53 EST ------- Agreed that would be useful. Pango uses them to build some tables too. I'm ok with just putting them in -devel. We don't need more packages... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Mon Oct 22 04:45:14 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:45:14 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 253951] Tracker: fonts in fonts-* should be moved to own packages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710220445.l9M4jEnb011614@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Tracker: fonts in fonts-* should be moved to own packages Alias: GenericFontNames https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=253951 ------- Additional Comments From besfahbo at redhat.com 2007-10-22 00:45 EST ------- So, do new packages Provide: fonts-arabic and the like? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Mon Oct 22 04:59:51 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:59:51 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 253951] Tracker: fonts in fonts-* should be moved to own packages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710220459.l9M4xpwC013185@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Tracker: fonts in fonts-* should be moved to own packages Alias: GenericFontNames https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=253951 ------- Additional Comments From petersen at redhat.com 2007-10-22 00:59 EST ------- No, because currently the old fonts-* packages are still there as meta-packages which require the new packages, but we may rethink that for F9. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Mon Oct 22 20:43:35 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:43:35 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 253951] Tracker: fonts in fonts-* should be moved to own packages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710222043.l9MKhZMe011285@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Tracker: fonts in fonts-* should be moved to own packages Alias: GenericFontNames https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=253951 ------- Additional Comments From besfahbo at redhat.com 2007-10-22 16:43 EST ------- Fair enough. That may actually be a better solution. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Oct 23 02:27:16 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:27:16 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 253951] Tracker: fonts in fonts-* should be moved to own packages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710230227.l9N2RGbg028430@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Tracker: fonts in fonts-* should be moved to own packages Alias: GenericFontNames https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=253951 petersen at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|MODIFIED |CLOSED Resolution| |RAWHIDE ------- Additional Comments From petersen at redhat.com 2007-10-22 22:27 EST ------- Closing this since it seems to have been basically achieved for F8. :) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Oct 23 02:27:20 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:27:20 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 302151] Tracker bug for font-related problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710230227.l9N2RKJ6028459@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Tracker bug for font-related problems Alias: font-problems https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=302151 Bug 302151 depends on bug 253951, which changed state. Bug 253951 Summary: Tracker: fonts in fonts-* should be moved to own packages https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=253951 What |Old Value |New Value ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |MODIFIED Status|MODIFIED |CLOSED Resolution| |RAWHIDE -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Oct 23 05:06:20 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:06:20 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 331881] [kn_IN]ra+halant+ZWNJ is wrongly rendering In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710230506.l9N56KcV020395@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [kn_IN]ra+halant+ZWNJ is wrongly rendering https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=331881 petersen at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|fonts-indic |lohit-fonts Version|f7 |devel ------- Additional Comments From petersen at redhat.com 2007-10-23 01:06 EST ------- moving to devel and lohit-fonts -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Oct 23 06:33:00 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:33:00 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 175395] Font packages should not be dependent on any other packages. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710230633.l9N6X07n004941@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Font packages should not be dependent on any other packages. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=175395 petersen at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com AssignedTo|tagoh at redhat.com |cchance at redhat.com Status|ASSIGNED |CLOSED QAContact| |extras-qa at fedoraproject.org Resolution| |RAWHIDE ------- Additional Comments From petersen at redhat.com 2007-10-23 02:32 EST ------- This is fixed in the new packages for F8 I believe. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Oct 23 06:50:57 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:50:57 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 221361] [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710230650.l9N6ovto007179@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=221361 petersen at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |lizhang at redhat.com, fedora- | |fonts-list at redhat.com AssignedTo|lizhang at redhat.com |cchance at redhat.com QAContact| |extras-qa at fedoraproject.org -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Oct 23 07:03:44 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:03:44 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 221361] [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710230703.l9N73idj003344@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=221361 petersen at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|cchance at redhat.com |besfahbo at redhat.com Component|cjkunifonts |pango ------- Additional Comments From petersen at redhat.com 2007-10-23 03:03 EST ------- and the spacing in cjkunifonts looks fine to me. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Oct 23 10:17:59 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:17:59 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 346911] New: Port fontconfig to use NSS library for cryptography Message-ID: Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346911 Summary: Port fontconfig to use NSS library for cryptography Product: Fedora Version: devel Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: medium Component: fontconfig AssignedTo: besfahbo at redhat.com ReportedBy: pvrabec at redhat.com QAContact: extras-qa at fedoraproject.org CC: fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com,tmraz at redhat.com fontconfig should be ported to use NSS library for cryptography. See the tracking bug for details and links on how it could be done. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Oct 23 10:43:40 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:43:40 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 346911] Port fontconfig to use NSS library for cryptography In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710231043.l9NAheg6012162@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Port fontconfig to use NSS library for cryptography https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346911 dkopecek at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- OtherBugsDependingO| |333741 nThis| | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla-daemon at bugzilla.gnome.org Tue Oct 23 18:18:03 2007 From: bugzilla-daemon at bugzilla.gnome.org (gnome-control-center (bugzilla.gnome.org)) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:18:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 378338] Deal with X servers which misreport the screen's dimensions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071023181803.A294323F63F@label.gnome.org> If you have any questions why you received this email, please see the text at the end of this email. 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From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Oct 23 18:27:16 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:27:16 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 221361] [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710231827.l9NIRGPv013078@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=221361 besfahbo at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |CLOSED Resolution| |NOTABUG ------- Additional Comments From besfahbo at redhat.com 2007-10-23 14:27 EST ------- fine then. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 24 00:33:51 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:33:51 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 221361] [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710240033.l9O0XpLm007127@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=221361 petersen at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Keywords| |Reopened Resolution|NOTABUG | ------- Additional Comments From petersen at redhat.com 2007-10-23 20:33 EST ------- but still the problem exists I think... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 24 00:35:12 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:35:12 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 221361] [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710240035.l9O0ZCiC007678@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=221361 petersen at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Flag| |needinfo?(phuang at redhat.com) ------- Additional Comments From petersen at redhat.com 2007-10-23 20:35 EST ------- Peng Huang, this is still happening in F8, right? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 24 02:09:00 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:09:00 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 221361] [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710240209.l9O290g2024967@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=221361 phuang at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Flag|needinfo?(phuang at redhat.com)| ------- Additional Comments From phuang at redhat.com 2007-10-23 22:08 EST ------- Right. It still happens in F8. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 24 02:33:54 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:33:54 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 221361] [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710240233.l9O2Xsjv001734@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=221361 ------- Additional Comments From phuang at redhat.com 2007-10-23 22:33 EST ------- I checked the config of firefox. (type "about:config" in URL input area) firefox uses different fonts to render ASCII in different languages. Please check configure values: font.name.monospace.* English is using font Courier. zh-* are using font monospace. Maybe it is the problem. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 24 06:54:19 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 02:54:19 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 221361] [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710240654.l9O6sJYp018492@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=221361 mcepl at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC|mcepl at redhat.com | ------- Additional Comments From mcepl at redhat.com 2007-10-24 02:54 EST ------- What is the output of these two commands: fc-match monospace fc-match Courier ??? For me it is, [matej at viklef ~]$ fc-match monospace DejaVuLGCSansMono.ttf: "DejaVu LGC Sans Mono" "Book" [matej at viklef ~]$ fc-match Courier cour.pfa: "Courier" "Regular" [matej at viklef ~]$ which means that Courier is actually old bitmap ASCII only cour.pfa, whereas monospace is shiny DeJa font (dejavu.sf.net), which doesn't cover any Chinese (see http://dejavu.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/dejavu/trunk/dejavu-fonts/langcover.txt for more info). However, monospace is just fontconfig alias, so it would be interesting to know which actual font it points to on your machine. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 24 07:15:00 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:15:00 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 221361] [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710240715.l9O7F0MO022885@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=221361 ------- Additional Comments From phuang at redhat.com 2007-10-24 03:14 EST ------- $ fc-match monospace DejaVuLGCSansMono.ttf: "DejaVu LGC Sans Mono" "Book" $ fc-match Courier cour.pfa: "Courier" "Regular" It is same in my system. $ LANG=zh_CN fc-match monospace uming.ttf: "AR PL ShanHeiSun Uni" "Regular" LANG=zh_CN fc-match Courier cour.pfa: "Courier" "Regular" But if I use zh_CN locale, the output will be different. BTW, if I change font.name.monospace.zh-CN's value to Courier, ascii text will look good. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 24 08:09:21 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 04:09:21 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 221361] [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710240809.l9O89Lgc022917@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=221361 ------- Additional Comments From petersen at redhat.com 2007-10-24 04:09 EST ------- > BTW, if I change font.name.monospace.zh-CN's value to Courier, ascii text will > look good. I wonder why it only happens for zh though? ja and ko also default to "monospace" and do not have this problem. (As noted elsewhere this problem does not occur in upstream ff3 builds but I have not tested firefox3 builds for Fedora yet.) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Wed Oct 24 11:38:58 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:38:58 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] Fonts spec template validation Message-ID: <8041.192.54.193.51.1193225938.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Hi all, While the current spec template in the Fonts SIG wiki (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/Packaging/SpecTemplate) only documents common Fedora Fonts packaging practices, it's never been formally approved. I intend to submit it to FPC soon. If anyone on the fonts list object to part of this page or wants something clarified, please speak now Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Wed Oct 24 12:17:11 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:17:11 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] Re: [Fedora-packaging] Fonts spec template validation Message-ID: <37213.192.54.193.51.1193228231.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le Mer 24 octobre 2007 13:53, Patrice Dumas a ?crit : > On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 01:38:58PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >> If anyone on the fonts list object to part of this page or wants >> something clarified, please speak now > > Maybe I am demanding too much, but I would hae liked to have > explanation on what to do for all of the different fonts, bitmap > fonts, > truetype fonts and type1 fonts (latex fonts?). There is nothing about > /etc/X11/fontpath.d/ > for example. Well nothing stops anyone from pushing a legacy font template through the Fonts SIG later (either by extending this one or by writing another). It's up to the packagers of these legacy fonts to agree in the SIG on a proposal. Right now no one wrote a legacy fonts template, so there's nothing to submit to FPC. Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Wed Oct 24 15:41:13 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:41:13 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] Re: fontsize in 7.92 Message-ID: <29252.192.54.193.51.1193240473.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le Mer 24 octobre 2007 16:27, Matthew Saltzman a ?crit : > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 09:22 +0200, Christoph H?ger wrote: >> Please don't misunderstand me, I did not mean "too hard to do ist >> for >> "normal users". I just meant that it is not comfortable to change >> each >> font one by one if the target is to "just get the desktop fonts >> smaller >> (and keep the current ratio)", not that it should not be possible to >> change each font size individually. > > Ah, OK. I apologize for speaking sharply. > > But still, small/normal or small/medium/large is too limiting. I > still > want the range of point sizes (and I want them to mean real points!). > I > usually do set all my fonts to one size, but I would still advocate an > advanced setting that allows hard-core customizers to change sizes for > individual fonts if they want. If you want your opinion to be heard by GNOME developers, you have to comment on aforementioned GNOME bug If you want to discuss font or text rendering choices in Fedora, please use the fonts list Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 24 23:39:20 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:39:20 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 221361] [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710242339.l9ONdKei008626@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=221361 ------- Additional Comments From besfahbo at redhat.com 2007-10-24 19:39 EST ------- Why do you guys even have cour.pfa? What package does it come from? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Thu Oct 25 00:13:25 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:13:25 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 221361] [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710250013.l9P0DPF4013385@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [pango] ascii text space too narrow for Chinese encodings https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=221361 ------- Additional Comments From petersen at redhat.com 2007-10-24 20:13 EST ------- (In reply to comment #15) > Why do you guys even have cour.pfa? What package does it come from? I was wondering a bit too about it. It is from xorg-x11-fonts-Type1. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From petersen at redhat.com Thu Oct 25 01:00:11 2007 From: petersen at redhat.com (Jens Petersen) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:00:11 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] Re: [Fedora-packaging] Fonts spec template validation In-Reply-To: <37213.192.54.193.51.1193228231.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> References: <37213.192.54.193.51.1193228231.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <471FEA9B.6060206@redhat.com> Nicolas Mailhot ????????: > Well nothing stops anyone from pushing a legacy font template through > the Fonts SIG later (either by extending this one or by writing > another). It's up to the packagers of these legacy fonts to agree in > the SIG on a proposal. Right now no one wrote a legacy fonts template, > so there's nothing to submit to FPC. True. A few legacy fonts went into Fedora recently: baekmuk-fonts-bdf, taipei-fonts, wqy-unibit-fonts, and a couple of Japanese bitmaps too. Some of them might be helpful starting points for a template. Jens From petersen at redhat.com Thu Oct 25 01:09:15 2007 From: petersen at redhat.com (Jens Petersen) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:09:15 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] default Arabic font for F9? Message-ID: <471FECBB.9070101@redhat.com> Now that comps-f9.xml.in is available I thought I would bring this up early. Are we going to change the default Arabic font for F9, to dejavu-fonts? We could try it anyway in rawhide and see how it goes? Jens From bugzilla at redhat.com Thu Oct 25 01:14:05 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:14:05 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 235705] Fedora 9 Target tracker bug In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710250114.l9P1E5bn028287@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Fedora 9 Target tracker bug Alias: F9Target https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=235705 petersen at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- BugsThisDependsOn| |351571 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Thu Oct 25 01:14:04 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:14:04 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 351571] New: need a fonts-assamese meta package Message-ID: Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=351571 Summary: need a fonts-assamese meta package Product: Fedora Version: devel Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: fonts-indic AssignedTo: rbhalera at redhat.com ReportedBy: petersen at redhat.com QAContact: extras-qa at fedoraproject.org CC: eng-i18n-bugs at redhat.com,fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com Description of problem: The Assamese package group currently uses fonts-bengali as a metapackage but it would get removed if Bengali support it uninstalled. There should be a separate meta-package for Assamese which requires lohit-fonts-bengali. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Thu Oct 25 01:30:27 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:30:27 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 253951] Tracker: fonts in fonts-* should be moved to own packages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710250130.l9P1UREu024130@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Tracker: fonts in fonts-* should be moved to own packages Alias: GenericFontNames https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=253951 Bug 253951 depends on bug 253149, which changed state. Bug 253149 Summary: move fonts to sazanami-fonts and other packages https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=253149 What |Old Value |New Value ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|RAWHIDE | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Thu Oct 25 01:59:15 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:59:15 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 221361] [pango] ascii text space and punctuation is narrow for CJK In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710250159.l9P1xFaT002094@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [pango] ascii text space and punctuation is narrow for CJK https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=221361 petersen at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|[pango] ascii text space too|[pango] ascii text space and |narrow for Chinese encodings|punctuation is narrow for | |CJK ------- Additional Comments From petersen at redhat.com 2007-10-24 21:59 EST ------- After removing xorg-x11-fonts-Type1, "LANG=zh fc-match Courier" give the Chinese font, but firefox still seems to do the wrong thing. Looking closer actually at the ja case I notice now that it is actually also using a different font (different width glyphs) for space and punctuation under Japanese. So actually the issue is not specific to Chinese. BTW xorg-x11-fonts-Type1 is a mandatory package in the @base-x package group in comps. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From petersen at redhat.com Thu Oct 25 02:17:30 2007 From: petersen at redhat.com (Jens Petersen) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:17:30 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] Fonts spec template validation In-Reply-To: <8041.192.54.193.51.1193225938.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> References: <8041.192.54.193.51.1193225938.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <471FFCBA.3070801@redhat.com> Nicolas Mailhot ????????: > While the current spec template in the Fonts SIG wiki > (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/Packaging/SpecTemplate) only > documents common Fedora Fonts packaging practices, it's never been > formally approved. Just a minor quibble, but I would rather %fontdir and %fontconfdir do not end in '/'. One thing that is missing currently is the use of mkfontdir and ttmkfdir (or mkfontscale) to generate fonts.dir and fonts.scale even for truetype fonts. When we split out various CJK fonts from the fonts-* packages for F8 we moved that from %post to %install and keep fonts from different packages in separate directories. See for example sazanami-fonts. Jens From bugzilla at redhat.com Thu Oct 25 03:13:39 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:13:39 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 351571] need fonts-{assamese, marathi, nepali, urdu} metapackages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710250313.l9P3DdbN014602@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: need fonts-{assamese,marathi,nepali,urdu} metapackages https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=351571 petersen at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|need a fonts-assamese meta |need fonts- |package |{assamese,marathi,nepali,urd | |u} metapackages ------- Additional Comments From petersen at redhat.com 2007-10-24 23:13 EST ------- same problem for Marathi, Nepali and Urdu -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Thu Oct 25 03:33:33 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:33:33 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 351571] need fonts-{assamese, marathi, nepali, urdu} metapackages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710250333.l9P3XX4D011163@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: need fonts-{assamese,marathi,nepali,urdu} metapackages https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=351571 pnemade at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |pnemade at redhat.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Thu Oct 25 04:38:12 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:38:12 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 351571] need fonts-{assamese, marathi, nepali, urdu} metapackages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710250438.l9P4cCg1025085@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: need fonts-{assamese,marathi,nepali,urdu} metapackages https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=351571 ------- Additional Comments From rbhalera at redhat.com 2007-10-25 00:38 EST ------- Should we also consider adding lohit-fonts-{assamese, marathi, nepali, urdu}? This may help in maintaining language specific features of the fonts. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Thu Oct 25 07:12:04 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 03:12:04 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 351571] need fonts-{assamese, marathi, nepali, urdu} metapackages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710250712.l9P7C4PE007031@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: need fonts-{assamese,marathi,nepali,urdu} metapackages https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=351571 ------- Additional Comments From petersen at redhat.com 2007-10-25 03:12 EST ------- (In reply to comment #2) > Should we also consider adding lohit-fonts-{assamese, marathi, nepali, urdu}? > This may help in maintaining language specific features of the fonts. I think better to wait until there are some actual differences in the fonts. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From petersen at redhat.com Thu Oct 25 07:51:31 2007 From: petersen at redhat.com (Jens Petersen) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:51:31 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] Re: The Fedora Fonts SIG is open In-Reply-To: <471843AA.20300@redhat.com> References: <1192277424.6996.79.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <471843AA.20300@redhat.com> Message-ID: <47204B03.1080505@redhat.com> Jens Petersen wrote: > [Re]moving all fonts from @base-x to @fonts and @legacy-fonts Done for default and optional fonts. Probably need to talk to the X Team first before moving the mandatory fonts from @base-x. > - proposal to switch the default font for Japanese to VLGothic-fonts > which is a nice new modern Japanese font This is also done now for f9 comps. fonts-japanese still needs to be updated. Jens From bugzilla at redhat.com Thu Oct 25 14:59:22 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:59:22 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 346911] Port fontconfig to use NSS library for cryptography In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710251459.l9PExMZE024399@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Port fontconfig to use NSS library for cryptography https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346911 ------- Additional Comments From besfahbo at redhat.com 2007-10-25 10:59 EST ------- Upstreamed, but not closing. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12929 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Thu Oct 25 17:01:56 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:01:56 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 351571] need fonts-{assamese, marathi, nepali, urdu} metapackages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710251701.l9PH1uqD009742@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: need fonts-{assamese,marathi,nepali,urdu} metapackages https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=351571 ------- Additional Comments From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net 2007-10-25 13:01 EST ------- Why do you need all those metapackages? Fedora usual policy is to avoid metapackages, package grouping should be done via comps group I could understand creating some short-lived metapackages to ease transition from the old fonts-*** rpms, but not going metapackage as a long-term solution -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Thu Oct 25 17:20:36 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:20:36 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] default Arabic font for F9? In-Reply-To: <471FECBB.9070101@redhat.com> References: <471FECBB.9070101@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1193332837.23810.1.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le jeudi 25 octobre 2007 ? 11:09 +1000, Jens Petersen a ?crit : > Now that comps-f9.xml.in is available I thought I would bring this up > early. Are we going to change the default Arabic font for F9, to > dejavu-fonts? We could try it anyway in rawhide and see how it goes? This is the plan, but upstream is late in merging farsi. We may make it the default even if farsi is not merged, but that needs to be discussed. IMHO we should take F9T1 as deadline to decide on this. -- Nicolas Mailhot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From bugzilla at redhat.com Thu Oct 25 17:26:10 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:26:10 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 351571] need fonts-{assamese, marathi, nepali, urdu} metapackages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710251726.l9PHQAcU018831@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: need fonts-{assamese,marathi,nepali,urdu} metapackages https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=351571 ------- Additional Comments From panemade at gmail.com 2007-10-25 13:26 EST ------- Metapackages got created to install all fonts for a particular language. Suppose a user want to check/test how all available fonts looks for any language(say hindi) then he just need to use yum install fonts-hindi this will pull all fonts rpms available for Hindi language. I think that may take less lines in comps file instead to add all fonts rpms :) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Thu Oct 25 17:37:21 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:37:21 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] Fonts spec template validation In-Reply-To: <471FFCBA.3070801@redhat.com> References: <8041.192.54.193.51.1193225938.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <471FFCBA.3070801@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1193333841.24738.8.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le jeudi 25 octobre 2007 ? 12:17 +1000, Jens Petersen a ?crit : > Nicolas Mailhot ????????: > > While the current spec template in the Fonts SIG wiki > > (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/Packaging/SpecTemplate) only > > documents common Fedora Fonts packaging practices, it's never been > > formally approved. > > Just a minor quibble, but I would rather %fontdir and %fontconfdir do > not end in '/'. I have no strong feelings one way or another, existing rpm directoy macros are somewhat unconsistent on this (buildroot is /-terminated, other not), I've already changed it both ways several times, it's not problem to change it again. > One thing that is missing currently is the use of mkfontdir and ttmkfdir > (or mkfontscale) to generate fonts.dir and fonts.scale even for truetype > fonts. When we split out various CJK fonts from the fonts-* packages > for F8 we moved that from %post to %install and keep fonts from > different packages in separate directories. See for example sazanami-fonts. I'll let packagers of those examples to complete the template. As long as core fonts stuff is clearly marked optional (with a specific colour and text explaining it should not be added to new font packages). When Vera was added to Fedora years ago the xorg maintainer and desktop team strongly objected to adding new fonts to the legacy subsystem, and my own experience is they were right ? fonts that have been used a long time with the core fonts backend tend to work, new fonts tend to expose many bugs no one wants to fix anymore. Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From bugzilla at redhat.com Thu Oct 25 17:45:36 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:45:36 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 351571] need fonts-{assamese, marathi, nepali, urdu} metapackages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710251745.l9PHjabO018290@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: need fonts-{assamese,marathi,nepali,urdu} metapackages https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=351571 ------- Additional Comments From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net 2007-10-25 13:45 EST ------- Thats a very bad reason. The correct Fedora package grouping solution is comps groups, the Fedora package management tools understand comps groups, our people that work on package management target comps groups, metapackages sort of work but will never work completely because they're not supposed to be used. If you push metapackages just to avoid the "hassle" of the official Fedora package grouping method you're doing everyone a huge disservice. If you don't believe me ask FPC or Fesco for an official ruling. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org Thu Oct 25 21:49:48 2007 From: bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org (bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:49:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 12236] Generic aliases are limited in styles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071025214948.967C513000B@annarchy.freedesktop.org> http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12236 keithp at keithp.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |NOTOURBUG ------- Comment #1 from keithp at keithp.com 2007-10-25 14:54 PST ------- This is not a fontconfig bug; the gnome font selector would have to convert the alias into a family name and then list that family to detect which styles were available. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Fri Oct 26 00:14:23 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:14:23 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 351571] need fonts-{assamese, marathi, nepali, urdu} metapackages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710260014.l9Q0EN9G016230@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: need fonts-{assamese,marathi,nepali,urdu} metapackages https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=351571 ------- Additional Comments From petersen at redhat.com 2007-10-25 20:14 EST ------- (In reply to comment #4) > Why do you need all those metapackages? Well the problem is the comps package mechanism is still pretty. I think Jeremy Katz wants to think about ways to improve the situation but that basically requires major changes in comps (yum). Basically the current problem is that language groups list their fonts requirements and some languages require the same fonts. Then if one of the language groups is uninstalled the shared font with the other language will get removed. Metapackages at least provides a mechanism to workaround this problem. But now that we install most fonts by default anyway perhaps fonts don't need to be listed in language groups as much as before. We also introduced them for scim for the same reason. Again a possible solution may be to install scim support by default again after all, like we in F7. > Fedora usual policy is to avoid metapackages, > package grouping should be done via comps group Actually metapackages are becoming more common in Fedora and I don't really understand the aversion to them: in some cases they seem to be very useful. > I could understand creating some short-lived metapackages to ease transition > from the old fonts-*** rpms, but not going metapackage as a long-term solution My long term plan is also to try to get rid of the metapackages, but not before there is something better that can replace them. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Fri Oct 26 00:54:57 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:54:57 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 302141] Move /usr/share/fonts/ from fontconfig to filesystem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710260054.l9Q0svX7023439@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Move /usr/share/fonts/ from fontconfig to filesystem https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=302141 besfahbo at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution| |NEXTRELEASE -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Fri Oct 26 00:54:58 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:54:58 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 302151] Tracker bug for font-related problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710260054.l9Q0swiE023483@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Tracker bug for font-related problems Alias: font-problems https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=302151 Bug 302151 depends on bug 302141, which changed state. Bug 302141 Summary: Move /usr/share/fonts/ from fontconfig to filesystem https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=302141 What |Old Value |New Value ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution| |NEXTRELEASE -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Fri Oct 26 01:03:04 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:03:04 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 302151] Tracker bug for font-related problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710260103.l9Q134C2026627@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Tracker bug for font-related problems Alias: font-problems https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=302151 Bug 302151 depends on bug 302141, which changed state. Bug 302141 Summary: Move /usr/share/fonts/ from fontconfig to filesystem https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=302141 What |Old Value |New Value ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|NEXTRELEASE | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Fri Oct 26 01:03:04 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:03:04 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 302141] Move /usr/share/fonts/ from fontconfig to filesystem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710260103.l9Q134lt026603@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Move /usr/share/fonts/ from fontconfig to filesystem https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=302141 besfahbo at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Keywords| |Reopened Resolution|NEXTRELEASE | ------- Additional Comments From besfahbo at redhat.com 2007-10-25 21:03 EST ------- My bad. filesystem still doesn't own /usr/share/fonts. Also, filesystem creates /etc/fonts/conf.d, but doesn't own it in %files. Is that intentional? If not, probably other entries are missing too. Please reassign back to fontconfig after resolving. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Fri Oct 26 01:05:53 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:05:53 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 346911] Port fontconfig to use NSS library for cryptography In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710260105.l9Q15rNo027179@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Port fontconfig to use NSS library for cryptography https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346911 ------- Additional Comments From besfahbo at redhat.com 2007-10-25 21:05 EST ------- Fontconfig only has an internal implementation of MD5. Does that count? Upstream is happy with it and closed WONTFIX. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Fri Oct 26 01:23:06 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:23:06 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 346911] Port fontconfig to use NSS library for cryptography In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710260123.l9Q1N6Ve029695@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Port fontconfig to use NSS library for cryptography https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346911 besfahbo at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution| |NOTABUG ------- Additional Comments From besfahbo at redhat.com 2007-10-25 21:23 EST ------- Reopen if you know what it should be using NSS for. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From petersen at redhat.com Fri Oct 26 01:58:06 2007 From: petersen at redhat.com (Jens Petersen) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:58:06 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] default Arabic font for F9? In-Reply-To: <1193332837.23810.1.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> References: <471FECBB.9070101@redhat.com> <1193332837.23810.1.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <472149AE.6070706@redhat.com> Nicolas Mailhot ????????: > This is the plan, but upstream is late in merging farsi. We may make it > the default even if farsi is not merged, but that needs to be discussed. Ok. You mean the default font for Fedora, right, not just Arabic? > IMHO we should take F9T1 as deadline to decide on this. For the final decision, sure. But I think we should make the changes in comps for testing long before that so that there is sufficient time to evaluate it. Personally I would be tempted to just go ahead and do it early and see what happens. I guess dejavu-lgc-fonts users should not notice any difference, right? Jens From bugzilla at redhat.com Fri Oct 26 03:06:26 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:06:26 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 344451] Please package fontconfig orth files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710260306.l9Q36QCJ014356@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Please package fontconfig orth files https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=344451 ------- Additional Comments From besfahbo at redhat.com 2007-10-25 23:06 EST ------- Going to package, and requested API for them, so in the future we can drop orth files again: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12939 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Fri Oct 26 04:19:32 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 00:19:32 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 344451] Please package fontconfig orth files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710260419.l9Q4JWAH024744@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Please package fontconfig orth files https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=344451 ------- Additional Comments From besfahbo at redhat.com 2007-10-26 00:19 EST ------- Now I wonder if we should just wait for that API instead of packaging orth files and then removing them at some point, possibly making people scream. Anyway, Nicolas, please attach your patch here. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Fri Oct 26 07:29:01 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 03:29:01 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 344451] Please package fontconfig orth files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710260729.l9Q7T16k020478@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Please package fontconfig orth files https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=344451 besfahbo at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution| |WONTFIX ------- Additional Comments From besfahbo at redhat.com 2007-10-26 03:29 EST ------- Ok, patched fontconfig to add FcGetLangs() and FcCharSetForLang(). No need to parse orth files anymore. Ported pango to use it: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/pango/trunk/tools/gen-script-for-lang-new.c?view=markup Hopefully will make it into fontconfig-2.5. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Fri Oct 26 07:44:36 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:44:36 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] default Arabic font for F9? Message-ID: <57125.192.54.193.51.1193384676.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le Ven 26 octobre 2007 03:58, Jens Petersen a ?crit : > Nicolas Mailhot ????????: >> This is the plan, but upstream is late in merging farsi. We may make >> it >> the default even if farsi is not merged, but that needs to be >> discussed. > > Ok. You mean the default font for Fedora, right, not just Arabic? It's pretty much the same thing as the blocker to make the non-lgc DejaVu a distribution default was arabic/farsi conflicts last time the problem was raised. >> IMHO we should take F9T1 as deadline to decide on this. > > For the final decision, sure. But I think we should make the changes > in > comps for testing long before that so that there is sufficient time to > evaluate it. Personally I would be tempted to just go ahead and do it > early and see what happens. I guess dejavu-lgc-fonts users should not > notice any difference, right? LGC users won't notice the difference and lgc will still be available in the repo for people that do not like a dejavu-full default and prefer lgc only. I suppose you can make changes in F9 comps now. It's not as if anyone but hardcore rawhide users will see them before test1 (and if we finally decide not to do it it can be undone later easily) Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot From bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org Fri Oct 26 07:57:45 2007 From: bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org (bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 00:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 12939] API for querying languages and their charsets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071026075746.0D12513000A@annarchy.freedesktop.org> http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12939 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com ------- Comment #2 from nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net 2007-10-26 01:02 PST ------- Another non-fontconfig user of orth files is dejavu (used to generate a script coverage table at build-time so users and distribution packagers know what locales to check before deploying a new dejavu version). That's a common need when a new font is proposed for inclusion in a distro, it's a shame only dejavu does it. It's probably cleaner to just add a small tool that takes a ttf/otf file as input and outputs its script coverage table to fontconfig rather than expose the orth files themselves tough. The current dejavu method is a rather ugly orth-parsing perl script -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Fri Oct 26 08:10:02 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 04:10:02 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 344451] Please package fontconfig orth files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710260810.l9Q8A21v028728@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Please package fontconfig orth files https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=344451 ------- Additional Comments From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net 2007-10-26 04:10 EST ------- Created an attachment (id=238541) --> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=238541&action=view) Quick & dirty packaging patch Proposed patch. didn't have the time to split it The pango fix while nice is not helping my use case at all :( -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Fri Oct 26 08:25:24 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 04:25:24 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 346911] Port fontconfig to use NSS library for cryptography In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710260825.l9Q8PO0o031277@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Port fontconfig to use NSS library for cryptography https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346911 ------- Additional Comments From tmraz at redhat.com 2007-10-26 04:25 EST ------- What is the internal MD5 hash used for? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Fri Oct 26 08:25:54 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 04:25:54 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 351571] need fonts-{assamese, marathi, nepali, urdu} metapackages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710260825.l9Q8Ps2n031334@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: need fonts-{assamese,marathi,nepali,urdu} metapackages https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=351571 ------- Additional Comments From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net 2007-10-26 04:25 EST ------- (In reply to comment #7) > (In reply to comment #4) > > Why do you need all those metapackages? > > Well the problem is the comps package mechanism is still pretty. > I think Jeremy Katz wants to think about ways to improve the situation > but that basically requires major changes in comps (yum). There is always room for improvement in our packaging tools, that's not new > Basically the current problem is that language groups list their fonts > requirements and some languages require the same fonts. Then if one > of the language groups is uninstalled the shared font with the other > language will get removed. This is not a common case - most often users install the language groups sets they need and never remove them > Metapackages at least provides a mechanism > to workaround this problem. And make it impossible for a user to uninstall part of the metapackage set, and creep in other package deps, and generally speaking kill most of the benefits of splitting packages. Additionaly metapackages block spins from making different grouping choices based on their target audience and space constraints. > But now that we install most fonts by default anyway perhaps fonts > don't need to be listed in language groups as much as before. Please forget this argument. Even if metapackages stay you'll have to document fonts in comps properly because defaults are only defaults, users are allowed to make other choices, and if you don't have fine-grained package lists in comps they can't do them in our GUI tools. > We also introduced them for scim for the same reason. > Again a possible solution may be to install scim support by default > again after all, like we in F7. > > > Fedora usual policy is to avoid metapackages, > > package grouping should be done via comps group > > Actually metapackages are becoming more common in Fedora > and I don't really understand the aversion to them: in some > cases they seem to be very useful. Metapackages are quick hacks that can help doing short-term workarounds, they have lots of drawbacks and are an absolute pain to get rid of later. I though that was well understood but since it's not the case I'll ask FPC to make official guidelines on their use. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Fri Oct 26 12:17:40 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:17:40 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 353941] New: broken URL in knm_new-fonts package description Message-ID: Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=353941 Summary: broken URL in knm_new-fonts package description Product: Fedora Version: devel Platform: All URL: http://www.din.or.jp/~storm/fonts/ OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: knm_new-fonts AssignedTo: tagoh at redhat.com ReportedBy: petrosyan at gmail.com QAContact: extras-qa at fedoraproject.org CC: fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com Description of problem: broken URL in knm_new-fonts package description URL : http://www.din.or.jp/~storm/fonts/ Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): knm_new-fonts-1.1-2.fc8 Steps to Reproduce: rpm -qi knm_new-fonts -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Fri Oct 26 12:28:58 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:28:58 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 353941] broken URL in knm_new-fonts package description In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710261228.l9QCSw1I004795@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: broken URL in knm_new-fonts package description https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=353941 ------- Additional Comments From pnemade at redhat.com 2007-10-26 08:28 EST ------- If you look at SPEC you can see its already written same thing there by package maintainer => ## the following upstream URL is a dead link anymore. URL: http://www.din.or.jp/~storm/fonts/ Source0: http://www.din.or.jp/~storm/fonts/knm_new.tar.gz -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org Fri Oct 26 17:04:57 2007 From: bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org (bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:04:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 12939] API for querying languages and their charsets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071026170458.069F613000C@annarchy.freedesktop.org> http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12939 ------- Comment #3 from keithp at keithp.com 2007-10-26 10:09 PST ------- uh, you can already get fontconfig to generate coverage information for a font file; just scan it and look at the resulting pattern. Seems like dejavu could create a fairly simple program to do this. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org Fri Oct 26 18:01:09 2007 From: bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org (bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 12939] API for querying languages and their charsets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071026180110.0FF7013000B@annarchy.freedesktop.org> http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12939 ------- Comment #4 from nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net 2007-10-26 11:05 PST ------- Well, if the dejavu folks where code-inclined, they'd be rewriting fontforge, not creating fonts The aforementioned table is this one http://dejavu.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/dejavu/trunk/dejavu-fonts/langcover.txt?revision=1922&view=markup -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla-daemon at bugzilla.gnome.org Fri Oct 26 18:20:01 2007 From: bugzilla-daemon at bugzilla.gnome.org (gtk+ (bugzilla.gnome.org)) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:20:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 490609] New: Font selector is limiting styles for default aliases Message-ID: If you have any questions why you received this email, please see the text at the end of this email. Replies to this email are NOT read, please see the text at the end of this email. You can add comments to this bug at: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490609 gtk+ | gtk | Ver: 2.12.x Summary: Font selector is limiting styles for default aliases Product: gtk+ Version: 2.12.x Platform: Other OS/Version: Linux Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: Normal Component: gtk AssignedTo: gtk-bugs at gtk.org ReportedBy: Nicolas.Mailhot at LaPoste.net QAContact: gtk-bugs at gtk.org CC: fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com GNOME version: Unspecified GNOME milestone: Unspecified More and more fonts are available with more than the 4 legacy regular/italic/bold/bold italic styles (dejavu is such an example) If you make such a font the default "Sans" "Serif" or "Monospace", however, only the 4 legacy styles will be exposed via the "Sans" "Serif" or "Monospace" aliases keithp in https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12236 writes the problem is gtk-side -- See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=email.html for more info about why you received this email, why you can't respond via email, how to stop receiving emails (or reduce the number you receive), and how to contact someone if you are having problems with the system. You can add comments to this bug at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490609. From bugzilla-daemon at bugzilla.gnome.org Fri Oct 26 18:20:55 2007 From: bugzilla-daemon at bugzilla.gnome.org (gtk+ (bugzilla.gnome.org)) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:20:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 490609] Font selector is limiting styles for default aliases In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071026182055.400B123F50D@label.gnome.org> If you have any questions why you received this email, please see the text at the end of this email. Replies to this email are NOT read, please see the text at the end of this email. You can add comments to this bug at: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490609 gtk+ | gtk | Ver: 2.12.x ------- Comment #1 from Nicolas Mailhot 2007-10-26 18:20 UTC ------- quoting keithp "the gnome font selector would have to convert the alias into a family name and then list that family to detect which styles were available." -- See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=email.html for more info about why you received this email, why you can't respond via email, how to stop receiving emails (or reduce the number you receive), and how to contact someone if you are having problems with the system. You can add comments to this bug at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490609. From bugzilla-daemon at bugzilla.gnome.org Fri Oct 26 18:24:15 2007 From: bugzilla-daemon at bugzilla.gnome.org (pango (bugzilla.gnome.org)) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:24:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 95043] GTK doesn't deal well with arbitrarily named font styles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071026182415.30BD823F7A4@label.gnome.org> If you have any questions why you received this email, please see the text at the end of this email. Replies to this email are NOT read, please see the text at the end of this email. You can add comments to this bug at: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95043 pango | general | Ver: 1.1.x Nicolas Mailhot changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |Nicolas.Mailhot at LaPoste.net, | |fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com -- See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=email.html for more info about why you received this email, why you can't respond via email, how to stop receiving emails (or reduce the number you receive), and how to contact someone if you are having problems with the system. You can add comments to this bug at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95043. From bugzilla-daemon at bugzilla.gnome.org Fri Oct 26 18:25:18 2007 From: bugzilla-daemon at bugzilla.gnome.org (gtk+ (bugzilla.gnome.org)) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:25:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 490609] Font selector is limiting styles for default aliases In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071026182518.BFC3223F514@label.gnome.org> If you have any questions why you received this email, please see the text at the end of this email. Replies to this email are NOT read, please see the text at the end of this email. You can add comments to this bug at: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490609 gtk+ | gtk | Ver: 2.12.x Nicolas Mailhot changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |keithp at keithp.com -- See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=email.html for more info about why you received this email, why you can't respond via email, how to stop receiving emails (or reduce the number you receive), and how to contact someone if you are having problems with the system. You can add comments to this bug at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490609. From bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org Fri Oct 26 18:21:22 2007 From: bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org (bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 12236] Generic aliases are limited in styles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071026182122.8AD4913000B@annarchy.freedesktop.org> http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12236 ------- Comment #2 from nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net 2007-10-26 11:25 PST ------- Moved to http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490609 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla-daemon at bugzilla.gnome.org Fri Oct 26 18:32:28 2007 From: bugzilla-daemon at bugzilla.gnome.org (pango (bugzilla.gnome.org)) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:32:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 490609] Font selector is limiting styles for default aliases In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071026183228.1D35B23F514@label.gnome.org> If you have any questions why you received this email, please see the text at the end of this email. Replies to this email are NOT read, please see the text at the end of this email. You can add comments to this bug at: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490609 pango | general | Ver: unspecified Owen Taylor changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |otaylor at redhat.com AssignedTo|gtk-bugs at gtk.org |pango-maint at gnome.bugs Component|gtk |general Product|gtk+ |pango QAContact|gtk-bugs at gtk.org |pango-maint at gnome.bugs Version|2.12.x |unspecified ------- Comment #2 from Owen Taylor 2007-10-26 18:32 UTC ------- I think keithp forgot to mention that the Sans alias is not any particular font, it's a list of fonts. I don't know what you'd want Pango to report, and I doubt it would be meaningful to the user rather than confusing. If the user knows in particular what font they want, and want extended styles from it, they must select that font by name. (This can be done in gnome-font-properties for the default fonts on the system.) If you want to try to come up with a patch, the relevant code is in: pangofc-fontmap.c:pango_fc_family_list_faces() -- See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=email.html for more info about why you received this email, why you can't respond via email, how to stop receiving emails (or reduce the number you receive), and how to contact someone if you are having problems with the system. You can add comments to this bug at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490609. From bugzilla-daemon at bugzilla.gnome.org Fri Oct 26 18:50:55 2007 From: bugzilla-daemon at bugzilla.gnome.org (pango (bugzilla.gnome.org)) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:50:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 490609] Font selector is limiting styles for default aliases In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071026185055.5793923F508@label.gnome.org> If you have any questions why you received this email, please see the text at the end of this email. Replies to this email are NOT read, please see the text at the end of this email. You can add comments to this bug at: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490609 pango | general | Ver: unspecified ------- Comment #3 from Nicolas Mailhot 2007-10-26 18:50 UTC ------- Yes, Sans (and Serif, and Monospace) are a composition of fonts. User-desirable behaviour would be: if sans is composed of foo (A, B styles) and bar (B, C styles) sans should be available in A, B, C styles Without any bias towards bold, italic and bolditalic In particular sans condensed is a very common user need (arial narrow windows-side) and it should be exposed when sans is defined with one or several fonts that have a condensed style -- See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=email.html for more info about why you received this email, why you can't respond via email, how to stop receiving emails (or reduce the number you receive), and how to contact someone if you are having problems with the system. You can add comments to this bug at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490609. From bugzilla-daemon at bugzilla.gnome.org Fri Oct 26 19:00:59 2007 From: bugzilla-daemon at bugzilla.gnome.org (pango (bugzilla.gnome.org)) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:00:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 490609] Font selector is limiting styles for default aliases In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071026190059.3C7D623F507@label.gnome.org> If you have any questions why you received this email, please see the text at the end of this email. Replies to this email are NOT read, please see the text at the end of this email. You can add comments to this bug at: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490609 pango | general | Ver: unspecified ------- Comment #4 from Owen Taylor 2007-10-26 19:00 UTC ------- But imagine that one of the fonts way down in the big list of fonts in Sans, had an unusual style name, maybe, "Very Stretched". Would you really want that to appear when they selected Sans, when sans is Deja Vu? So that implies that maybe it should be just the top font sorted according to the language of the current locale. But the locale doesn't always correspond to the document I'm working on or the text I'm typing. -- See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=email.html for more info about why you received this email, why you can't respond via email, how to stop receiving emails (or reduce the number you receive), and how to contact someone if you are having problems with the system. You can add comments to this bug at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490609. From bugzilla-daemon at bugzilla.gnome.org Fri Oct 26 19:12:11 2007 From: bugzilla-daemon at bugzilla.gnome.org (pango (bugzilla.gnome.org)) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:12:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 490609] Font selector is limiting styles for default aliases In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071026191211.7897523F508@label.gnome.org> If you have any questions why you received this email, please see the text at the end of this email. Replies to this email are NOT read, please see the text at the end of this email. You can add comments to this bug at: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490609 pango | general | Ver: unspecified ------- Comment #5 from Nicolas Mailhot 2007-10-26 19:12 UTC ------- That's a risk I'm willing to take ? the fonts that get in the default aliases are carefully chosen I doubt this case will be hit often. Another possibility since the default aliases are synthetic anyway would be to rewrite the styles to standard names, so styles with the same weight stretch and slant are always aliased the same way -- See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=email.html for more info about why you received this email, why you can't respond via email, how to stop receiving emails (or reduce the number you receive), and how to contact someone if you are having problems with the system. You can add comments to this bug at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490609. From bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org Fri Oct 26 22:10:09 2007 From: bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org (bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 12939] API for querying languages and their charsets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071026221009.3927213000A@annarchy.freedesktop.org> http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12939 ------- Comment #5 from freedesktop at behdad.org 2007-10-26 15:14 PST ------- I try to write fc-scan to do just that... Nicolas, the only thing DejaVu will lose is the language names. They can of course use iso639 package to lookup language names. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Sat Oct 27 00:59:58 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:59:58 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 354991] New: why not dejavu-lgc-fonts 2.20. why redundancy Message-ID: Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=354991 Summary: why not dejavu-lgc-fonts 2.20. why redundancy Product: Fedora Version: devel Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: dejavu-lgc-fonts AssignedTo: besfahbo at redhat.com ReportedBy: apodtele at ucsd.edu QAContact: extras-qa at fedoraproject.org CC: fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com,nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net F8-devel, as it stands now, contains dejavu-lgc-fonts-2.19 dejavu-fonts-2.20 They come from the same source, but the smaller package lags behind. 2.20 was cleaned up, so lgc would be even smaller. Is this a historically high risk update? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla-daemon at bugzilla.gnome.org Sat Oct 27 07:46:10 2007 From: bugzilla-daemon at bugzilla.gnome.org (pango (bugzilla.gnome.org)) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 07:46:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 490609] Font selector is limiting styles for default aliases In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071027074610.252E923F505@label.gnome.org> If you have any questions why you received this email, please see the text at the end of this email. Replies to this email are NOT read, please see the text at the end of this email. You can add comments to this bug at: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490609 pango | general | Ver: unspecified Behdad Esfahbod changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |behdad at gnome.org ------- Comment #6 from Behdad Esfahbod 2007-10-27 07:46 UTC ------- Nicolas, the fonts returned by the default aliases are not carefully chosen. They are a set of carefully chosen (if you want to call it) list followed by all other lists available, only pruned based on their coverage. So, if you have one Arabic font on the system that has a weird style, you get that style listed, but no Latin font even has that style. Owen said it all already. My current feeling is: - If you want DejaVu Sans Condensed, just choose it! - Listing styles from the top matching font, ok maybe. -- See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=email.html for more info about why you received this email, why you can't respond via email, how to stop receiving emails (or reduce the number you receive), and how to contact someone if you are having problems with the system. You can add comments to this bug at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490609. From behdad at behdad.org Sat Oct 27 07:48:30 2007 From: behdad at behdad.org (Behdad Esfahbod) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 03:48:30 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 490609] New: Font selector is limiting styles for default aliases In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1193471310.24439.4.camel@behdad.behdad.org> Hi Nicolas, I'm not sure how others feel, but CC'ing this list on any font-related bug in fedora and GNOME sounds a bit excessive to me. In particular, upstream bugs are just that, upstream. Nothing fedora-specific to them. behdad On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 18:20 +0000, gtk+ (bugzilla.gnome.org) wrote: > If you have any questions why you received this email, please see the text at > the end of this email. Replies to this email are NOT read, please see the text > at the end of this email. You can add comments to this bug at: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490609 > > gtk+ | gtk | Ver: 2.12.x > Summary: Font selector is limiting styles for default aliases > Product: gtk+ > Version: 2.12.x > Platform: Other > OS/Version: Linux > Status: UNCONFIRMED > Severity: normal > Priority: Normal > Component: gtk > AssignedTo: gtk-bugs at gtk.org > ReportedBy: Nicolas.Mailhot at LaPoste.net > QAContact: gtk-bugs at gtk.org > CC: fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com > GNOME version: Unspecified > GNOME milestone: Unspecified > > > More and more fonts are available with more than the 4 legacy > regular/italic/bold/bold italic styles (dejavu is such an example) > > If you make such a font the default "Sans" "Serif" or "Monospace", however, > only the 4 legacy styles will be exposed via the "Sans" "Serif" or > "Monospace" aliases > > keithp in https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12236 writes the problem > is gtk-side > > -- behdad http://behdad.org/ "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 From bugzilla at redhat.com Sat Oct 27 08:25:54 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 04:25:54 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 354991] why not dejavu-lgc-fonts 2.20. why redundancy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710270825.l9R8PshD024289@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: why not dejavu-lgc-fonts 2.20. why redundancy https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=354991 ------- Additional Comments From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net 2007-10-27 04:25 EST ------- dejavu and dejavu-lgc have historically been two different packages built two different ways and maintained by two different persons. So they've not always been in sync. Since both are used as default fonts by a lot of people we've avoided pushing updates after the last test releases, as people complain in a big way if their default font was broken. dejavu and dejavu-lgc entered F8T3 with different levels and therefore will hit F8 with different levels (also most of the fixes in 2.20 where out of the lgc range) For F9 dejavu and dejavu-lgc will be built from the same source package so they'll always be in sync in the future (http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=22419) I'm not sure if we want to take the risk of offering 2.21 as a F8 update when it's released. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org Sat Oct 27 08:42:32 2007 From: bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org (bugzilla-daemon at freedesktop.org) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:42:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 12939] API for querying languages and their charsets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071027084232.49C13130009@annarchy.freedesktop.org> http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12939 ------- Comment #6 from nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net 2007-10-27 01:46 PST ------- Thanks! If we can have a nice standard tool we may even start adding a language coverage table in %doc to other font packages in Fedora. The table is a quick way for users to check their script is covered by foo font (which may or may not be a problem for them) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Sat Oct 27 08:53:45 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:53:45 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 490609] New: Font selector is limiting styles for default aliases In-Reply-To: <1193471310.24439.4.camel@behdad.behdad.org> References: <1193471310.24439.4.camel@behdad.behdad.org> Message-ID: <1193475225.3631.5.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le samedi 27 octobre 2007 ? 03:48 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod a ?crit : > Hi Nicolas, > > I'm not sure how others feel, but CC'ing this list on any font-related > bug in fedora and GNOME sounds a bit excessive to me. I was waiting to see how it shaped out but I sort-of agree we need a separate lists for bug notifications. I'll ask for one now. (ideally we'd only get the first notification on the main list and the rest of the chatter on the other list, but I don't think it's easily doable) > In particular, > upstream bugs are just that, upstream. Nothing fedora-specific to them. But they do hit fedora users too and they're a lot more interesting than the "closed upstream" info we usually get in fedora bugzilla. -- Nicolas Mailhot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From bugzilla at redhat.com Sat Oct 27 17:37:17 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:37:17 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 355271] Liberation fonts as default serif, sans, mono In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710271737.l9RHbH8V012078@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Liberation fonts as default serif, sans, mono https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=355271 rdieter at math.unl.edu changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |rdieter at math.unl.edu, | |fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com AssignedTo|rdieter at math.unl.edu |besfahbo at redhat.com Component|kde-settings |fontconfig Keywords| |FutureFeature Summary|Liberation fonts for |Liberation fonts as default |konqueror if possible |serif, sans, mono ------- Additional Comments From rdieter at math.unl.edu 2007-10-27 13:37 EST ------- We'll continue to use what fedora uses as the default for serif, sans, mono. So, the best approach here, imo, would be to lobby for *those* defaults to be changed. Reassigning -> fontconfig Mind you, there's way more at stake here than just looks e.g. language, character coverage. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Sat Oct 27 22:05:15 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:05:15 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 355271] Liberation fonts as default serif, sans, mono In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710272205.l9RM5FMQ010978@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Liberation fonts as default serif, sans, mono https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=355271 ------- Additional Comments From apodtele at ucsd.edu 2007-10-27 18:05 EST ------- Firefox *already* uses Liberation family displaying www.yahoo.com, www.cnn.com, bbcnews.com, etc., because fontconfig *already* aliases Times New Roman, Arial, and Courier to Liberation family (/etc/fonts/conf.d/30-aliases-fedora.conf). So, I am guessing, konqueror is happy to find sans-serif in css, even though arial is the first choice there. Firefox attempts to find arial first, trusts fontconfig to do so, and succeeds. I don't know which is best approach, but Firefox now looks so much better than konqueror. As far as unicode coverage goes. Liberation family covers 654 glyphs including basic and extended latin, greek, and cyrillic. This is indeed less than ~1500 in standard MS fonts or DejaVu, but pretty good. Maybe, it is too early to switch konqueror to Liberation family by default, but I will keep my own new settings. I hope that the availability of these MS-metric-compatible fonts will be reflected in the release notes of the fedora-kde spin or something. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Sun Oct 28 09:30:02 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:30:02 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 355271] Konqueror should respect fontconfig aliasing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710280930.l9S9U2oC026408@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Konqueror should respect fontconfig aliasing https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=355271 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |besfahbo at redhat.com OtherBugsDependingO| |235705 nThis| | AssignedTo|besfahbo at redhat.com |than at redhat.com Keywords|FutureFeature | Summary|Liberation fonts as default |Konqueror should respect |serif, sans, mono |fontconfig aliasing ------- Additional Comments From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net 2007-10-28 05:30 EST ------- (In reply to comment #2) > > So, I am guessing, konqueror is happy to find sans-serif in css, even though > arial is the first choice there. And thus it's not a problem in distro font choices but a problem in kde code > As far as unicode coverage goes. Liberation family covers 654 glyphs including > basic and extended latin, greek, and cyrillic. This is indeed less than ~1500 > in standard MS fonts or DejaVu, but pretty good. Actually dejavu sans has ~ 5000 glyphs at last count, so there's almost a 10? difference (and the default has been dejavu lgc sans which is smaller but the default is likely to change for F9). Not that's the only or most important factor in the default font choice, but it's one of them. Moreover you can ask for changes/fixes in dejavu and get them a month later, whereas the whole fedora ? red hat ? ascender circuit has till to prove it could treat a single request. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Sun Oct 28 13:57:56 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:57:56 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] Some wiki updates Message-ID: <1193579876.27237.7.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Hi all, I've fleshed out a little the packaging http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/Packaging section of the wiki in preparation of FPC submission. Please check (and complete/correct/yell). It's still lacking any info on legacy X11 core fonts or bitmap packaging, as I don't do them myself, so that's for someone else to document. Also it'd be nice if the people interested in this week's Anne Wilson's font design question (or Anne herself) summed-up the answers and contributed a nice wiki page so future would-be designers don't have to ask. That's something that clearly belongs in the http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/Dev section. Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From bugzilla at redhat.com Sun Oct 28 14:48:01 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:48:01 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 355271] Konqueror should respect fontconfig aliasing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710281448.l9SEm17x029115@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Konqueror should respect fontconfig aliasing https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=355271 apodtele at ucsd.edu changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|fontconfig |kdebase ------- Additional Comments From apodtele at ucsd.edu 2007-10-28 10:48 EST ------- I am leaning to the same conclusion now. This is a konqueror oversight. - A website should know better when it requests Arial. Arial should then give enough unicode coverage and, most likely, so should Liberation Sans. - When a page requests Sans rather than Arial, DejaVu is a better choice. - On an international desktop, DajaVu is better, because of better coverage. So the current configuration is pretty reasonable. Liberation is a substitute for Microsoft fonts and that is it. It is not a universal desktop font. Konqueror is wrong ignoring Arial in favor of Sans-serif. The konqueror behavior is unlikely to change before KDE4. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Mon Oct 29 00:11:12 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:11:12 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 353941] broken URL in knm_new-fonts package description In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710290011.l9T0BCJH031516@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: broken URL in knm_new-fonts package description https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=353941 tagoh at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Flag| |needinfo?(petrosyan at gmail.co | |m) ------- Additional Comments From tagoh at redhat.com 2007-10-28 20:11 EST ------- Yes, that's right. so what's the expected fix here? I don't think I can provide the useful information for that. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Mon Oct 29 01:55:33 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:55:33 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 353941] broken URL in knm_new-fonts package description In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710290155.l9T1tXNI017221@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: broken URL in knm_new-fonts package description https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=353941 ------- Additional Comments From petersen at redhat.com 2007-10-28 21:55 EST ------- Could we use something like: http://ftp.riken.go.jp/pub/misc/Japan/knm/readme http://ftp.riken.go.jp/pub/misc/Japan/knm/knm_new.tar.gz (slightly older) instead? Otherwise maybe it is better just to remove the urls? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Mon Oct 29 02:57:55 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:57:55 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 353941] broken URL in knm_new-fonts package description In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710290257.l9T2vtmH019272@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: broken URL in knm_new-fonts package description https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=353941 ------- Additional Comments From tagoh at redhat.com 2007-10-28 22:57 EST ------- That's one of the mirror site actually. I'm not comfortable with saying the mirror as the master. so removing URLs sounds good to me though. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Mon Oct 29 03:50:07 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:50:07 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 353941] broken URL in knm_new-fonts package description In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710290350.l9T3o7Zt030586@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: broken URL in knm_new-fonts package description https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=353941 petrosyan at gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Flag|needinfo?(petrosyan at gmail.co| |m) | ------- Additional Comments From petrosyan at gmail.com 2007-10-28 23:50 EST ------- I also think that if there is no upstream URL left then URL field should be removed from package description altogether. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Mon Oct 29 04:31:35 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:31:35 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 356181] New: freetype2.pc version error Message-ID: Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=356181 Summary: freetype2.pc version error Product: Fedora Version: f7 Platform: x86_64 OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: low Component: freetype AssignedTo: besfahbo at redhat.com ReportedBy: stevech1097 at yahoo.com.au QAContact: extras-qa at fedoraproject.org CC: fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com >From Bugzilla Helper: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.5) Gecko/20070718 Fedora/2.0.0.5-1.fc7 Firefox/2.0.0.5 Description of problem: The file /usr/lib64/pkgconfig/freetype2.pc has the line "Version: 9.15.3" I believe the version number should be 2.3.4, the same as the rpm package version number. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): freetype-devel-2.3.4-3.fc7 How reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. View the file /usr/lib64/pkgconfig/freetype2.pc 2. 3. Actual Results: Expected Results: Additional info: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From petersen at redhat.com Mon Oct 29 09:17:28 2007 From: petersen at redhat.com (Jens Petersen) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:17:28 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] default Arabic font for F9? In-Reply-To: <57125.192.54.193.51.1193384676.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> References: <57125.192.54.193.51.1193384676.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <4725A528.50804@redhat.com> Nicolas Mailhot ????????: > I suppose you can make changes in F9 comps now. It's not as if anyone > but hardcore rawhide users will see them before test1 (and if we > finally decide not to do it it can be undone later easily) Ok, I have made the changes to comps-f9, so let's see how it goes: it should improve our out-of-the-box coverage. :-) Jens ps Also replaced most of the fonts-* packages in comps-f9 with the new named packages. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Oct 30 02:39:25 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:39:25 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 351571] need fonts-{assamese, marathi, nepali, urdu} metapackages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710300239.l9U2dPlV017756@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: need fonts-{assamese,marathi,nepali,urdu} metapackages https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=351571 petersen at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- OtherBugsDependingO|235705 | nThis| | Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution| |WONTFIX ------- Additional Comments From petersen at redhat.com 2007-10-29 22:39 EST ------- (In reply to comment #8) > > Basically the current problem is that language groups list their fonts > > requirements and some languages require the same fonts. Then if one > > of the language groups is uninstalled the shared font with the other > > language will get removed. > > This is not a common case - most often users install the language groups sets > they need and never remove them Maybe, but it is nevertheless an intrinsic limitation of current package system and something should be done about it IMHO since it is a general problem for packages listed in more than one group. > Even if metapackages stay you'll have to document fonts in comps properly > because defaults are only defaults, users are allowed to make other choices, > and if you don't have fine-grained package lists in > comps they can't do them in our GUI tools. I have replaced most of the metapackages in comps-f9 with the actual fonts lists. > Metapackages are quick hacks that can help doing short-term workarounds, they > have lots of drawbacks and are an absolute pain to get rid of later. I though > that was well understood but since it's not the case I'll ask FPC to make > official guidelines on their use. I don't encourage the widespread use of metapackages, but in certain limited circumstances they can be useful I believe. Having some guidelines about that written down would be nice. Anyway let's work towards dropping the fonts metapackages soon then. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Oct 30 05:15:51 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:15:51 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 222963] When selecting cjk ttf font on xfontsel, FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'encoding...` In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710300515.l9U5Fpf2007303@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: When selecting cjk ttf font on xfontsel, FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'encoding...` https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222963 petersen at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com AssignedTo|lizhang at redhat.com |cchance at redhat.com QAContact| |extras-qa at fedoraproject.org -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Oct 30 11:29:24 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:29:24 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 358001] New: warning of missing pango.modules during yum update - multilib ? Message-ID: Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=358001 Summary: warning of missing pango.modules during yum update - multilib ? Product: Fedora Version: f7 Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: pango AssignedTo: besfahbo at redhat.com ReportedBy: dtimms at iinet.net.au QAContact: extras-qa at fedoraproject.org CC: fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com Description of problem: warning about missing files: cosmetic ? Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): pango-1.16.4-2.fc7 How reproducible: two machines: hp compaq nx6320 notebook intel core duo; asus a7n8x amd athlonXP Steps to Reproduce: 1. yum update Actual results: Cleanup : rpm-python ####################### [72/90] Cleanup : pango ####################### [73/90] /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.67177: line 24: /etc/pango/i686-redhat-linux-gnu/pango.modules: No such file or directory Cleanup : net-snmp-libs ####################### [74/90] Expected results: no such warning. Additional info: Seems to be only spew. Similar but apparently fixed old bug 111511, bug 143952, http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129540 ===== uname -a Linux davidtnotebook 2.6.22.9-91.fc7 #1 SMP Thu Sep 27 23:10:59 EDT 2007 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux ls -lR /etc/pango/ /etc/pango/: total 24 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-10-30 21:24 i386-redhat-linux-gnu -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11446 2007-10-17 06:48 pangox.aliases /etc/pango/i386-redhat-linux-gnu: total 8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3446 2007-10-30 21:24 pango.modules ===== uname -a Linux davidtdesktop 2.6.23-1.fc7 #1 SMP Wed Oct 10 18:39:59 EDT 2007 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux [root at davidtdesktop infrastructure]# ls -lR /etc/pango/ /etc/pango/: total 24 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-10-30 20:22 i386-redhat-linux-gnu -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11446 2007-10-17 06:48 pangox.aliases /etc/pango/i386-redhat-linux-gnu: total 8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3446 2007-10-30 20:22 pango.modules -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 00:56:45 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:56:45 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 353941] broken URL in knm_new-fonts package description In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710310056.l9V0ujfk021716@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: broken URL in knm_new-fonts package description https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=353941 tagoh at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |MODIFIED ------- Additional Comments From tagoh at redhat.com 2007-10-30 20:56 EST ------- Fixed in 1.1-3.fc9. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 02:57:56 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:57:56 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 222963] When selecting cjk ttf font on xfontsel, FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'encoding...` In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710310257.l9V2vuV2017805@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: When selecting cjk ttf font on xfontsel, FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'encoding...` https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222963 cchance at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |eng-i18n-bugs at redhat.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 02:56:04 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:56:04 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 222963] When selecting cjk ttf font on xfontsel, FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'encoding...` In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710310256.l9V2u4cg017557@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: When selecting cjk ttf font on xfontsel, FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'encoding...` https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222963 cchance at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Keywords| |i18n Flag| |needinfo?(sangu at hellocity.ne | |t) ------- Additional Comments From cchance at redhat.com 2007-10-30 22:56 EST ------- Hi sangu, could you please re-test on latest rawhide if the same problem exist? I haven't found any of the mentioned Korean fonts in fonts-korean. BTW FYI, fonts-korean had been updated into a meta-package which automates installation of relevant Korean fonts when installation of fonts-korean is triggered. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 04:17:24 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:17:24 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 222963] When selecting cjk ttf font on xfontsel, FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'encoding...` In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710310417.l9V4HOAN026851@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: When selecting cjk ttf font on xfontsel, FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'encoding...` https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222963 ------- Additional Comments From cchance at redhat.com 2007-10-31 00:17 EST ------- Please kindly provide more detailed bug reproduction procedures. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 04:16:04 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:16:04 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 222963] When selecting cjk ttf font on xfontsel, FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'encoding...` In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710310416.l9V4G45L026759@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: When selecting cjk ttf font on xfontsel, FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'encoding...` https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222963 ------- Additional Comments From cchance at redhat.com 2007-10-31 00:16 EST ------- Created an attachment (id=244071) --> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=244071&action=view) grep results on rawhide -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 04:14:40 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:14:40 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 222963] When selecting cjk ttf font on xfontsel, FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'encoding...` In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710310414.l9V4EebA026253@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: When selecting cjk ttf font on xfontsel, FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'encoding...` https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222963 ------- Additional Comments From cchance at redhat.com 2007-10-31 00:14 EST ------- After installed fonts-korean package by yum: *On F7* $ grep -ir gulim /usr/share/fonts/korean (returned no results) *On Rawhude* $ grep -ir gulim /usr/share/fonts/ (baemuk gulim and gulim family are shown correctly by xfontsel) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 05:29:27 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:29:27 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 222963] When selecting cjk ttf font on xfontsel, FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'encoding...` In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710310529.l9V5TRVo005773@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: When selecting cjk ttf font on xfontsel, FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'encoding...` https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222963 cchance at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|fonts-korean |freetype -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 05:45:07 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:45:07 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 222963] When selecting cjk ttf font on xfontsel, FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'encoding...` In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710310545.l9V5j7Jh006581@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: When selecting cjk ttf font on xfontsel, FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'encoding...` https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222963 ------- Additional Comments From petersen at redhat.com 2007-10-31 01:45 EST ------- I don't really understand > FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'jisx0208.1983-0' since it is common for Japanese fonts under Linux too. > FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'adobe-standard' for > FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'adobe-standard' for > FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'adobe-standard' for Can freetype handle these types of non-unix encoding? Or is it just following X locale? Sangu, why do you wish to use xfontsel? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 19:28:17 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:28:17 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 360781] New: lohit-fonts-* are installed even if corresponding language is excluded Message-ID: Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=360781 Summary: lohit-fonts-* are installed even if corresponding language is excluded Product: Fedora Version: fc6test3 Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: lohit-fonts AssignedTo: rbhalera at redhat.com ReportedBy: jreiser at bitwagon.com QAContact: extras-qa at fedoraproject.org CC: fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com,petersen at redhat.com Description of problem: The lohit-fonts-* packages are composed onto install media (and installed by default) even when the corresponding languages have been excluded intentionally. Instead, commenting out "## @malayalam-support" in /usr/share/pungi/f8-fedora.ks should omit the package lohit-fonts-malayalam, etc. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): lohit-fonts-*-2.1.5-3.fc8 How reproducible: always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Comment out all the "@ -support" lines in /usr/share/pungi/f8-fedora.ks by inserting a hash '#' at the beginning of the line. 2. compose install media using pungi; install with defaults 3. rpm -qa | grep lohit-fonts Actual results: lohit-fonts-bengali-2.1.5-3.fc8 lohit-fonts-gujarati-2.1.5-3.fc8 lohit-fonts-hindi-2.1.5-3.fc8 lohit-fonts-kannada-2.1.5-3.fc8 lohit-fonts-malayalam-2.1.5-3.fc8 lohit-fonts-oriya-2.1.5-3.fc8 lohit-fonts-punjabi-2.1.5-3.fc8 lohit-fonts-tamil-2.1.5-3.fc8 lohit-fonts-telugu-2.1.5-3.fc8 Expected results: No "lohit-fonts" lines because language support for those languages was suppressed. Additional info: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 19:30:11 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:30:11 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 360781] lohit-fonts-* are installed even if corresponding language is excluded In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710311930.l9VJUBCr011356@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: lohit-fonts-* are installed even if corresponding language is excluded https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=360781 jreiser at bitwagon.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Version|fc6test3 |devel -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 19:38:41 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:38:41 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 360801] New: baekmuk-ttf-fonts are installed if Korean language is excluded Message-ID: Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=360801 Summary: baekmuk-ttf-fonts are installed if Korean language is excluded Product: Fedora Version: devel Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: baekmuk-ttf-fonts AssignedTo: cchance at redhat.com ReportedBy: jreiser at bitwagon.com QAContact: extras-qa at fedoraproject.org CC: fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com,petersen at redhat.com Description of problem: The baekmuk-* packages are composed onto install media and installed by default even if "## @ korean-support" has been explicitly commented out from /usr/share/pungi/f8-fedora.ks. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): baekmuk-ttf-fonts-*-2.2-6.fc8 How reproducible: always Steps to Reproduce: 1. comment out all "@ -support" lines in /usr/share/pungi/f8-fedora.ks by inserting a hash '#' at the beginning of the line 2. compose install media; install with defaults 3. rpm -qa | grep baekmuk Actual results: baekmuk-ttf-fonts-common-2.2-6.fc8 baekmuk-ttf-fonts-gulim-2.2-6.fc8 Expected results: No baekmuk fonts because Korean was excluded explicitly. Additional info: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 19:43:38 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:43:38 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 360811] New: jomolhari-fonts is installed if Tibetan language is excluded Message-ID: Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=360811 Summary: jomolhari-fonts is installed if Tibetan language is excluded Product: Fedora Version: devel Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: jomolhari-fonts AssignedTo: mgarski at post.pl ReportedBy: jreiser at bitwagon.com QAContact: extras-qa at fedoraproject.org CC: fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com Description of problem: jomolhari-fonts is composed onto install media and instaslled by default despite commenting out "## @ tibetan-support" in /usr/share/pungi/f8-fedora.ks. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): jomolhari-fonts-0.003-4.fc8 How reproducible: always Steps to Reproduce: 1. comment-out "@ tibetan-support" in /usr/share/pungi/f8-fedora.ks by inserting a hash '#' at the beginning of the line 2. compuse install media using pungi; install with defaults 3. rpm -qa | grep jomolhari-fonts Actual results: jomolhari-fonts-0.003-4.fc8 Expected results: No jolmolhari-fonts because Tibetan language support was excluded explicitly. Additional info: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 19:54:13 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:54:13 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 360861] New: sazanami-fonts is installed if Japanese support is excluded Message-ID: Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=360861 Summary: sazanami-fonts is installed if Japanese support is excluded Product: Fedora Version: devel Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: sazanami-fonts AssignedTo: tagoh at redhat.com ReportedBy: jreiser at bitwagon.com QAContact: extras-qa at fedoraproject.org CC: fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com Description of problem: sazanami-fonts-gothic is composed onto install media and installed by default despite commenting out "## @japanese-support" in /usr/share/pungi/f8-fedora.ks. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): sazanami-fonts-gothic-0.20040629-4.20061016.fc8 How reproducible: always Steps to Reproduce: 1. comment out "@japanese-support" in /usr/share/pungi/f8-fedora.ks by inserting a hash '#' at the beginning of the line. 2. compose install media using pungi; install with defaults 3. rpm -qa | grep sazanami Actual results: sazanami-fonts-gothic-0.20040629-4.20061016.fc8 Expected results: No sazanami-fonts because support for Japanese was excluded explicitly. Additional info: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 20:03:38 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:03:38 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 360901] New: Smaller fonts in X in F8T3 after login Message-ID: Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=360901 Summary: Smaller fonts in X in F8T3 after login Product: Fedora Version: f8test3 Platform: x86_64 OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: xorg-x11-fonts AssignedTo: xgl-maint at redhat.com ReportedBy: mcrha at redhat.com QAContact: extras-qa at fedoraproject.org CC: caillon at redhat.com,fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com Description of problem: I noticed smaller fonts in F8T3 gnome with compare to F7. Even I saw some mails about it on mailing list, then I think this is a bit different. I noticed that right after login fonts are a bit bigger, for about 2-3 seconds, and then is something loaded (I guess), which makes fonts significantly smaller. I can still read it, but they are really smaller than on F7. It's smaller for all the gnome, not only for menu or some particular parts of window. Also, I noticed it on a message I described at bug #360851, which is there every login for me. I can see after login this message with bigger fonts, and I didn't do anything and they are suddenly smaller, after that 2-3 seconds. I'm not sure how to describe it better, or how to investigate what causes this, but if you can guide me, then I will try to help. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 20:22:53 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:22:53 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 360811] jomolhari-fonts is installed if Tibetan language is excluded In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710312022.l9VKMrJN020774@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: jomolhari-fonts is installed if Tibetan language is excluded https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=360811 mgarski at post.pl changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Flag| |needinfo?(jreiser at bitwagon.c | |om) ------- Additional Comments From mgarski at post.pl 2007-10-31 16:22 EST ------- You have excluded tibetan-support but there is still "@bhutanese-support". jomolhari-fonts is shared between those two groups. Try to comment out bhutanese-support too. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 20:42:22 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:42:22 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 360901] Smaller fonts in X in F8T3 after login In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710312042.l9VKgMf7023809@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Smaller fonts in X in F8T3 after login https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=360901 ------- Additional Comments From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net 2007-10-31 16:42 EST ------- You're probably hitting two things: 1. when you login your desktop is using system defaults, but after a short time it reads your preferences in gconf, so if you ever customized something font-related you'll see a transition when GNOME switches the settings from the values inherited from the system to the values you chose 2. older GNOME versions miscomputed a value used to size fonts (they assumed everyone had a 96dpi screen, which is not hardware reality). New GNOME versions (as the one in F8) use an xorg-computed dpi value (like KDE) so depending on your hardware, font sizes in GNOME are now bigger or smaller than you're used to (unless your xorg is misconfigured its DPI value is exact) What probably happened is F7 GNOME mis-sized fonts, you compensated in your user settings by scaling them down, and now GNOME correctly sizes font your user settings make them too small. Scratch your old user font settings and things should return to normal. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 20:59:39 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:59:39 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 360811] jomolhari-fonts is installed if Tibetan language is excluded In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710312059.l9VKxdVo025563@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: jomolhari-fonts is installed if Tibetan language is excluded https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=360811 jreiser at bitwagon.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Flag|needinfo?(jreiser at bitwagon.c| |om) | ------- Additional Comments From jreiser at bitwagon.com 2007-10-31 16:59 EST ------- Actually, I commented out every "@-support" line, so I intended to cover all those bases. But Katz says that "base-x" demands some exotic fonts. Is this true? (If so, then there really isn't much flexibility in the "optional" @-support lines.) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 21:20:05 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:20:05 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 360811] jomolhari-fonts is installed if Tibetan language is excluded In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710312120.l9VLK5qc029419@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: jomolhari-fonts is installed if Tibetan language is excluded https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=360811 ------- Additional Comments From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net 2007-10-31 17:20 EST ------- Exotic is in the eye of the beholder. If you want to remove every font but a specific set, you need both to comment out language groups and explicitely blacklist individual packages which are provided by generic groups. Language groups do not tag everything associated with a particular language, just everything to add for a particular language in addition to distro defaults. Otherwise removing every group would leave you with no fonts or localizations at all. Generaly speaking fine-tuning package sets requires reading the comps files fedora uses. They reflect policy, not technical defaults and policy is very subjective. BTW none of your bugs are related to the packages themselves, so please close them or reassign them to the component responsible for comps (I guess it's distribution) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 21:35:53 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:35:53 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 360901] Smaller fonts in X in F8T3 after login In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710312135.l9VLZr2t032604@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Smaller fonts in X in F8T3 after login https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=360901 mcepl at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Flag| |needinfo?(mcrha at redhat.com) ------- Additional Comments From mcepl at redhat.com 2007-10-31 17:35 EST ------- Milan, did the advice from comment 1 helped? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 22:58:21 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:58:21 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 360811] jomolhari-fonts is installed if Tibetan language is excluded In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710312258.l9VMwLAH012411@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: jomolhari-fonts is installed if Tibetan language is excluded https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=360811 jreiser at bitwagon.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|jomolhari-fonts |distribution -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 22:57:29 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:57:29 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 360801] baekmuk-ttf-fonts are installed if Korean language is excluded In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710312257.l9VMvTXY012376@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: baekmuk-ttf-fonts are installed if Korean language is excluded https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=360801 jreiser at bitwagon.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|baekmuk-ttf-fonts |distribution -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 22:56:35 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:56:35 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 360781] lohit-fonts-* are installed even if corresponding language is excluded In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710312256.l9VMuZ8j011516@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: lohit-fonts-* are installed even if corresponding language is excluded https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=360781 jreiser at bitwagon.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|lohit-fonts |distribution -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 22:59:55 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:59:55 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 360861] sazanami-fonts is installed if Japanese support is excluded In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710312259.l9VMxttk011614@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: sazanami-fonts is installed if Japanese support is excluded https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=360861 jreiser at bitwagon.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|sazanami-fonts |distribution -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Oct 31 23:05:37 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:05:37 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-fonts-list] [Bug 361101] New: Italic Liberation Serif produces a weird character instead of an a with a tilde Message-ID: Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=361101 Summary: Italic Liberation Serif produces a weird character instead of an a with a tilde Product: Fedora Version: f7 Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: high Priority: low Component: liberation-fonts AssignedTo: cchance at redhat.com ReportedBy: criscuolo.marcelo at gmail.com QAContact: extras-qa at fedoraproject.org CC: fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com Description of problem: When you type an "a" with a tilde (?) using italic Liberation Serif, you get a weird blurred character. Steps to Reproduce: Type an "a" with a tilde in any application using italic Liberation Serif. Or you can use ã in HTML formatting the character as italic and using Liberation Serif as the browser font. ------- Additional Comments From criscuolo.marcelo at gmail.com 2007-10-31 19:05 EST ------- Created an attachment (id=244971) --> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=244971&action=view) A screenshot of the weird a in OpenOffice (but it happens in any application). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.