[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 518395] add @input-methods to Package Selection screen

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518395


Hans de Goede <hdegoede at redhat.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |CLOSED
                 CC|                            |hdegoede at redhat.com
         Resolution|                            |WONTFIX




--- Comment #26 from Hans de Goede <hdegoede at redhat.com>  2009-12-07 06:38:11 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #23)
> I think until we have a safe way of installing immodules after
> system install, we will continue to install @input-methods by default
> for all users.

Exactly

> But I bet that the majority of Fedora users don't
> need input-methods, so that is why I would like for them to be able
> to say with one-click "my system doesn't need input-methods period"
> and save about 60-70MB of install and updates, rather than taking
> the challenge and entering the "Customize now" maze^Whierarchy. :)
> You can think of it as a task to "input natively with input methods".
> (In the same way that people who don't use openoffice.org, etc
> can uncheck it there too.)
>

Quoting Chris from comment #16:

"Consider this:  Does the end user have any idea what "Input Methods" is? 
Seems
unlikely to me.  Given this, why present the confusing choice of it as a
top-level group?"

Really this is not an anaconda issue, people also install 100 MB's of locale
data they don't need:

[hans at localhost ~]$ du -s /usr/share/locale
572992  /usr/share/locale
[hans at localhost ~]$

Of which I need exactly 0 MB as my language setting is en_US. And this does not
even include openoffice, firefox and thunderbird language packs.

We used to offer the option to configure rpm's behavior to only install locale
data for certain selected locale's, but we stopped doing that, as it is
impossible to later on allow installation of additionalo languages without a
complete re-install. And until this is fixed at the rpm / yum level there is
little we can do.

The point I'm trying to make is, that when it comes to the diskspace (or
bandwidth) / out of the box locale support discussion. So far Fedora has
clearly made the we want to support every locale under the Sun out of the box
solution.

An input methods checkbox is an ugly band aid solution for the price this
choice brings with it (and only solves a very small part of that price). If we
truly want to allow people to configure which locale's they want better, we
need a solution for the complete picture.

I'm more then willing to spend time making anaconda modifications for such a
complete solution, but we won't be putting all sort of ugly less then even half
way there solutions in anaconda.

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