From matt at rairyu.tk Fri May 7 06:01:58 2004 From: matt at rairyu.tk (Matthew Faull) Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 15:01:58 +0900 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Success with Japanese input in an English Gnome Session Message-ID: <409B2656.5040600@rairyu.tk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From llim at redhat.com Tue May 11 05:46:57 2004 From: llim at redhat.com (Lawrence) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 15:46:57 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] IIIMF Reseach/Whitepaper Message-ID: <1084254416.2348.156.camel@dragon.brisbane.redhat.com> Dear all IIIMF-enthusiast, I am currently in the process of preparing my thesis/whitepaper on IIIMF. As this is a research paper, I cannot just only include my own thoughts and experience about IIIMF, it requires me to gather and analyse data from experienced users like yourself and determine whether it matches my hypothesis. Hence, I need help from all of you by responding to a few simple scenario on how XIM and IIIMF handle each of the situation. There is no right and wrong answer to the scenarios. If you think XIM or IIIMF is better in a particular scenario, briefly justify your thought and I think this will led to very interesting discussion in the mailing list. Thanks for taking time to complete the survey and I look forward to your reply. Regards, Lawrence -------------- Scenario 1 A junior programmer has limited understanding of the X11 Server but wish to implement an Input Method for his native language. Which architecture/framework would be recommend to the programmer? What are the advantages and disadvantages of using XIM Architecture and IIIMF? Scenario 2 A marketing co-coordinator is in the process of creating a poster for an International event. The poster would have wordings of different languages. How does the XIM Architecture and IIIMF handle this? What are the implications of using XIM and IIIMF? Scenario 3 In the event where there is a need to modify a legacy document which is non-Unicode encoded. How does the Input Method implemented using XIM Architecture and IIIMF handle this situation? Scenario 4 A web developer has produced a machine translation application that translates between various of the many dialects used in India. They have a number of input engines for Indian languages, which they wish to make available to remote users who connect to the Web Server over the Internet. Which architecture/framework is most suitable for this situation? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From erix at iii.org.tw Tue May 11 09:12:32 2004 From: erix at iii.org.tw (ERIX) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 17:12:32 +0800 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] service IIIM performance Message-ID: <001201c43738$199ccfe0$450c5c8c@Camelot.trd.iii.org.tw> Every time I start the service IIim. The system becomes very busy. CPU load is keep 100%. Do somebody have the same problem ? OS: Fedora Core 1 iiimf rpm version: iiimf-*-11.4-1.FC1.2.i386.rpm (include server.gtk...etc) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From petersen at redhat.com Wed May 12 08:00:12 2004 From: petersen at redhat.com (Jens Petersen) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 17:00:12 +0900 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] service IIIM performance In-Reply-To: <001201c43738$199ccfe0$450c5c8c@Camelot.trd.iii.org.tw> References: <001201c43738$199ccfe0$450c5c8c@Camelot.trd.iii.org.tw> Message-ID: >>>>> "erix" == erix writes: erix> Every time I start the service IIim. The system erix> becomes very busy. CPU load is keep 100%. Do erix> somebody have the same problem ? erix> OS: Fedora Core 1 iiimf rpm version: erix> iiimf-*-11.4-1.FC1.2.i386.rpm This was just fixed for FC2: * Tue May 11 2004 Akira TAGOH 1:11.4-42 - im-sdk-11.4-initscript-lock.patch: to avoid the conflicts, which causes 100% CPU eaten. (Warren Togami, FC2 BLOCKER #122631) Jens From khirano at transwift.net Thu May 13 04:07:47 2004 From: khirano at transwift.net (Hirano Kazunari) Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:07:47 +0900 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] IIIMF weird behaviour Message-ID: <40A2F493.7020400@transwift.net> Hi, I updated my FC2 Test2 to FC2 Test3. On FC2 Test2, IIIMF works correctly and I can input Japanese. But on FC2 Test3, IIIMF shows [English] now. And if I hit ctrl+space, it shows [European]. I have never seen this happen. What's wrong with this? khirano From asgeir at frimannsson.com Tue May 18 02:41:18 2004 From: asgeir at frimannsson.com (Asgeir Frimannsson) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 12:41:18 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] KDE keyboard layouts Message-ID: <1084848003.3565.7.camel@blindfold> I'm trying to set up KDE to be able to switch between keyboard layouts, but the list in 'KDE Control Center -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Layouts' is empty. My current keyboard is set to US international, but I want to be able to switch to Norwegian keyboard layout using the KDE keyboard switcher. I have the following KDE packages installed: kde-i18n-Norwegian-3.2.2-2 kdegraphics-3.2.2-1 kdeaddons-3.2.2-1 kdelibs-devel-3.2.2-4 kdemultimedia-3.2.2-2 kdesdk-devel-3.2.2-2 lockdev-1.0.1-2.3.1 lockdev-devel-1.0.1-2.3.1 kdenetwork-devel-3.2.2-1 kdelibs-3.2.2-4 kdebase-devel-3.2.2-4 kdeutils-devel-3.2.2-3 kdegraphics-devel-3.2.2-1 kdepim-3.2.2-2 kdeadmin-3.2.2-2 kdenetwork-3.2.2-1 kdesdk-3.2.2-2 kdeutils-3.2.2-3 kdepim-devel-3.2.2-2 kdevelop-3.0.3-1 kde-i18n-Norwegian-Nynorsk-3.2.2-2 kdebase-3.2.2-4 I'm using Fedora Core 2 Test3. Any ideas what I'm missing? thanks, asgeir From llch at redhat.com Thu May 20 05:04:15 2004 From: llch at redhat.com (Leon Ho) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:04:15 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] KDE keyboard layouts In-Reply-To: <1084848003.3565.7.camel@blindfold> References: <1084848003.3565.7.camel@blindfold> Message-ID: <1085029455.2298.237.camel@windcloud.brisbane.redhat.com> When I was testing Indic langs I got the same problem. Please refer to this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=123702 Do "ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.lst" and runs kcontrol again should fix the problem. Leon On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 12:41, Asgeir Frimannsson wrote: > I'm trying to set up KDE to be able to switch between keyboard layouts, > but the list in 'KDE Control Center -> Regional & Accessibility -> > Keyboard Layouts' is empty. > > My current keyboard is set to US international, but I want to be able to > switch to Norwegian keyboard layout using the KDE keyboard switcher. > > I have the following KDE packages installed: > > kde-i18n-Norwegian-3.2.2-2 > kdegraphics-3.2.2-1 > kdeaddons-3.2.2-1 > kdelibs-devel-3.2.2-4 > kdemultimedia-3.2.2-2 > kdesdk-devel-3.2.2-2 > lockdev-1.0.1-2.3.1 > lockdev-devel-1.0.1-2.3.1 > kdenetwork-devel-3.2.2-1 > kdelibs-3.2.2-4 > kdebase-devel-3.2.2-4 > kdeutils-devel-3.2.2-3 > kdegraphics-devel-3.2.2-1 > kdepim-3.2.2-2 > kdeadmin-3.2.2-2 > kdenetwork-3.2.2-1 > kdesdk-3.2.2-2 > kdeutils-3.2.2-3 > kdepim-devel-3.2.2-2 > kdevelop-3.0.3-1 > kde-i18n-Norwegian-Nynorsk-3.2.2-2 > kdebase-3.2.2-4 > > I'm using Fedora Core 2 Test3. > > Any ideas what I'm missing? > > thanks, > asgeir > > -- > Fedora-i18n-list mailing list > Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list From asgeir at frimannsson.com Thu May 20 22:22:59 2004 From: asgeir at frimannsson.com (Asgeir Frimannsson) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 08:22:59 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] KDE keyboard layouts In-Reply-To: <1085029455.2298.237.camel@windcloud.brisbane.redhat.com> References: <1084848003.3565.7.camel@blindfold> <1085029455.2298.237.camel@windcloud.brisbane.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200405210823.00027.asgeir@frimannsson.com> On Thursday 20 May 2004 15:04, Leon Ho wrote: > When I was testing Indic langs I got the same problem. Please refer to > this bug: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=123702 > > Do "ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.lst" and runs kcontrol again > should fix the problem. > > Leon > > On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 12:41, Asgeir Frimannsson wrote: > > I'm trying to set up KDE to be able to switch between keyboard layouts, > > but the list in 'KDE Control Center -> Regional & Accessibility -> > > Keyboard Layouts' is empty. That worked, beautiful :) thanks Leon, asgeir From fedora at fugutabetai.com Sat May 22 18:05:46 2004 From: fedora at fugutabetai.com (Dave Evans) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 14:05:46 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Unable to input Japanese on stock FC2 intall: Can't add "Input Method Switcher" Message-ID: <40AF967A.7000309@fugutabetai.com> Hello everyone, I recently installed Fedora Core 2, and have been trying to get Japanese input working under an English environment (en_US.UTF-8). When I installed the system, I selected Japanese as a language that I wanted to support. IIimf packages look like they are installed: [devans at localhost devans]$ /sbin/service IIim status htt (pid 2360) is running... [devans at localhost devans]$ /sbin/service FreeWnn status jserver (pid 2397) is running... [devans at localhost devans]$ /sbin/service canna status cannaserver (pid 2372) is running... I think those are all the services that I need to have running - they are all started automatically (good!) When I try to add the "InputMethod switcher" applet to the panel, nothing happens. I'm not sure if this is related to the nothing showing up on the IM Switcher when in English bug that I've seen mentioned, but I can't get any sort of Japanese input to work anyway. What should I try next? I think I will install the newest RPMs from http://www.apac.redhat.com/iiimftest/files/fc2/, but I would like to figure out what is going wrong - I assume that a default install with Japanese language support should at least have the IM switcher show up. Any help? dave From llim at redhat.com Mon May 24 00:10:53 2004 From: llim at redhat.com (Lawrence) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 10:10:53 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Unable to input Japanese on stock FC2 intall: Can't add "Input Method Switcher" In-Reply-To: <40AF967A.7000309@fugutabetai.com> References: <40AF967A.7000309@fugutabetai.com> Message-ID: <1085357452.2348.1074.camel@dragon.brisbane.redhat.com> Hi Dave, Check if the applet is running by looking at the processes running. ps -aux |grep applet If it is running, /usr/libexec/gnome-im-switcher-applet --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_imswitcher_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=40 As you are in en_US locale, there are two way you can see the GIMLET. Method 1: GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim gedit (or any GTK application) Method 2: Right-click mouse in your GTK application and select IIIMF as your Input Method. Hope it helps, Lawrence On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 04:05, Dave Evans wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I recently installed Fedora Core 2, and have been trying to get > Japanese input working under an English environment (en_US.UTF-8). When > I installed the system, I selected Japanese as a language that I wanted > to support. IIimf packages look like they are installed: > > [devans at localhost devans]$ /sbin/service IIim status > htt (pid 2360) is running... > > [devans at localhost devans]$ /sbin/service FreeWnn status > jserver (pid 2397) is running... > > [devans at localhost devans]$ /sbin/service canna status > cannaserver (pid 2372) is running... > > I think those are all the services that I need to have running - they > are all started automatically (good!) When I try to add the > "InputMethod switcher" applet to the panel, nothing happens. I'm not > sure if this is related to the nothing showing up on the IM Switcher > when in English bug that I've seen mentioned, but I can't get any sort > of Japanese input to work anyway. > > What should I try next? I think I will install the newest RPMs from > http://www.apac.redhat.com/iiimftest/files/fc2/, but I would like to > figure out what is going wrong - I assume that a default install with > Japanese language support should at least have the IM switcher show up. > > Any help? > > dave > > > -- > Fedora-i18n-list mailing list > Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list From llim at redhat.com Mon May 24 00:25:56 2004 From: llim at redhat.com (Lawrence) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 10:25:56 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Unable to input Japanese on stock FC2 intall: Can't add "Input Method Switcher" In-Reply-To: <40AF967A.7000309@fugutabetai.com> References: <40AF967A.7000309@fugutabetai.com> Message-ID: <1085358355.2348.1076.camel@dragon.brisbane.redhat.com> Oh I also forgot to mention that this is a bug which is going to be fixed very soon. :) Thanks, Lawrence On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 04:05, Dave Evans wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I recently installed Fedora Core 2, and have been trying to get > Japanese input working under an English environment (en_US.UTF-8). When > I installed the system, I selected Japanese as a language that I wanted > to support. IIimf packages look like they are installed: > > [devans at localhost devans]$ /sbin/service IIim status > htt (pid 2360) is running... > > [devans at localhost devans]$ /sbin/service FreeWnn status > jserver (pid 2397) is running... > > [devans at localhost devans]$ /sbin/service canna status > cannaserver (pid 2372) is running... > > I think those are all the services that I need to have running - they > are all started automatically (good!) When I try to add the > "InputMethod switcher" applet to the panel, nothing happens. I'm not > sure if this is related to the nothing showing up on the IM Switcher > when in English bug that I've seen mentioned, but I can't get any sort > of Japanese input to work anyway. > > What should I try next? I think I will install the newest RPMs from > http://www.apac.redhat.com/iiimftest/files/fc2/, but I would like to > figure out what is going wrong - I assume that a default install with > Japanese language support should at least have the IM switcher show up. > > Any help? > > dave > > > -- > Fedora-i18n-list mailing list > Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list From fedora at fugutabetai.com Mon May 24 02:01:10 2004 From: fedora at fugutabetai.com (David Evans) Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 22:01:10 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Unable to input Japanese on stock FC2 intall: Can't add "Input Method Switcher" In-Reply-To: <1085357452.2348.1074.camel@dragon.brisbane.redhat.com> References: <40AF967A.7000309@fugutabetai.com> <1085357452.2348.1074.camel@dragon.brisbane.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40B15766.1070607@fugutabetai.com> Hello Lawrence, Thank you for the response. Indeed, the applet *is* running: /usr/libexec/gnome-im-switcher-applet --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_imswitcher_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=37 Starting gedit with GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim makes the IM switcher module appear, and work as expected. Unfortunately, the main application that I want to use Japanese input with is a Java application - it doesn't look like Java (under the 1.5.0 beta runtime at least) supports iiim as an input method. Both of the following failed: GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim /usr/java/j2sdk1.5.0/jre/bin/javaws /home/devans/.java/deployment/cache/javaws/http/Dfugutabetai.com/P80/DMsoftware/DMGMAO/DMcode/DMbug/AMGMAO.jnlp LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8 XMODIFIERS="@im=iiim" /usr/java/j2sdk1.5.0/jre/bin/javaws /home/devans/.java/deployment/cache/javaws/http/Dfugutabetai.com/P80/DMsoftware/DMGMAO/DMcode/DMbug/AMGMAO.jnlp however, if I manually start up kinput2, the following works: LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8 XMODIFIERS="@im=kinput2" /usr/java/j2sdk1.5.0/jre/bin/javaws /home/devans/.java/deployment/cache/javaws/http/Dfugutabetai.com/P80/DMsoftware/DMGMAO/DMcode/DMbug/AMGMAO.jnlp I really don't like using kinput2 though - iiim is much nicer. I actually don't know too much about internationalization and linux (just installed FC2 last week, and that is about the experience I have with either of them) although I have tried to read up on things. It looks like FC2 starts up canna and FreeWnn, which is what kinput2 is using via XIM, which Java supports. Is it possible to get iiim working with Java, or is that a Java issue? If it isn't possible, is there a better conversion engine / backend combo I can use with Java that at least pops up a graphical list like iiim for choices? Should I be asking these questions somewhere else? Thanks in advance, and I'm glad to see that the IM Switcher not appearing in en_US environments bug will be fixed soon. dave Lawrence wrote: >Hi Dave, >Check if the applet is running by looking at the processes running. > >ps -aux |grep applet > >If it is running, > >/usr/libexec/gnome-im-switcher-applet >--oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_imswitcher_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=40 > >As you are in en_US locale, there are two way you can see the GIMLET. > >Method 1: > >GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim gedit (or any GTK application) > >Method 2: > >Right-click mouse in your GTK application and select IIIMF as your Input >Method. > > >Hope it helps, >Lawrence > > >On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 04:05, Dave Evans wrote: > > >>Hello everyone, >> >> I recently installed Fedora Core 2, and have been trying to get >>Japanese input working under an English environment (en_US.UTF-8). When >>I installed the system, I selected Japanese as a language that I wanted >>to support. IIimf packages look like they are installed: >> >>[devans at localhost devans]$ /sbin/service IIim status >>htt (pid 2360) is running... >> >>[devans at localhost devans]$ /sbin/service FreeWnn status >>jserver (pid 2397) is running... >> >>[devans at localhost devans]$ /sbin/service canna status >>cannaserver (pid 2372) is running... >> >> I think those are all the services that I need to have running - they >>are all started automatically (good!) When I try to add the >>"InputMethod switcher" applet to the panel, nothing happens. I'm not >>sure if this is related to the nothing showing up on the IM Switcher >>when in English bug that I've seen mentioned, but I can't get any sort >>of Japanese input to work anyway. >> >> What should I try next? I think I will install the newest RPMs from >>http://www.apac.redhat.com/iiimftest/files/fc2/, but I would like to >>figure out what is going wrong - I assume that a default install with >>Japanese language support should at least have the IM switcher show up. >> >> Any help? >> >>dave >> >> >>-- >>Fedora-i18n-list mailing list >>Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com >>http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list >> >> From tagoh at redhat.com Mon May 24 08:15:44 2004 From: tagoh at redhat.com (Akira TAGOH) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 17:15:44 +0900 (JST) Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Re: kn_IN.UTF-8 support by X Window System In-Reply-To: <40AEE007.3080106@asahi-net.or.jp> References: <40AEE007.3080106@asahi-net.or.jp> Message-ID: <20040524.171544.32335502.tagoh@redhat.com> >>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2004 14:07:19 +0900, >>>>> "HK" == Hirano Kazunari wrote: HK> Hi, HK> When I tried to install OpenOffice.org Kannada version on my Fedora Core HK> 2 box, I got the following error: HK> I18N: X Window System doesn't support locale "kn_IN.UTF-8" HK> Does this mean X.org doesn't support the locale yet? Yes, right. you need to add XLC_LOCALE for kn_IN.UTF-8 under /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale. Regards, -- Akira TAGOH From tagoh at redhat.com Mon May 24 08:16:24 2004 From: tagoh at redhat.com (Akira TAGOH) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 17:16:24 +0900 (JST) Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Unable to input Japanese on stock FC2 intall: Can't add "Input Method Switcher" In-Reply-To: <40B15766.1070607@fugutabetai.com> References: <40AF967A.7000309@fugutabetai.com> <1085357452.2348.1074.camel@dragon.brisbane.redhat.com> <40B15766.1070607@fugutabetai.com> Message-ID: <20040524.171624.241927688.tagoh@redhat.com> Hi, >>>>> On Sun, 23 May 2004 22:01:10 -0400, >>>>> "DE" == David Evans wrote: DE> Hello Lawrence, DE> Thank you for the response. Indeed, the applet *is* running: DE> /usr/libexec/gnome-im-switcher-applet DE> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_imswitcher_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=37 DE> Starting gedit with GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim makes the IM switcher module DE> appear, and work as expected. Unfortunately, the main application that DE> I want to use Japanese input with is a Java application - it doesn't DE> look like Java (under the 1.5.0 beta runtime at least) supports iiim as DE> an input method. Both of the following failed: Well, GTK_IM_MODULE environment is used for gtk2 applications *only*. and right now gimlet (which you saw on the panel) works for it right now. if you want to use IIIMF for java, you have two way to use it. 1) java should supports XIM. so you can use IIIMF with XMODIFIERS=@im=htt. please make sure if httx is running. httx is a bridge program between XIM and IIIMF. you can use IIIMF even if the applications is not gtk2 applications and the applications supports XIM. 2) if you can modify your java source code, you can use iiimjcf to connect to IIIMF directly. DE> LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8 XMODIFIERS="@im=iiim" DE> /usr/java/j2sdk1.5.0/jre/bin/javaws DE> /home/devans/.java/deployment/cache/javaws/http/Dfugutabetai.com/P80/DMsoftware/DMGMAO/DMcode/DMbug/AMGMAO.jnlp DE> I really don't like using kinput2 though - iiim is much nicer. I DE> actually don't know too much about internationalization and linux (just DE> installed FC2 last week, and that is about the experience I have with DE> either of them) although I have tried to read up on things. It looks DE> like FC2 starts up canna and FreeWnn, which is what kinput2 is using via DE> XIM, which Java supports. DE> Is it possible to get iiim working with Java, or is that a Java issue? DE> If it isn't possible, is there a better conversion engine / backend DE> combo I can use with Java that at least pops up a graphical list like DE> iiim for choices? Should I be asking these questions somewhere else? DE> Thanks in advance, and I'm glad to see that the IM Switcher not DE> appearing in en_US environments bug will be fixed soon. DE> dave DE> Lawrence wrote: >> Hi Dave, >> Check if the applet is running by looking at the processes running. >> >> ps -aux |grep applet >> >> If it is running, >> >> /usr/libexec/gnome-im-switcher-applet >> --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_imswitcher_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=40 >> >> As you are in en_US locale, there are two way you can see the GIMLET. >> >> Method 1: >> >> GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim gedit (or any GTK application) >> >> Method 2: >> >> Right-click mouse in your GTK application and select IIIMF as your Input >> Method. >> >> >> Hope it helps, >> Lawrence >> >> >> On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 04:05, Dave Evans wrote: >> >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> I recently installed Fedora Core 2, and have been trying to get >>> Japanese input working under an English environment (en_US.UTF-8). When >>> I installed the system, I selected Japanese as a language that I wanted >>> to support. IIimf packages look like they are installed: >>> >>> [devans at localhost devans]$ /sbin/service IIim status >>> htt (pid 2360) is running... >>> >>> [devans at localhost devans]$ /sbin/service FreeWnn status >>> jserver (pid 2397) is running... >>> >>> [devans at localhost devans]$ /sbin/service canna status >>> cannaserver (pid 2372) is running... >>> >>> I think those are all the services that I need to have running - they >>> are all started automatically (good!) When I try to add the >>> "InputMethod switcher" applet to the panel, nothing happens. I'm not >>> sure if this is related to the nothing showing up on the IM Switcher >>> when in English bug that I've seen mentioned, but I can't get any sort >>> of Japanese input to work anyway. >>> >>> What should I try next? I think I will install the newest RPMs from >>> http://www.apac.redhat.com/iiimftest/files/fc2/, but I would like to >>> figure out what is going wrong - I assume that a default install with >>> Japanese language support should at least have the IM switcher show up. >>> >>> Any help? >>> >>> dave >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-i18n-list mailing list >>> Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com >>> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list >>> >>> DE> -- DE> Fedora-i18n-list mailing list DE> Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com DE> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list From khirano at transwift.net Mon May 24 08:37:08 2004 From: khirano at transwift.net (Hirano Kazunari) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 17:37:08 +0900 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Re: kn_IN.UTF-8 support by X Window System In-Reply-To: <20040524.171544.32335502.tagoh@redhat.com> References: <40AEE007.3080106@asahi-net.or.jp> <20040524.171544.32335502.tagoh@redhat.com> Message-ID: <40B1B434.10004@transwift.net> Hi Tagoh-san, Akira TAGOH wrote: >HK> I18N: X Window System doesn't support locale "kn_IN.UTF-8" >HK> Does this mean X.org doesn't support the locale yet? >Yes, right. you need to add XLC_LOCALE for kn_IN.UTF-8 under >/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale. > > Oh I see. Thank you very much. I've got an idea. Thanks, khirano From tagoh at redhat.com Mon May 24 14:11:24 2004 From: tagoh at redhat.com (Akira TAGOH) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 23:11:24 +0900 (JST) Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Call For Use of i18n keyword for bugs Message-ID: <20040524.231124.467303578.tagoh@redhat.com> Hi, Our bugzilla has supported 'i18n' keyword on Keywords field. and people can see from http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/describekeywords.cgi how many I18N related bugs are opened. (of course it's not only for I18N, though). but actually we have many bugs for I18N, which isn't added 'i18n' keyword. so I would like to call for use of 'i18n' keyword if you need to file an I18N related bug. it will helps us to track the I18N bugs. Please use proper keywords for people who wants to check out the bugs extensively. Thanks, -- Akira TAGOH From sopwith at redhat.com Mon May 24 17:47:00 2004 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 13:47:00 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Fedora Project Mailing Lists reminder Message-ID: This is a reminder of the mailing lists for the Fedora Project, and the purpose of each list. You can view this information at http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/communicate/ When you're using these mailing lists, please take the time to choose the one that is most appropriate to your post. If you don't know the right mailing list to use for a question or discussion, please contact me. This will help you get the best possible answer for your question, and keep other list subscribers happy! Mailing Lists Mailing lists are email addresses which send email to all users subscribed to the mailing list. Sending an email to a mailing list reaches all users interested in discussing a specific topic and users available to help other users with the topic. 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If you are interested in helping create releases, this is the list for you. fedora-docs-list - For participants of the docs project fedora-desktop-list - For discussions about desktop issues such as user interfaces, artwork, and usability fedora-config-list - For discussions about the development of configuration tools fedora-legacy-announce - For announcements about the Fedora Legacy Project fedora-legacy-list - For discussions about the Fedora Legacy Project fedora-selinux-list - For discussions about the Fedora SELinux Project fedora-de-list - For discussions about Fedora in the German language fedora-ja-list - For discussions about Fedora in the Japanese language fedora-i18n-list - For discussions about the internationalization of Fedora Core fedora-trans-list - For discussions about translating the software and documentation associated with the Fedora Project German: fedora-trans-de French: fedora-trans-fr Spanish: fedora-trans-es Italian: fedora-trans-it Brazilian Portuguese: fedora-trans-pt_br Japanese: fedora-trans-ja Korean: fedora-trans-ko Simplified Chinese: fedora-trans-zh_cn Traditional Chinese: fedora-trans-zh_tw From pijucliu at hawaiilinux.us Mon May 24 19:09:58 2004 From: pijucliu at hawaiilinux.us (Pi-Ju Christina Liu, MD) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 09:09:58 -1000 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Starting a new localization project Message-ID: <40B24886.8040808@hawaiilinux.us> Hi, I am interested in starting a new localization project for an indigent language for FC2. Could anyone tell me where I can find the basic materials? Thanx. From hiura at openi18n.org Mon May 24 22:57:23 2004 From: hiura at openi18n.org (Hideki Hiura) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 15:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Unable to input Japanese on stock FC2 intall: Can't add "Input Method Switcher" In-Reply-To: <40AF967A.7000309@fugutabetai.com> References: <40AF967A.7000309@fugutabetai.com> <40B15766.1070607@fugutabetai.com> Message-ID: <20040524.155723.125108273.hiura@openi18n.org (Hideki Hiura)> I guess the problem is already resolved with the info. Akira gave you. > From: Dave Evans > [devans at localhost devans]$ /sbin/service FreeWnn status > jserver (pid 2397) is running... Just FYI. FreeWnn/jserver are not needed, or not used, unless you add FreeWnn for IIIMF(http://bonobo.gnome.gr.jp/~nakai/iiimf/freewnn.tar.gz) developed by IIIMFIS(IIIMF Mofule Free Implementation Society - http://bonobo.gnome.gr.jp/~nakai/iiimf/). # Unfortunately, apparently this page is available only in Japanese. Enjoy! -- hiura@{freestandards.org,OpenI18N.org,li18nux.org,unicode.org,sun.com} Chair, OpenI18N.org/The Free Standards Group http://www.OpenI18N.org Architect/Sr. Staff Engineer, Sun Microsystems, Inc, USA eFAX: 509-693-8356 From llim at redhat.com Tue May 25 00:17:49 2004 From: llim at redhat.com (Lawrence) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 10:17:49 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Starting a new localization project In-Reply-To: <40B24886.8040808@hawaiilinux.us> References: <40B24886.8040808@hawaiilinux.us> Message-ID: <1085444268.2348.1090.camel@dragon.brisbane.redhat.com> Perhaps the following list may help. -- Lawrence fedora-trans-list - For discussions about translating the software and documentation associated with the Fedora Project German: fedora-trans-de French: fedora-trans-fr Spanish: fedora-trans-es Italian: fedora-trans-it Brazilian Portuguese: fedora-trans-pt_br Japanese: fedora-trans-ja Korean: fedora-trans-ko Simplified Chinese: fedora-trans-zh_cn Traditional Chinese: fedora-trans-zh_tw On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 05:09, Pi-Ju Christina Liu, MD wrote: > Hi, I am interested in starting a new localization project for an > indigent language for FC2. Could anyone tell me where I can find the > basic materials? Thanx. > -- > Fedora-i18n-list mailing list > Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list From fedora at fugutabetai.com Wed May 26 01:08:59 2004 From: fedora at fugutabetai.com (David Evans) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 21:08:59 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Unable to input Japanese on stock FC2 intall: Can't add "Input Method Switcher" In-Reply-To: <20040524.171624.241927688.tagoh@redhat.com> References: <40AF967A.7000309@fugutabetai.com> <1085357452.2348.1074.camel@dragon.brisbane.redhat.com> <40B15766.1070607@fugutabetai.com> <20040524.171624.241927688.tagoh@redhat.com> Message-ID: <40B3EE2B.2000107@fugutabetai.com> Akira TAGOH wrote: >>>>>>On Sun, 23 May 2004 22:01:10 -0400, >>>>>>"DE" == David Evans wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >DE> Starting gedit with GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim makes the IM switcher module >DE> appear, and work as expected. Unfortunately, the main application that >DE> I want to use Japanese input with is a Java application - it doesn't >DE> look like Java (under the 1.5.0 beta runtime at least) supports iiim as >DE> an input method. Both of the following failed: > >Well, GTK_IM_MODULE environment is used for gtk2 >applications *only*. and right now gimlet (which you saw on the >panel) works for it right now. if you want to use IIIMF for >java, you have two way to use it. > >1) java should supports XIM. so you can use IIIMF with > XMODIFIERS=@im=htt. please make sure if httx is > running. httx is a bridge program between XIM and > IIIMF. you can use IIIMF even if the applications is not > gtk2 applications and the applications supports XIM. > > > Hello Akira, thank you for your help. I have made sure that httx is running (which starts htt_xbe - I don't know what that is) and started my Java program with LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 (or LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8) and XMODIFIERS=@im=htt but Java will not recognize the input method. Running in a Japanese session, it does recognize it just fine though, so for now I will just log into a Japanese session. I would like to know why it won't work in an English environment though. If I am running httx, htt_xbe, cannaserver, htt, and have LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8 and XMODIFIER=@im=htt Java should allow for Japanese input using htt, right? >2) if you can modify your java source code, you can use > iiimjcf to connect to IIIMF directly. > > Could you point me to more information about this? I wrote the program I'm using, so if I can modify it to interact better with the IME I would like to do so (hopefully to support in-line editing, etc.) The only information I could find is the main page at: http://www.openi18n.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=30&page=1 - but I couldn't find any information on an API, any Java libraries I could include with my code to bind to, etc. Thanks in advance, dave From chafaihicham at yahoo.fr Wed May 26 08:58:03 2004 From: chafaihicham at yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?chafai=20hicham?=) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:58:03 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] gcj compiler Message-ID: <20040526085803.73803.qmail@web86408.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> hellow all I devloppe the swing applications and servlets using tomcat ,but in fedora 2 tomcat work with gnu gcj compiler and gij interpreter can't initialize any swing or awt application,and i can't find the root cause for this problem . my question is: if i install the sun j2sdk1.4.2 ,and i set the JAVA_HOME at the profile file,this don't cause a conflit with gcj,spacialy for tomcat?? Yahoo! Mail : votre e-mail personnel et gratuit qui vous suit partout ! Cr?ez votre Yahoo! Mail sur http://fr.benefits.yahoo.com/ Dialoguez en direct avec vos amis gr?ce ? Yahoo! Messenger !T?l?chargez Yahoo! Messenger sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com From llch at redhat.com Thu May 27 05:48:06 2004 From: llch at redhat.com (Leon Ho) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 15:48:06 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Unable to input Japanese on stock FC2 intall: Can't add "Input Method Switcher" In-Reply-To: <40B3EE2B.2000107@fugutabetai.com> References: <40AF967A.7000309@fugutabetai.com> <1085357452.2348.1074.camel@dragon.brisbane.redhat.com> <40B15766.1070607@fugutabetai.com> <20040524.171624.241927688.tagoh@redhat.com> <40B3EE2B.2000107@fugutabetai.com> Message-ID: <1085636885.9999.46.camel@windcloud.brisbane.redhat.com> > Hello Akira, thank you for your help. I have made sure that httx is > running (which starts htt_xbe - I don't know what that is) and started > my Java program with LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 (or LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8) and > XMODIFIERS=@im=htt but Java will not recognize the input method. > Running in a Japanese session, it does recognize it just fine though, so > for now I will just log into a Japanese session. I would like to know > why it won't work in an English environment though. If I am running > httx, htt_xbe, cannaserver, htt, and have LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8 and > XMODIFIER=@im=htt Java should allow for Japanese input using htt, right? httx need to be run on particular locale you got to use it on to enable the bridging with XIM. In your case that will be running 'LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 httx' Cheers, Leon From khirano at transwift.net Thu May 27 06:17:30 2004 From: khirano at transwift.net (Hirano Kazunari) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 15:17:30 +0900 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Can't use a user dictionary under IIIMF Message-ID: <40B587FA.9010200@transwift.net> Hi, A new FC2 user reported that he could use his user dictionary (canna) through kinput2 but now on FC2 he can not use it with IIIMF. He used xemacs to register words into the user dictionary. If you register words using xemacs, this information is added to /var/lib/canna/dic/user/hoge/usr1.ctd. This means xemacs's Japanese input system is looking at it. Which dictionary is IIIMF looking into? khriano From tagoh at redhat.com Thu May 27 07:26:02 2004 From: tagoh at redhat.com (Akira TAGOH) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 16:26:02 +0900 (JST) Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Can't use a user dictionary under IIIMF In-Reply-To: <40B587FA.9010200@transwift.net> References: <40B587FA.9010200@transwift.net> Message-ID: <20040527.162602.846942547.tagoh@redhat.com> >>>>> On Thu, 27 May 2004 15:17:30 +0900, >>>>> "HK" == Hirano Kazunari wrote: HK> Hi, HK> A new FC2 user reported that he could use his user dictionary (canna) through kinput2 but now on FC2 he can not use it with IIIMF. He used xemacs to register words into the user dictionary. If you register words using xemacs, this information is added to /var/lib/canna/dic/user/hoge/usr1.ctd. This means xemacs's Japanese input system is looking at it. Which dictionary is IIIMF looking into? That's a bug. it actually worked when htt_server was running as root. but now it's running as a htt user, and LEs seems to get a htt user as the username rather than the current user. so could you file a bug to bugzilla? Thanks, -- Akira TAGOH From tagoh at redhat.com Thu May 27 07:39:48 2004 From: tagoh at redhat.com (Akira TAGOH) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 16:39:48 +0900 (JST) Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Unable to input Japanese on stock FC2 intall: Can't add "Input Method Switcher" In-Reply-To: <40B3EE2B.2000107@fugutabetai.com> References: <40B15766.1070607@fugutabetai.com> <20040524.171624.241927688.tagoh@redhat.com> <40B3EE2B.2000107@fugutabetai.com> Message-ID: <20040527.163948.607962553.tagoh@redhat.com> >>>>> On Tue, 25 May 2004 21:08:59 -0400, >>>>> "DE" == David Evans wrote: DE> Could you point me to more information about this? I wrote the program DE> I'm using, so if I can modify it to interact better with the IME I would DE> like to do so (hopefully to support in-line editing, etc.) The only DE> information I could find is the main page at: DE> http://www.openi18n.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=30&page=1 DE> - but I couldn't find any information on an API, any Java libraries I DE> could include with my code to bind to, etc. Unfortunately I'm not familiar Java, and some links of documentation seems to be missing. so asking the upstream about this is better, I think. Regards, -- Akira TAGOH From fedora at fugutabetai.com Fri May 28 02:36:18 2004 From: fedora at fugutabetai.com (David Evans) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 22:36:18 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Unable to input Japanese on stock FC2 intall: Can't add "Input Method Switcher" In-Reply-To: <1085636885.9999.46.camel@windcloud.brisbane.redhat.com> References: <40AF967A.7000309@fugutabetai.com> <1085357452.2348.1074.camel@dragon.brisbane.redhat.com> <40B15766.1070607@fugutabetai.com> <20040524.171624.241927688.tagoh@redhat.com> <40B3EE2B.2000107@fugutabetai.com> <1085636885.9999.46.camel@windcloud.brisbane.redhat.com> Message-ID: <40B6A5A2.4020905@fugutabetai.com> Leon Ho wrote: >>Hello Akira, thank you for your help. I have made sure that httx is >>running (which starts htt_xbe - I don't know what that is) and started >>my Java program with LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 (or LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8) and >>XMODIFIERS=@im=htt but Java will not recognize the input method. >>Running in a Japanese session, it does recognize it just fine though, so >>for now I will just log into a Japanese session. I would like to know >>why it won't work in an English environment though. If I am running >>httx, htt_xbe, cannaserver, htt, and have LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8 and >>XMODIFIER=@im=htt Java should allow for Japanese input using htt, right? >> >> > >httx need to be run on particular locale you got to use it on to enable >the bridging with XIM. In your case that will be running >'LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 httx' > >Cheers, >Leon > > > Thanks! That worked just great! I've got Japanese input on GTK apps working great, and now Java as well. (Of course, I do have to kill the httx that starts automatically and start one up with LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8, but that is fine by me.) Thanks for all the help! dave From noriko at redhat.com Fri May 28 09:31:57 2004 From: noriko at redhat.com (Noriko Mizumoto) Date: 28 May 2004 19:31:57 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Japanese language related issues Message-ID: <1085736717.4267.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> How do you do. I am noriko mizumoto, ja-translator from fedora-trans-ja. As you may know, japanese community is pretty much acitive for fedora project. Now several issues related to ja lang have caught my attention during the meeting with Nakai-san in Japan. I would like to share this information and discuss amoung here pro-active developers widely reside to improve. If any information is wrong, please correct me. ?Fedora Project and Japanese community? [Community side request] * Fedora.jp, one of active community group in Japan is requesting the following to Fedora Project,but not improved yet. 1. Bugzilla is in English only. - Proposed to make a copy Bugzilla to create ja version for i18n. - Fedora.jp will relay between Bugzilla and Bugzilla Japanese version. 2. Fedora page is in English only. - Proposed to open html and arrange space to translate them in each language. 3. It seems not fully open to public especially for i18n. * No one in Red Hat is in charge for Fedora.jp (Responsibility). * More Fedora community groups have turned up in Japan, so that Fedora.jp address to them to merge into Fedora.jp. [Fedora-trans-ja side] * We need to secure space first for both Bugzilla ja version and Fedora page ja version. * We are concerning that people may not be able to distinguish between Fedora.jp and Red Hat Fedora Project. People should know explicitly whether they are contributing Fedora Project direct or via Fedora.jp. * There is no problem that multiple communities turning up. I think no need to merge. Sincerely yours, Noriko Mizumoto Translator From mhideo at redhat.com Fri May 28 11:46:13 2004 From: mhideo at redhat.com (Michael Hideo Smith) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 21:46:13 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Japanese language related issues In-Reply-To: <1085736717.4267.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1085736717.4267.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <40B72685.9060402@redhat.com> Thanks Noriko, Here's a link re: getting the foundations of bugzilla localised. http://www.bugzilla.org/dev/l10n-guide.html How hard is this, anyway? - Mike Noriko Mizumoto wrote: >How do you do. >I am noriko mizumoto, ja-translator from fedora-trans-ja. >As you may know, japanese community is pretty much acitive for fedora >project. Now several issues related to ja lang have caught my attention >during the meeting with Nakai-san in Japan. >I would like to share this information and discuss amoung here >pro-active developers widely reside to improve. >If any information is wrong, please correct me. > > >?Fedora Project and Japanese community? > >[Community side request] > >* Fedora.jp, one of active community group in Japan is requesting the >following to Fedora Project,but not >improved yet. > >1. Bugzilla is in English only. >- Proposed to make a copy Bugzilla to create ja version for i18n. >- Fedora.jp will relay between Bugzilla and Bugzilla Japanese version. > >2. Fedora page is in English only. >- Proposed to open html and arrange space to translate them in each >language. > >3. It seems not fully open to public especially for i18n. > >* No one in Red Hat is in charge for Fedora.jp (Responsibility). > >* More Fedora community groups have turned up in Japan, so that >Fedora.jp address to them to merge into Fedora.jp. > > >[Fedora-trans-ja side] > >* We need to secure space first for both Bugzilla ja version and Fedora >page ja version. > >* We are concerning that people may not be able to distinguish between >Fedora.jp and Red Hat Fedora Project. People should know explicitly >whether they are contributing Fedora Project direct or via Fedora.jp. > >* There is no problem that multiple communities turning up. I think no >need to merge. > > > >Sincerely yours, > > >Noriko Mizumoto >Translator > >-- >Fedora-i18n-list mailing list >Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list > > From hiura at openi18n.org Fri May 28 19:00:49 2004 From: hiura at openi18n.org (Hideki Hiura) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 12:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Unable to input Japanese on stock FC2 intall: Can't add "Input Method Switcher" In-Reply-To: <20040527.163948.607962553.tagoh@redhat.com> References: <20040524.171624.241927688.tagoh@redhat.com> <40B3EE2B.2000107@fugutabetai.com> <20040527.163948.607962553.tagoh@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040528.120049.131600076.hiura@openi18n.org (Hideki Hiura)> Sorry for not responding quickly! > From: Akira TAGOH > DE> - but I couldn't find any information on an API, any Java libraries I > DE> could include with my code to bind to, etc. > Unfortunately I'm not familiar Java, and some links of > documentation seems to be missing. so asking the upstream > about this is better, I think. There is no specific APIs, Classes, or libraries Applications need to use. IIIMJCF is a Java IMF plugin module, just like gtk+im immodule, it is transparent from an application. An application calls Java IM API (actually mostly things are excapsulated inside system classes), so just like you get IIIMF without reprogramming in gtk+ application, you also get IIIMF support in Java without reprogramming. As far as iiimf.jar is installed as /lib/ext/iiimf.jar such as /usr/java/j2redefault/lib/ext/iiimf.jar a user should be able to select IIIMF instead of XIM. # Just FYI. # APIs Akira referred must be the Java IMF API, which you can find # bunch of docs by running search on "input method" on java.sun.com. Hope it helps! -- hiura@{freestandards.org,OpenI18N.org,li18nux.org,unicode.org,sun.com} Chair, OpenI18N.org/The Free Standards Group http://www.OpenI18N.org Architect/Sr. Staff Engineer, Sun Microsystems, Inc, USA eFAX: 509-693-8356 > > Regards, > -- > Akira TAGOH > -- > Fedora-i18n-list mailing list > Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list From hiura at openi18n.org Fri May 28 19:19:52 2004 From: hiura at openi18n.org (Hideki Hiura) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 12:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Unable to input Japanese on stock FC2 intall: Can't add "Input Method Switcher" In-Reply-To: <40B6A5A2.4020905@fugutabetai.com> References: <40B3EE2B.2000107@fugutabetai.com> <1085636885.9999.46.camel@windcloud.brisbane.redhat.com> <40B6A5A2.4020905@fugutabetai.com> Message-ID: <20040528.121952.98315825.hiura@openi18n.org (Hideki Hiura)> > From: David Evans > (Of course, I do have to kill the httx that starts automatically and > start one up with LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8, but that is fine by me.) This sounds so strange, right? Yup, this is one of the biggest reasons that I am trying to put XIM in rest:-). This is the XIM design limitation. Here is the technical explanation what is happening behind those locale settings. A user has to run both appliacations and XIM server in same locale due to the fact that XIM architecture is bound to the locale from its pre-connection phase. (IIIMF does language handshake as a part of core IIIM protocol, but XIM protocol does not, instead, it uses locale name to find XIM server...) So if they are on different locales, they don't even find each other. Since httx(htt_xbe) is also bound to XIM limitation, even it uses IIIM Server as its backend, we can't avoid this problem. Hope you can get a luck on IIIMJCF(iiimf.jar) so that you don't have to go through XIM on Java and have same level of multilinguality as gtk. Regards, -- hiura@{freestandards.org,OpenI18N.org,li18nux.org,unicode.org,sun.com} Chair, OpenI18N.org/The Free Standards Group http://www.OpenI18N.org Architect/Sr. Staff Engineer, Sun Microsystems, Inc, USA eFAX: 509-693-8356 From michal at gsm.eurotel.sk Mon May 31 08:55:33 2004 From: michal at gsm.eurotel.sk (michal) Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 11:55:33 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] bootdisk Message-ID: <20040531115533.M9272@gsm.eurotel.sk> helo, i want install fedora from local hard disk, but didnt find bootdisk.img, i found only http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/2/i386/os/images/diskb oot.img and it is 6MB, if I make boot disk from it there is messages BOOT FAILED m.