From rodolfo at heartsome.net Mon Oct 4 22:16:42 2004 From: rodolfo at heartsome.net (Rodolfo M. Raya) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:16:42 -0300 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Typing Chinese while keeping the application in English Message-ID: <1096928202.3692.30.camel@elrond.maxprograms.com> Hi, Is there a way to type Chinese using IIIMF without setting LANG to zh_cn at UTF-8 ? I want to keep my applications in English/Spanish and be able to type in Chinese. If I set the LANG variable to Chinese, all menus are displayed in Chinese and I don't want that. I'm able to achieve this using SCIM as input method, but it is neither part of Fedora nor the recommended input method. Regards, Rodolfo -- Rodolfo M. Raya Heartsome Holdings Pte. Ltd. From rodolfo at heartsome.net Mon Oct 4 22:21:59 2004 From: rodolfo at heartsome.net (Rodolfo M. Raya) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:21:59 -0300 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Typing Chinese while keeping the application in English In-Reply-To: <1096928202.3692.30.camel@elrond.maxprograms.com> References: <1096928202.3692.30.camel@elrond.maxprograms.com> Message-ID: <1096928519.3692.32.camel@elrond.maxprograms.com> Oops!, sorry, wrong list :( Rodolfo -- Rodolfo M. Raya Heartsome Holdings Pte. Ltd. From rodolfo at heartsome.net Mon Oct 4 22:22:48 2004 From: rodolfo at heartsome.net (Rodolfo M. Raya) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:22:48 -0300 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Typing Chinese while keeping the application in English Message-ID: <1096928568.3692.34.camel@elrond.maxprograms.com> Hi, Is there a way to type Chinese using IIIMF without setting LANG to zh_cn at UTF-8 ? I want to keep my applications in English/Spanish and be able to type in Chinese. If I set the LANG variable to Chinese, all menus are displayed in Chinese and I don't want that. I'm able to achieve this using SCIM as input method, but it is neither part of Fedora nor the recommended input method. Regards, Rodolfo -- Rodolfo M. Raya Heartsome Holdings Pte. Ltd. From yshao at redhat.com Tue Oct 5 03:32:42 2004 From: yshao at redhat.com (Yu Shao) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 13:32:42 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Typing Chinese while keeping the application in English In-Reply-To: <1096928568.3692.34.camel@elrond.maxprograms.com> References: <1096928568.3692.34.camel@elrond.maxprograms.com> Message-ID: <416215DA.9050103@redhat.com> Hi Rodolfo, Certainly, you can. - In Gnome, select "Internet/Intranet Input Method" by right click the mouse and then follow the "Input Method" menu. - Add GIMLET to the desktop panel, use GIMLET to select which language/Inpu Method you want. Hope it helps, Yu Shao Rodolfo M. Raya wrote: >Hi, > >Is there a way to type Chinese using IIIMF without setting LANG to >zh_cn at UTF-8 ? > >I want to keep my applications in English/Spanish and be able to type in >Chinese. If I set the LANG variable to Chinese, all menus are displayed >in Chinese and I don't want that. I'm able to achieve this using SCIM as >input method, but it is neither part of Fedora nor the recommended input >method. > >Regards, >Rodolfo > > From satimis at yahoo.com Tue Oct 5 06:45:23 2004 From: satimis at yahoo.com (Stephen Liu) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 14:45:23 +0800 (CST) Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Typing Chinese while keeping the application in English In-Reply-To: <416215DA.9050103@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20041005064523.25806.qmail@web40306.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Yu, FedoraCore2 --- Yu Shao wrote: > - In Gnome, select "Internet/Intranet Input Method" > by right click the > mouse and then follow the "Input Method" menu. Login GNOME 'American English' Niether can I find "Internet/Intranet Input Method" with 'Right_click' on GNOME desktop Nor can I find "Input Method" menu # cat ~/.il8n LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8 LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8 XIM=htt > - Add GIMLET to the desktop panel, use GIMLET to > select which > language/Inpu Method you want. Both # yum search gimlet # yum search GIMLET can't find GIMLET. Please advise. TIA B.R. Stephen Liu > Hope it helps, > Yu Shao > > > Rodolfo M. Raya wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >Is there a way to type Chinese using IIIMF without > setting LANG to > >zh_cn at UTF-8 ? > > > >I want to keep my applications in English/Spanish > and be able to type in > >Chinese. If I set the LANG variable to Chinese, all > menus are displayed > >in Chinese and I don't want that. I'm able to > achieve this using SCIM as > >input method, but it is neither part of Fedora nor > the recommended input > >method. > > > >Regards, > >Rodolfo From danieyek at alumni.washington.edu Tue Oct 5 07:21:20 2004 From: danieyek at alumni.washington.edu (Daniel S.K. Yek =?UTF-8?Q?=e5=8f=b6=e7=9b=9b=e5=88=9a?=) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:21:20 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Typing Chinese while keeping the application in English In-Reply-To: <20041005064523.25806.qmail@web40306.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20041005064523.25806.qmail@web40306.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1096960880.3452.167.camel@haiou.olywa.net> Hi Stephen, On Mon, 2004-10-04 at 23:45, Stephen Liu wrote: > > Login GNOME 'American English' > > Niether can I find "Internet/Intranet Input Method" > with 'Right_click' on GNOME desktop > > Nor can I find "Input Method" menu Not right-click on GNOME desktop, but right-click on gedit or Evolution's email compose edit box. Then, choose Input Methods / Internet/Intranet Input Method. The GIMLET applet will appear on the panel (task bar). In my case, it shows "English". Clicking on the applet, do whatever necessary to select Simplified Chinese, then use pinyin to input Chinese characters. Don't use space bar while entering Chinese character, cause if you hit space bar, the applet will switch to show ??, which indicates that pinyin input is disabled. To reenable it, click on GIMLET applet and select Chinese again. To disable pinyin (to enter English words), hit space bar, or Ctrl-Space Bar, or click on GIMLET applet and select English. This facility is not user-friendly yet, but at least now, I can use it effectively, after getting to know its bizarre behavior. Hope that helps. -- Daniel. From satimis at yahoo.com Tue Oct 5 08:29:46 2004 From: satimis at yahoo.com (Stephen Liu) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:29:46 +0800 (CST) Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Typing Chinese while keeping the application in English In-Reply-To: <1096960880.3452.167.camel@haiou.olywa.net> Message-ID: <20041005082946.25851.qmail@web40304.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Daniel, Tks for your advice. Login Gnome (language tried : Trad/Simplified Chinese) > Gedit > Right click > Input Method "Internet/Intranet Input Method" already selected. Input method already loaded. GIMLET applet not found 'Ctrl+Space bar' switching between Pinyin/Canjie and English. Chinese input is possible My problems were 1) If I can't find a Chinese character needed on the first page I can't switch to another page (additional/following page). This happens on all programs, such as, Kedit, Kmail, Gedit, OOo Writer, etc. 2) The contents in the Menu/tool-bar on OOo Writer disappear, if login Trad/Simplified Chinese, leaving only English characters there (short form description). I don't need Chinese menu. English menu can serve me. I don't know how to fix them. I have another FC2 box which does not have those problems. It is quite funny to me. I have posted those problems before without response. Can you help. TIA B.R. Stephen --- "Daniel S.K. Yek ?????????" wrote: > Hi Stephen, > > On Mon, 2004-10-04 at 23:45, Stephen Liu wrote: > > > > Login GNOME 'American English' > > > > Niether can I find "Internet/Intranet Input > Method" > > with 'Right_click' on GNOME desktop > > > > Nor can I find "Input Method" menu > > Not right-click on GNOME desktop, but right-click on > gedit or > Evolution's email compose edit box. > > Then, choose Input Methods / Internet/Intranet Input > Method. The GIMLET > applet will appear on the panel (task bar). In my > case, it shows > "English". Clicking on the applet, do whatever > necessary to select > Simplified Chinese, then use pinyin to input Chinese > characters. > > Don't use space bar while entering Chinese > character, cause if you hit > space bar, the applet will switch to show ??????, > which indicates that > pinyin input is disabled. To reenable it, click on > GIMLET applet and > select Chinese again. > > To disable pinyin (to enter English words), hit > space bar, or Ctrl-Space > Bar, or click on GIMLET applet and select English. > > This facility is not user-friendly yet, but at least > now, I can use it > effectively, after getting to know its bizarre > behavior. > > Hope that helps. > > -- > Daniel. From rodolfo at heartsome.net Tue Oct 5 12:24:12 2004 From: rodolfo at heartsome.net (Rodolfo M. Raya) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:24:12 -0300 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Typing Chinese while keeping the application in English In-Reply-To: <416215DA.9050103@redhat.com> References: <1096928568.3692.34.camel@elrond.maxprograms.com> <416215DA.9050103@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1096979052.4578.14.camel@elrond.maxprograms.com> On Tue, 2004-10-05 at 00:32, Yu Shao wrote: > Certainly, you can. > > - In Gnome, select "Internet/Intranet Input Method" by right click the > mouse and then follow the "Input Method" menu. > - Add GIMLET to the desktop panel, use GIMLET to select which > language/Inpu Method you want. > > Hope it helps, Hi Yu Shao, Yes, certainly it helped. As you said in another message gimlet is not really user friendly. I got used to press space bar to confirm the text as I type and gimlet default behaviour is rather annoying to me. I feel more comfortable using SCIM at this moment. Thanks for your help, Rodolfo From llch at redhat.com Tue Oct 5 15:47:21 2004 From: llch at redhat.com (Leon Ho) Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:47:21 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Typing Chinese while keeping the application in English In-Reply-To: <20041005082946.25851.qmail@web40304.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20041005082946.25851.qmail@web40304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1096991241.3916.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, > "Internet/Intranet Input Method" already selected. > Input method already loaded. GIMLET applet not found To add gimlet applet - right click on your panel -> Add to Panel -> Utility -> InputMethod Switcher. > > 'Ctrl+Space bar' switching between Pinyin/Canjie and > English. Chinese input is possible > > My problems were > > 1) If I can't find a Chinese character needed on the > first page I can't switch to another page > (additional/following page). This happens on all > programs, such as, Kedit, Kmail, Gedit, OOo Writer, > etc. > 2) The contents in the Menu/tool-bar on OOo Writer > disappear, if login Trad/Simplified Chinese, leaving > only English characters there (short form > description). I don't need Chinese menu. English > menu can serve me. > > I don't know how to fix them. I have another FC2 box > which does not have those problems. It is quite funny > to me. Is it because you have upgraded iiimf-le-xcin to the latest version on the other FC2 machine when we were discussing this problem initially? :-) Try to upgrade again and see if it helps. Cheers, Leon From satimis at yahoo.com Tue Oct 5 16:41:25 2004 From: satimis at yahoo.com (Stephen Liu) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 00:41:25 +0800 (CST) Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Typing Chinese while keeping the application in English In-Reply-To: <1096991241.3916.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20041005164125.38747.qmail@web40302.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Leon, > To add gimlet applet - right click on your panel -> > Add to Panel -> > Utility -> InputMethod Switcher. Ok. InputMethod Switcher added. Tks > > I don't know how to fix them. I have another FC2 > box > > which does not have those problems. It is quite > > funny to me. > > Is it because you have upgraded iiimf-le-xcin to the > latest version on > the other FC2 machine when we were discussing this > problem > initially? :-) > > Try to upgrade again and see if it helps. Subject: Re: [Fedora-i18n-list] A question on Chinese input - gedit From: "Leon Ho" To: "Fedora internationalization discussions" Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 18:29:13 +1000 http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/iiimf-le-xcin-0.1.7-2.i386.rpm The file is not there. B.R. Stephen Liu From llch at redhat.com Tue Oct 5 16:55:48 2004 From: llch at redhat.com (Leon Ho) Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:55:48 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Typing Chinese while keeping the application in English In-Reply-To: <20041005164125.38747.qmail@web40302.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20041005164125.38747.qmail@web40302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1096995348.3916.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 00:41 +0800, Stephen Liu wrote: > Hi Leon, > > > To add gimlet applet - right click on your panel -> > > Add to Panel -> > > Utility -> InputMethod Switcher. > > Ok. InputMethod Switcher added. Tks > Cool. > > > I don't know how to fix them. I have another FC2 > > box > > > which does not have those problems. It is quite > > > funny to me. > > > > Is it because you have upgraded iiimf-le-xcin to the > > latest version on > > the other FC2 machine when we were discussing this > > problem > > initially? :-) > > > > Try to upgrade again and see if it helps. > > Subject: Re: [Fedora-i18n-list] A question on Chinese > input - gedit > From: "Leon Ho" > To: "Fedora internationalization discussions" > > Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 18:29:13 +1000 > > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/iiimf-le-xcin-0.1.7-2.i386.rpm > Because it has new version again :-) Try to delete the filename and then it will list all the file :) download iiimf-le-xcin-* i.e. http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/ Cheers, Leon > The file is not there. > > B.R. > Stephen Liu > > -- > Fedora-i18n-list mailing list > Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list From danieyek at alumni.washington.edu Wed Oct 6 06:34:11 2004 From: danieyek at alumni.washington.edu (Daniel S.K. Yek =?UTF-8?Q?=e5=8f=b6=e7=9b=9b=e5=88=9a?=) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 23:34:11 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Typing Chinese while keeping the application in English In-Reply-To: <20041005082946.25851.qmail@web40304.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20041005082946.25851.qmail@web40304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1097044451.3452.211.camel@haiou.olywa.net> Hi Stephen, On Tue, 2004-10-05 at 01:29, Stephen Liu wrote: > > Login Gnome (language tried : Trad/Simplified Chinese) > > Gedit > Right click > Input Method I am using English language as the default. I hardly ever login to Gnome session in Chinese. With UNICODE & UTF-8 (UNICODE Transformation Format) support, you can enter any UNICODE characters in a document. You don't have to use Chinese menu. Just remember to send emails with UTF-8 encoding (except for some web-mail users, who can receive only BIG-5 or GB-2312 encoding.) Text files are typically saved as UTF-8 encoding. > 'Ctrl+Space bar' switching between Pinyin/Canjie and > English. Chinese input is possible > My Ctrl+Space bar doesn't work, maybe I haven't upgraded to the latest. Your setup works better than mine in this particular aspect! I might wait for Fedora Core 3 before I have time to upgrade everything together. > My problems were > > 1) If I can't find a Chinese character needed on the > first page I can't switch to another page > (additional/following page). This happens on all > programs, such as, Kedit, Kmail, Gedit, OOo Writer, > etc. > I use the ">" character to page through the selection. -- Daniel. From satimis at yahoo.com Wed Oct 6 08:16:04 2004 From: satimis at yahoo.com (Stephen Liu) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 16:16:04 +0800 (CST) Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Typing Chinese while keeping the application in English In-Reply-To: <1096995348.3916.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20041006081604.7689.qmail@web40302.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Leon, http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/iiimf-le-xcin-0.1.7-2.i386.rpm > > > > Because it has new version again :-) > Try to delete the filename and then it will list all > the file :) > download iiimf-le-xcin-* > i.e. > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/ I have "iiimf-le-xcin-0.1.7-6.i386.rpm" downloaded # rpm -Uvh iiimf-le-xcin-0.1.7 warning: iiimf-le-xcin-0.1.7-6.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NO error: Failed dependencies: /usr/bin/iiimf-le-tools is needed by iiimf-le-xcin-0.1.7-6 I could not find "iiimf-le-tools" from http://at.rpmfind.net/ http://rpm.pbone.net/ http://www.tuxfinder.com/ and "http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/" seems not working. Please advise where can I get it. TIA B.R. Stephen > > Fedora-i18n-list mailing list > > Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list > > -- > Fedora-i18n-list mailing list > Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list > From meetsandy at gmail.com Tue Oct 12 05:11:40 2004 From: meetsandy at gmail.com (Sandy) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:41:40 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Error Connecting to i18n CVS Message-ID: Hello All, I am trying to download the files from i18 CVS. But I am getting the following ERROR. " HOST DOES NOT EXISTS" My Tortoise CVS has following message =========================================== In C:\Documents and Settings\sandeep\Desktop: "C:\Program Files\TortoiseCVS\cvs.exe" "-q" "-z9" "checkout" "-P" "translate" CVSROOT=:ext:maayboli at i18n.redhat.com:/usr/local/CVS cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) Error, CVS operation failed ==================================================== I am trying to access the CVS from Windows. Do I need to do any configuration. Thanks & Regards Sandy From tagoh at redhat.com Wed Oct 13 05:17:01 2004 From: tagoh at redhat.com (Akira TAGOH) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 14:17:01 +0900 (JST) Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] BUG: IIim stops converting after dialog is displayed in KDE In-Reply-To: <20040929.152253.424245234.tagoh@redhat.com> References: <20040909.151956.233691551.tagoh@redhat.com> <1096368060.14356.193.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> <20040929.152253.424245234.tagoh@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20041013.141701.463487469.tagoh@redhat.com> Hi, >>>>> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:22:53 +0900 (JST), >>>>> "AT" == Akira TAGOH wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 06:41:01 -0400, >>>>> "morpheus" == morpheus wrote: morpheus> I managed to reliably reproduce the bug with the romaji (see below). morpheus> Start a program from command line, such as: morpheus> $ LOCALE=ja_JP quanta morpheus> Inside quanta, the Japanese conversion works fine UNTIL you display a morpheus> dialog box (for example, do a search and replace, etc.). After that, morpheus> instead of getting hiragana, you get romaji and no kanji conversion. AT> Thank you for tracking this down. surely I can reproduce AT> this problem on the latest im-sdk too. AT> I just filed this problem into bugzilla. please see AT> Bug#134039. FYI, this problem should be fixed in 12.0.1-14.svn1943. if you still see this problem, please follow up on #134039 :) Regards, -- Akira TAGOH From morpheus at post.harvard.edu Wed Oct 13 05:54:14 2004 From: morpheus at post.harvard.edu (morpheus) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 01:54:14 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] BUG: IIim stops converting after dialog is displayed in KDE In-Reply-To: <20041013.141701.463487469.tagoh@redhat.com> References: <20040909.151956.233691551.tagoh@redhat.com> <1096368060.14356.193.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> <20040929.152253.424245234.tagoh@redhat.com> <20041013.141701.463487469.tagoh@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1097646854.7490.71.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> Thanks, I'll grab it from svn and let you know how it goes... On Wed, 2004-10-13 at 01:17, Akira TAGOH wrote: > Hi, > > >>>>> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:22:53 +0900 (JST), > >>>>> "AT" == Akira TAGOH wrote: > > >>>>> On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 06:41:01 -0400, > >>>>> "morpheus" == morpheus wrote: > > morpheus> I managed to reliably reproduce the bug with the romaji (see below). > morpheus> Start a program from command line, such as: > > morpheus> $ LOCALE=ja_JP quanta > > morpheus> Inside quanta, the Japanese conversion works fine UNTIL you display a > morpheus> dialog box (for example, do a search and replace, etc.). After that, > morpheus> instead of getting hiragana, you get romaji and no kanji conversion. > > AT> Thank you for tracking this down. surely I can reproduce > AT> this problem on the latest im-sdk too. > AT> I just filed this problem into bugzilla. please see > AT> Bug#134039. > > FYI, this problem should be fixed in 12.0.1-14.svn1943. if > you still see this problem, please follow up on #134039 :) > > Regards, > -- > Akira TAGOH > > -- > Fedora-i18n-list mailing list > Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list From sopwith at redhat.com Wed Oct 6 19:51:08 2004 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 15:51:08 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Fedora Project Mailing Lists reminder Message-ID: This is a reminder of the mailing lists for the Fedora Project, and the purpose of each list. 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If you are interested in helping create releases, this is the list for you. fedora-docs-list - For participants of the docs project fedora-desktop-list - For discussions about desktop issues such as user interfaces, artwork, and usability fedora-config-list - For discussions about the development of configuration tools fedora-legacy-announce - For announcements about the Fedora Legacy Project fedora-legacy-list - For discussions about the Fedora Legacy Project fedora-selinux-list - For discussions about the Fedora SELinux Project fedora-de-list - For discussions about Fedora in the German language fedora-es-list - For discussions about Fedora in the Spanish language fedora-ja-list - For discussions about Fedora in the Japanese language fedora-i18n-list - For discussions about the internationalization of Fedora Core fedora-trans-list - For discussions about translating the software and documentation associated with the Fedora Project German: fedora-trans-de French: fedora-trans-fr Spanish: fedora-trans-es Italian: fedora-trans-it Brazilian Portuguese: fedora-trans-pt_br Japanese: fedora-trans-ja Korean: fedora-trans-ko Simplified Chinese: fedora-trans-zh_cn Traditional Chinese: fedora-trans-zh_tw From morpheus at post.harvard.edu Thu Oct 14 03:50:53 2004 From: morpheus at post.harvard.edu (morpheus) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 23:50:53 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] BUG: IIim stops converting after dialog is displayed in KDE In-Reply-To: <20041013.141701.463487469.tagoh@redhat.com> References: <20040909.151956.233691551.tagoh@redhat.com> <1096368060.14356.193.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> <20040929.152253.424245234.tagoh@redhat.com> <20041013.141701.463487469.tagoh@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1097725853.7382.7.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> Hi, I got the latest svn and successfully built and installed all the modules, but there doesn't seem to be any script in /etc/init.d/ to start the services. Should i just use the same script from my 10. release? What processes do I need to launch and how should I launch them? -James On Wed, 2004-10-13 at 01:17, Akira TAGOH wrote: > Hi, > > >>>>> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:22:53 +0900 (JST), > >>>>> "AT" == Akira TAGOH wrote: > > >>>>> On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 06:41:01 -0400, > >>>>> "morpheus" == morpheus wrote: > > morpheus> I managed to reliably reproduce the bug with the romaji (see below). > morpheus> Start a program from command line, such as: > > morpheus> $ LOCALE=ja_JP quanta > > morpheus> Inside quanta, the Japanese conversion works fine UNTIL you display a > morpheus> dialog box (for example, do a search and replace, etc.). After that, > morpheus> instead of getting hiragana, you get romaji and no kanji conversion. > > AT> Thank you for tracking this down. surely I can reproduce > AT> this problem on the latest im-sdk too. > AT> I just filed this problem into bugzilla. please see > AT> Bug#134039. > > FYI, this problem should be fixed in 12.0.1-14.svn1943. if > you still see this problem, please follow up on #134039 :) > > Regards, > -- > Akira TAGOH > > -- > Fedora-i18n-list mailing list > Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list From tagoh at redhat.com Thu Oct 14 17:22:04 2004 From: tagoh at redhat.com (Akira TAGOH) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 02:22:04 +0900 (JST) Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] BUG: IIim stops converting after dialog is displayed in KDE In-Reply-To: <1097725853.7382.7.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> References: <20040929.152253.424245234.tagoh@redhat.com> <20041013.141701.463487469.tagoh@redhat.com> <1097725853.7382.7.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> Message-ID: <20041015.022204.273206559.tagoh@redhat.com> >>>>> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 23:50:53 -0400, >>>>> "morpheus" == morpheus wrote: morpheus> Hi, morpheus> I got the latest svn and successfully built and installed all the morpheus> modules, but there doesn't seem to be any script in /etc/init.d/ to morpheus> start the services. Should i just use the same script from my 10. morpheus> release? What processes do I need to launch and how should I launch morpheus> them? You could just download the package from rawhide. -- Akira TAGOH From morpheus at post.harvard.edu Thu Oct 14 22:09:34 2004 From: morpheus at post.harvard.edu (morpheus) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:09:34 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] BUG: IIim stops converting after dialog is displayed in KDE In-Reply-To: <20041015.022204.273206559.tagoh@redhat.com> References: <20040929.152253.424245234.tagoh@redhat.com> <20041013.141701.463487469.tagoh@redhat.com> <1097725853.7382.7.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> <20041015.022204.273206559.tagoh@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1097791774.7382.9.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> Is there a way to get ONLY the iiimf packages from rawhide? Last time I used rawhide, I ended up with unstable versions of everything... Thanks, James On Thu, 2004-10-14 at 13:22, Akira TAGOH wrote: > >>>>> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 23:50:53 -0400, > >>>>> "morpheus" == morpheus wrote: > > morpheus> Hi, > morpheus> I got the latest svn and successfully built and installed all the > morpheus> modules, but there doesn't seem to be any script in /etc/init.d/ to > morpheus> start the services. Should i just use the same script from my 10. > morpheus> release? What processes do I need to launch and how should I launch > morpheus> them? > > You could just download the package from rawhide. > > -- > Akira TAGOH > > -- > Fedora-i18n-list mailing list > Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list From tagoh at redhat.com Fri Oct 15 07:45:45 2004 From: tagoh at redhat.com (Akira TAGOH) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:45:45 +0900 (JST) Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] BUG: IIim stops converting after dialog is displayed in KDE In-Reply-To: <1097791774.7382.9.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> References: <1097725853.7382.7.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> <20041015.022204.273206559.tagoh@redhat.com> <1097791774.7382.9.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> Message-ID: <20041015.164545.856989017.tagoh@redhat.com> >>>>> On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:09:34 -0400, >>>>> "morpheus" == morpheus wrote: morpheus> Is there a way to get ONLY the iiimf packages from rawhide? Last time I morpheus> used rawhide, I ended up with unstable versions of everything... morpheus> Thanks, morpheus> James how about just downloading the im-sdk packages manually from http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/, but not via yum or apt? -- Akira TAGOH From hongzl at optonline.net Fri Oct 15 16:57:12 2004 From: hongzl at optonline.net (Hong Zhang) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:57:12 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] How the fedora recognize the network card? Message-ID: <000801b8152a$3561cbe0$cebcc044@home2f1w9ilp58> Hi, I have a problem in my linux now. I just installed fedora in my local E drive(local C drive is installed with Windows OS). But the problem is fedora cannot see the other machines in the network. It can detect the network card, but when I activate the network card, it fails. What's the configuration should I do? Hong Zhnag -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From morpheus at post.harvard.edu Sat Oct 16 11:37:05 2004 From: morpheus at post.harvard.edu (morpheus) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 07:37:05 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] BUG: IIim stops converting after dialog is displayed in KDE In-Reply-To: <20041015.164545.856989017.tagoh@redhat.com> References: <1097725853.7382.7.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> <20041015.022204.273206559.tagoh@redhat.com> <1097791774.7382.9.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> <20041015.164545.856989017.tagoh@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1097926625.10851.4.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> Thanks, I installed all the RPMs beginning with iiimf- and also initrc and canna. Unfortunately, now I cannot input Japanese at all in Quanta or other KDE apps. I press "CTRL-SPACE" and nothing happens. I can input Japanese to Gnome apps like mozilla and gedit. Can you send me a copy of your /etc/init.d/IIim script? I may have a problem with mine. Do I need to do anything else special to get it to work with KDE apps? -James On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 03:45, Akira TAGOH wrote: > >>>>> On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:09:34 -0400, > >>>>> "morpheus" == morpheus wrote: > > morpheus> Is there a way to get ONLY the iiimf packages from rawhide? Last time I > morpheus> used rawhide, I ended up with unstable versions of everything... > morpheus> Thanks, > morpheus> James > > how about just downloading the im-sdk packages manually from > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/, > but not via yum or apt? > > -- > Akira TAGOH > > -- > Fedora-i18n-list mailing list > Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list From morpheus at post.harvard.edu Sat Oct 16 12:23:15 2004 From: morpheus at post.harvard.edu (morpheus) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 08:23:15 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] BUG: IIim stops converting after dialog is displayed in KDE In-Reply-To: <1097926625.10851.4.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> References: <1097725853.7382.7.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> <20041015.022204.273206559.tagoh@redhat.com> <1097791774.7382.9.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> <20041015.164545.856989017.tagoh@redhat.com> <1097926625.10851.4.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> Message-ID: <1097929395.3920.1.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> Sorry, my mistake. Restarting X solved the problem with KDE applications. Also, the bug seems to be fixed. After displaying a dialog box, I can still convert to Kanji. Thanks for the help. The only KDE app I can't get IIimf to work with is Konsole...do I need to do anything special to make it work? CTRL-SPACE is just ignored. Cheers, James On Sat, 2004-10-16 at 07:37, morpheus wrote: > Thanks, I installed all the RPMs beginning with iiimf- and also initrc > and canna. > Unfortunately, now I cannot input Japanese at all in Quanta or other KDE > apps. I press "CTRL-SPACE" and nothing happens. I can input Japanese > to Gnome apps like mozilla and gedit. > Can you send me a copy of your /etc/init.d/IIim script? I may have a > problem with mine. Do I need to do anything else special to get it to > work with KDE apps? > -James > > On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 03:45, Akira TAGOH wrote: > > >>>>> On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:09:34 -0400, > > >>>>> "morpheus" == morpheus wrote: > > > > morpheus> Is there a way to get ONLY the iiimf packages from rawhide? Last time I > > morpheus> used rawhide, I ended up with unstable versions of everything... > > morpheus> Thanks, > > morpheus> James > > > > how about just downloading the im-sdk packages manually from > > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/, > > but not via yum or apt? > > > > -- > > Akira TAGOH > > > > -- > > Fedora-i18n-list mailing list > > Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list > > -- > Fedora-i18n-list mailing list > Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list From tagoh at redhat.com Tue Oct 19 07:41:14 2004 From: tagoh at redhat.com (Akira TAGOH) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:41:14 +0900 (JST) Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] BUG: IIim stops converting after dialog is displayed in KDE In-Reply-To: <1097929395.3920.1.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> References: <20041015.164545.856989017.tagoh@redhat.com> <1097926625.10851.4.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> <1097929395.3920.1.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> Message-ID: <20041019.164114.882034484.tagoh@redhat.com> >>>>> On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 08:23:15 -0400, >>>>> "morpheus" == morpheus wrote: morpheus> Sorry, my mistake. Restarting X solved the problem with KDE morpheus> applications. morpheus> Also, the bug seems to be fixed. After displaying a dialog box, I can morpheus> still convert to Kanji. Thanks for the help. morpheus> The only KDE app I can't get IIimf to work with is Konsole...do I need morpheus> to do anything special to make it work? CTRL-SPACE is just ignored. It Works For Me(TM) have you seen running httx? and/or did you have XMODIFIERS=@im=htt? -- Akira TAGOH From llch at redhat.com Tue Oct 19 08:09:45 2004 From: llch at redhat.com (Leon Ho) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:09:45 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] Typing Chinese while keeping the application in English In-Reply-To: <20041006081604.7689.qmail@web40302.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20041006081604.7689.qmail@web40302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1098173386.3989.22.camel@windcloud.brisbane.redhat.com> Hi, > > Because it has new version again :-) > > Try to delete the filename and then it will list all > > the file :) > > download iiimf-le-xcin-* > > i.e. > > > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/Fedora/RPMS/ Please try the latest pkg in iiimf-le-xcin. I have removed the optional requires along with couple of fixes. Regards, Leon From morpheus at post.harvard.edu Tue Oct 19 11:11:29 2004 From: morpheus at post.harvard.edu (morpheus) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:11:29 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] BUG: IIim stops converting after dialog is displayed in KDE In-Reply-To: <20041019.164114.882034484.tagoh@redhat.com> References: <20041015.164545.856989017.tagoh@redhat.com> <1097926625.10851.4.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> <1097929395.3920.1.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> <20041019.164114.882034484.tagoh@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1098184289.9607.2.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> Yes, httx is running, and XMODIFIERS is set. I tried restarting konsole with LOCALE=ja_JP konsole but still doesn't work. Is there a konsole configuration setting I need to make? ??Evolution??Mozilla?????????????????? On Tue, 2004-10-19 at 03:41, Akira TAGOH wrote: > >>>>> On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 08:23:15 -0400, > >>>>> "morpheus" == morpheus wrote: > > morpheus> Sorry, my mistake. Restarting X solved the problem with KDE > morpheus> applications. > morpheus> Also, the bug seems to be fixed. After displaying a dialog box, I can > morpheus> still convert to Kanji. Thanks for the help. > morpheus> The only KDE app I can't get IIimf to work with is Konsole...do I need > morpheus> to do anything special to make it work? CTRL-SPACE is just ignored. > > It Works For Me(TM) have you seen running httx? and/or did > you have XMODIFIERS=@im=htt? > > -- > Akira TAGOH > > -- > Fedora-i18n-list mailing list > Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list From tagoh at redhat.com Wed Oct 20 11:55:03 2004 From: tagoh at redhat.com (Akira TAGOH) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:55:03 +0900 (JST) Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] BUG: IIim stops converting after dialog is displayed in KDE In-Reply-To: <1098184289.9607.2.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> References: <1097929395.3920.1.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> <20041019.164114.882034484.tagoh@redhat.com> <1098184289.9607.2.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> Message-ID: <20041020.205503.607988907.tagoh@redhat.com> >>>>> On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:11:29 -0400, >>>>> "morpheus" == morpheus wrote: morpheus> Yes, httx is running, and XMODIFIERS is set. I tried restarting konsole morpheus> with LOCALE=ja_JP konsole but still doesn't work. Is there a konsole morpheus> configuration setting I need to make? Ah, it's because ja_JP is an alias for ja_JP.eucJP. but httx is running on ja_JP.UTF-8. you really need to run the applications on the same locale to use with XIM. #include #include #include int main(int argc, char **argv) { setlocale (LC_ALL, ""); printf ("%s\n", nl_langinfo (CODESET)); return 0; } $ LANG=ja_JP ./li EUC-JP $ LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 ./li UTF-8 -- Akira TAGOH From morpheus at post.harvard.edu Fri Oct 22 16:52:17 2004 From: morpheus at post.harvard.edu (morpheus) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:52:17 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] BUG: IIim stops converting after dialog is displayed in KDE In-Reply-To: <20041020.205503.607988907.tagoh@redhat.com> References: <1097929395.3920.1.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> <20041019.164114.882034484.tagoh@redhat.com> <1098184289.9607.2.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> <20041020.205503.607988907.tagoh@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1098463937.3784.164.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> Hi, thanks for the help. I have some additional questions and bugs to report. First, I don't see a script called "li" anywhere on my system. I did a find / -name li, and got two hits: /usr/share/locale/l10n/li /usr/share/locale/li Both are directories. So, where do I run LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 ./li from? Also, I have a question. When I type quickly in English I am constantly accidentally hitting SHIFT-SPACE and activating Japanese input. CTRL-SPACE also works...how do I turn off SHIFT-SPACE and leave only CTRL-SPACE? Finally, I have noticed what seems like a bug, as follows: When running Open Office Writer: When I press the HOME key, I get a settings menu, but there doesn't seem to be a way to cancel this. I tried ESC and many other keys. I have to turn off conversion to cancel it. This doesn't happen in other programs like Mozilla, Evolution or Quanta. Thanks for the help. James On Wed, 2004-10-20 at 07:55, Akira TAGOH wrote: > >>>>> On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:11:29 -0400, > >>>>> "morpheus" == morpheus wrote: > > morpheus> Yes, httx is running, and XMODIFIERS is set. I tried restarting konsole > morpheus> with LOCALE=ja_JP konsole but still doesn't work. Is there a konsole > morpheus> configuration setting I need to make? > > Ah, it's because ja_JP is an alias for ja_JP.eucJP. but httx > is running on ja_JP.UTF-8. you really need to run the > applications on the same locale to use with XIM. > > #include > #include > #include > > int main(int argc, char **argv) > { > setlocale (LC_ALL, ""); > printf ("%s\n", nl_langinfo (CODESET)); > return 0; > } > > $ LANG=ja_JP ./li > EUC-JP > $ LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 ./li > UTF-8 > > -- > Akira TAGOH > > -- > Fedora-i18n-list mailing list > Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list From tagoh at redhat.com Mon Oct 25 08:06:16 2004 From: tagoh at redhat.com (Akira TAGOH) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:06:16 +0900 (JST) Subject: [Fedora-i18n-list] BUG: IIim stops converting after dialog is displayed in KDE In-Reply-To: <1098463937.3784.164.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> References: <1098184289.9607.2.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> <20041020.205503.607988907.tagoh@redhat.com> <1098463937.3784.164.camel@test.totalinfosecurity.com> Message-ID: <20041025.170616.28816186.tagoh@redhat.com> >>>>> On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:52:17 -0400, >>>>> "morpheus" == morpheus wrote: morpheus> Hi, thanks for the help. I have some additional questions and bugs to morpheus> report. morpheus> First, I don't see a script called "li" anywhere on my system. I did a morpheus> find / -name li, and got two hits: morpheus> /usr/share/locale/l10n/li morpheus> /usr/share/locale/li morpheus> Both are directories. So, where do I run LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 ./li from? build a source code in my previous mail by yourself. as I mentioned the reason for that, there should be no difference between yours and mine anyway, though. i.e. you have to run the applications on ja_JP.UTF-8 instead of ja_JP anyway. morpheus> Also, I have a question. When I type quickly in English I am constantly morpheus> accidentally hitting SHIFT-SPACE and activating Japanese input. morpheus> CTRL-SPACE also works...how do I turn off SHIFT-SPACE and leave only morpheus> CTRL-SPACE? no way to do it right now. morpheus> Finally, I have noticed what seems like a bug, as follows: morpheus> When running Open Office Writer: morpheus> When I press the HOME key, I get a settings menu, but there doesn't seem morpheus> to be a way to cancel this. I tried ESC and many other keys. I have to morpheus> turn off conversion to cancel it. This doesn't happen in other programs morpheus> like Mozilla, Evolution or Quanta. You could cancel it with Backspace, ctrl+g etc as it could be on kinput2. or though I've fixed this problem on Canna (and hopefully it will be available soon), you can fix this problem by adding the folow line into /etc/canna/default.canna, and restart cannaserver: (global-set-key "\Escape" 'quit) Regards, -- Akira TAGOH