From m.schoenitzer at maxi-dsl.de Wed Sep 5 17:36:33 2007 From: m.schoenitzer at maxi-dsl.de (Michael =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sch=F6nitzer?=) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:36:33 +0200 Subject: Translation: final spurt Message-ID: <1189013795.2635.14.camel@fc6.schoenitzer> Hello everyone! The Stringfreeze for Fedora 8 was on September the 25. In 20 days the Translationfreeze will be to. So, now we've to hurry, to get Fedora translated into other languages! For some languages there are big parts missing - others are nearly complete. So, PLEASE look at the status of your language and (if it's not already completed) improve the translation. Translation an software (in this case fedora) is one of the most imported actions, for making it user-friendly. Greatings, Michael -- Michael F. Sch?nitzer Mail: michael at schoenitzer.de Homepage: http://www.schoenitzer.de Jabber: Schoenitzer at jabber.ccc.de/Home ICQ: 294808517 Magdalenenstra?e 29 80638 M?nchen Tel: 089/152315 From petersen at redhat.com Wed Sep 19 12:55:01 2007 From: petersen at redhat.com (Jens Petersen) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:55:01 +1000 Subject: I18n Bug Event Message-ID: <46F11C25.7060606@redhat.com> The Fedora I18n team is hosting a Fedora i18n bug event starting this Friday: When? We will start with an all day bug squashing event during 2007-09-20 23:00 UTC to 2007-09-21 12:00 UTC, and continue the effort until the Test3 devel freeze is due to start on Tuesday. What? We will basically be focusing on bugs from this list: but if you have other urgent issues related to i18n that you believe need addressing for F8 you're welcome to bring those along to discuss. How to help? (see ) Bugzilla: unless you just want to ask questions you'll need a bugzilla account of course: see the above link. IRC: Freenode #fedora-i18n (people from the I18n Team should be online Friday (at least during 2007-09-20 23:00 UTC to 2007-09-21 12:00) and also on Monday - during the weekend it may be more sporadic but please hang around if you can) QA/Testing: install Test2 or current Fedora development (rawhide) and helping to test and triage bugs, reporting problems, etc. Mailing-list: fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com - bugzilla is the preferred place for discussion but if you can't join us or find us on irc, or are unsure about something and have questions feel free to ask on the mailing-list. Goal? This event is taking place just before the the F8 Test3 freeze in order to improve the quality of the F8 release and help close/move more i18n bugs before the final devel freeze. Hope you will be able to join us and help squash those bugs. :-) Have fun, Jens From wtogami at redhat.com Thu Sep 20 19:21:02 2007 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:21:02 -0400 Subject: Volunteer Needed: fedora-i18n-list Admin In-Reply-To: <22ce560a0706270932k776992e7x2ce9c4fa631d96ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <46814F20.3040602@redhat.com> <22ce560a0706270932k776992e7x2ce9c4fa631d96ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46F2C81E.6030400@redhat.com> Are you or anyone else still interested in moderating this list? Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com ???? ??? (makuchaku) wrote: > Hi Warren, > > I would like to take up this responsibility. Having personally worked > with Jens, it would be wonderfull to co-moderate fedora-i18n-list with > him. > > Thanks, > Makuchaku > http://www.makuchaku.info/blog > > -- > Replied from Nokia E61 > -- > > On 6/26/07, Warren Togami wrote: >> Anyone here want to be a list admin for fedora-i18n-list? >> >> I would prefer to give list ownership to someone who is already a >> developer within the Fedora Project. When accepted you will become >> co-owner of this list along with Jens Petersen. >> >> Warren Togami >> wtogami at redhat.com >> >> -- >> Fedora-i18n-list mailing list >> Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list >> > > -- > Fedora-i18n-list mailing list > Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list From amjad_a_khan at yahoo.com Thu Sep 20 19:37:34 2007 From: amjad_a_khan at yahoo.com (Amjad Khan) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Volunteer Needed: fedora-i18n-list Admin In-Reply-To: <46F2C81E.6030400@redhat.com> Message-ID: <42981.6908.qm@web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi, i am interested in become Volunteer for the need , please let me know how i will be useful for the Fedora team regards amjad Warren Togami wrote: Are you or anyone else still interested in moderating this list? Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com ???????????? ????????? (makuchaku) wrote: > Hi Warren, > > I would like to take up this responsibility. Having personally worked > with Jens, it would be wonderfull to co-moderate fedora-i18n-list with > him. > > Thanks, > Makuchaku > http://www.makuchaku.info/blog > > -- > Replied from Nokia E61 > -- > > On 6/26/07, Warren Togami wrote: >> Anyone here want to be a list admin for fedora-i18n-list? >> >> I would prefer to give list ownership to someone who is already a >> developer within the Fedora Project. When accepted you will become >> co-owner of this list along with Jens Petersen. >> >> Warren Togami >> wtogami at redhat.com >> >> -- >> Fedora-i18n-list mailing list >> Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list >> > > -- > Fedora-i18n-list mailing list > Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list -- Fedora-i18n-list mailing list Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimitris at glezos.com Fri Sep 21 03:24:57 2007 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 04:24:57 +0100 Subject: [Long] Do we need a font SIG ? In-Reply-To: <46F337B2.9000104@redhat.com> References: <6148.192.54.193.51.1189770715.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <46F337B2.9000104@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1190345097.7976.33.camel@shuttle> ???? 20-09-2007, ????? ???, ??? ??? 23:17 -0400, ?/? M?ir?n Duffy ??????: > Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > I created a mockup wiki page to try to make all this clear > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NicolasMailhot/FontMatrix > > It's far from complete, but I hope it's complete enough to give > > everyone an idea of the potential SIG scope. > > > > So, who wants to play? Is Fedora ready for a font SIG or should I ask > > again next year? > > I'm in! Let's not let this thread die! Who else is in? I'm definitely in. -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Fri Sep 14 11:51:55 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:51:55 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Long] Do we need a font SIG ? Message-ID: <6148.192.54.193.51.1189770715.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Hi all [I wanted to prepare a bit more before writing this, but it seems everyone is asking about the same things at once, so this will have to do] I'd like know what people think of setting up a font SIG, and if there are enough would-be contributors for such a SIG to be viable. Fonts are a very transversal subject in Fedora, and the initial To: list reflects this. Please take care to reply on fedora-devel only however. The situation right now is: 1. we have several font packages in Fedora, but are only scratching what could be packaged. http://mihmo.livejournal.com/45152.html 2. In particular the art team wants a lot more fonts in for its Art spin http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ArtTeamProjects/FedoraArtStudio 3. I don't believe our font selection is optimal for every locale. It took a near-revolt by our Greek users to get their situation fixed in Fedora Core 6, and there are probably many other problem locales, where users just pass on Fedora or bear their pain silently instead of telling us about problems. 4. The i18n team is nominally in charge of selecting the best fonts for each locale, but does not always have the right local contacts to do so. So far i18n has focused on technical problems : if your locale needs complex IM methods you have i18n visibility, if your locale poses no technical challenge but your default fonts are suboptimal the i18n team may not notice you. 4. The l10n team has local contacts and could provide useful feedback on font choices, currently packaged font problems, local foundries/font designers that could be contacted to contribute to the FLOSS font pool, etc but has mostly focused on translation so far. 5. The desktop team handles our font infrastructure and takes the heat when a font is badly rendered (since we can not use the patented freetype autohinter many fonts that work fine under windows do not under Fedora) 6. We already have some font-related material disseminated on our wiki: - packaging rules, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ScriptletSnippets#head-4863fc4c93cec14292719d8901d83f5d90c3e477 - licensing rules http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing#head-63f9d798a33b23a752e5a3b22a0888046d4cb8d8 - other http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fonts/DejaVu 7. The font situation is bad enough we have a font exception to our FLOSS rules http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#head-daa717ea096fa4d9cf7b9a49b5edb36e3bda3aac [for example we ship Luxi even though its licensing forbids modification, making it non-free http://www.xfree86.org/current/LICENSE11.html] 8. There are efforts to drain the font licensing swamp and promote FLOSS fonts (http://unifont.org/go_for_ofl/), they are aligned with Fedora general objectives yet Fedora has totally ignored them so far (cf Liberation licensing choices) This is a stark contrast with the very active debian font team : http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/GUIFonts The main part of the OLPC font page is the Debian font list! http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Fonts I believe there is enough interest in the various Fedora groups to improve the current situation through a font SIG. This SIG would be tasked with: A. providing a single point of entry for Fedora people interested in fonts, centralizing all our packaging rules or at least indexing them in a single place B. completing the existing font packaging documentation C. helping the i18n team maintain the font install list for each locale D. identifying fonts worthy of packaging for l10n or art reasons E. identifying problems in existing font packages and helping relay the info upstream F. identifying problems in our font infrastructure, packaging necessary font tools G. coordinating and effectively packaging new fonts As the current maintainer of dejavu, and a co-maintainer of charis and dejavu-lgc, I am ready to write a commented font spec example (B) (without legacy core font bits, which IMHO should be optional nowadays ; however I'm sure there are people ready and willing to write this part as an extension), and package a few fonts (G). The l10n and i18n groups are naturals for (C). We just have to steal the Debian receipe of having a font-by-locale table in our wiki. I think it's pretty obvious the art team is motivated by (E). IMHO the l10n team should have a role there too. Note that doing the legal analysis of a potential font is far from easy as font licensing practices are far less clean than software licensing practices. Also we should try to build font from sources whenever possible, but font building is often a mess. G will demand packagers and reviewers. By nature most of them will be active in other Fedora forums, so we're not talking of a few full-time SIG members but a lot of part-time contributors. I created a mockup wiki page to try to make all this clear http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NicolasMailhot/FontMatrix It's far from complete, but I hope it's complete enough to give everyone an idea of the potential SIG scope. So, who wants to play? Is Fedora ready for a font SIG or should I ask again next year? Kind regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot From chouy at ematters.com.tw Fri Sep 21 07:08:16 2007 From: chouy at ematters.com.tw (Tina Chou) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:08:16 +0800 Subject: F7 SCIM and StarDict problem In-Reply-To: <20070921062501.M56745@ematters.com.tw> References: <20070921031127.M93234@ematters.com.tw> <20070921062501.M56745@ematters.com.tw> Message-ID: <20070921070728.M54533@ematters.com.tw> Hi, Recently I experienced some SCIM problems F7. The first problem is that I can't switch to any IM in StarDict. It doesn't show any feedback to me, not even a space. Therefore, I can only do Chinese-English translation by pasting Chinese characters in it. ************************* The next problem is about ZhuYin????and CangJie version 5???????. In their menu, Korea characters shows up at the front somehow (but they used to be at the end). I first noticed this problem when I updated scim in FC6?2007-05-21). At that time, I updated it to: scim-tables-0.5.7-2.1.fc6 scim-tables-chinese-0.5.7-2.1.fc6 So I restored to an older version, which Traditional Chinese shows first in the menu: scim-tables-0.5.6-7.i386.rpm scim-tables-chinese-0.5.6-7.i386.rpm Now, when I am in F7, one of my machines has this problem again, but another one doesn't. They have the same SCIM version as below: scim-m17n-0.2.1-1.fc7 scim-bridge-0.4.10-1.fc7 scim-1.4.5-21.fc7 scim-tables-0.5.7-3.fc7 scim-chewing-0.3.1-9.fc7 scim-anthy-1.2.4-1.fc7 scim-tables-chinese-0.5.7-3.fc7 scim-bridge-gtk-0.4.10-1.fc7 scim-libs-1.4.5-21.fc7 scim-pinyin-0.5.91-16.fc7 Do I miss anything in SCIM? Thank you. --------------------- Tina chouy at ematters.com.tw From zhu at redhat.com Fri Sep 21 09:10:52 2007 From: zhu at redhat.com (Hu Zheng) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:10:52 +0800 Subject: F7 SCIM and StarDict problem In-Reply-To: <20070921070728.M54533@ematters.com.tw> References: <20070921031127.M93234@ematters.com.tw> <20070921062501.M56745@ematters.com.tw> <20070921070728.M54533@ematters.com.tw> Message-ID: <1190365853.3555.1.camel@dhcp-0-163.pek.redhat.com> Does the first problem happen on other gtk software too? If so, it is scim's problem and not related to StarDict. ? 2007-09-21?? 15:08 +0800?Tina Chou??? > Hi, > > Recently I experienced some SCIM problems F7. > > The first problem is that I can't switch to any IM in StarDict. It doesn't > show any feedback to me, not even a space. Therefore, I can only do > Chinese-English translation by pasting Chinese characters in it. > > ************************* > > The next problem is about ZhuYin????and CangJie version 5???????. > In their menu, Korea characters shows up at the front somehow (but they used > to be at the end). > > I first noticed this problem when I updated scim in FC6?2007-05-21). At that > time, I updated it to: > scim-tables-0.5.7-2.1.fc6 > scim-tables-chinese-0.5.7-2.1.fc6 > > So I restored to an older version, which Traditional Chinese shows first in > the menu: > scim-tables-0.5.6-7.i386.rpm > scim-tables-chinese-0.5.6-7.i386.rpm > > Now, when I am in F7, one of my machines has this problem again, but another > one doesn't. They have the same SCIM version as below: > > scim-m17n-0.2.1-1.fc7 > scim-bridge-0.4.10-1.fc7 > scim-1.4.5-21.fc7 > scim-tables-0.5.7-3.fc7 > scim-chewing-0.3.1-9.fc7 > scim-anthy-1.2.4-1.fc7 > scim-tables-chinese-0.5.7-3.fc7 > scim-bridge-gtk-0.4.10-1.fc7 > scim-libs-1.4.5-21.fc7 > scim-pinyin-0.5.91-16.fc7 > > Do I miss anything in SCIM? > > Thank you. > > --------------------- > Tina > chouy at ematters.com.tw > > -- > Fedora-i18n-list mailing list > Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list From chouy at ematters.com.tw Fri Sep 21 09:27:31 2007 From: chouy at ematters.com.tw (Tina Chou) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:27:31 +0800 Subject: F7 SCIM and StarDict problem In-Reply-To: <1190365853.3555.1.camel@dhcp-0-163.pek.redhat.com> References: <20070921031127.M93234@ematters.com.tw> <20070921062501.M56745@ematters.com.tw> <20070921070728.M54533@ematters.com.tw> <1190365853.3555.1.camel@dhcp-0-163.pek.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20070921092655.M78194@ematters.com.tw> Hi, I just tried to type Chinese in gimp and it worked. Do I need to test on any other software? Tina On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:10:52 +0800, Hu Zheng wrote > Does the first problem happen on other gtk software too? If so, it is > scim's problem and not related to StarDict. > > ? 2007-09-21?? 15:08 +0800?Tina Chou??? > > Hi, > > > > Recently I experienced some SCIM problems F7. > > > > The first problem is that I can't switch to any IM in StarDict. It doesn't > > show any feedback to me, not even a space. Therefore, I can only do > > Chinese-English translation by pasting Chinese characters in it. > > > > ************************* > > > > The next problem is about ZhuYin????and CangJie version 5???????. > > In their menu, Korea characters shows up at the front somehow (but they used > > to be at the end). > > > > I first noticed this problem when I updated scim in FC6?2007-05-21). At that > > time, I updated it to: > > scim-tables-0.5.7-2.1.fc6 > > scim-tables-chinese-0.5.7-2.1.fc6 > > > > So I restored to an older version, which Traditional Chinese shows first in > > the menu: > > scim-tables-0.5.6-7.i386.rpm > > scim-tables-chinese-0.5.6-7.i386.rpm > > > > Now, when I am in F7, one of my machines has this problem again, but another > > one doesn't. They have the same SCIM version as below: > > > > scim-m17n-0.2.1-1.fc7 > > scim-bridge-0.4.10-1.fc7 > > scim-1.4.5-21.fc7 > > scim-tables-0.5.7-3.fc7 > > scim-chewing-0.3.1-9.fc7 > > scim-anthy-1.2.4-1.fc7 > > scim-tables-chinese-0.5.7-3.fc7 > > scim-bridge-gtk-0.4.10-1.fc7 > > scim-libs-1.4.5-21.fc7 > > scim-pinyin-0.5.91-16.fc7 > > > > Do I miss anything in SCIM? > > > > Thank you. > > > > --------------------- > > Tina > > chouy at ematters.com.tw > > > > -- > > Fedora-i18n-list mailing list > > Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list From petersen at redhat.com Fri Sep 21 09:44:06 2007 From: petersen at redhat.com (Jens Petersen) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:44:06 +1000 Subject: F7 SCIM and StarDict problem In-Reply-To: <20070921092655.M78194@ematters.com.tw> References: <20070921031127.M93234@ematters.com.tw> <20070921062501.M56745@ematters.com.tw> <20070921070728.M54533@ematters.com.tw> <1190365853.3555.1.camel@dhcp-0-163.pek.redhat.com> <20070921092655.M78194@ematters.com.tw> Message-ID: <46F39266.9060005@redhat.com> Tina Chou ????????: > I just tried to type Chinese in gimp and it worked. I can input Japanese ok anyway with stardict-3.0.0-3.fc7. Which input method are you using with scim? scim-tables-chinese? > On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:10:52 +0800, Hu Zheng wrote >>> The next problem is about ZhuYin????and CangJie version 5???????. >>> In their menu, Korea characters shows up at the front somehow (but they used >>> to be at the end). Which fonts do you have installed? What is the output of "rpm -qa fonts-\* | sort"? Jens From chouy at ematters.com.tw Fri Sep 21 10:07:39 2007 From: chouy at ematters.com.tw (Tina Chou) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:07:39 +0800 Subject: F7 SCIM and StarDict problem In-Reply-To: <20070921095909.M32929@ematters.com.tw> References: <20070921031127.M93234@ematters.com.tw> <20070921062501.M56745@ematters.com.tw> <20070921070728.M54533@ematters.com.tw> <1190365853.3555.1.camel@dhcp-0-163.pek.redhat.com> <20070921092655.M78194@ematters.com.tw> <46F39266.9060005@redhat.com> <20070921094307.M69270@ematters.com.tw> <20070921095909.M32929@ematters.com.tw> Message-ID: <20070921100607.M38370@ematters.com.tw> Hi, The answer is on the below. Thank you. Tina > From: Jens Petersen > To: chouy at ematters.com.tw, Fedora internationalization discussions > > Cc: Hu Zheng > Sent: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:44:06 +1000 > Subject: Re: F7 SCIM and StarDict problem > > Tina Chou ????????: > > I just tried to type Chinese in gimp and it worked. > > I can input Japanese ok anyway with stardict-3.0.0-3.fc7. > Which input method are you using with scim? scim-tables-chinese? Yes I'm using scim-tables-chinese. But I can't even switch to any IM in scim. > > > On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:10:52 +0800, Hu Zheng wrote > >>> The next problem is about ZhuYin????and CangJie version 5???????. > >>> In their menu, Korea characters shows up at the front somehow (but they used > >>> to be at the end). > > Which fonts do you have installed? > > What is the output of "rpm -qa fonts-\* | sort"? Here's what I got running rpm -qa fonts-\* | sort: fonts-chinese-3.03-4.fc7 fonts-japanese-0.20061016-6.fc7 > > Jens From petersen at redhat.com Fri Sep 21 12:14:03 2007 From: petersen at redhat.com (Jens Petersen) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:14:03 +1000 Subject: F7 SCIM and StarDict problem In-Reply-To: <20070921100607.M38370@ematters.com.tw> References: <20070921031127.M93234@ematters.com.tw> <20070921062501.M56745@ematters.com.tw> <20070921070728.M54533@ematters.com.tw> <1190365853.3555.1.camel@dhcp-0-163.pek.redhat.com> <20070921092655.M78194@ematters.com.tw> <46F39266.9060005@redhat.com> <20070921094307.M69270@ematters.com.tw> <20070921095909.M32929@ematters.com.tw> <20070921100607.M38370@ematters.com.tw> Message-ID: <46F3B58B.3020808@redhat.com> Tina Chou wrote: > Yes I'm using scim-tables-chinese. > But I can't even switch to any IM in scim. in stardict, right? Which stardict package are you running? >>>>> The next problem is about ZhuYin????and CangJie version 5???????. >>>>> In their menu, Korea characters shows up at the front somehow (but they used >>>>> to be at the end). >> Which fonts do you have installed? > > Here's what I got running rpm -qa fonts-\* | sort: > fonts-chinese-3.03-4.fc7 > fonts-japanese-0.20061016-6.fc7 I suggest to uninstall fonts-japanese if you don't need it (particularly if you're running your desktop in English say). Jens From wtogami at redhat.com Mon Sep 24 19:28:34 2007 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:28:34 -0400 Subject: aspell-fo version problem Message-ID: <46F80FE2.3000404@redhat.com> * Mon Sep 17 2007 Ivana Varekova - 50:0.2.16-1 - update to 0.2.16 * Thu Mar 29 2007 Ivana Varekova - 50:0.51-6 - add documentation F7 > F8 (50:0.51-6.fc7 > 50:0.2.16-6.fc8) What's going on here? Upgrades from F7 to F8 will fail because RPM thinks the version in F8 is "older". Please fix this, or bump epoch on the F8 package. Thanks, Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From chouy at ematters.com.tw Wed Sep 26 08:12:56 2007 From: chouy at ematters.com.tw (Tina Chou) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:12:56 +0800 Subject: F7 SCIM and StarDict problem Message-ID: <20070926081114.M3049@ematters.com.tw> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:14:03 +1000, Jens Petersen wrote > Tina Chou wrote: > > Yes I'm using scim-tables-chinese. > > But I can't even switch to any IM in scim. > > in stardict, right? Yes. > > Which stardict package are you running? Stardict 3.0 This morning I uninstalled fonts-japanese (I use f7 in Chinese) but nothing changed. Then I reinstalled an old version of Stardict (stardict-2.4.8-1.i386.rpm) and it worked again. (I can switch to scim and type Chinese) Does it mean the latest Stardict has problems? > > >>>>> The next problem is about ZhuYin????and CangJie version 5???????. > >>>>> In their menu, Korea characters shows up at the front somehow (but they used > >>>>> to be at the end). > >> Which fonts do you have installed? > > > > Here's what I got running rpm -qa fonts-\* | sort: > > fonts-chinese-3.03-4.fc7 > > fonts-japanese-0.20061016-6.fc7 > > I suggest to uninstall fonts-japanese if you don't need it > (particularly if you're running your desktop in English say). > > Jens --------------------- Tina From zhu at redhat.com Wed Sep 26 08:34:13 2007 From: zhu at redhat.com (Hu Zheng) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:34:13 +0800 Subject: F7 SCIM and StarDict problem In-Reply-To: <20070926081114.M3049@ematters.com.tw> References: <20070926081114.M3049@ematters.com.tw> Message-ID: <1190795653.3552.4.camel@dhcp-0-163.pek.redhat.com> The difference between 2.4.8 and 3.0.0 is that the entry widget become different. 2.4.8 use the old deprecated "gtk_combo_new", while 3.0.0 use "gtk_combo_box_entry_new_with_model". Can your 3.0.0 combo entry get focus? Click the translate button, can you input word in the textview? Can you input words in gedit? ? 2007-09-26?? 16:12 +0800?Tina Chou??? > On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:14:03 +1000, Jens Petersen wrote > > Tina Chou wrote: > > > Yes I'm using scim-tables-chinese. > > > But I can't even switch to any IM in scim. > > > > in stardict, right? > Yes. > > > > > Which stardict package are you running? > Stardict 3.0 > > This morning I uninstalled fonts-japanese (I use f7 in Chinese) > but nothing changed. > > Then I reinstalled an old version of Stardict (stardict-2.4.8-1.i386.rpm) > and it worked again. (I can switch to scim and type Chinese) > > Does it mean the latest Stardict has problems? > > > > > >>>>> The next problem is about ZhuYin????and CangJie version 5???????. > > >>>>> In their menu, Korea characters shows up at the front somehow (but they used > > >>>>> to be at the end). > > >> Which fonts do you have installed? > > > > > > Here's what I got running rpm -qa fonts-\* | sort: > > > fonts-chinese-3.03-4.fc7 > > > fonts-japanese-0.20061016-6.fc7 > > > > I suggest to uninstall fonts-japanese if you don't need it > > (particularly if you're running your desktop in English say). > > > > Jens > > --------------------- > Tina > > -- > Fedora-i18n-list mailing list > Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list From chouy at ematters.com.tw Wed Sep 26 10:00:19 2007 From: chouy at ematters.com.tw (Tina Chou) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:00:19 +0800 Subject: F7 SCIM and StarDict problem In-Reply-To: <1190795653.3552.4.camel@dhcp-0-163.pek.redhat.com> References: <20070926081114.M3049@ematters.com.tw> <1190795653.3552.4.camel@dhcp-0-163.pek.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20070926094344.M16882@ematters.com.tw> Hi, I want to add one more thing. I have actually installed fonts-japanese back along with StarDict 2.4.8. - everything works. On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:34:13 +0800, Hu Zheng wrote > The difference between 2.4.8 and 3.0.0 is that the entry widget become > different. > 2.4.8 use the old deprecated "gtk_combo_new", while 3.0.0 use > "gtk_combo_box_entry_new_with_model". > Can your 3.0.0 combo entry get focus? Sorry, can you talk more about 'combo entry' ? > Click the translate button, can you input word in the textview? I can't see the translate button in Stardict 3.0. Is that the little arrow button next to the entry field on top? > Can you input words in gedit? Yes, I can input Chinese in gedit. > > ? 2007-09-26?? 16:12 +0800?Tina Chou??? > > On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:14:03 +1000, Jens Petersen wrote > > > Tina Chou wrote: > > > > Yes I'm using scim-tables-chinese. > > > > But I can't even switch to any IM in scim. > > > > > > in stardict, right? > > Yes. > > > > > > > > Which stardict package are you running? > > Stardict 3.0 > > > > This morning I uninstalled fonts-japanese (I use f7 in Chinese) > > but nothing changed. > > > > Then I reinstalled an old version of Stardict (stardict-2.4.8-1.i386.rpm) > > and it worked again. (I can switch to scim and type Chinese) > > > > Does it mean the latest Stardict has problems? > > > > > > > > >>>>> The next problem is about ZhuYin????and CangJie version 5???????. > > > >>>>> In their menu, Korea characters shows up at the front somehow (but they used > > > >>>>> to be at the end). > > > >> Which fonts do you have installed? > > > > > > > > Here's what I got running rpm -qa fonts-\* | sort: > > > > fonts-chinese-3.03-4.fc7 > > > > fonts-japanese-0.20061016-6.fc7 > > > > > > I suggest to uninstall fonts-japanese if you don't need it > > > (particularly if you're running your desktop in English say). > > > > > > Jens > > > > --------------------- > > Tina > > > > -- > > Fedora-i18n-list mailing list > > Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list --------------------- ?? chouy at ematters.com.tw ????? Forums - ????? Math (http://tps02.konwen.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=16) tips?? http://tps01.ematters.com.tw/resources/technology_desk/signature_tips/ From chouy at ematters.com.tw Thu Sep 27 02:08:13 2007 From: chouy at ematters.com.tw (Tina Chou) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:08:13 +0800 Subject: F7 SCIM and StarDict problem In-Reply-To: <1190801810.3552.6.camel@dhcp-0-163.pek.redhat.com> References: <20070926081114.M3049@ematters.com.tw> <1190795653.3552.4.camel@dhcp-0-163.pek.redhat.com> <20070926094344.M16882@ematters.com.tw> <1190801810.3552.6.camel@dhcp-0-163.pek.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20070927020706.M24383@ematters.com.tw> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:16:50 +0800, Hu Zheng wrote > Can the entry get focus? > The entry can get focus. I can type English without problem but can't switch to Chinese input. I can only copy and paste Chinese words in the entry to look for translation. > ? 2007-09-26?? 18:00 +0800?Tina Chou??? > > Hi, > > > > I want to add one more thing. I have actually installed fonts-japanese back along with > > StarDict 2.4.8. - everything works. > > > > On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:34:13 +0800, Hu Zheng wrote > > > The difference between 2.4.8 and 3.0.0 is that the entry widget become > > > different. > > > 2.4.8 use the old deprecated "gtk_combo_new", while 3.0.0 use > > > "gtk_combo_box_entry_new_with_model". > > > > > > > Can your 3.0.0 combo entry get focus? > > Sorry, can you talk more about 'combo entry' ? > > > > > Click the translate button, can you input word in the textview? > > I can't see the translate button in Stardict 3.0. Is that the little arrow button > > next to the entry field on top? > > > > > Can you input words in gedit? > > Yes, I can input Chinese in gedit. > > > > > > > > ? 2007-09-26?? 16:12 +0800?Tina Chou??? > > > > On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:14:03 +1000, Jens Petersen wrote > > > > > Tina Chou wrote: > > > > > > Yes I'm using scim-tables-chinese. > > > > > > But I can't even switch to any IM in scim. > > > > > > > > > > in stardict, right? > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which stardict package are you running? > > > > Stardict 3.0 > > > > > > > > This morning I uninstalled fonts-japanese (I use f7 in Chinese) > > > > but nothing changed. > > > > > > > > Then I reinstalled an old version of Stardict (stardict-2.4.8-1.i386.rpm) > > > > and it worked again. (I can switch to scim and type Chinese) > > > > > > > > Does it mean the latest Stardict has problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> The next problem is about ZhuYin????and CangJie version 5???????. > > > > > >>>>> In their menu, Korea characters shows up at the front somehow (but they used > > > > > >>>>> to be at the end). > > > > > >> Which fonts do you have installed? > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's what I got running rpm -qa fonts-\* | sort: > > > > > > fonts-chinese-3.03-4.fc7 > > > > > > fonts-japanese-0.20061016-6.fc7 > > > > > > > > > > I suggest to uninstall fonts-japanese if you don't need it > > > > > (particularly if you're running your desktop in English say). > > > > > > > > > > Jens > > > > > > > > --------------------- > > > > Tina > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Fedora-i18n-list mailing list > > > > Fedora-i18n-list at redhat.com > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list > > > > > > --------------------- > > ?? > > chouy at ematters.com.tw > > > > ????? 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