From manoj at searc.co.in Wed Apr 2 03:29:22 2008 From: manoj at searc.co.in (Manoj Kumar) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:59:22 +0530 Subject: Crash in evolution mail tool Message-ID: <1207106962.5451.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Can somebody help? After opening evolution mail tool on Fedora 8, I go to new message and a new message window pops up. In this new message window when I try clicking on "Attach" , evolution mailtool crashes with the message:- ******************************************************** Distribution: Fedora release 8 (Werewolf) Gnome Release: 2.20.1 2007-10-15 (Red Hat, Inc) BugBuddy Version: 2.22.0 System: Linux 2.6.23.1-42.fc8 #1 SMP Tue Oct 30 13:55:12 EDT 2007 i686 X Vendor: The X.Org Foundation X Vendor Release: 10300000 Selinux: Enforcing Accessibility: Disabled GTK+ Theme: Nodoka Icon Theme: Fedora Memory status: size: 0 vsize: 0 resident: 0 share: 0 rss: 0 rss_rlim: 0 CPU usage: start_time: 0 rtime: 0 utime: 0 stime: 0 cutime:0 cstime: 0 timeout: 0 it_real_value: 0 frequency: 0 ********************************************************* From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 2 10:38:41 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:08:41 +0530 Subject: Crash in evolution mail tool In-Reply-To: <1207106962.5451.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1207106962.5451.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <47F36231.5020402@fedoraproject.org> Manoj Kumar wrote: > Can somebody help? > > After opening evolution mail tool on Fedora 8, I go to > new message and a new message window pops up. In this new message > window when I try clicking on "Attach" , evolution mailtool crashes with > the message:- Please file a bug report. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugsAndFeatureRequests Rahul From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 03:00:38 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:30:38 +0530 Subject: [fedora-India] May we have a meeting? Message-ID: Hi, Its long time since we, Indian ambassadors had a meeting. Don't you think We are communicating very little? What about fixing time/date and setting up agendas for a meeting? What do you say? Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ============================================= From siddharth at techbugs.org Fri Apr 11 03:55:58 2008 From: siddharth at techbugs.org (Siddharth Upmanyu) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:25:58 +0530 Subject: [fedora-India] May we have a meeting? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:30 AM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Hi, > > Its long time since we, Indian ambassadors had a meeting. > Don't you think We are communicating very little? > > What about fixing time/date and setting up agendas for a meeting? > > What do you say? > > Thanks. > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi > ============================================= > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > Hi Friends We can have a meeting... regarding FreeMedia I have some information to share.. India has some 1200 requests since 2007 Jan of which around 800 would be open... (more then 200 will be duplicate or repeat requests in different months) I checked and found that some cities has very large request count Bangalore 130 Chennai 115 Pune 60 Delhi 56 like wise we can find more.... I am looking to clear Bangalore this weekend.. If any of you can help in taking other cities let me know.. I'll give you the details.. The plan is to ask the Request owners to bring a blank media and get it burned personally... that should be the easiest thing to do on our part.. Regards Siddharth From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 04:31:02 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:01:02 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] [fedora-India] May we have a meeting? In-Reply-To: References: <47FF609E.20001@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi All, We have a agenda for this meeting here. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-04-19 *Please update it with your ideas.* Even as Fedora have a huge user and contributor base from APAC, we are in a pretty bad condition compared to North & South America and EMEA in terms of events, marketing, and spreading the word. Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ============================================= From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Sun Apr 20 02:23:55 2008 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 07:53:55 +0530 Subject: Fwd: Help the Release Engineering Team! In-Reply-To: <1208635680.3445.93.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1208635680.3445.93.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <3170f42f0804191923n61a35f83p53bba8bb5a1e85e@mail.gmail.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jesse Keating Date: 20 Apr 2008 01:38 Subject: Help the Release Engineering Team! To: fedora-devel-list at redhat.com Want to give the releng team a hand? Great! I've got a fun task for you! In our ramp up to release Fedora 9, many Fedora 9 blocker bugs have been recently closed. The tracker for these bugs is at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=235706 However since we're in a freeze mode, there is no guarantee that "CLOSED->RAWHIDE" actually means that a package build made it into rawhide. What we're looking for is somebody to trace through the blocker bugs that have been closed since April 8th and make sure that there: A) a package build with the fix and B) that build (or a later one) has been tagged with f9-final in koji. For anything that doesn't meet one of those two requirements, either re-open the bug and state such in the bug, or mail rel-eng at fedoraproject.org with the details. Your help will be much appreciated. P.S. Coordinating somewhere like fedora-devel-list or on irc in #fedora-devel might be useful to prevent multiple people from doing the same work. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- "From what we get, we can make a living; what we give, however, makes a life." -- Arthur Ashe -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc URL: From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Tue Apr 22 02:31:06 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:01:06 +0530 Subject: GSoC Projects for Fedora+JBoss this year Message-ID: <480D4DEA.2020701@gmail.com> http://code.google.com/soc/2008/fedora/about.html -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Tue Apr 29 07:21:43 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:51:43 +0530 Subject: Why would anyone like to have a Fedora Mirror ? Message-ID: <4816CC87.108@gmail.com> I was being generally unhappy with the Mirror Admins of the two external Fedora Mirrors in India and we collectively stumbled upon the eureka moment that we don't have straight answer to "why an university or any academic institution with a reasonable connection would like to have a Fedora Mirror, internally, if not externally" Given the low number of torrent seeds and the increasing usage of rawhide bits for the OS, it becomes important to [i] have more mirrors [ii] more torrent seeds and [iii] more media via FreeMedia available. mether would perhaps like to write about [iii] separately later. This mail is more about the question - what would be a compelling reason for an institution to have a Fedora mirror ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From a.mani.cms at gmail.com Tue Apr 29 15:53:57 2008 From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:23:57 +0530 Subject: Why would anyone like to have a Fedora Mirror ? In-Reply-To: <4816CC87.108@gmail.com> References: <4816CC87.108@gmail.com> Message-ID: <78323d480804290853r5ca73c9al87d354c64d343fbd@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > mether would perhaps like to write about [iii] separately later. This mail > is more about the question - what would be a compelling reason for an > institution to have a Fedora mirror ? It is a much better idea to have a local mirror, than to let a vast horde of people download the same file again and again. Of course those institutions that use proxy can cache the iso images. But that is only the beginning. If X is a version of a distro ... then the installs are bound to get bigger over time in various patterns. Every University must have a basic commitment towards the intellectual, economic and social welfare of the society and that is the more compelling reason. The institution in question needs to do little here, but the possible benefits are substantial. Best A. Mani -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Tue Apr 29 17:27:39 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:57:39 +0530 Subject: Why would anyone like to have a Fedora Mirror ? In-Reply-To: <78323d480804290853r5ca73c9al87d354c64d343fbd@mail.gmail.com> References: <4816CC87.108@gmail.com> <78323d480804290853r5ca73c9al87d354c64d343fbd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48175A8B.1050400@gmail.com> Mani A wrote: > Every University must have a basic commitment towards the > intellectual, economic and social welfare of the society and that is > the more compelling reason. The institution in question needs to do > little here, but the possible benefits are substantial. That said it makes it easier to attack problems if some particular points are discussed and investigated. The underlying problem is that we do need to make one big push towards getting more mirrors, even if they are internal at the beginning and getting more seeders for the torrents -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 30 04:29:55 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:59:55 +0530 Subject: Why would anyone like to have a Fedora Mirror ? In-Reply-To: <4816CC87.108@gmail.com> References: <4816CC87.108@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4817F5C3.7040408@fedoraproject.org> Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > I was being generally unhappy with the Mirror Admins of the two external > Fedora Mirrors in India and we collectively stumbled upon the eureka > moment that we don't have straight answer to "why an university or any > academic institution with a reasonable connection would like to have a > Fedora Mirror, internally, if not externally" > > Given the low number of torrent seeds and the increasing usage of > rawhide bits for the OS, it becomes important to [i] have more mirrors > [ii] more torrent seeds and [iii] more media via FreeMedia available. > > mether would perhaps like to write about [iii] separately later. This > mail is more about the question - what would be a compelling reason for > an institution to have a Fedora mirror ? {Will post the free media details later] Atleast in some of the universities, being affiliated with major free and open source software projects is very beneficial within the educational environment considering the long standing history of such establishments to Unix/Unix like systems. They would encourage more usage, experimentation and more informal relationships that can lead to short term projects (Google SoC, Internships), hires for the skill set based on practical projects instead of getting permanently struck in the fresher - no experience - no hire loop. IIT's have continued to bang on this very successfully and other smart colleges have adopted this model too. One particular point I heard from mirror admins is that a six month release cycle + fast updates can be problematic due to bandwidth limitations. For the couple of official mirrors within India, they don't actually meet the stated requirements and have been given exceptions since having a bandwidth capped mirror is better than no mirror at all but as a consequence of this, they almost always time our/reject connections for yum updates. We probably to need to again get in touch with IIT folks and see if we can make progress on getting their internal/public mirror listed. Note that mirror manager has a feature where a private mirror can be listed but hidden which allows all the internal users to be automatically redirected to the local mirror instead of the public ones which is a pretty nifty thing to do. Rahul From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 04:44:43 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:14:43 +0530 Subject: Why would anyone like to have a Fedora Mirror ? In-Reply-To: <4817F5C3.7040408@fedoraproject.org> References: <4816CC87.108@gmail.com> <4817F5C3.7040408@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: > We probably to need to again get in touch with IIT folks and see if we can make > progress on getting their internal/public mirror listed. If I remember correctly, you were talking to IITM in this regard. Is there any update on that? -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ============================================= From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 04:45:26 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:15:26 +0530 Subject: Why would anyone like to have a Fedora Mirror ? In-Reply-To: References: <4816CC87.108@gmail.com> <4817F5C3.7040408@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: > > If I remember correctly, you were talking to IITM in this regard. > Is there any update on that? I meant IITC, sorry for the mistake. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ============================================= From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 30 04:51:25 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:21:25 +0530 Subject: Why would anyone like to have a Fedora Mirror ? In-Reply-To: References: <4816CC87.108@gmail.com> <4817F5C3.7040408@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4817FACD.4020000@fedoraproject.org> susmit shannigrahi wrote: >> If I remember correctly, you were talking to IITM in this regard. >> Is there any update on that? > > I meant IITC, sorry for the mistake. That was during the last release. That petered out with no real results. We are going to try again. Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 30 05:01:51 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:31:51 +0530 Subject: Indian Fedora Contributors Message-ID: <4817FD3F.2020408@fedoraproject.org> Hi, I have created a list at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RegionalTeams/India Probably missed out a few people. If you see any of the contributors not listed including yourself, please feel free to edit the wiki or let me know. I will see if we can mine the account system to get more information. Rahul From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 05:06:45 2008 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:36:45 +0530 Subject: Indian Fedora Contributors In-Reply-To: <4817FD3F.2020408@fedoraproject.org> References: <4817FD3F.2020408@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <3170f42f0804292206i34581d3ahff3c148367969e42@mail.gmail.com> > Probably missed out a few people. If you see any of the contributors not > listed including yourself, please feel free to edit the wiki or let me know. Translators? Runa Bhattacharjee (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RunaBhattacharjee) comes to my mind. Cheers, Debarshi -- "From what we get, we can make a living; what we give, however, makes a life." -- Arthur Ashe From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 05:07:16 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:37:16 +0530 Subject: Indian Fedora Contributors In-Reply-To: <4817FD3F.2020408@fedoraproject.org> References: <4817FD3F.2020408@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi, > > I have created a list at > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RegionalTeams/India How about creating a table with two or three fields. For example name || role at project || location -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ============================================= From saurabh.jain at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 05:07:30 2008 From: saurabh.jain at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Saurabh_Jai?= =?UTF-8?Q?n_(=E0=A4=B8=E0=A5=8C=E0=A4=B0?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=AD_=E0=A4=9C=E0=A5=88=E0=A4=A8)?=) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:37:30 +0530 Subject: Why would anyone like to have a Fedora Mirror ? In-Reply-To: <4817FACD.4020000@fedoraproject.org> References: <4816CC87.108@gmail.com> <4817F5C3.7040408@fedoraproject.org> <4817FACD.4020000@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <8cae849f0804292207w1ccac440ycf2ef1dfa2bb76ca@mail.gmail.com> Hi Guys I have been trying to talk to NIXI about hosting Linux mirrors in India. Working through the babudom is taking a lot of time, though. Meanwhile, I host Fedora mirrors on a few servers I maintain here and there. None of these have more than 2Mbps connectivity, which might not be great, but is still good by India standards. Would it be useful to have these added to the official Fedora Mirror list? We have no connection limits or other such jazz. We just prioritise the SMTP and IMAP traffic on these servers over the FTP traffic, so no one in management complains about the mirror traffic. Your thoughts please... -Saurabh From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 05:07:34 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:37:34 +0530 Subject: Indian Fedora Contributors In-Reply-To: <4817FD3F.2020408@fedoraproject.org> References: <4817FD3F.2020408@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4817FE96.1020807@gmail.com> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > I have created a list at > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RegionalTeams/India Thank you. > Probably missed out a few people. If you see any of the contributors not > listed including yourself, please feel free to edit the wiki or let me > know. I will see if we can mine the account system to get more information. Need to have the language team leads, contributors to documentation and other stuff like Bug Triage (if any). -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 05:10:43 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:40:43 +0530 Subject: Why would anyone like to have a Fedora Mirror ? In-Reply-To: <4817FACD.4020000@fedoraproject.org> References: <4816CC87.108@gmail.com> <4817F5C3.7040408@fedoraproject.org> <4817FACD.4020000@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4817FF53.7010405@gmail.com> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > That was during the last release. That petered out with no real results. > We are going to try again. IIT Chennai / Madras is an option, IIT Mumbai is another (and they do have an internal mirror about which nothing much gets talked about). There are a lot of private institutes which seem to be taking a deep interest in producing Free / Open Source Software - would be nice to start getting folks from there on this list. An internal mirror is a good thing to begin with. The underlying idea over here is to figure out how to get the os bits to people primarily to use and as an added benefit to contribute. So, for example, I know of a person at Madhyamgram who syncs repos nearly daily and provides installation and related support to a lot of students nearby. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 05:14:38 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:44:38 +0530 Subject: Why would anyone like to have a Fedora Mirror ? In-Reply-To: <8cae849f0804292207w1ccac440ycf2ef1dfa2bb76ca@mail.gmail.com> References: <4816CC87.108@gmail.com> <4817F5C3.7040408@fedoraproject.org> <4817FACD.4020000@fedoraproject.org> <8cae849f0804292207w1ccac440ycf2ef1dfa2bb76ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > > I have been trying to talk to NIXI about hosting Linux mirrors in > India. Working through the babudom is taking a lot of time, though. > > Meanwhile, I host Fedora mirrors on a few servers I maintain here and > there. None of these have more than 2Mbps connectivity, which might > not be great, but is still good by India standards. Would it be useful > to have these added to the official Fedora Mirror list? That will be too nice. :) >We have no > connection limits or other such jazz. We just prioritise the SMTP and > IMAP traffic on these servers over the FTP traffic, so no one in > management complains about the mirror traffic. Once you are listed, you will need to have that restriction!!! Otherwise you won't be able to open even a single web page, let alone SMTP. (You will find it out yourself. You need not believe me :)) We generally get ~65000 hits a day and over 35 Gbs of transfer even with the restriction. ;) Still if we have many mirrors, we can overcome this problem as the load will be shared. > > Your thoughts please... > > -Saurabh > -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ============================================= From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 30 05:17:55 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:47:55 +0530 Subject: Indian Fedora Contributors In-Reply-To: References: <4817FD3F.2020408@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <48180103.5060605@fedoraproject.org> susmit shannigrahi wrote: > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Rahul Sundaram > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have created a list at >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RegionalTeams/India > > How about creating a table with two or three fields. For example > name || role at project || location That's what I have done now http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RegionalTeams/India Language maintainers, please edit the wiki and add your names. Rahul From saurabh.jain at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 05:17:11 2008 From: saurabh.jain at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Saurabh_Jai?= =?UTF-8?Q?n_(=E0=A4=B8=E0=A5=8C=E0=A4=B0?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=AD_=E0=A4=9C=E0=A5=88=E0=A4=A8)?=) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:47:11 +0530 Subject: Why would anyone like to have a Fedora Mirror ? In-Reply-To: <4817FF53.7010405@gmail.com> References: <4816CC87.108@gmail.com> <4817F5C3.7040408@fedoraproject.org> <4817FACD.4020000@fedoraproject.org> <4817FF53.7010405@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8cae849f0804292217x7dafaeep28c6ff548f0f14e5@mail.gmail.com> > IIT Chennai / Madras is an option IITM has always had a pubic mirror. Here it is: ftp://ftp.iitm.ac.in/fedora/ Don't know if they want to have it listed in the public mirrors. Five years back when I was at IITM, we wanted to be publicly listed, but there was no Fedora or mirror concept at RedHat. From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 05:17:19 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:47:19 +0530 Subject: Why would anyone like to have a Fedora Mirror ? In-Reply-To: References: <4816CC87.108@gmail.com> <4817F5C3.7040408@fedoraproject.org> <4817FACD.4020000@fedoraproject.org> <8cae849f0804292207w1ccac440ycf2ef1dfa2bb76ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <481800DF.3030902@gmail.com> susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Once you are listed, you will need to have that restriction!!! > Otherwise you won't be able to open even a single web page, let alone > SMTP. (You will find it out yourself. You need not believe me :)) > We generally get ~65000 hits a day and over 35 Gbs of transfer even with the > restriction. ;) and we are all waiting for that post from you on your experiences pertaining to giving tender loving care to the WBUT mirror :) -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 05:23:20 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:53:20 +0530 Subject: Why would anyone like to have a Fedora Mirror ? In-Reply-To: References: <4816CC87.108@gmail.com> <4817F5C3.7040408@fedoraproject.org> <4817FACD.4020000@fedoraproject.org> <8cae849f0804292207w1ccac440ycf2ef1dfa2bb76ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Once you are listed, you will need to have that restriction!!! > Otherwise you won't be able to open even a single web page, let alone > SMTP. (You will find it out yourself. You need not believe me :)) > We generally get ~65000 hits a day and over 35 Gbs of transfer even with the > restriction. ;) There is another thing I forgot to mention, Suppose you don't restrict your traffic, and you have 256 httpd connection,(default for apache). So for each user, you assign (theoretically) 2048Kbps/256 = 8 Kbps. Practically it will be still less :(. So that will slow down the whole update system of fedora. This is exactly why we had to limit our connection. :( -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ============================================= From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 30 05:24:47 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:54:47 +0530 Subject: Why would anyone like to have a Fedora Mirror ? In-Reply-To: <8cae849f0804292207w1ccac440ycf2ef1dfa2bb76ca@mail.gmail.com> References: <4816CC87.108@gmail.com> <4817F5C3.7040408@fedoraproject.org> <4817FACD.4020000@fedoraproject.org> <8cae849f0804292207w1ccac440ycf2ef1dfa2bb76ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4818029F.7040202@fedoraproject.org> Saurabh Jain (???? ???) wrote: > Hi Guys > > I have been trying to talk to NIXI about hosting Linux mirrors in > India. Working through the babudom is taking a lot of time, though. Please keep following up. We are in real need for more mirrors as we are close to the Fedora 9 release. Some traffic details are at http://fedoraproject.org/maps > Meanwhile, I host Fedora mirrors on a few servers I maintain here and > there. None of these have more than 2Mbps connectivity, which might > not be great, but is still good by India standards. Would it be useful > to have these added to the official Fedora Mirror list? We have no > connection limits or other such jazz. We just prioritise the SMTP and > IMAP traffic on these servers over the FTP traffic, so no one in > management complains about the mirror traffic. > > Your thoughts please... I am CC'ing our mirror admin, Matt Domsch who you can get in touch with offlist and provide you more details. Some information at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring Ignore the bandwidth requirements and follow the other instructions. Like I said, we have added the Indian mirrors despite not meeting our bandwidth requirements since it does to help to share the load. Rahul From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 05:25:19 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:55:19 +0530 Subject: Indian Fedora Contributors In-Reply-To: <48180103.5060605@fedoraproject.org> References: <4817FD3F.2020408@fedoraproject.org> <48180103.5060605@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RegionalTeams/India > > Language maintainers, please edit the wiki and add your names. How about sysadmins? -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ============================================= From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 30 05:29:40 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:59:40 +0530 Subject: Indian Fedora Contributors In-Reply-To: References: <4817FD3F.2020408@fedoraproject.org> <48180103.5060605@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <481803C4.3030004@fedoraproject.org> susmit shannigrahi wrote: >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RegionalTeams/India >> >> Language maintainers, please edit the wiki and add your names. > > > How about sysadmins? As stated in the wiki page, any contributor can list their names in there. I know package, language maintainers and ambassadors are the major chunk but more details is useful. Rahul From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 05:28:42 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:58:42 +0530 Subject: Indian Fedora Contributors In-Reply-To: References: <4817FD3F.2020408@fedoraproject.org> <48180103.5060605@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4818038A.9040100@gmail.com> susmit shannigrahi wrote: > How about sysadmins? Mirror Admins, Contributors to the Infrastructure Team etc etc all welcome :) It is a wiki after all - just go ahead and add categories that make sense. At some point we need to figure out the quantum of contributions going and information helps to arrive at that figure -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From runabh at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 05:31:59 2008 From: runabh at gmail.com (Runa Bhattacharjee) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:01:59 +0530 Subject: Indian Fedora Contributors In-Reply-To: <3170f42f0804292206i34581d3ahff3c148367969e42@mail.gmail.com> References: <4817FD3F.2020408@fedoraproject.org> <3170f42f0804292206i34581d3ahff3c148367969e42@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4818044F.2080306@gmail.com> Debarshi Ray wrote: >> Probably missed out a few people. If you see any of the contributors not >> listed including yourself, please feel free to edit the wiki or let me know. >> > > Translators? Runa Bhattacharjee > (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RunaBhattacharjee) comes to my mind. /me clobbers mether. Thanks rishi. runa -- blog: http://runab.livejournal.com irc: mishti or runa_b on Freenode From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 30 05:36:02 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:06:02 +0530 Subject: Indian Fedora Contributors In-Reply-To: <4818044F.2080306@gmail.com> References: <4817FD3F.2020408@fedoraproject.org> <3170f42f0804292206i34581d3ahff3c148367969e42@mail.gmail.com> <4818044F.2080306@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48180542.3070807@fedoraproject.org> Runa Bhattacharjee wrote: > Debarshi Ray wrote: >>> Probably missed out a few people. If you see any of the contributors >>> not >>> listed including yourself, please feel free to edit the wiki or let >>> me know. >>> >> >> Translators? Runa Bhattacharjee >> (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RunaBhattacharjee) comes to my mind. > /me clobbers mether. Thanks rishi. No good deed goes unpunished apparently. Rahul From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 06:04:15 2008 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:34:15 +0530 Subject: Free Media: deeper nexus between ambassadors & mirror admins Message-ID: <3170f42f0804292304u12900e31w293e4e3591197f90@mail.gmail.com> I keep hearing and reading about the huge amount of open requests in the Free Media program. I was wondering whether a deeper nexus between the ambassadors and the mirror administrators would help to improve the situation. We can have an arrangement where after every stable release the mirrors admins send snapshots of their mirrors to some "select" ambassadors. These ambassadors can then re-distribute the content further down the tree. Most amabassadors are volunteers and may be bandwidth constrained. So it might be cheaper to send a snapshot in 3-4 DVDs via snail mail than having to do the equivalent amount of downloading. In case the media request has originated from a place geograhically close to a mirror, the ambassadors can simply redirect them to the relevant mirror facility. Someday one can extend this to the idea of getting seed content for new mirrors from pre-existing ones. Comments? Cheers, Debarshi -- "From what we get, we can make a living; what we give, however, makes a life." -- Arthur Ashe From a.mani.cms at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 23:59:47 2008 From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 05:29:47 +0530 Subject: Why would anyone like to have a Fedora Mirror ? In-Reply-To: <4818029F.7040202@fedoraproject.org> References: <4816CC87.108@gmail.com> <4817F5C3.7040408@fedoraproject.org> <4817FACD.4020000@fedoraproject.org> <8cae849f0804292207w1ccac440ycf2ef1dfa2bb76ca@mail.gmail.com> <4818029F.7040202@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <78323d480804301659i5a4610baw1dfd51707c2066e2@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Saurabh Jain (???? ???) wrote: > > > Hi Guys > > > > I have been trying to talk to NIXI about hosting Linux mirrors in > > India. Working through the babudom is taking a lot of time, though. > > > > Please keep following up. We are in real need for more mirrors as we are > close to the Fedora 9 release. Some traffic details are at > It will also help if more detailed instructions on using p2p are provided in appropriate pages. Even adsl users can maintain better ratios. Immediately after release, many Linux distros can be downloaded @ 1.2 -1.6 Mbps by torrent (on a 2Mbps connection), while that may fall to a paltry .2 Mbps by direct download. There are exceptions to the latter aspect. Best A. Mani -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc