From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jun 4 09:49:10 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:19:10 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fwd: Fedora party in INDIA In-Reply-To: <93655eb70806040143u2a16362bld644efa127a40973@mail.gmail.com> References: <93655eb70806040130q66ee5ddci18e969d54c15edd@mail.gmail.com> <93655eb70806040143u2a16362bld644efa127a40973@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48466516.90904@gmail.com> This is a good thing to organize. When do you plan to get this going ? And, are you listed on this page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts It would be good to arrange for you to receive some swag once you have finalized on the date. ~sankarshan Satish Eerpini wrote: > hello everyone !! > > The Fedora community across the globe has events in every country. > Unfortunately we havent conducted any till date. > How about conducting a Fedora community meet or event at Hyderabad . > > Focus would be on things like Virtualization on Fedora > Fedora Spins > Fedora Community > > > I think it should work out. We are also planning to ask for help from > the twincling society (www.twinlcing.org ) , > but want to make it big . > Eeverone from India please respond and post back your ideas, !! > > -- > Thanks and Regards, > > Satish,(http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Eerpini) > Nikhil Bharadhwaj (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NikhilBharadwaj/) > Fedora Ambassadors, > India -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From siddharth at techbugs.org Thu Jun 5 18:18:52 2008 From: siddharth at techbugs.org (Siddharth Upmanyu) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 23:48:52 +0530 Subject: FreeMedia India Message-ID: Hi Friends Some updates regarding FreeMedia, we are getting some support now from different non-fedora contributors... http://www.buzzworks.co.in/ will be supporting the Media distribution as a contributor to FreeMedia India and also Vandana Pandey has offered donation toward shipment costs... I think we should do some brainstorming on how to receive direct money toward FreeMedia contributions lets wait till the meeting.. Regards Siddharth From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Fri Jun 6 04:10:03 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 09:40:03 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self Introduction of Bigyan Bhar In-Reply-To: <8a9a812b0806051826k6e3c22f1j4503ccd114510af0@mail.gmail.com> References: <8a9a812b0806051826k6e3c22f1j4503ccd114510af0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4848B89B.9060004@gmail.com> Welcome. We have a few folks from Kolkata on this (ie fedora-india) list and it would be awesome if you could join forces ~sankarshan BiGYaN wrote: > My name is Bigyan Bhar. I live in Kolkata, India. > > My Blog : BiGYaN's Random Thoughts > Fedora Wiki : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki > /User:Bigyan > > Currently I am pursuing a Post Graduation degree at the University of > Calcutta with Computer Science and Engineering. I completed my B.Sc. in > Computer Science in 2006. > > My love affair with computers began back in 1997 when I had my first > course in BASIC programming language in my school. Got my first PC in > 2001 with Windows 98. In 2002 I saw Linux for the first time at a > friend's place. I was willing to try it out, but did not have the > courage to install it myself. Finally I took the plunge with Red Hat 9 > in Aug 2003. > > From then I have been using Linux regularly for the past 5 years or so. > I installed and used all the Fedora OSs right from Fedora Core 1 to > Fedora 8. So I have become a Fedora help-out guy amongst my peer group > who regularly come to me for all their Linux related problems. > > Personally I feel that the most important thing hindering the popularity > of Fedora is the lack of awareness. Most people around me have wrong > opinions about Fedora, like the unavailability of drivers, which is now > a distant history. I am not the MS basher type, and I do agree that > Windows has revolutionized the PC experience. But Fedora comes with its > own very unique set of advantages which people should consider while > choosing their OS. I think that this Ambassador program is a great > opportunity for Linux lovers like us to do exactly that and spread the > word around for Fedora. > > from, > Bigyan > > -- > Check out my Blog : > http://naygib.blogspot.com/ -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Fri Jun 6 13:34:06 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:04:06 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self-Introduction : Jaydeep Rathava In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48493CCE.80904@gmail.com> Welcome. There seems to be a growing number of folks from Kolkata who are getting involved. They are on this list as well ~sankarshan JAYDEEP JD wrote: > > Hello Friends > > > I would like to introduce myself, my name is Jaydeep Rathava and I have just > joined the Fedora-Ambassador Project & Free Media Distribution Project. > This > > is my first email to this community. > > > > Now > > something about me? > > > > well, I am graduate in mechanical engineering from M.S.University, > Gujarat(India), > > & i am working as a design engineer for one of the reputed MNC situated > > in Kolkata,India. Now a days I am using & promoting open source > utilities to the society..! > > > > I am very grateful & lucky to be part of this revolutionary fedora-project, > > and I will proove my self as one of the inmortant asset for this project..! > > > > > -- > -- > Regards, > > Jaydeep > > Email : thejaydeep at gmail.com > Webpage : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Thejaydeep -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Fri Jun 6 14:11:54 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:41:54 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self Introduction of Bigyan Bhar In-Reply-To: <8a9a812b0806060553h168a5465racab886ac489288@mail.gmail.com> References: <8a9a812b0806051826k6e3c22f1j4503ccd114510af0@mail.gmail.com> <4848B89B.9060004@gmail.com> <8a9a812b0806060553h168a5465racab886ac489288@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <484945AA.3000609@gmail.com> BiGYaN wrote: > Apart from me, I could see: > India / Kolkata - BiswajitDas > > India / Kolkata - GopalDas > > India / Kolkata - SusmitShannigrahi > > India / Kolkata - JaydeepRathava > > > Any idea where and how can I meet them? Do they have a LUG or something > for Kolkata? Most of them would be on this list already. At least Susmit and Debarshi are very much there :) http://list.ilug-cal.org/mailman/listinfo/ilug-cal-discuss is perhaps what you are looking for in addition to this list. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Sat Jun 7 06:56:06 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 12:26:06 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction In-Reply-To: <532319.97659.qm@web8413.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <532319.97659.qm@web8413.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <484A3106.5020408@gmail.com> Welcome. ~sankarshan ankur sinha wrote: > Hey all, > Just here to introduce myself. Im Ankur Sinha and Ive just signed up for the Fedora-Ambassador Project & Free Media Distribution Project a few days back.I also signed up for bug triaging. > > Something about myself :: Im still a college going student and have just entered 3rd Semester. May not have much to contribute at this stage but Im learning quickly and will be of more use in the near future.I have used fedora for a year now.I am the kind that experiments a lot, and fedoraforum.org's the one that gets me out of holes all the time. > > Is really great to be a part of the Fedora Communities.. > > Regards, > > Ankur > > > Check out the all-new face of Yahoo! India. Go to http://in.yahoo.com/ -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sun Jun 8 03:45:10 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:15:10 +0530 Subject: REMINDER: APAC Ambassador Meeting today Message-ID: Hi all, FYI, the next APAC Ambassador Meeting is today 10:00 UTC [1] So this will be at 3:30PM IST. Hope to see you all there. Thanks. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-06-08 -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ============================================= From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Mon Jun 9 06:33:16 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:03:16 +0530 Subject: [Fwd: [smc-discuss] Mukt.in 2008 is coming at Hyderabad on 1,2,3 August] Message-ID: <484CCEAC.60804@gmail.com> Does anyone know more about this ? ~sankarshan -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [smc-discuss] Mukt.in 2008 is coming at Hyderabad on 1,2,3 August Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 13:04:24 +0530 From: ????? ????????? | shyam karanattu Reply-To: smc-discuss at googlegroups.com To: ????????? ?????? ??????????????? , mes-fsf at googlegroups.com, ssug-malappuram at freelists.org, ilug-tvm at googlegroups.com Hi, Mukt.in is another foss event organised by hackers at hyderabad. mukt.in first started in 2007, aug 24,25,26th. It featured discussions, speeches, presentations, and intense interactions. This year it is going to happen at Osmania University CSE Dept, Hyderabad see http://www.mukt.in for details, mark your calenders.. ??????????? ?????? ???? :) happy hacking Shyam.K -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Mon Jun 9 06:40:01 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:10:01 +0530 Subject: [Fwd: [Freed] Review of workshop at IPEC, June 7th] Message-ID: <484CD041.7050701@gmail.com> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Freed] Review of workshop at IPEC, June 7th Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:03:20 +0530 From: Gora Mohanty Reply-To: freed at lists.linux-delhi.org Organization: Sarai, CSDS To: ILUGD main list CC: Source Software Project List , General Freed list , Hello everyone, The workshop at the Inderprastha Engineering College, Sahibabad was a great success. Here is an outline of the workshop: o There were about 100 attendees, including at least 50 students. Though the workshop started late, and went till past 6.30pm, most of the attendees were patient enough to stay till the end. o The presentations included: - Open source, and NLP: Dr. Om Vikas, Director, IPEC - Free/open source software: Kishore Bhargava, ILUG-D - Sailing the digital seas: Licensing, piracy, and Sunil Abraham, ILUG-D - Python programming: Piyush Verma, ILUG-D - Python programming: Applications on Facebook, Twitter, etc. Dipankar Sarkar, ILUG-D - RoR: Sawood Alam, ILUG-D o We have been requested to do more such workshops over this summer, with at least three more in the pipeline by August. Anyone who attended the IPEC workshop is requested to provide feedback, preferably on the Wiki page at http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/Main/InderprasthaFeedback or, by following up on this list. o We handed out 100 DVDs, and 50 Live CDs of Fedora Core 9, thanks to Redhat sponsoring the cost of the media, and duplication. o Some photos from the event were taken by Kishore Bhargava, who will be posting them online, and announcing the same soon. Anyone else who took photos is also requested to make them available online. o Copies of the presentations have been uploaded to http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/Main/InderprasthaWorkshop Please see the links at the bottom of the page. Many thanks to the organisers from CSI and IPEC, the speakers, and participants for making the event a great success. We invite more people to come forward to give presentations at other such events. Please fill in an outline of your idea for a presentation at http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/Main/CollegeExpo and announce it here. Regards, Gora -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Jun 9 08:16:55 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:46:55 +0530 Subject: APAC ambassadors meeting. Do we really need them? Message-ID: Hi all, This is very disheartening to see that most people of APAC region care very little about communicating. Yesterday's meeting was attended by 5-6 people only, though it was announced 3 weeks ago. No one even objected about the day and timing. So it is very obvious that either they had more important task or they don't feel the necessity to communicate. We have more than 70 Ambassadors from India alone. And only two were present. Sorry to say this, but we are making *absolutely* no progress. We have no event, we can not fulfil free media requests, no new mirror, no new agenda, neither do we care for communicating about ideas. Do you think a community or project can progress this way? -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ============================================= From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Jun 9 13:11:32 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:41:32 +0530 Subject: Ambassadors Meeting APAC - IRC Log 2008-06-08 Message-ID: APAC ambassadors meeting is now on. Your wiki names please hi everyone, sorry I'm late SusmitShannigrahi MagieAntonio AlejandroAcosta JasonBenedict EngelsAntonio No one else? I am new, my name is Jaswinder Your wiki name please? don't have yet ok.. no one else from India? ok..lets start the agenda is here https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-06-08 jaswinder, where you are from? Delhi, India Can you please list yourself as a local point of contact? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts curreently I do not have wiki ID ok..you will soon have one anyway. Please consider listing yourself if you can. We don't have anyone in that region Ok but what I have to do :) please refer to the page..you need to burn the DVD/CDs provided by the requester you need not spend any money but currently I do not have F9 hmm...I shall arrange that...mail me offlist. Ok? ok jbenedict, can you please update about singapore? Fedora in Singapore? yes :) and availability of CD/DVD Most people on is using it in Data-center beside RHEL/CentOS... Most will download via Fedora Mirror ie:- NUS Singapore had very good Broadband eof agreed..so you mean starting freemedia program may not be required yes, only a few of my peer asked from me. But will be good to have Fedora as Desktop, like what i had been using for yrs now How about Philippines? magie? Fedora is roughly #2 on desktops and servers availability and events? as in Singapore, most download it via Fedora mirrors * techbugs (n=siddhart at 122.167.151.163) has joined #fedora-meeting Fedora 9 was showcased last May 2 during the 1st Geek Camp hi all siddharth here... my net broke down.. :) hi, welcome ! so what did i missed We are planning another big push this September during Software Freedom Day during september, there is no event I invited all Philippines Ambassadors to a meeting tomorrow EOF so you may ask for fund from Fasco that would be a big help, thanks will bring it up in tomorrow's meeting refer to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents and list yours here got it, thanks jbenedict currently have no idea, but was thinking to do freemedia in form of usb-thumb techbugs, sent pm what you missed. * hanthana (n=danishka at 124.43.53.173) has joined #fedora-meeting jbenedict, what idea are you talking about? yap got it thanks freemedia in usb-thumb is highly possible freemedia program for Singapore. Instead of DVD/CD, i am think of doing it in usb-thumb drive as fedora live bootable. Currently most Singaporean going for Mac away from Vista... * drago01_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) and linux is one of their choice as Desktop too. please google with "fedora 9 on usb how to" a lot of articles are there :) maybe in this way can attract them to fedora. I know how to do flash FC into usbthumb. thanks. ah, nice..thanks anyone from countries other that India, singapore, phillipines? if yes, please update us. so how i can start in promoting freemedia program for Singapore? list it in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/Singapore eof jbenedict, please contact ThomasChung in this regard. he will help you. okay eof techbugs, want to talk about donations? yap.. go on please i was in contact with Buzzworks http://www.buzzworks.co.in/ ... they have agreed to support FreeMedia .. 10 dvds a month but how do we accept that? for now...we ll be providing them with addresses and media tipe and they will ship.. this is the weasist i could come up type* *easist ** and then there was a cash help offer 1K from the other person I think we can use that to coverup the backlog... Yes, me too got a few offers, but... let us take this to the mailing list k sure as you can see the FreeMedia India page we are doing quiet good with local contacts initiative eof for now redhat india talked about this, but no representative from them anyone have anything more to say? -1 -1 -1 -1 ok...then we close but only to say this on record In APAC there is a lack of people seriously trying to contribute. A lot of people join but a few continues. anyway thank you all for attending the meeting we can continue our efforts and try to make some awareness.. it is still early times.. lets hope for some good things coming up susmit, i'm an ex fedora ambassador from bangladesh, can i say something? sure .. yap.. thanks for organizing.... off the record, of coarse susmit, i think the inactive ambassadors should be removed welcome, maybe next time there will be more attendees :) Ekushey, there was a hot discussion on this..but no progress. if someone is not contributing, and still taking the credit of being an "ambassador", then the active ones get discouraged yes the result was inactive ambassadors are an issue but removing them is not a solution well, i removed myself beacuse of this it's been over 2 years since then and i still don't see any difference ! born2linux +1 if I'm not mistaken, magie has invited ph ambassadors 3 times already only 2-3 come to meet :( it is the case in India too... lets continue on the mailing list then... sure..the meeting ends here. +1 susmit, then you can do a review on the ambassadors. if they haven't done anything in the last 3 month or so, they get removed +1 +1 or, there should be an approval system when someday wants to join the ambassadors program Ekushey, how is that going to help? removing does not increase productivity. does it? ! hanthana, you are so late !!! :) go on please yes, sorry mate ! (as I'm not feeling well) why do we need to remove them the things is, any body can contribute at any point this might be badly affecting to the Fedora brand we can't force yes, agreed. people need not be removed. But they need to be pushed. just self motivation, satisfaction agree... a recognition system is better then removal of incative +1 +1 we should thing about how to motivate not to demotivate +1 +1 +1 passion these ppl comes not because of money jbenedict, I like it ;) few days ago Angel from Bangaladesh and me had a small chat regarding Free Media but there should be a system where we (or the project) may ask for explanation we lack that. and I just ask about having a T-shirt for FreeMedia contributors anybody else? what do you guys think about gifit for all (something small) for those who really work define "really work"...work is itself a gift :) anyway our time is up. See you all next time. May be next week? two way A person to fedora, and fedora to person A as Open Suse runs ;) maybe a small nice badge as a appreciation of success. +1 +1 even a "web badge" should go a long way +1 so no need to spend +1 we can hit the mailing list for the pending points... as we are overshooting the alloted time * Bangladesh (n=russell at unaffiliated/ekushey) has joined #fedora-meeting ++1 ++1 +1 people love to show off web badges ;) +1 that s cool please dragt a mail regarding this jbenedict? once we reach to community (physically) physical things are more attractive than web are we meeting next week or next to next week? what do you say? next next week? +1 for next week this my 1st meeting so i trust susmit will do better some work for u sushmit :) ?? sure...will do it +1 next week thanks OT: my wiki is DanishkaNavin if any body required lets try next week.. and ask ambassadors to vote so that we are sure whos gonna be there we meet next week again then. ack ok salamat (thanks) thank you all. magie, salam :) cya guys.. and thanks sushmit for running the meeting bye cheers! see you again. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ============================================= From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Jun 9 13:27:16 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:57:16 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting. Do we really need them? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Might be some people just ignoring the fedora list, but attending is > required but it is not implies that Ambassadors are sleeping. I Never said that. But the fact is communication is pretty less among us. > As I know there are good community members from your country (India). > Specially Rahul Sundharam [1] giving good a contribution. > Hope you met him at FOSS.IN 2007 :) > and the Punjabi Community too. Amanpreet Singh [2] and Jassy Phulewala [3]. > both of them working for spreding FC on Grate Panjab part from their usual > Fedora contribution. No denying in that. They are doing a great job. Many thanks to them. But we need to talk and exchange ideas. Otherwise what could benefit a large number of people benefits only a few. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ============================================= From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Jun 9 13:28:31 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:58:31 +0530 Subject: Michael Chen: India Third-Largest Contributor To Fedora Community Message-ID: <484D2FFF.20109@fedoraproject.org> Hi, http://www.efytimes.com/efytimes/26965/news.htm http://digg.com/linux_unix/India_Third_Largest_Contributor_To_Fedora_Community "Michael Chen, director, Red Hat was recently on a visit to India. In an interview with Swapnil Bhartiya, assistant editor, EFYtimes.com, Chen elucidated upon various issues ranging from the awareness about Linux and open source to India's strengths and the challenges the country is facing in the open source world." Rahul From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 04:45:09 2008 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:15:09 +0530 Subject: Fwd: Fedora Websites in need of development help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3170f42f0806092145m7bfa1840q86e1d7555371be42@mail.gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Max Spevack Date: 2008/6/10 Subject: Fedora Websites in need of development help To: fedora-devel-announce at redhat.com Hi Fedora Developers, Do you know even a little bit about any of the following: * python * genshi * apache And do you want a chance to learn more and/or put your skills to work? The Fedora Websites team is actively looking for some development help on our build scripts -- this is the code that takes templates and turns it into HTML. [1] It's critical for people who want to create local mockups of new designs, and also for pushing our web code into test environments and ultimately into production. If you are interested, please join the fedora-websites-list [2], introduce yourself (if you're not already known), and look for Ricky Zhou. Thanks! - --Max [1] http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/fedora-web.git?p=fedora-web.git;a=blob;f=fedoraproject.org/README [2] http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list _______________________________________________ Fedora-devel-announce mailing list Fedora-devel-announce at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-announce -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://getfiregpg.org iD8DBQFITgVBTMO+PGPUpacRAvEQAJ9Q4Cb/+bRXIMCvIhkoVn5yXTemOACgiUnW aN5sNaBwZ24Yh8P6/RsCvjA= =COFg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ashwin_man at yahoo.com Tue Jun 10 05:03:21 2008 From: ashwin_man at yahoo.com (Ashwin Mansinghka) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: APAC ambassadors meeting. Do we really need them? Message-ID: <556787.35915.qm@web52701.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > This is very disheartening to see that most people of APAC region care > very little about communicating. > You are very passionate about the subject. Great. Refrain from blaming an entire region if they are not as passionate as you > Yesterday's meeting was attended by 5-6 people only, though it was > announced 3 weeks ago. No one even objected about the day and timing. > Look at the brighter side there were 5 - 6 people, focus on the quality of the discussion, how was it. Discuss that part, please highlight the contribution of the 5 - 6 persons present and look at the positive part please. > So it is very obvious that either they had more important task or they > don't feel the necessity to communicate. > Please look ahead, the world does not come to end now. > We have more than 70 Ambassadors from India alone. And only two were present. > Great. > Sorry to say this, but we are making *absolutely* no progress. We have > no event, we can not fulfil free media requests, no new mirror, no new > agenda, neither do we care for communicating about ideas. > > Do you think a community or project can progress this way? > > Yes, this the most healthy sign of the progress of this type of community, carry on, do push around and work on it. with Regards, ASHWIN Check out the all-new face of Yahoo! India. Go to http://in.yahoo.com/ From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 14:49:35 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:19:35 +0530 Subject: Do you know someone who has contributed to Fedora recently ? Message-ID: <484E947F.6040000@gmail.com> Hi, If you or, someone you know, has contributed to Fedora recently, then please ensure that http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RegionalTeams/India has the name of the contributor. Feel free to spread the word around. ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 16:45:25 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:15:25 +0530 Subject: List of events and looking for potential speakers / representatives Message-ID: <484EAFA5.3080704@gmail.com> The iLUG-Delhi folks have been following with their IPEC workshop by putting up a list of events at http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/CollegeExpo It would be nice for us to explore if there are representatives locally available who would be keen to be a voice of Fedora. ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 21:41:08 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:11:08 +0530 Subject: Zyxware and ILUG Trivandrum joins hands for Mandriva Linux Install Fest | Zyxware Technologies Message-ID: <484EF4F4.6070905@gmail.com> http://www.zyxware.com/articles/2008/06/10/zyxware-and-ilug-trivandrum-joins-hands-for-mandriva-linux-install-fest Do we have anyone local who can put forward the Fedora message ? The install fest does have Fedora as an option for people to install, however, it would be nice to take it a bit further by providing some talks / demonstrations on the good things to show. ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 03:38:00 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:08:00 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting. JUNE 15th 0400 GMT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all, Really Nice to see that you all are interested. :) Thanks. I have updated the wiki page for the meeting. * The timing is here[1]. Please check with your local time. * The agenda is here[2]. Don't forget to update it before meeting. * Meeting will be held at #fedora-meeting on freenode. See you all there. :) [1] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2008&month=06&day=15&hour=04&min=0&sec=0 [2]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-06-15 -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ============================================= From nikhil.bbharadwaj at yahoo.com Thu Jun 12 05:59:47 2008 From: nikhil.bbharadwaj at yahoo.com (nikhil bharadwaj) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 10, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: <20080611160042.7BFD461A16E@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <138216.2232.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi, Even we (Andhra Pradesh ambassadors) were looking for local tech speakers on fedora. We would like to conduct a Fedora community day at Hyderabad along with some tech stuffs like virtualizationn on fedora , USB creation,etc at the AP's Local Linux User Group. If anybody could turn up for this event; it would be great. Also if anyone could recommend somebody for this event too! fedora-india-request at redhat.com wrote: Send Fedora-india mailing list submissions to fedora-india at redhat.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fedora-india-request at redhat.com You can reach the person managing the list at fedora-india-owner at redhat.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Fedora-india digest..." Today's Topics: 1. List of events and looking for potential speakers / representatives (Sankarshan (????????)) 2. Zyxware and ILUG Trivandrum joins hands for Mandriva Linux Install Fest | Zyxware Technologies (Sankarshan (????????)) 3. Re: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting. JUNE 15th 0400 GMT (susmit shannigrahi) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:15:25 +0530 From: "Sankarshan (????????)" Subject: List of events and looking for potential speakers / representatives To: The Fedora Project Community in India Message-ID: <484EAFA5.3080704 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed The iLUG-Delhi folks have been following with their IPEC workshop by putting up a list of events at http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/CollegeExpo It would be nice for us to explore if there are representatives locally available who would be keen to be a voice of Fedora. ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:11:08 +0530 From: "Sankarshan (????????)" Subject: Zyxware and ILUG Trivandrum joins hands for Mandriva Linux Install Fest | Zyxware Technologies To: The Fedora Project Community in India Message-ID: <484EF4F4.6070905 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed http://www.zyxware.com/articles/2008/06/10/zyxware-and-ilug-trivandrum-joins-hands-for-mandriva-linux-install-fest Do we have anyone local who can put forward the Fedora message ? The install fest does have Fedora as an option for people to install, however, it would be nice to take it a bit further by providing some talks / demonstrations on the good things to show. ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:08:00 +0530 From: "susmit shannigrahi" Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting. JUNE 15th 0400 GMT To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com, "The Fedora Project Community in India" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi all, Really Nice to see that you all are interested. :) Thanks. I have updated the wiki page for the meeting. * The timing is here[1]. Please check with your local time. * The agenda is here[2]. Don't forget to update it before meeting. * Meeting will be held at #fedora-meeting on freenode. See you all there. :) [1] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2008&month=06&day=15&hour=04&min=0&sec=0 [2]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-06-15 -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ============================================= ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india End of Fedora-india Digest, Vol 10, Issue 8 ******************************************* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nikhil.bbharadwaj at yahoo.com Thu Jun 12 05:59:56 2008 From: nikhil.bbharadwaj at yahoo.com (nikhil bharadwaj) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:59:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 10, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: <20080611160042.7BFD461A16E@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <95683.23520.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi, Even we (Andhra Pradesh ambassadors) were looking for local tech speakers on fedora. We would like to conduct a Fedora community day at Hyderabad along with some tech stuffs like virtualizationn on fedora , USB creation,etc at the AP's Local Linux User Group. If anybody could turn up for this event; it would be great. Also if anyone could recommend somebody for this event too! Nikhil fedora-india-request at redhat.com wrote: Send Fedora-india mailing list submissions to fedora-india at redhat.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fedora-india-request at redhat.com You can reach the person managing the list at fedora-india-owner at redhat.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Fedora-india digest..." Today's Topics: 1. List of events and looking for potential speakers / representatives (Sankarshan (????????)) 2. Zyxware and ILUG Trivandrum joins hands for Mandriva Linux Install Fest | Zyxware Technologies (Sankarshan (????????)) 3. Re: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting. JUNE 15th 0400 GMT (susmit shannigrahi) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:15:25 +0530 From: "Sankarshan (????????)" Subject: List of events and looking for potential speakers / representatives To: The Fedora Project Community in India Message-ID: <484EAFA5.3080704 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed The iLUG-Delhi folks have been following with their IPEC workshop by putting up a list of events at http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/CollegeExpo It would be nice for us to explore if there are representatives locally available who would be keen to be a voice of Fedora. ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:11:08 +0530 From: "Sankarshan (????????)" Subject: Zyxware and ILUG Trivandrum joins hands for Mandriva Linux Install Fest | Zyxware Technologies To: The Fedora Project Community in India Message-ID: <484EF4F4.6070905 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed http://www.zyxware.com/articles/2008/06/10/zyxware-and-ilug-trivandrum-joins-hands-for-mandriva-linux-install-fest Do we have anyone local who can put forward the Fedora message ? The install fest does have Fedora as an option for people to install, however, it would be nice to take it a bit further by providing some talks / demonstrations on the good things to show. ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:08:00 +0530 From: "susmit shannigrahi" Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting. JUNE 15th 0400 GMT To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com, "The Fedora Project Community in India" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi all, Really Nice to see that you all are interested. :) Thanks. I have updated the wiki page for the meeting. * The timing is here[1]. Please check with your local time. * The agenda is here[2]. Don't forget to update it before meeting. * Meeting will be held at #fedora-meeting on freenode. See you all there. :) [1] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2008&month=06&day=15&hour=04&min=0&sec=0 [2]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-06-15 -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ============================================= ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india End of Fedora-india Digest, Vol 10, Issue 8 ******************************************* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nikhil.bbharadwaj at yahoo.com Thu Jun 12 06:00:37 2008 From: nikhil.bbharadwaj at yahoo.com (nikhil bharadwaj) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 10, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: <20080611160042.7BFD461A16E@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <130716.54323.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi, Even we (Andhra Pradesh ambassadors) were looking for local tech speakers on fedora. We would like to conduct a Fedora community day at Hyderabad along with some tech stuffs like virtualizationn on fedora , USB creation,etc at the AP's Local Linux User Group. If anybody could turn up for this event; it would be great. Also if anyone could recommend somebody for this event too! Cheers, Nikhil Bharadwaj (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NikhilBharadwaj) fedora-india-request at redhat.com wrote: Send Fedora-india mailing list submissions to fedora-india at redhat.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fedora-india-request at redhat.com You can reach the person managing the list at fedora-india-owner at redhat.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Fedora-india digest..." Today's Topics: 1. List of events and looking for potential speakers / representatives (Sankarshan (????????)) 2. Zyxware and ILUG Trivandrum joins hands for Mandriva Linux Install Fest | Zyxware Technologies (Sankarshan (????????)) 3. Re: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting. JUNE 15th 0400 GMT (susmit shannigrahi) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:15:25 +0530 From: "Sankarshan (????????)" Subject: List of events and looking for potential speakers / representatives To: The Fedora Project Community in India Message-ID: <484EAFA5.3080704 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed The iLUG-Delhi folks have been following with their IPEC workshop by putting up a list of events at http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/CollegeExpo It would be nice for us to explore if there are representatives locally available who would be keen to be a voice of Fedora. ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:11:08 +0530 From: "Sankarshan (????????)" Subject: Zyxware and ILUG Trivandrum joins hands for Mandriva Linux Install Fest | Zyxware Technologies To: The Fedora Project Community in India Message-ID: <484EF4F4.6070905 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed http://www.zyxware.com/articles/2008/06/10/zyxware-and-ilug-trivandrum-joins-hands-for-mandriva-linux-install-fest Do we have anyone local who can put forward the Fedora message ? The install fest does have Fedora as an option for people to install, however, it would be nice to take it a bit further by providing some talks / demonstrations on the good things to show. ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:08:00 +0530 From: "susmit shannigrahi" Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting. JUNE 15th 0400 GMT To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com, "The Fedora Project Community in India" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi all, Really Nice to see that you all are interested. :) Thanks. I have updated the wiki page for the meeting. * The timing is here[1]. Please check with your local time. * The agenda is here[2]. Don't forget to update it before meeting. * Meeting will be held at #fedora-meeting on freenode. See you all there. :) [1] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2008&month=06&day=15&hour=04&min=0&sec=0 [2]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-06-15 -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ============================================= ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india End of Fedora-india Digest, Vol 10, Issue 8 ******************************************* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 12 10:04:29 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:34:29 +0530 Subject: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 10, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: <130716.54323.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <130716.54323.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4850F4AD.1010005@fedoraproject.org> nikhil bharadwaj wrote: > hi, > > Even we (Andhra Pradesh ambassadors) were looking for local tech > speakers on fedora. > > We would like to conduct a Fedora community day at Hyderabad along with > some tech stuffs like virtualizationn on fedora , USB creation,etc at > the AP's Local Linux User Group. > > If anybody could turn up for this event; it would be great. Also if > anyone could recommend somebody for this event too! If you can't get local people to be present at the event, it would be best to learn what you can about the technologies that you want to talk about and give a introductory talk on that. If you need help, ask. Rahul From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Thu Jun 12 14:24:00 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:54:00 +0530 Subject: Collecting, collating and acting upon event related information Message-ID: <48513180.7030804@gmail.com> Hi, Need some help with collecting, collating and acting upon event related information. Such information should include - event name, location, date, organizer contact, expected audience profile, local speaker available, local contact, expected talks, slides for talks This is to see how we can reach out to events via speakers who are local as opposed to asking the organizers or Fedora pay for travel and how we can pass along swag for talk. Can someone whip up a wiki page and then post it to the list so as to get folks to be aware of this ? Would doing it under http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RegionalTeams/India/ make sense ? ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 12 14:28:50 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:58:50 +0530 Subject: Collecting, collating and acting upon event related information In-Reply-To: <48513180.7030804@gmail.com> References: <48513180.7030804@gmail.com> Message-ID: <485132A2.2060405@fedoraproject.org> Sankarshan (????????) wrote: > Can someone whip up a wiki page and then post it to the list so as to > get folks to be aware of this ? Would doing it under > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RegionalTeams/India/ make sense ? We would need more visibility than that. Just do it under the main events page at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents This is linked from the frontpage of fp.o. Rahul From siddharth at techbugs.org Sat Jun 14 14:34:30 2008 From: siddharth at techbugs.org (Siddharth Upmanyu) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:04:30 +0530 Subject: FreeMedia India Funds Available Message-ID: Hi Friends, We have now INR 1000 available for FreeMedia India donated by Vandana Pandey/Vikram (Listed on FreeMedia page) I am expecting we can ship some 20+ CD/DVDs with it... I wanted to make a suggestion here... will it be helpful in encouraging ppl to contribute toward FreeMedia if we create a Page linking to FreeMedia/India listing contributors sorted by volume of contribution toward the program? Also please let me know if we have any of out local contacts facing trouble with seed content... Regards Siddharth From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sat Jun 14 15:03:03 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:33:03 +0530 Subject: REMINDER: APAC Ambassador Meeting tomorrow ! 2008-06-15 04:00 UTC Message-ID: Hi all, This mail is a reminder for the ambassadors meeting for all ambassadors from the APAC region. Of course all other ambassadors are invited, too. Please add your topic to the agenda at the wiki meeting page [1] before the meeting started. 2008-06-15 / 04:00 UTC Check for your local time here. Meet you all at irc.freenode.net - #fedora-meeting [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-06-15 [2] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2008&month=6&day=15&hour=04&min=0&sec=0 -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sat Jun 14 14:57:48 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:27:48 +0530 Subject: FreeMedia India Funds Available In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Exactly as I suggested, but are you sure that we can accept donation this way? There was a clause in CLA or somewhere that Ambassadors can not accept money for Fedora. If there is no such thing, I am the happiest :). Also we need to find a way to maintain accountability. Already an agenda for tomorrow's meeting. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Jun 14 15:16:56 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:46:56 +0530 Subject: FreeMedia India Funds Available In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4853E0E8.90302@fedoraproject.org> susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Exactly as I suggested, but are you sure that we can accept donation this way? > > There was a clause in CLA or somewhere that Ambassadors can not accept > money for Fedora. If there is no such thing, I am the happiest :). > > Also we need to find a way to maintain accountability. > > Already an agenda for tomorrow's meeting. CLA has no such clauses. In doubt, please read it. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Licenses/CLA Note that it is pretty tricky for Red Hat itself to accept donations but that isn't happening in this case. As long as funds are managed externally and done in a responsible way, we (collectively) are ok. Rahul From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sat Jun 14 15:19:18 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:49:18 +0530 Subject: FreeMedia India Funds Available In-Reply-To: <4853E0E8.90302@fedoraproject.org> References: <4853E0E8.90302@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > susmit shannigrahi wrote: >> >> Exactly as I suggested, but are you sure that we can accept donation this >> way? >> >> There was a clause in CLA or somewhere that Ambassadors can not accept >> money for Fedora. If there is no such thing, I am the happiest :). >> >> Also we need to find a way to maintain accountability. >> >> Already an agenda for tomorrow's meeting. > > CLA has no such clauses. In doubt, please read it. No CLA does not. Sorry for not remembering correctly. However, This link does http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Conduct#No_fund_requests "You are not authorized to collect funds on behalf of the Fedora Project or for any Fedora-related venture." -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Jun 14 15:24:06 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:54:06 +0530 Subject: FreeMedia India Funds Available In-Reply-To: References: <4853E0E8.90302@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4853E296.2030703@fedoraproject.org> susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > No CLA does not. Sorry for not remembering correctly. > > However, This link does > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Conduct#No_fund_requests > "You are not authorized to collect funds on behalf of the Fedora > Project or for any Fedora-related venture." I know that atleast for free media project, we have got donations in the past and ambassadors have sold goods to reimbursed costs. I am cc'ing a couple of people to clarify this point. Rahul From arnavkalra007 at gmail.com Sun Jun 15 04:41:01 2008 From: arnavkalra007 at gmail.com (Arnav Kalra) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:11:01 +0530 Subject: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: <20080614160036.0BA9B619D16@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20080614160036.0BA9B619D16@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <5ac533d50806142141o778fc3f8r672a9504060e2c1a@mail.gmail.com> can anybody tell me how i can download f9 everything spin on win server 2003 with jigdo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From siddharth at techbugs.org Sun Jun 15 05:26:16 2008 From: siddharth at techbugs.org (Siddharth Upmanyu) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:56:16 +0530 Subject: FreeMedia India Funds Available In-Reply-To: <4853E296.2030703@fedoraproject.org> References: <4853E0E8.90302@fedoraproject.org> <4853E296.2030703@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: :) as Rahul said.. this is not the first time for FreeMedia Program http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/Donation we can ofcource make this more effictive and transparent. also giving recognition to those ppl who are supporting the program can make drive more ppl to it. On 6/14/08, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > > > No CLA does not. Sorry for not remembering correctly. > > > > However, This link does > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Conduct#No_fund_requests > > "You are not authorized to collect funds on behalf of the Fedora > > Project or for any Fedora-related venture." > > > > I know that atleast for free media project, we have got donations in the > past and ambassadors have sold goods to reimbursed costs. I am cc'ing a > couple of people to clarify this point. > > Rahul > From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Jun 15 12:01:19 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:31:19 +0530 Subject: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: <5ac533d50806142141o778fc3f8r672a9504060e2c1a@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080614160036.0BA9B619D16@hormel.redhat.com> <5ac533d50806142141o778fc3f8r672a9504060e2c1a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4855048F.1060300@fedoraproject.org> Arnav Kalra wrote: > can anybody tell me how i can download f9 everything spin on win server > 2003 with jigdo > There is no jidgo client for Windows afaik so you would need a Linux system with jidgo installed. Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Jun 15 14:10:36 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 19:40:36 +0530 Subject: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: References: <20080614160036.0BA9B619D16@hormel.redhat.com> <5ac533d50806142141o778fc3f8r672a9504060e2c1a@mail.gmail.com> <4855048F.1060300@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <485522DC.6020604@fedoraproject.org> Susmit wrote: >>> can anybody tell me how i can download f9 everything spin on win server >>> 2003 with jigdo >>> >> There is no jidgo client for Windows afaik so you would need a Linux system >> with jidgo installed. > > > Err...I am not very sure, but I came across this link > http://atterer.net/jigdo/ > It says something called jigdo-lite for windows.. Does that work with jidgo templates in Fedora? Haven't tried it. Rahul From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sun Jun 15 14:25:16 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 19:55:16 +0530 Subject: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: <485522DC.6020604@fedoraproject.org> References: <20080614160036.0BA9B619D16@hormel.redhat.com> <5ac533d50806142141o778fc3f8r672a9504060e2c1a@mail.gmail.com> <4855048F.1060300@fedoraproject.org> <485522DC.6020604@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: > Does that work with jidgo templates in Fedora? Haven't tried it. /me don't have a win installation available. Arnav, can you please try and let us know? -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sun Jun 15 19:06:55 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:36:55 +0530 Subject: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: <485522DC.6020604@fedoraproject.org> References: <20080614160036.0BA9B619D16@hormel.redhat.com> <5ac533d50806142141o778fc3f8r672a9504060e2c1a@mail.gmail.com> <4855048F.1060300@fedoraproject.org> <485522DC.6020604@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> can anybody tell me how i can download f9 everything spin on win server >>>> 2003 with jigdo >>>> >>> There is no jidgo client for Windows afaik so you would need a Linux >>> system >>> with jidgo installed. >> >> >> Err...I am not very sure, but I came across this link >> http://atterer.net/jigdo/ >> It says something called jigdo-lite for windows.. > > Does that work with jidgo templates in Fedora? Haven't tried it. This is working _very_ nicely. :) I just tested it. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From arnavkalra007 at gmail.com Mon Jun 16 05:11:46 2008 From: arnavkalra007 at gmail.com (Arnav Kalra) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:41:46 +0530 Subject: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 10, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: <20080615160031.2EA4761A2B8@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20080615160031.2EA4761A2B8@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <5ac533d50806152211i5bf9f50bxb35de0cd49ddb56b@mail.gmail.com> i to dont have a win installation available but after 27 june i can try it on a virtual machine and tell you -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arnavkalra007 at gmail.com Mon Jun 16 05:21:25 2008 From: arnavkalra007 at gmail.com (Arnav Kalra) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:51:25 +0530 Subject: distribution Message-ID: <5ac533d50806152221u3df2a812t953e902dfac83bbf@mail.gmail.com> can we prepare a jigdo template for making a new spin or we have to use revisor -- arnav kalra (linux inside) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Jun 16 09:58:57 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:28:57 +0530 Subject: distribution In-Reply-To: <5ac533d50806152221u3df2a812t953e902dfac83bbf@mail.gmail.com> References: <5ac533d50806152221u3df2a812t953e902dfac83bbf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48563961.6070608@fedoraproject.org> Arnav Kalra wrote: > can we prepare a jigdo template for making a new spin or we have to use > revisor You can create Jidgo templates manually. Spins are usually distributed using other methods. Refer http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CustomSpins Rahul From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Jun 16 13:44:25 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:14:25 +0530 Subject: APAC Ambassadors Meeting - IRC Log 2008-06-15 Message-ID: APAC ambassadors meeting starts now! * KageSenshi is now known as IzharFirdaus * G__81 is here * hanthana in Your FAS usernames please MagieAntonio * IzharFirdaus is now known as izhar HehersonPagcaliwagan * G__81 is balajig8 susmit EngelsAntonio * G__81 is balajig8 Leroylim * izhar is izhar balajig8 snavin * izhar is now known as KageSenshi anyone else? ok. Our first agenda, how to target colleges for potential contributors ok susmit before we start one quick question on the number of people at the moment yeah ok go ahead susmit 7 oh ok thanks yeah susmit go ahead with the agenda :) Yes there should be something interesting for the students to get motivated ! Hmm how about make use of the FreeMedia program? free media ? yea freemedia. free DVDs and such. will you eleborate please? ! yeah elaborate it leroylim hmm, perhaps focvs the FreeMedia program temporarily more on college students. give them free DVDs and installation media. leroylim, in the sense ? leroylim, ok ... but that gives access to the media. what turns them into contributors? hmm yeah exactly herson i'll have to think more about that. eof in college, we have this free access to distos distros ok ... agreed..go on please however, the challenge is to make more people aware on how to use them herson, yes true to an extent ! yeah go ahead perhaps organize talks on linux, and organize training programs too that's what i'm thinking complement that with the free media program generate more interest yea, i think so too. more users if used properly with the freemedia. could generate interest. in the end more contributors yeah susmit if you see here the common thing is to arrange on more Fedora conferences exactly nice..theoretically. But what people want to see is what they get at the end :) in India as you had indicated in the previous mail that the Conferences are too less * KageSenshi agree with susmit susmit, so i feel that users become potential contributors well in Singapore, i don't see much fedora conferences too. ! May be a certificate or something similar will help hanthana so targeting more users would end up in having more contributors not practically sorry to say ! ! in Sri Lanka www.linux.lk our lug is conducting more and more small events great. but are they regularly followed up? so, it is a good thing to increase the awareness ! I mean a basic workshop followed by a more advanced one? simply giving a DVD is not a good solution hmm perhaps a Fedora Certification? as many ppl take it as it free Fedora certification programme? after hanthana finishes, magie..after him G_81 yes giving DVDs alone does not help i think magie want to add something... * ianwelle1 (n=ianwelle at 66.232.222.84) has joined #fedora-meeting still most of countries canot hanndle FreeMedia magie please so, do we have enough resources to manage Certification prog' i was thinking more about linkages * ianweller has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) and LPI also there magie would you eleborate? best thing write and talk as much as possible, eof for example hanthana, may be online certification?? we were able to collaborate with some colleges last year to make open source part of their thesis so the students became contributors to several open source projects ! susmit, in Sri Lanka no body care about MCQ type exams, as it not mesuring your knowledge well magie, do you have the communications with the colleges? yes practicle exam gives more value if yes, can you upload that somewhere, so that we can reusse that? will have to ask for permission sure, if yes, that will be a great thing we were discussing about a official approach to the colleges G_81 yeah thanks ! i happen to speak to few of the college students last week. and i found that they dont know the starting point on how to contribute. The statistics were as follows the talk i had was with respect to fedora. It was a friendly talk and not an official talk some people say around 30 % knew what fedora was and what we are doing * MicroBob (n=Robert at fedora/pdpc.sustaining.BobJensen) has joined #Fedora-Meeting Some around 40 % didnt know what fedora was and hows it linked to RH some around 30 % didnt know what it was if you take these 3 categories lets take the first one the first 30 % who knew what it was a bit faster please :) people were interested in getting to know what it was more. Lot of people said they didnt know the starting point. ie i got same questions like can i contribute, am i eligible to contribute so the anwer here is what i feel is in India More Workshops/Conferences in colleges point 1 point 2 is Free Media Programme in those conferences make it more easy as they can start to use the stuff directly * ianwelle1 is now known as ianweller Point 3 The college students have projects and they dont know what to choose. Lot of people know OSS but dont know what project. So these people could be pulled in for Projects ie the Final semester projects could be done in Fedora I am more interested in the third one. yeah ! you want me to explain it bit further born2linux Engineering students have projects to complete G_81 a moment please +1 yeah sure born2linux, go ahead lets see what others say what we need to do is identify where contribution will be needed most to narrow down the projects that the students can choose from i collaborated with magie in her college linkage project they focused on the sahana disaster management system and found out that a mibile app was needed so the college students contributed one mobile we can do the same for fedora ! hanthana, you wanted to talk :) then G_81 susmit, yes go on please hope RH India have internship program better contact them for more help and few moths ago s/moths/months hmm, that RH's internal thing, we have no saying there.. is not it? I Felix and Rahul Sundharam they have created Tamil Spin and distribute along with a IT Magazin it might be a good point nice...can we replicate that by our community also? all ways students prefer something new I don't want to send every burden to RedHat..they are doing a lot :) * azneita (n=herson at 124.107.57.22) has joined #fedora-meeting as I know there are many spins for Indic languages yes yes there are G_81 so, ambassadors can get the help of them and send them to relavant places eof * born2linux has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) * magie has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) ok thanks * magie (n=engels at 124.104.101.239) has joined #fedora-meeting G_81 ? if you see the point hanthana was discussing about, is related to the point 3 that i gave. Creating a distro in a language is quite a hard one so if we can choose some topics on what the students need or let the students decide on what they want to work on we could form projects and ask them to contribute for fedora * born2linux (n=engels at 124.104.101.239) has joined #fedora-meeting well, creating a distro is not very hard, thanks to revisor, but rest we agree lets say a student wants to create a distro, instead of he looking for whats to be done, we could offer him help i use the word mentors here mentors play a very vital role here if we need to have the college-fedora interaction G__81, ceating distro in alanguage is not hard if you have translated gnome, OO and Fx,etc yes i agree for a college student whos new is still a hard one ok..just an example..just an example i did have a college talk so i am sure how many students know how to create a new one susmit, so we need to launch a mentors programme what others say? this programme could be really good on how we could mentor new people it could be college guys, it could be anybody for that matter even Ubuntu has a programme on the same lines and thats one reason for its short time success too so we could have a mentors programme engage new students and get in touch with the mentor straight away eof others, your opinions please? ! born2linux G__81's suggestion sounds good +1 ! +1 but perhaps we can make being a mentor part of an ambassador's job? just perhaps ! so we don't have to create a new programme eof G_81 thanks for considering mine. Making Mentors as part of ambassadors is difficult. An Ambassador could be a mentor thats entirely left to him there is a mentor prograam already don't worry susmit, oh great so its just extending it fully sorry, kind of lost... mentor on college project? ! i didnt know that we had one so we need to publicise that or within fedora? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mentors yes i did see that now so we need to publicise the mentors programme azneita, no, In general ? born2linux thats it and with the new students i am sure it would take off eof G__81, so this is the same thing you want? same thing ? ! azneita the existingt mentor programme is the same metor programme that you were suggesting earlier? not exactly no not exactly the mentors program is for mentoring prospective ambassadors ok yes...but we can extend that if we all agree yes exactly that was what i was talking about ok got it ! ahh https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mentors/NewMentors i also thought that it was a bit different, which is why is suggested integrating G__81's suggestion with FA FA ? ambassaors oh ok but yes let me give you an example wait a sec please ok now that the possibility of extending the mentor programme is here, +1 to that how many of you do agree? +1 +1 .. +1 i wouldn't mind mentoring, +1 + 1 +1 :) if most does, let's write down the exact steps. 1. Identifying the mentors and their areas ! magie coordinate with marketing so people know about the extended mentor program? sure. ! G_81 and important thing to note here is the mentors name should be associated with the project when a person wants to join a project * herson has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) if you take Ubuntu and if you want to join the 5 a day bug squad you could see the name mentioned there as a mentor. We need something like that so that the person (student) can get in touch with the person whos the mentor rather than asking "whats that i ve to do ?" yes. eof So the first step? * wariola_ (n=wariola at 118.100.21.146) has joined #fedora-meeting Listing mentors. yes second? people? then find the people who want to act as a mentor for projects +1 G_81, thats the first step. ie something like for project X "Mr Y " would be the mentor no we could have a page for the list of mentors the second could be the mapping along with their expertise..cut the complexity make it simple ? * herson (n=herson at 124.107.57.22) has joined #fedora-meeting the first page should contain a table with mentors, their expertise and projects available so just one page to show the mentors and the projects they are associated with ok perfect that makes sense :) too * azneita has quit ("Leaving") ! KageSenshi KageSenshi ? for projects that we have control over its webpages, I would suggest the project to also link to the mentor list .. as usually, potential contributors will visit the project page first .. having the mentor list separated might caused they don't know mentors exist good idea. +1 +1 +1 ! G_81 +1 we need to be fast...the meeting closes in 20 minutes yes the mentor has to be linked in that webpage. If a new person visits the web page he could probably see the mentors name (wiki URL) and probably we could give a link there to see the available list of mentors eof we will work on minute details later ok please work on the framework ok then after listing the mentors, we need to find the timeline suiltable for mentors and students 3 months or something like that? yeah important time period is important most colleges expect something at the end of 6 months :) so timeline is important we shall refine it on the list. yeah just an example :) go ahead anyone else any sugessions? * wariola_ is now known as wariola maybe we can assign point persons on this initiative to keep the ball rolling off-list and as ambassadors we need to take this further by saying that there are mentors so join ! :) something like that :) we will mail it to the list when posting the meeting summary so third step? how to certify successful...evaluation yeah can the students have interactions with mentors? they must is face to face possible ? :) i agree depends on the mentor :) may be...not very important though evaluvation is must and periodic evaluvations are important ie a chunk of work to be shown in X days others? could be decided on the days and the scope of work looks good for now otherwise at the end of the first month we cannot trace the progress of the student. ok..then last thing what to present if sucessfully passed? I see this as a project so if a mentor has 3 students he can prepare kind of management sheet and trace the progress of each student susmit, a certificate from fedora that the student has participated in the programme and completed successfully as part of the project. and a small give away? +1 +1 yeah sure G_81, can you please create a wiki page on this? +1 yeah sure done I shall take the proposal to the list and famsco lets see how other people reacts great :) susmit, what should the wiki contain as of now our point of discussions here go on, we will refine it if necessary ok so ill create a page with the points that we discussed * wariola has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) techbugs it not here today, so can not discuss freemedia today anyone have anything more to say? if not we close hmm ok so no discussion on free media ? will be of no use, as the person who says most on these is absent hmm ok 5 so where do you want the wiki page to be The URL create it under Ambassador right now we can always move it if req hmm.. ok So we close here.. yeah Thank you all for being here and giving your valuable suggestions susmit, i ll contact you if i need some details on this :) sure Have a nice day all :) susmit, thanks for leading the meet magie, welcome thanks and you all too thanks all susmit, thanks for leading the meet "see" you all again soon :) xD same with you guys. G_81, welcome and see you all :) yeah same hre cya all APAC ambassadors meeting ends! -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From arnavkalra007 at gmail.com Mon Jun 16 14:29:49 2008 From: arnavkalra007 at gmail.com (Arnav Kalra) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:59:49 +0530 Subject: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 10, Issue 13 In-Reply-To: <20080616134449.914BF6187D3@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20080616134449.914BF6187D3@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <5ac533d50806160729x87430e8i2175d10723bdf01a@mail.gmail.com> yes we can have an online certification program like the one on linux.org. we can also start distributing videos which are a mix of cheese and istanbul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Jun 16 17:53:59 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:23:59 +0530 Subject: APAC Ambassadors Meeting - IRC Log 2008-06-15 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Balaji, what is the status of the page you were creating? Any link so far? -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From arnavkalra007 at gmail.com Tue Jun 17 08:04:20 2008 From: arnavkalra007 at gmail.com (Arnav Kalra) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:34:20 +0530 Subject: distribution Message-ID: <5ac533d50806170104l3be44d16vbfdf68945d5dadc3@mail.gmail.com> my friend wants a way with which he can download fedora for an old Pentium 3. can you help in which way of downloading should i suggest. -- arnav kalra (linux inside) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saurabh at beginbyte.org Tue Jun 17 09:31:02 2008 From: saurabh at beginbyte.org (Saurabh Bathe) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:01:02 +0530 Subject: distribution In-Reply-To: <5ac533d50806170104l3be44d16vbfdf68945d5dadc3@mail.gmail.com> References: <5ac533d50806170104l3be44d16vbfdf68945d5dadc3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48578456.6050104@beginbyte.org> Arnav Kalra wrote: > my friend wants a way with which he can download fedora for an old > Pentium 3. can you help in which way of downloading should i suggest. > Well, I think I do not really get the question. But AFAIK none of the download methods (http,ftp,rsync from servers that allow it, bottorrent, jigdo) have any dependence on processor. He can use whatever suits him best depending on what bandwidth he has. --Saurabh From arnavkalra007 at gmail.com Tue Jun 17 16:54:00 2008 From: arnavkalra007 at gmail.com (Arnav Kalra) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:24:00 +0530 Subject: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 10, Issue 15 In-Reply-To: <20080617160047.A0B4E619EB9@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20080617160047.A0B4E619EB9@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <5ac533d50806170954i53bee84dl2598e6c755c7bc9f@mail.gmail.com> he can only have 200 to 600 mb bandwidth -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Tue Jun 17 17:50:44 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:20:44 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: APAC Ambassadors Meeting - IRC Log 2008-06-15 In-Reply-To: <6dd1343e0806171025v25a543a2if36b142d07013630@mail.gmail.com> References: <6dd1343e0806162211n58f0c5a0h4ac3009e950744fe@mail.gmail.com> <6dd1343e0806171025v25a543a2if36b142d07013630@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Please find the link for the page. Please go through it and give me > your suggestions. I hope i ve covered almost all the points that we > discussed in the past meeting and hope its fine though. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora-Student_Mentor_Programme Nicely done, I am adding a few more lines. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Wed Jun 18 04:40:29 2008 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:10:29 +0530 Subject: Fwd: incoming potential breakage in rawhide. In-Reply-To: <20080617181128.GA13192@redhat.com> References: <20080617181128.GA13192@redhat.com> Message-ID: <3170f42f0806172140he3c2874gf3c2e1b2259c8aea@mail.gmail.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dave Jones Date: 2008/6/17 Subject: incoming potential breakage in rawhide. To: fedora-devel-list at redhat.com Tomorrows rawhide enables something we've been saying "Hey, we should do that" for about 3-4 releases now. By default, booting up will enable glibc's malloc perturbing. * Apps that expect allocated memory to be zeroed which are calling malloc() instead of calloc() will break. * Apps using memory after it's been free()'d will break. All somewhat akin to the alloc debugging we enable in the kernel each rawhide. This will cause currently silent bugs to make apps abort() instead. There's slight performance overhead, but hey, it's rawhide, we'll turn it off again later. You'll be able to turn it off in /etc/sysconfig/mcheck But, if stuff starts breaking left and right for you, don't just disable this, please file bugs! There's one known bug which has been outstanding for a while, which is guaranteed to hit any fedora committer using x86-64. 'make upload' causes curl to break.. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429175 Hopefully we can finally get this fixed this release. Dave -- http://www.codemonkey.org.uk -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jun 18 08:51:01 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:21:01 +0530 Subject: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4858CC75.3030600@gmail.com> susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Generally the final/pre-final year engineering students need to do > some project work on a topic. > What I personally saw that they desperately search for one. > > we can make a lot of new contributors if we provide them with a > project to work, some guidence > and may be a certificate at the end. (As they say, target this segment :)) Quite by chance this was the same topic that I broached to Spot yesterday afternoon. And it turns out that a good place to push these potential contributors would be towards doing "Fedora QE" starting up with learning how to triage, process and work the bug queue and additionally coming up with Test Cases. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jun 18 22:51:32 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:21:32 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. In-Reply-To: <8a9a812b0806180159l4a785023ya4d4041971069de3@mail.gmail.com> References: <4858CC75.3030600@gmail.com> <8a9a812b0806180159l4a785023ya4d4041971069de3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48599174.9090502@gmail.com> BiGYaN wrote: > As a student what can we do in this regard? ... Most students of my > Univ, (University of Calcutta) are not interested in Linux, because of > unfamiliarity with the system. Most of them do all their project work in > Visual Studio, as that is really easy. > > What can we do about that? ... any suggestions? > > I personally feel that educating the students through conferences and > meetings can be a good start. We can even approach the HoD with requests > for hands-on sessions, where development in Fedora will be taught. > > What do u say guys? Santanu Sinha (from iLUG-Cal and other places) has been trying to do this at CU for a while. Debarshi participated in a GCC workshop as well, so yes, this is something that needs to begin. But, in a structured manner, getting the content to be delivered done up first and then approaching the HoDs and friends at right places to see what can be done. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jun 18 22:54:16 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:24:16 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. In-Reply-To: <898726.15333.qm@web8405.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <898726.15333.qm@web8405.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48599218.2090609@gmail.com> ankur sinha wrote: > The idea is really great.. Im a college going student just entering 3rd semester in Computer sciences .. and am already looking for programmes and training to add to my CV for a better job.. My college, Manipal Institute of technology, Manipal, India, has just recently become a part of the Sun academic Initiative, which has some perks.. Such an educational programme from Fedora would be more than a dream come true.. A lot of us go through books and material but teaching yourself is not as efficient as a mentor telling you what to do and helping you apply your knowledge practically.. Please give this programme thought.. A few hours a week will be enough from the mentors and there will be plenty of students who are interested and want to learn and contribute.. Having a mentor is a good idea. What is a first step is the Fedora Project folks fixing up the areas wherein it seems that a communication disjoint exists. For example, in your case, what were the issues that you faced when you wanted to do a project for Fedora ? ps: you would like to fix the word wrap on your mail client :) -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jun 18 22:55:11 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:25:11 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. In-Reply-To: References: <3c766be00806180200o53b3154cgce57376a0602a0c5@mail.gmail.com> <898726.15333.qm@web8405.mail.in.yahoo.com> <8a9a812b0806180244q55dbf0e5t7d42bbc304ecdd10@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4859924F.6050006@gmail.com> susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Nice, so may we start off with University of Calcutta? > I can arrange for a few speakers and support (Media, brochures etc..) ACK :) -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jun 18 22:55:45 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:25:45 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. In-Reply-To: References: <4858CC75.3030600@gmail.com> <3c766be00806180200o53b3154cgce57376a0602a0c5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48599271.6030800@gmail.com> Kushal Das wrote: > Look at this http://wiki.dgplug.org/index.php/SummerTraining You need to get this blogged ;) -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jun 18 22:57:52 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:27:52 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. In-Reply-To: <6dd1343e0806180216h73791c68w409ad79d96a935a2@mail.gmail.com> References: <4858CC75.3030600@gmail.com> <8a9a812b0806180159l4a785023ya4d4041971069de3@mail.gmail.com> <3c766be00806180204kc005053u20641998dee01928@mail.gmail.com> <6dd1343e0806180216h73791c68w409ad79d96a935a2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <485992F0.7050605@gmail.com> "G" wrote: >> i think that is very valid and practical solution and a very obvious >> observation that most of choose to overlook, students here in india dont >> contribute because they know so little about linux, i am talking about the >> general mass, and they are sckeptical about it, first we need to increase >> the familiarty with the system only that will lead to an increase in >> contributions from the students, i can also approach my HoD with a request >> for Hands on sessions on development in linux and the ease of use of it, >> that will be a good place to start, coupled with the Mentoring program it >> may increase contributions to the community > > Yes exactly thats the situation and conferences and workshops have to > be started as part of the mentor programme. Ambassadors play a very > vital role here. The familiarity would be increased only through > conferences and workshops and this awareness would be converted using > mentor programme when the student wants to get into the project. The bottomline is that they might be unfamiliar with Linux - but are they equipped with the knowledge of the tools and languages that would allow them to contribute ? So, for example, would they be able to handle stuff like merge review requests or take up packaging for things that are on the wish list of "wish i had this software packaged for fedora" ... -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jun 18 23:01:45 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:31:45 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: APAC Ambassadors Meeting - IRC Log 2008-06-15 In-Reply-To: <6dd1343e0806171025v25a543a2if36b142d07013630@mail.gmail.com> References: <6dd1343e0806162211n58f0c5a0h4ac3009e950744fe@mail.gmail.com> <6dd1343e0806171025v25a543a2if36b142d07013630@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <485993D9.6060000@gmail.com> "G" wrote: > Please find the link for the page. Please go through it and give me > your suggestions. I hope i ve covered almost all the points that we > discussed in the past meeting and hope its fine though. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora-Student_Mentor_Programme Some students desire that they may be provided with a certificate from a company at the end of the project - how does that requirement fit into this program ? Additionally, how would the mentors be tracking the projects ? And, estimating that the objective of the projects were met at the end of the projected duration ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Thu Jun 19 02:25:07 2008 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:55:07 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. In-Reply-To: <48599174.9090502@gmail.com> References: <4858CC75.3030600@gmail.com> <8a9a812b0806180159l4a785023ya4d4041971069de3@mail.gmail.com> <48599174.9090502@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3170f42f0806181925t9f582cdkf0660fe8c69c98b@mail.gmail.com> >> As a student what can we do in this regard? ... Most students of my Univ, >> (University of Calcutta) are not interested in Linux, because of >> unfamiliarity with the system. Most of them do all their project work in >> Visual Studio, as that is really easy. > Santanu Sinha (from iLUG-Cal and other places) has been trying to do this at > CU for a while. Debarshi participated in a GCC workshop as well Atleast Rajabazar Science college's B.Tech course offered by the Electronics & Radiophysics department has something called "UNIX system administration", while many other colleges have one subject which is somehow related to Unix. Don't these help in increasing familiarity with the system? Regards, Debarshi From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Thu Jun 19 04:44:50 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:14:50 +0530 Subject: Page for tracking local Media requests. Message-ID: I have created a page under LocalContacts[1] page to track the requests fulfilled by local contacts. A single person is often calling up all the contacts. :) The page is here. Please fill in the data when you fulfill a request. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts/LocalRequests [1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From arnavkalra007 at gmail.com Thu Jun 19 07:49:39 2008 From: arnavkalra007 at gmail.com (Arnav Kalra) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:19:39 +0530 Subject: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 10, Issue 17 In-Reply-To: <20080619022523.7C150619FC3@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20080619022523.7C150619FC3@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <5ac533d50806190049n6f9d5bcs2ab402bf2ef05132@mail.gmail.com> We can make a live and installable cd which contains emacs eclipse documentation and some project programs with which students start contacting the mentors and a new project is born -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Thu Jun 19 09:21:47 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:51:47 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. In-Reply-To: <5ac533d50806190039k2838c8f2xcf0e0ceb7f1a4ab2@mail.gmail.com> References: <4858CC75.3030600@gmail.com> <3c766be00806180200o53b3154cgce57376a0602a0c5@mail.gmail.com> <5ac533d50806190039k2838c8f2xcf0e0ceb7f1a4ab2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <485A252B.8050306@gmail.com> Arnav Kalra wrote: > The ideas are good. We can also have a new SIG for this. First start > with school children, give them a live spin with some games , painting > and educational stuff Would you like to start this activity by making a list of things that can be put into such a spin ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Thu Jun 19 09:24:06 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:54:06 +0530 Subject: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 10, Issue 17 In-Reply-To: <5ac533d50806190049n6f9d5bcs2ab402bf2ef05132@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080619022523.7C150619FC3@hormel.redhat.com> <5ac533d50806190049n6f9d5bcs2ab402bf2ef05132@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <485A25B6.4090305@gmail.com> Arnav Kalra wrote: > We can make a live and installable cd which contains emacs eclipse > documentation and some project programs with which students start > contacting the mentors and a new project is born You really do need to change the subject line in a digest mail :( for example, in this mail it wasn't easy to figure out what you were replying to till one clicks the content. Secondly, is the problem one of lack of access to proper bits and pieces of knowledge or one that is of not having the skills ? If there were such a CD that can be done - will you be stepping up and putting in place a package list ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From arnavkalra007 at gmail.com Fri Jun 20 05:04:36 2008 From: arnavkalra007 at gmail.com (Arnav Kalra) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:34:36 +0530 Subject: kids spin Message-ID: <5ac533d50806192204k2455d055vccac0a0c031dc70@mail.gmail.com> yes we can take help from edubuntu packaging department on the apps. for programing we can use the utilities in olpc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri Jun 20 05:11:06 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:41:06 +0530 Subject: kids spin In-Reply-To: <5ac533d50806192204k2455d055vccac0a0c031dc70@mail.gmail.com> References: <5ac533d50806192204k2455d055vccac0a0c031dc70@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Arnav Kalra wrote: > yes we can take help from edubuntu packaging department on the apps. for > programing we can use the utilities in olpc We have done sort of same work[1] on this regard, I am cc ing the persons. Hope they still have the package list with them. :) [1] http://indradg.randomink.org/blog/archives/79 -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sat Jun 21 06:36:43 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:06:43 +0530 Subject: Possibility of a Mirror at Manipal? Message-ID: Hi, As you all three are from Manipal and as we came to know that you have a number of Fedora users, What is the possibility to establish a Fedora mirror (may be internal, may be external) at your institute? If your Institute has low bandwidth, you may go for an internal mirror which won't need much bandwidth. If your Institute has moderate bandwidth, you may even go public. If you give this idea a thought (even an internal one), and take up with your administration, it will be much beneficial for Fedora as we have shortage of mirrors in India. And I promise to extend all help possible. Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sat Jun 21 06:49:15 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:19:15 +0530 Subject: Fw: Re: Possibility of a Mirror at Manipal? In-Reply-To: <343449.85505.qm@web8413.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <343449.85505.qm@web8413.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ankur sinha Date: Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 12:14 PM Subject: Fw: Re: Possibility of a Mirror at Manipal? To: ankur at ankurs.com, pankdh6006 at gmail.com, susmit shannigrahi --- On Sat, 21/6/08, ankur sinha wrote: From: ankur sinha Subject: Re: Possibility of a Mirror at Manipal? To: "susmit shannigrahi" Date: Saturday, 21 June, 2008, 12:12 PM hi, It is an excellent thought.. However we will have to talk this over with the HOD of the department.. We are currently on vacation and it might not be easy to communicate with him now.. I will give it a try though.. Btw this will be the first mirror we'll aid in putting up a mirror so youll have to describe and explain the entire process.. So that the mirror is put up and we learn something new.. :-) Currently im going to google and see what i can learn from there.. regards, Ankur --- On Sat, 21/6/08, susmit shannigrahi wrote: From: susmit shannigrahi Subject: Possibility of a Mirror at Manipal? To: ankur at ankurs.com, pankdh6006 at gmail.com, sanjay_ankur at yahoo..co.in Cc: "Sankarshan da" , "The Fedora Project Community in India" Date: Saturday, 21 June, 2008, 12:06 PM Hi, As you all three are from Manipal and as we came to know that you have a number of Fedora users, What is the possibility to establish a Fedora mirror (may be internal, may be external) at your institute? If your Institute has low bandwidth, you may go for an internal mirror which won't need much bandwidth. If your Institute has moderate bandwidth, you may even go public. If you give this idea a thought (even an internal one), and take up with your administration, it will be much beneficial for Fedora as we have shortage of mirrors in India. And I promise to extend all help possible. Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= ________________________________ Check out the all-new face of Yahoo! India. Click here. ________________________________ Messenger blocked? Want to chat? Here is the solution. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sat Jun 21 07:02:18 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:32:18 +0530 Subject: Possibility of a Mirror at Manipal? In-Reply-To: <46c1230806202354v250f8785yd11cc37c051730af@mail.gmail.com> References: <46c1230806202354v250f8785yd11cc37c051730af@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 12:24 PM, jd hs wrote: > Actually me and AnkurShrivastava have been in talks with the network admin > of manipal for establishing a local repo for an almost a year but due to > network upgrades including increase in bandwidth not impelmented as yet ,he > has requested us to wait till August end . Lets Hope For The Best > > > --DhananjaySingh But why does that affects establishing a internal mirror? Internally, it will be operated over a 100Mbps Ethernet. So what's keeping you? If downloading the content initially is a bit large, it will take around 55G initially, but you can do that at night over a couple of weeks. If you need, I can even send it over DVD. :) PS: Please cc all the contacts, not only me. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sat Jun 21 07:03:44 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:33:44 +0530 Subject: Possibility of a Mirror at Manipal? In-Reply-To: <405174.95176.qm@web8415.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <405174.95176.qm@web8415.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > It is an excellent thought.. However we will have to talk this over with the > HOD of the department.. We are currently on vacation and it might not be > easy to communicate with him now.. I will give it a try though.. Nice :) >Btw this > will be the first mirror we'll aid in putting up a mirror so youll have to > describe and explain the entire process.. So that the mirror is put up and > we learn something new.. :-) Sure, no problem with that. > Currently im going to google and see what i can learn from there.. Let me give you a few pointers. [1] man page of rsync [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sat Jun 21 17:29:16 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:59:16 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. In-Reply-To: <6dd1343e0806210935wd2d19ffr13b38ac4c6e6180f@mail.gmail.com> References: <6dd1343e0806210935wd2d19ffr13b38ac4c6e6180f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > > I guess now we could start some ground work on how it could be done > and how to move it forward. What do you say ? My idea is like this (will upload to the wiki), Please review. AT FEDORA: * Contributors suggest potential projects. * Reviewed by peers, review committee. * Listing accepted Projects . * Please note: "Projects" does not mean coding only. It means whatever is useful for Fedora and community as a whole. For example, A few tentative projects, other than coding may be "Creating an BN_IN live cd/Creating a kids spin/Translating fp.o in BN_IN " * Assigning mentors and backup mentors. * Fixing up timing and duration of project. * Evaluation by mentor and review committee. AT THE INSTITUTES: * Approach the institutes "Officially". * Organise seminar/workshop at institutes. A lot of students will come and participate. Most of them are potential users. * Follow that up with another advanced workshop. Here you can identify the potential contributors. * Now let these selected students know about the mailing lists, irc and help them identifying their areas of interest. * Give them a small and easy test, only to identify their willingness and eagerness to work. * Assign them projects. * Award them for good work. This is a very rough draft, please help improving them. If you have any question, please add it to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora-Student_Mentor_Programme#Issues_to_be_resolved Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sun Jun 22 07:31:53 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:01:53 +0530 Subject: Possibility of a Mirror at Manipal? In-Reply-To: <717269.80153.qm@web8408.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <46c1230806212304q37d62768we592501ff02d1075@mail.gmail.com> <717269.80153.qm@web8408.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > The way you people write and behave > wouldnt encourage anyone to work with you.. so much for your team work > skills WHICH I HOPE YOU KNOW IS AN IMPORTANT REQUIREMENT FOR AN > AMBASSADOR > > Also i assume youve used the internet long enough to know that CAPITALS > INDICATE SHOUTING AND SHOULD NOT BE USED.. > > Well you seem to be asking a lot of questions for someone who's been in > manipal for a longer period ,if you had been in contact with LUG you would > be aware of our efforts to make the local lan repo. You should be sharing > your ideas and resources in trying to help people getting familliar with > linux , most people dont care for command line usage they just like clicking > environment of windows ,hence they don't quite go along with the idea. I > hope you do know that , this is the goal of an ambassador. > > As for your questions the network admin (U DIDNT KNO MIT HAD A NETWORK > ADMIN ?) is not available in holidays , > THE OPTIC FIBRE IS FOR COMPLETE MANIPAL (INCLUDING KMC,MCODS,ETC..) Hence > when established the repo will be for all . Again if you had come to LUG > meetings you would know that students from sides other than engineering > contacted us(LUG). > > For other technecalities i suggest you wait till we all reach manipal , > since ankur srivastava is going much before me he can tell you the > situation. Guys, remember that you are sending these mail to an all india-list. So everyone is watching you. :) So what outside people will generally comment is that the LUG at manipal is torn apart by internal conflicts and their prospect to do anything good is very low. Will that enhance your reputation ? Be a bit patient, sort out the differences between yourselves internally and work together, there is no point quarrelling, there are so much good works to do!!! Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From ankur at ankurs.com Sun Jun 22 08:54:54 2008 From: ankur at ankurs.com (Ankur Shrivastava) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:24:54 +0530 Subject: Possibility of a Mirror at Manipal? In-Reply-To: <734258.52895.qm@web8404.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <46c1230806220103l27344b9ke73d9807c8557e04@mail.gmail.com> <734258.52895.qm@web8404.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Now you are talking this is what i was talking about to work together and Dhananjay and i are talking about LUG so seriously because that is the very first place where we need to target and under that we can do a ot of things also i dont think you know about how LUG was formed, it was really hard for Lug to be formed in Manipal coz of so much restrictions but still it was formed in November last year, meet me some time and i will tell you the whole story and will discuss what all we can do On 6/22/08, ankur sinha wrote: > hi,lets put it this way.. lets go back to college and work together on our > goals.. looking forward to working with you all.. > regards,Ankur > --- On Sun, 22/6/08, jd hs wrote: > From: jd hs > Subject: Re: Possibility of a Mirror at Manipal? > To: sanjay_ankur at yahoo.co.in, "susmit shannigrahi" > , ankur at ankurs.com, fedora-india at redhat.com > Date: Sunday, 22 June, 2008, 1:33 PM > > Well you didn't join LUG its your missed opportunity to interact , yes i > know caps is for SHOUTING and what is this gotta do with the other ankur? As > for Network Admin: Mr. Satish Kamath ( i had been reffering to your second > post) . I don't really have any means of contacting him from here. > > > Regards Dhananjay > > P.S.-I respect your views and concerns also , it's just that the network > managment (wifi) has been quite pathetic. > > > > > Messenger blocked? Want to chat? Go to > http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Jun 23 03:47:44 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:17:44 +0530 Subject: On vaccation till sunday. Message-ID: Hi, I shall be on vacation till sunday with no connectivity, please drop a mail if you need. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Mon Jun 23 07:51:52 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:21:52 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction-New FA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <485F5618.4050802@gmail.com> Prakhar Agarwal wrote: > I have just joined the Fedora Ambassador Group. I'm Senior Year > Under-graduate student from India with major IT. I have been using > fedora from the time I started using Linux, be it university labs or PC. > I really love Fedora and have been involved in promoting it as a user. Welcome on board :) -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Tue Jun 24 05:24:46 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:54:46 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. In-Reply-To: <5ac533d50806232214i386d14b0g5078df7d32b71e3c@mail.gmail.com> References: <6dd1343e0806210935wd2d19ffr13b38ac4c6e6180f@mail.gmail.com> <6dd1343e0806230935i3318ccc0x548a72400e3afc5f@mail.gmail.com> <5ac533d50806232214i386d14b0g5078df7d32b71e3c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4860851E.4060302@gmail.com> Arnav Kalra wrote: > I want to make a fedora kid spin can anybody help me. I had posted some > ideas earlier 1] are all the packages that you propose to be in the spin available through Fedora Package System ? 2] if the answer to 1] above is no, do you have a list of packages that you wish were in Fedora ? 3] moving on from 2], do you have a kickstart file ready that can be used to come up with a spin ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Tue Jun 24 16:36:03 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:06:03 +0530 Subject: What would you do if you had more cycles? (Seneca and Fedora) - Chris Tyler's Blog Message-ID: <48612273.9050806@gmail.com> http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/121-What-would-you-do-if-you-had-more-cycles-Seneca-and-Fedora.html -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Tue Jun 24 23:50:48 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 05:20:48 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction-New FA In-Reply-To: <8140ab7e0806241328h4f66c1aeh97a877a95e5a1ea4@mail.gmail.com> References: <8140ab7e0806241328h4f66c1aeh97a877a95e5a1ea4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48618858.3070106@gmail.com> Welcome. ~sankarshan rajan vaish wrote: > I am Rajan Vaish from India.A Computer Science Major currently pursuing > my B.S (4th year) from Jaypee University of Information > Technology,Solan,India .I have been programming in C & C++ for last 3 > years and lately started working on Java.Apart from the same I have also > worked on technologies like .NET(using C#),AJAX some PHP & J2EE. > I have worked on UNIX and basic Shell Programming .Latter I was > introduced to Linux world in College's Networking Lab,where on Fedora > using C programs we were taught to Network(LAN).I have also used Linux > for Compiler design Labs using LEX and YACC tools . > Lately by participating at Google Summer of Code,I got an opportunity to > intern for OLPC ( One Laptop Per Child ) and to develop a Geography > teaching tool for children using Open Source technologies like > OpenLayers,MapServer,GeoRSS and QGIS,where I also have to develop > installer/packages for Windows/Linux (OLPC XO Laptops run on > Fedora)/Macintosh of the tool created. > I have not contributed to the Linux community earlier but with my > existing knowledge and will to learn more and with my coming experiences > with OLPC ,Fedora is going to last in my life forever and thats the > platform I will be using for my final year project where I will be > implementing a Ph.D thesis on a Computer Networking project from > Stanford University.In the contributers program I saw that one can > contribute in a number of ways,so I can help the community grow by > spreading word about the same in my University and bring more value to > the Fedora group.At times I can contribute to the Web Development and I > have also worked on Internationalization while working on Google Gadgets > ( http://www.googlemodules.com/author/Rajan+Vaish/ ) within 10 days of > their release they have a statistics of more than 150 queries per day.I > am thankful to be part of Fedora Ambassadors Program and ready to > contribute in anyway I can.Thanks !! > Rajan Vaish > http://linkedin.com/in/rajanvaish -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 26 10:13:16 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:43:16 +0530 Subject: [Fwd: [Ilugc] mukt.in 2008 [Event News]] Message-ID: <48636BBC.4060101@fedoraproject.org> Hi, Is anyone interested in participating in this event by giving a talk, managing a booth etc? Let me know. Rahul -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: srikrishna das Subject: [Ilugc] mukt.in 2008 [Event News] Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:04:14 -0700 (PDT) Size: 5591 URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 26 22:18:18 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 03:48:18 +0530 Subject: Maintaining the Fedora developer spin Message-ID: <486415AA.3020803@fedoraproject.org> Hi, Andrew Overholt from the Red Hat Java team initiated a effort to create a Fedora developer spin (live DVD) for Fedora 8. Unfortunately he hasn't had time to continue to maintain it. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/8/ReleaseSummary In brief, a spin is a custom variant of Fedora targeted at more specific audience and can be either regular installation or live images. Refer http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CustomSpins In this case, what is minimum required for you to maintain a spin is basic understanding of the kickstart syntax and livecd-creator, both of which are pretty easy to learn. I can help walk you through the process if you are interested. Do let me know if this interests you. Thanks. Rahul From siddharth at techbugs.org Fri Jun 27 03:04:29 2008 From: siddharth at techbugs.org (Siddharth Upmanyu) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:34:29 +0530 Subject: Maintaining the Fedora developer spin In-Reply-To: <486415AA.3020803@fedoraproject.org> References: <486415AA.3020803@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:48 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi, > > Andrew Overholt from the Red Hat Java team initiated a effort to create a > Fedora developer spin (live DVD) for Fedora 8. Unfortunately he hasn't had > time to continue to maintain it. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/8/ReleaseSummary > > In brief, a spin is a custom variant of Fedora targeted at more specific > audience and can be either regular installation or live images. Refer > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CustomSpins > > In this case, what is minimum required for you to maintain a spin is basic > understanding of the kickstart syntax and livecd-creator, both of which are > pretty easy to learn. I can help walk you through the process if you are > interested. Do let me know if this interests you. Thanks. > > Rahul > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > I'd like to take this.. i am fine with kickstart and livecds.. Regards Siddharth From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Fri Jun 27 06:12:23 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:42:23 +0530 Subject: [Fwd: Recruiting Students (Campus Ambassadors)] Message-ID: <486484C7.9080604@gmail.com> On a hunch that a few fine folks would have missed this :) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Recruiting Students (Campus Ambassadors) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:24:03 -0400 From: Jack Aboutboul Reply-To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base Hey All, I'm sorry I missed the marketing meeting earlier today, but I was told that there was discussion of recruiting students to help out with Fedora and Fedora marketing efforts. I have been working for the past couple of weeks to put together something modeled after the ambassadors which I tentatively call "Campus Ambassadors". The mission of the campus ambassadors is something similar to what Mozilla does with the Firefox Campus Rep program--to have someone who can speak to the student body about Fedora and represent Fedora at relevant campus events. Also, I am looking to require campus ambassadors to hold one info session or tech talk type thing per semester to make sure that there is constant action and interest in Fedora. There will be a community architecture team meeting in Raleigh next week at which I would like to present the final plan for this and officially launch. I have already been in contact with a number of students from various universities (Berkeley, Oswego, CMU, Auburn, Texas A&M) and so far there is interest. Just thought I would kick the idea out to the list and see what people had to say. My plan is to put up a wiki page for this tomorrow or over the weekend, so that it can be presented next week. Thanks, Jack -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From kushaldas at gmail.com Fri Jun 27 07:32:25 2008 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:02:25 +0530 Subject: Wrong usage of the name "Fedora India" Message-ID: Hi all, In planet.fedoraproject.org you can find one blog entry as "Fedora India". From the blog I can find his (may be he is in this list) name is Kulbir Saini. That site http://fedora.co.in is also using Fedora Logo. This may give false impression to the world that those are the words from Fedora India team. Also the site contains Google ads. Again in the site, there is a declaimer "Copyright (c) 2008 Kulbir Saini. I am not related to Red Hat or Fedora Project. The content on this site is my own views. " I think we should not allow someone to use the name and logo like this. Kushal -- http://fedoraproject.org http://kushaldas.in http://badvista.org http://noooxml.org From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Fri Jun 27 08:22:06 2008 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:52:06 +0530 Subject: Wrong usage of the name "Fedora India" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3170f42f0806270122t3f91cfbes8f0b75fbb0339add@mail.gmail.com> > "Copyright (c) 2008 Kulbir Saini. I am not related to Red Hat or > Fedora Project. The content on this site is my own views. " If he is not related to the Fedora Project then how did he find a place on the Planet? He _is_ related and therefore I think he is lying. Regards, Debarshi From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Fri Jun 27 08:36:01 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:06:01 +0530 Subject: Wrong usage of the name "Fedora India" In-Reply-To: <3170f42f0806270122t3f91cfbes8f0b75fbb0339add@mail.gmail.com> References: <3170f42f0806270122t3f91cfbes8f0b75fbb0339add@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4864A671.2080200@gmail.com> Debarshi Ray wrote: >> "Copyright (c) 2008 Kulbir Saini. I am not related to Red Hat or >> Fedora Project. The content on this site is my own views. " > > If he is not related to the Fedora Project then how did he find a > place on the Planet? He _is_ related and therefore I think he is > lying. This is being harsh. One, we don't know whether Kulbir is on the list (hence the cc:) and two, it might be constructive to provide an alternative acceptable messaging rather than an accusation. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From kushaldas at gmail.com Fri Jun 27 08:46:44 2008 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:16:44 +0530 Subject: Wrong usage of the name "Fedora India" In-Reply-To: <4864A671.2080200@gmail.com> References: <3170f42f0806270122t3f91cfbes8f0b75fbb0339add@mail.gmail.com> <4864A671.2080200@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:06 PM, "Sankarshan (????????)" wrote: > This is being harsh. One, we don't know whether Kulbir is on the list (hence > the cc:) and two, it might be constructive to provide an alternative > acceptable messaging rather than an accusation. So, if he changes his blog name to something else and that declaimer , things will look better. Still no idea about the legal side of the url and logo. Kushal -- http://fedoraproject.org http://kushaldas.in http://badvista.org http://noooxml.org From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Fri Jun 27 09:12:20 2008 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:42:20 +0530 Subject: Wrong usage of the name "Fedora India" In-Reply-To: <4864A671.2080200@gmail.com> References: <3170f42f0806270122t3f91cfbes8f0b75fbb0339add@mail.gmail.com> <4864A671.2080200@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3170f42f0806270212g43edc055pf340c2333c01ebf2@mail.gmail.com> >> If he is not related to the Fedora Project then how did he find a >> place on the Planet? He _is_ related and therefore I think he is >> lying. > This is being harsh. and two, it might be constructive to provide an alternative > acceptable messaging rather than an accusation. Maybe I sounded too harsh. Sorry! However that disclaimer sounds to me like someone trying to outsmart others, especially when is a GSoCer [1] and getting paid as a result of doing work for Fedora. > One, we don't know whether Kulbir is on the list (hence > the cc:) If he is using fedora.co.in and "Fedora India" and yet not part of this list, then this is really funny. Regards, Debarshi [1] http://code.google.com/soc/2008/fedora/appinfo.html?csaid=EDF75F0E2A5F0530 From satya.komaragiri at gmail.com Fri Jun 27 09:21:57 2008 From: satya.komaragiri at gmail.com (satya komaragiri) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:51:57 +0530 Subject: Wrong usage of the name "Fedora India" In-Reply-To: <3170f42f0806270212g43edc055pf340c2333c01ebf2@mail.gmail.com> References: <3170f42f0806270122t3f91cfbes8f0b75fbb0339add@mail.gmail.com> <4864A671.2080200@gmail.com> <3170f42f0806270212g43edc055pf340c2333c01ebf2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <146c63b10806270221v5d72f465re7455105fe329d1a@mail.gmail.com> Hey all Um.. sorry for poking my nose here.. but as Kulbir Saini is not on the list ..I wanted to ask you if i should forward this thread to him so that he may do the necessary .. or convey any suggestion that you might have for him..I can contact him as he is a co-gsocer Regards Satya On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Debarshi Ray wrote: >>> If he is not related to the Fedora Project then how did he find a >>> place on the Planet? He _is_ related and therefore I think he is >>> lying. > >> This is being harsh. and two, it might be constructive to provide an alternative >> acceptable messaging rather than an accusation. > > Maybe I sounded too harsh. Sorry! > > However that disclaimer sounds to me like someone trying to outsmart > others, especially when is a GSoCer [1] and getting paid as a result > of doing work for Fedora. > >> One, we don't know whether Kulbir is on the list (hence >> the cc:) > > If he is using fedora.co.in and "Fedora India" and yet not part of > this list, then this is really funny. > > Regards, > Debarshi > > [1] http://code.google.com/soc/2008/fedora/appinfo.html?csaid=EDF75F0E2A5F0530 > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Fri Jun 27 09:26:20 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:56:20 +0530 Subject: Wrong usage of the name "Fedora India" In-Reply-To: <146c63b10806270221v5d72f465re7455105fe329d1a@mail.gmail.com> References: <3170f42f0806270122t3f91cfbes8f0b75fbb0339add@mail.gmail.com> <4864A671.2080200@gmail.com> <3170f42f0806270212g43edc055pf340c2333c01ebf2@mail.gmail.com> <146c63b10806270221v5d72f465re7455105fe329d1a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4864B23C.7070208@gmail.com> satya komaragiri wrote: > Um.. sorry for poking my nose here.. but as Kulbir Saini is not on the > list ..I wanted to ask you if i should forward this thread to him so > that he may do the necessary .. or convey any suggestion that you > might have for him..I can contact him as he is a co-gsocer Thank you Satya :) I had put Kulbir in the cc: of my response earlier, but it would nice if you could point him to this thread and get him to subscribe to this list as well. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From kushaldas at gmail.com Fri Jun 27 10:02:13 2008 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:32:13 +0530 Subject: Wrong usage of the name "Fedora India" In-Reply-To: References: <3170f42f0806270122t3f91cfbes8f0b75fbb0339add@mail.gmail.com> <4864A671.2080200@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Kulbir Saini wrote: > Hi! > I think legaly there is nothing. May domains (e.g. http://fedora.org/ ) > are owned by others. And to be precise I am not publicizing something > against fedora on my blog. I write about fedora all the time. And there are > a lot of fedora (checkout the list here > http://proyectofedora.org/mexico/ ) blogs and websites. Don't know about other countries but *yes* we have problems if someone is using the name 'Fedora India'. 'Fedora India' means the whole Fedora community from India, You just can not use that name for your personal statements. And you are using Fedora logo and telling there is no legal problem!! Also please mail in this regard in the list as this is not a personal conversation. Kushal -- http://fedoraproject.org http://kushaldas.in http://badvista.org http://noooxml.org From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Fri Jun 27 10:12:47 2008 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:42:47 +0530 Subject: Wrong usage of the name "Fedora India" In-Reply-To: References: <3170f42f0806270122t3f91cfbes8f0b75fbb0339add@mail.gmail.com> <4864A671.2080200@gmail.com> <3170f42f0806270212g43edc055pf340c2333c01ebf2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3170f42f0806270312r603ec3eag4fdf90f44cda39@mail.gmail.com> > As I already said, I am not related as in I am not an employee of RedHat Here is what you wrote: "Copyright (c) 2008 Kulbir Saini. I am not related to Red Hat or Fedora Project. The content on this site is my own views. " If you were not a related to the Fedora project, there is no way you could have that site on Planet Fedora. > and being a GSoCer doesn't make you an employee. Not an employee of Red Hat, but that does make you part of the Fedora Project since you are being mentored and selected under it, and technically you are "working for Google as a self-employed contract worker" (Leslie Hawthorne will give you the exact phrase). > I seriously wonder from > where this concept of "outsmarting others" dropped in and how I am trying to > outsmart others. Is there something left to seriously wonder about? Regards, Debarshi From kushaldas at gmail.com Fri Jun 27 10:30:42 2008 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:00:42 +0530 Subject: Wrong usage of the name "Fedora India" In-Reply-To: References: <3170f42f0806270122t3f91cfbes8f0b75fbb0339add@mail.gmail.com> <4864A671.2080200@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Kulbir Saini wrote: > I have taken permission for using Fedora logo from > logo at fedoraproject.org . (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo) ok, then may be logo problem but others are still remaining, like using the name 'Fedora India' and telling that you are not a part of Fedora project. Kushal -- http://fedoraproject.org http://kushaldas.in http://badvista.org http://noooxml.org From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Fri Jun 27 10:33:34 2008 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:03:34 +0530 Subject: Wrong usage of the name "Fedora India" In-Reply-To: References: <3170f42f0806270122t3f91cfbes8f0b75fbb0339add@mail.gmail.com> <4864A671.2080200@gmail.com> <3170f42f0806270212g43edc055pf340c2333c01ebf2@mail.gmail.com> <3170f42f0806270312r603ec3eag4fdf90f44cda39@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3170f42f0806270333v5de6b0cey75012e2c64dc01f1@mail.gmail.com> >> > As I already said, I am not related as in I am not an employee of >> > RedHat >> >> Here is what you wrote: >> "Copyright (c) 2008 Kulbir Saini. I am not related to Red Hat or >> Fedora Project. The content on this site is my own views. " >> >> If you were not a related to the Fedora project, there is no way you >> could have that site on Planet Fedora. > > Time and again you are writing the same thing. Didn't I clear my take on > this? You cleared nothing. You are trying to circumvent the issue. > Anyway I don't want to be a part of another debate which doesn't end > anywhere. I have changed the name to My Fedora. Hopefully you don't have > problems with that. Change the url from fedora.co.in to something else. Regards, Debarshi From kulbirsaini at students.iiit.ac.in Fri Jun 27 11:04:39 2008 From: kulbirsaini at students.iiit.ac.in (Kulbir Saini) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:34:39 +0530 (IST) Subject: Clarifications regarding fedora.co.in Message-ID: <37848.172.16.31.20.1214564679.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> Hi all! I own this domain (http://fedora.co.in/) since almost 3-4 months and use it to blog about Fedora and Linux related things. I took permission for using Fedora logo from FedoraProject (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo). I am not a RedHat employee and footer in the website says the same. I have changed the website name to "My Fedora". If anybody still have any problem and think that I am defaming FedoraProject or hurting anyone's sentiments, reply to this thread. PS : I am not going to move my blog to any other domain. ------------------------------------------------------- Thank you, Kulbir Saini, Computer Science and Engineering, International Institute of Information Technology, Hyderbad, India - 500032. My Home-Page: http://saini.co.in/ My Web-Blog: http://fedora.co.in/ IRC nick : generalBordeaux Channels : #fedora, #fedora-devel, #yum on freenode ------------------------------------------------------- From runabh at gmail.com Fri Jun 27 11:17:30 2008 From: runabh at gmail.com (Runa Bhattacharjee) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:47:30 +0530 Subject: Clarifications regarding fedora.co.in In-Reply-To: <37848.172.16.31.20.1214564679.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> References: <37848.172.16.31.20.1214564679.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> Message-ID: <4864CC4A.8070109@gmail.com> Hello Kulbir, Kulbir Saini wrote: > Hi all! > > I own this domain (http://fedora.co.in/) since almost 3-4 months and use it > to blog about Fedora and Linux related things. I took permission for using > Fedora logo from FedoraProject (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo). I am > not a RedHat employee and footer in the website says the same. I have > changed the website name to "My Fedora". If anybody still have any problem > and think that I am defaming FedoraProject or hurting anyone's sentiments, > reply to this thread. > Thanks for the clarification. > PS : I am not going to move my blog to any other domain. The Fedora project specifies some guidelines about the usage of its trademark. You might like to take a look at this first and seek clarifications if required. http://fedoraproject.org/legal/trademarks/guidelines/ regards Runa -- blog: http://runab.livejournal.com irc: mishti or runa_b on Freenode From rakesh.pandit at gmail.com Fri Jun 27 11:45:32 2008 From: rakesh.pandit at gmail.com (Rakesh Pandit) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:15:32 +0530 Subject: Clarifications regarding fedora.co.in In-Reply-To: <37848.172.16.31.20.1214564679.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> References: <37848.172.16.31.20.1214564679.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> Message-ID: On 27/06/2008, Kulbir Saini wrote: > Hi all! > [..] > PS : I am not going to move my blog to any other domain. > > In short main issue with your domain is that it gives a false impression for being a Fedora India community place but it is a personal site. There may be some complicated trademark violation issues. I said may be. So as Runa said you better clear them. To me it is ethically wrong to use a domain which conflicts with community interest. But it is your domain so your wish. -- Rakesh Pandit From kulbirsaini at students.iiit.ac.in Fri Jun 27 11:46:50 2008 From: kulbirsaini at students.iiit.ac.in (Kulbir Saini) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:16:50 +0530 (IST) Subject: Clarifications regarding fedora.co.in In-Reply-To: <4864CC4A.8070109@gmail.com> References: <37848.172.16.31.20.1214564679.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> <4864CC4A.8070109@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49561.172.16.31.20.1214567210.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> Hi! > Hello Kulbir, > > Kulbir Saini wrote: >> Hi all! >> >> I own this domain (http://fedora.co.in/) since almost 3-4 months and use >> it >> to blog about Fedora and Linux related things. I took permission for using >> Fedora logo from FedoraProject (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo). I am >> not a RedHat employee and footer in the website says the same. I have >> changed the website name to "My Fedora". If anybody still have any problem >> and think that I am defaming FedoraProject or hurting anyone's sentiments, >> reply to this thread. >> > > Thanks for the clarification. >> PS : I am not going to move my blog to any other domain. > The Fedora project specifies some guidelines about the usage of its > trademark. You might like to take a look at this first and seek > clarifications if required. > > http://fedoraproject.org/legal/trademarks/guidelines/ A line saying "Fedora, Fedora Logo, FedoraProject and Red Hat are trademarks of Red Hat Inc." in the footer should remove all the ambiguities. Thanks for guiding :) > regards > Runa > > -- > blog: http://runab.livejournal.com > irc: mishti or runa_b on Freenode > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > > ------------------------------------------------------- Thank you, Kulbir Saini, Computer Science and Engineering, International Institute of Information Technology, Hyderbad, India - 500032. My Home-Page: http://saini.co.in/ My Web-Blog: http://fedora.co.in/ IRC nick : generalBordeaux Channels : #fedora, #fedora-devel, #yum on freenode ------------------------------------------------------- From saurabh at beginbyte.org Fri Jun 27 11:51:38 2008 From: saurabh at beginbyte.org (Saurabh Bathe) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:21:38 +0530 Subject: Clarifications regarding fedora.co.in In-Reply-To: <37848.172.16.31.20.1214564679.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> References: <37848.172.16.31.20.1214564679.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> Message-ID: <4864D44A.6030500@beginbyte.org> Kulbir Saini wrote: > Hi all! > > I own this domain (http://fedora.co.in/) since almost 3-4 months and use it > to blog about Fedora and Linux related things. I took permission for using > Fedora logo from FedoraProject (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo). I am > You took the permission for the logo. But having the site name as Fedora is different than using the logo on your site. This is like me having a site "mcdonalds.co.in" and claiming in the footer that I am not associated with them. While doing that may/may not be perfectly legal, I would like to refrain from doing that on moral grounds. But as suggested, check with trademarks at redhat.com . --Saurabh PS. Some people might call your actions "cyber squatting" or "domain hijacking", though I am sure you have no such intentions :) From kulbirsaini at students.iiit.ac.in Fri Jun 27 11:52:33 2008 From: kulbirsaini at students.iiit.ac.in (Kulbir Saini) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:22:33 +0530 (IST) Subject: Clarifications regarding fedora.co.in In-Reply-To: References: <37848.172.16.31.20.1214564679.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> Message-ID: <37330.172.16.31.20.1214567553.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> > On 27/06/2008, Kulbir Saini wrote: >> Hi all! >> > [..] >> PS : I am not going to move my blog to any other domain. >> >> > > In short main issue with your domain is that it gives a false > impression for being a Fedora India community place but it is a > personal site. > > There may be some complicated trademark violation issues. I said may > be. So as Runa said you better clear them. Cleared. > To me it is ethically wrong to use a domain which conflicts with > community interest. But it is your domain so your wish. hrm.. another line in footer "This website doesn't represent Indian Fedora community." should remove this conflict. PS : I wonder if footer will become larger than the website itself :P > -- > Rakesh Pandit > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > > ------------------------------------------------------- Thank you, Kulbir Saini, Computer Science and Engineering, International Institute of Information Technology, Hyderbad, India - 500032. My Home-Page: http://saini.co.in/ My Web-Blog: http://fedora.co.in/ IRC nick : generalBordeaux Channels : #fedora, #fedora-devel, #yum on freenode ------------------------------------------------------- From rakesh.pandit at gmail.com Fri Jun 27 12:13:54 2008 From: rakesh.pandit at gmail.com (Rakesh Pandit) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:43:54 +0530 Subject: Clarifications regarding fedora.co.in In-Reply-To: <37330.172.16.31.20.1214567553.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> References: <37848.172.16.31.20.1214564679.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> <37330.172.16.31.20.1214567553.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> Message-ID: On 27/06/2008, Kulbir Saini wrote: [..] > > hrm.. another line in footer "This website doesn't represent Indian Fedora > community." should remove this conflict. > > PS : I wonder if footer will become larger than the website itself :P > [..] In my view conflict resolved to 1% with this very very small footer. if you want it 100% resolved give up using the domain. -- Rakesh Pandit From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Fri Jun 27 12:10:53 2008 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:40:53 +0530 Subject: Clarifications regarding fedora.co.in In-Reply-To: <37848.172.16.31.20.1214564679.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> References: <37848.172.16.31.20.1214564679.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> Message-ID: <3170f42f0806270510w2c8e5e36k4418a90807500537@mail.gmail.com> > I am > not a RedHat employee and footer in the website says the same. Who cares whether you are a Red Hat employee or not? What difference would it make if you _were_ a Red Hat employee at all? > I have > changed the website name to "My Fedora". You still continue to have things like: "Subscribe to Fedora India by Email. Enter your email address" ... and "Fedora India" is flashing all over the place. Regards, Debarshi From kulbirsaini at students.iiit.ac.in Fri Jun 27 12:21:59 2008 From: kulbirsaini at students.iiit.ac.in (Kulbir Saini) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:51:59 +0530 (IST) Subject: Clarifications regarding fedora.co.in In-Reply-To: <3170f42f0806270510w2c8e5e36k4418a90807500537@mail.gmail.com> References: <37848.172.16.31.20.1214564679.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> <3170f42f0806270510w2c8e5e36k4418a90807500537@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <55743.172.16.31.20.1214569319.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> >> I am >> not a RedHat employee and footer in the website says the same. > > Who cares whether you are a Red Hat employee or not? What difference > would it make if you _were_ a Red Hat employee at all? I think you are *the* person here who seems to care about it a bit more than you should. >> I have >> changed the website name to "My Fedora". > > You still continue to have things like: > "Subscribe to Fedora India by Email. Enter your email address" > ... and "Fedora India" is flashing all over the place. My mistake. Things take time to modify. > Regards, > Debarshi > > ------------------------------------------------------- Thank you, Kulbir Saini, Computer Science and Engineering, International Institute of Information Technology, Hyderbad, India - 500032. My Home-Page: http://saini.co.in/ My Web-Blog: http://fedora.co.in/ IRC nick : generalBordeaux Channels : #fedora, #fedora-devel, #yum on freenode ------------------------------------------------------- From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Fri Jun 27 12:46:38 2008 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:16:38 +0530 Subject: Clarifications regarding fedora.co.in In-Reply-To: <55743.172.16.31.20.1214569319.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> References: <37848.172.16.31.20.1214564679.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> <3170f42f0806270510w2c8e5e36k4418a90807500537@mail.gmail.com> <55743.172.16.31.20.1214569319.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> Message-ID: <3170f42f0806270546h25b01225sc3be7a63b9f7d3dd@mail.gmail.com> >> Who cares whether you are a Red Hat employee or not? What difference >> would it make if you _were_ a Red Hat employee at all? > I think you are *the* person here who seems to care about it a bit more than > you should. You are constantly harping on this disclaimer, which actually means very little. Instead of having it in tiny letters at the bottom, you should clearly mention in big letters on the top: "THIS SITE IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FEDORA COMMUNITY IN INDIA" Please try to understand that we are not interested in the legal complications of the issue. As Rakesh said, there is a moral and ethical side to this. No matter how much you disclaim, "fedora.co.in" implies a commercial entity named Fedora in India. Yes, you are the owner of the domain. Yes, you can still walk away saying I don't want to listen to someone else. But you are kicking a portion of that very community whose work you are apparently writing about in that Website. If I were you, I would not want to be in that situation. Since I am not you, what you do is entirely upto you. Regards, Debarshi From kushaldas at gmail.com Fri Jun 27 13:37:51 2008 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:07:51 +0530 Subject: Clarifications regarding fedora.co.in In-Reply-To: <55743.172.16.31.20.1214569319.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> References: <37848.172.16.31.20.1214564679.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> <3170f42f0806270510w2c8e5e36k4418a90807500537@mail.gmail.com> <55743.172.16.31.20.1214569319.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> Message-ID: <200806271907.51815.kushaldas@gmail.com> On Friday 27 June 2008 05:51:59 pm Kulbir Saini wrote: > I think you are *the* person here who seems to care about it a bit more > than you should. I can assure you that there is a big list of such *the* person in India in the Fedora community. Your comment goes to all of them, just remember that. Kushal -- Fedora Ambassador, India http://kushaldas.in http://dgplug.org (Linux User Group of Durgapur) From kulbirsaini at students.iiit.ac.in Fri Jun 27 16:01:05 2008 From: kulbirsaini at students.iiit.ac.in (Kulbir Saini) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:31:05 +0530 (IST) Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Reg Fedora Logo usage for Fedora.co.in]] Message-ID: <53638.172.16.31.20.1214582465.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> I think this thread should stop here without any further discussions. ------------------------------ Original Message ------------------------------ Subject: Re: [Fwd: Reg Fedora Logo usage for Fedora.co.in] From: "Paul W. Frields" Date: Fri, June 27, 2008 18:31 To: kulbirsaini at students.iiit.ac.in ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Reg Fedora Logo usage for Fedora.co.in > Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:36:23 +0530 (IST) > From: Kulbir Saini > To: trademarks at redhat.com > > Sir, > > I am an open source enthusiast, a Fedora fan and a FedoraProject > contributor living in Hyderabad, India. I usually blog about Fedora, Linux > and other open source projects on my blog located at http://fedora.co.in/ . > I requested for the permission regarding Fedora logo usage from > FedoraProject (logo at fedoraproject.org , http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo > ) and they approved it. > > Still I want to confirm it from Red Hat Inc. whether I am entitled > to use > Fedora Logo on my web-blog? > > Awaiting for your response. > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Thank you, > Kulbir Saini, Hi Kulbir, The permission you received is all you need. You may use the Fedora logo on your site. However, if could correct the site notice as follows: "Fedora, the Fedora logo, Fedora Project and Red Hat are trademarks of Red Hat, Inc. The Fedora logo is used by permission." 1. Correct "the Fedora logo" so that "logo" is not capitalized 2. Correct "Fedora Project" to be two words, not one 3. Add the final sentence, "The Fedora logo is used by permission." This is satisfactory and you can continue using the logo on your site. We are working on writing clearer trademark guidelines to make usage like this easier. Paul W. Frields Fedora Project Leader ------------------------------------------------------- Thank you, Kulbir Saini, Computer Science and Engineering, International Institute of Information Technology, Hyderbad, India - 500032. My Home-Page: http://saini.co.in/ My Web-Blog: http://fedora.co.in/ IRC nick : generalBordeaux Channels : #fedora, #fedora-devel, #yum on freenode ------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rakesh.pandit at gmail.com Fri Jun 27 16:28:00 2008 From: rakesh.pandit at gmail.com (Rakesh Pandit) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:58:00 +0530 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Reg Fedora Logo usage for Fedora.co.in]] In-Reply-To: <53638.172.16.31.20.1214582465.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> References: <53638.172.16.31.20.1214582465.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> Message-ID: On 27/06/2008, Kulbir Saini wrote: > > I think this thread should stop here without any further discussions. > [..] No one challenges you about whether you have really taken permission for using logo or not. We believe you. I/We seem to be speaking latin and you don't understand a word. DOMAIN is our concern and unfortunately it is your call as you own it. -- Rakesh Pandit From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Jun 27 18:29:21 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:59:21 +0530 Subject: Maintaining the Fedora developer spin In-Reply-To: References: <486415AA.3020803@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <48653181.50201@fedoraproject.org> Siddharth Upmanyu wrote: >> > I'd like to take this.. > i am fine with kickstart and livecds.. That's great. The kickstart repository is at https://fedorahosted.org/spin-kickstarts/ Let me know if you need more information. Rahul From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Fri Jun 27 20:34:38 2008 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 02:04:38 +0530 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Reg Fedora Logo usage for Fedora.co.in]] In-Reply-To: <53638.172.16.31.20.1214582465.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> References: <53638.172.16.31.20.1214582465.squirrel@students.iiit.ac.in> Message-ID: <3170f42f0806271334n3bb1bf03m10d9a230aca76b7f@mail.gmail.com> > I think this thread should stop here without any further discussions. No, it should not. Till now you were trying to point out your disclaimers about Red Hat, Fedora, etc. and now you are showing off your permission to use the logo. Stop trying to confuse us. The issue is your domain name: fedora.co.in, which implies "a commercial entity named Fedora in India". Your disclaimers and permission to use the logo does not change this single fact, unless you change the domain. Ofcourse there are worse people [1] but there are many noble souls too. eg., http://www.fedora-fr.org/ is driven by the French community is not held personally by anyone. It is upto you to decide which category you want to belong to. Whatever you choose, be honest about and don't be equivocal about it. Regards, Debarshi [1] http://fedora.org/ From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Jun 30 06:07:38 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:37:38 +0530 Subject: [Fwd: Mirror bandwidth and user redirection] Message-ID: <4868782A.4070708@fedoraproject.org> Hi, You should from now on get automatically redirected to the mirror with more bandwidth. I talked to Matt Domsch in Boston about this last week and it's already implemented now. Rahul -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Matt Domsch Subject: Mirror bandwidth and user redirection Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:46:27 -0500 Size: 4617 URL: From arnavkalra007 at gmail.com Mon Jun 30 09:04:50 2008 From: arnavkalra007 at gmail.com (Arnav Kalra) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:34:50 +0530 Subject: FWN Message-ID: <5ac533d50806300204t7b1eac7cn3d3a5f8a7f683397@mail.gmail.com> The latest fedora weekly news is about a fortnight old. When will the new version be released -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Jun 30 09:58:57 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:28:57 +0530 Subject: FWN In-Reply-To: <5ac533d50806300204t7b1eac7cn3d3a5f8a7f683397@mail.gmail.com> References: <5ac533d50806300204t7b1eac7cn3d3a5f8a7f683397@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4868AE61.30303@fedoraproject.org> Arnav Kalra wrote: > The latest fedora weekly news is about a fortnight old. When will the > new version be released This is really a question for fedora-news list but the announcement has already been send out and just needs to be moderated. You can read it at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue132 Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Jun 30 10:21:34 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:51:34 +0530 Subject: FUDCon India 2008 Message-ID: <4868B3AE.3080504@fedoraproject.org> Hi We have the tentative budget approval to organize a FUDCon in India as part of the foss.in conference in Bangalore. Since last few FUDCon's have been successfully conducted in Barcamp style, we might follow it if we have the infrastructure and approval from event organizers. I have add some preliminary details to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConIndia2008 Let me know if you have any questions. Rahul From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Mon Jun 30 23:41:10 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 05:11:10 +0530 Subject: FUDCon India 2008 In-Reply-To: <4868B3AE.3080504@fedoraproject.org> References: <4868B3AE.3080504@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <48696F16.2090708@gmail.com> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > We have the tentative budget approval to organize a FUDCon in India as > part of the foss.in conference in Bangalore. Since last few FUDCon's > have been successfully conducted in Barcamp style, we might follow it if > we have the infrastructure and approval from event organizers. I have > add some preliminary details to > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConIndia2008 Caveat: The FUDCon at foss.in2008 is subject to the organizers agree-ing to such a proposal. Having said that, it would be nice: [1] to start a discussion on this list and, once there are emerging agenda points to [2] hold an IRC meeting on this A preliminary set of discussion points could be around: o why do we want to do a FUDCon at foss.in o who is our audience o how do we determine the success of FUDCon at foss.in o what lessons do we have from Project Day last year o what 'activities' do we intend to do ~sankarshan ps: On a personal note, I'd love to see less emphasis on talks and more emphasis on 'doing things' ie actual hunkering down on desktops|laptops, whiteboards and coming up with stuff that can be translated into action points. Such stuff could be a mundane 'creating a spin' or 'packaging a random application for EPEL' or, creating artwork for the Fedora India Community website -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work