Fedora-india Digest, Vol 9, Issue 14

nehal dattani nehal.dattani at gmail.com
Thu May 22 20:24:31 UTC 2008


i have added my name in the page.........
anybody from ahmedabad/gujarat can contact me on the mentioned mail id

regards,
NehalDattani

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>   1. Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
>      (susmit shannigrahi)
>   2. Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... (Debarshi Ray)
>   3. Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
>      (susmit shannigrahi)
>   4. Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
>      (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay)
>   5. Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... (Mani A)
>   6. Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
>      (susmit shannigrahi)
>   7. Re: F9, FreeMedia and questions around it (susmit shannigrahi)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 08:22:18 +0530
> From: "susmit shannigrahi" <thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com>
> Subject: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
> To: fedora-india at redhat.com, fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com,
>  "For
>        discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base"
>        <fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com>
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> Hi all,
>
> * This is for increasing Fedora Media's availability in India.
>
> * Please note, you need not spend _any_ money.
>
> * If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from your
> busy schedule, please list your name here.[1]
>
> * When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank CD/DVD as
> and when your time permits.
> All you need is to burn the CD/DVD.
>
>
> [1]
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Susmit.
>
> =============================================
> ssh
> 0x86DD170A
> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi
> =============================================
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 10:10:31 +0530
> From: "Debarshi Ray" <debarshi.ray at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
> To: "susmit shannigrahi" <thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com>
> Cc: fedora-india at redhat.com
> Message-ID:
>        <3170f42f0805212140j585a7b69s5f30d919f70d9ea2 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> > * If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from your
> > busy schedule, please list your name here.[1]
> >
> > * When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank CD/DVD as
> > and when your time permits.
> > All you need is to burn the CD/DVD.
>
> If I enlist myself, then how do I get the seed content? In my case, I
> can easily get it from the WBUT mirror, but is there a procedure that
> everyone can follow? Maybe the ambassadors could arrange for the seed
> content to reach the "media burners" from the mirror managers.
>
> Cheers,
> Debarshi
> --
> "From what we get, we can make a living; what we give, however, makes a
> life."
>  -- Arthur Ashe
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 10:32:28 +0530
> From: "susmit shannigrahi" <thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
> To: debarshi.ray at gmail.com
> Cc: fedora-india at redhat.com
> Message-ID:
>        <ffadd1240805212202m951f7edi981b1bc8f524a2c at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Debarshi Ray <debarshi.ray at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> * If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from your
> >> busy schedule, please list your name here.[1]
> >>
> >> * When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank CD/DVD as
> >> and when your time permits.
> >> All you need is to burn the CD/DVD.
> >
> > If I enlist myself, then how do I get the seed content? In my case, I
> > can easily get it from the WBUT mirror, but is there a procedure that
> > everyone can follow?
>
> No.
>
> > Maybe the ambassadors could arrange for the seed
> > content to reach the "media burners" from the mirror managers.
>
> Sure. Why not?
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Susmit.
>
> =============================================
> ssh
> 0x86DD170A
> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi
> =============================================
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 15:08:08 +0530
> From: Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <foss.mailinglists at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
> To: fedora-india at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <48353F00.5030606 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Debarshi Ray wrote:
>
> > If I enlist myself, then how do I get the seed content? In my case, I
> > can easily get it from the WBUT mirror, but is there a procedure that
> > everyone can follow? Maybe the ambassadors could arrange for the seed
> > content to reach the "media burners" from the mirror managers.
>
> There isn't. But this was part of the question set that I had asked in a
> separate mail :
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-india/2008-May/msg00025.html
>
>
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 19:39:44 +0530
> From: "Mani A" <a.mani.cms at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
> To: fedora-india at redhat.com
> Message-ID:
>        <78323d480805220709r13ae0d99pd1167e51e4087f1a at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
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> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:22 AM, susmit shannigrahi
> <thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > * This is for increasing Fedora Media's availability in India.
> >
> > * Please note, you need not spend _any_ money.
> >
> > * If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from your
> > busy schedule, please list your name here.[1]
> >
> > * When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank CD/DVD as
> > and when your time permits.
> > All you need is to burn the CD/DVD.
> >
> >
> > [1]
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts
> >
>
> Could not edit that immutable page!
> My user name is ManiA
>
> Add  "A. Mani (24644102) : Only 64-bit DVD" in Kolkata
>
>
> Best
>
> A. Mani
>
>
> --
> A. Mani
> Member, Cal. Math. Soc
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 20:04:13 +0530
> From: "susmit shannigrahi" <thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
> To: "Mani A" <a.mani.cms at gmail.com>
> Cc: fedora-india at redhat.com
> Message-ID:
>        <ffadd1240805220734y591e241cwde8d28647c2a773d at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> > Could not edit that immutable page!
> > My user name is ManiA
> >
> > Add  "A. Mani (24644102) : Only 64-bit DVD" in Kolkata
>
> Thanks for volunteering.
> Are not you a member of fedora community?
> I mean don't you have an account with fedora accounts system?
> If yes, please log in and edit the page. If not, how about being a member?
> I can send you the invitation and the required links.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Susmit.
>
> =============================================
> ssh
> 0x86DD170A
> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi
> =============================================
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 20:33:00 +0530
> From: "susmit shannigrahi" <thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: F9, FreeMedia and questions around it
> To: "Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay" <foss.mailinglists at gmail.com>
> Cc: fedora-india at redhat.com
> Message-ID:
>        <ffadd1240805220803l13036f99kf886d5fac04c07a8 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> > I had a single question around F9 and FreeMedia and the latter
> specifically.
> > What is a more pressing problem -
> >
>
> Both are doable easily.
>
> > [1] ensuring that every request gets a media
>
> This can be done with a much reasonable cost by creating hierarchical
> point of contacts.
> Say we produce 5000 DVD for a release.
> Say Pune gets 500 for the whole release, so may be that shipped to you,
> and there are 10 Ambassadors. So may you ask them to pick up required
> amount based on demand and other parameters.
>
>
>
> > [2] getting the initial media set to those who are participating in the
> > FreeMedia program so as to enable them to reach out to the requests
>
> Easy, the media is available at least 4-5 days before release. So
> produce them in small quantity and ship them to the contributors,
> using speed post or couriour. So they will receive before release and
> can use them as a master copy. That would require max 50 INR for each
> shipment (both i386 and x86_64 included).
>
>
>
> >
> > If, [1] is the need of the day, we would try to get a substantial number
> of
> > LiveMedia created and shipped to a select few folks based on the trends
> of
> > FreeMedia requests. Besides getting them to MirrorManagers in India.
>
> Let both [1] & [2] continue.
> We accept a fixed number of free requests, say 50 each month for if
> someone really need them.
>
> Given the option to choose from [1] & [2] I shall choose [2], because,
> when someone afford a computer, he/she can afford one or two DVD
> without any problem.
>
> But keeping [1] alive is recommended because if someone is new to
> fedora and  _suspicious_ about how good is it, but wants to try it
> out, he/she generally would be more interested in a FreeMedia rather
> than spending for it.
>
>
> > If, [2] is seem to be the bottleneck, then it would be an easier task to
> >  generate a Everything (x86 and x86_64) and a LiveMedia set created and
> sent
> > to folks who would agree to be contact points across regions.
>
> It is _not_ a bottleneck. As my professors say , a distributed system
> can not be bottlenecked. :)
>
> > The constraints in the scenario are:
> >
> > i] there is only a finite number of LiveMedia that can be created
> > ii] postage and courier charges are the ones where most money is spent
>
> This can be reduced by bulk posting, as I said for example, sending
> all the quota of Pune to you, and get that distributed among local
> cantacts/Ambassadors.
>
> > iii] the quantity of LiveMedia done as per [1] has to be consumed before
> F10
> > is out
> >
> > So, what do I push to get done ?
>
> According to me, a reasonable number, (fixed after discussion, may be
> anything between 2000-5000) of media produced for each release.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Susmit.
>
> =============================================
> ssh
> 0x86DD170A
> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi
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