From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 01:02:55 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 06:32:55 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] WiFi driver installation without Internet Connection In-Reply-To: <2af752d90906301014h35f899s5fd84885552a8ab0@mail.gmail.com> References: <2af752d90906301014h35f899s5fd84885552a8ab0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1246410175.3348.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 22:44 +0530, abhishek sharma wrote: > What do I do when I cant use Yum?. I mean I can get connected to the > internet only thru Wi-Fi here. > So my only choice is to get the packages in a flash drive and install > them. > I remember using deb only my ubuntu. > > Dont know how to do the same thing in Fedora > > I was hoping if someone could help me with that. > > -- > Hermes > Think Free, Think Open Source hi, To install you can use "rpm" "man rpm" should give you all the info you need. If you can specify what you're trying to install, we could maybe give you a better answer. -- regards, Ankur From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 03:17:25 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 08:47:25 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] WiFi driver installation without Internet Connection In-Reply-To: <2af752d90906301014h35f899s5fd84885552a8ab0@mail.gmail.com> References: <2af752d90906301014h35f899s5fd84885552a8ab0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00906302017n7e4cc5y867a0d4ddb863092@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:44 PM, abhishek sharma wrote: > What do I do when I cant use Yum?. I mean I can get connected to the > internet only thru Wi-Fi here. > So? my only choice is to get the packages in a flash drive and install them. > I remember using deb only my ubuntu. > > Dont know how to do the same thing in Fedora > > I was hoping if someone could help me with that. Perhaps you are looking for yum localinstall (please see man page for yum for more details) but we'd need some details about the packages you'd like to install before going further. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 1 07:17:09 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:47:09 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Testing required for menumaker RPM In-Reply-To: <4A22DC3A.2080909@gmail.com> References: <4A22DC3A.2080909@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A4B0D75.7070003@fedoraproject.org> On 06/01/2009 01:06 AM, Gireesh Sreekantan wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi All, > > In follow up to this thread[1], I have managed to create a RPM for > menumaker[2]. > > The rpm and the spec file can be found here[3]. Have you posted any updates? Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 1 07:18:57 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:48:57 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What software is missing in the Fedora repository? In-Reply-To: <1241965875.3331.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4A0370DC.2030402@fedoraproject.org> <89bdee5a0905071651j4d71ceaex60b0ddb9a0d1de2d@mail.gmail.com> <4A0375F6.6050900@fedoraproject.org> <1241750400.3392.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A0409EE.9050801@fedoraproject.org> <1241810295.3507.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A04D233.4020901@fedoraproject.org> <1241893591.3375.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A06D548.4040304@fedoraproject.org> <1241963168.3331.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A06DCD0.5040707@fedoraproject.org> <1241964279.3331.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A06E320.9050305@fedoraproject.org> <1241965875.3331.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4A4B0DE1.7080108@fedoraproject.org> On 05/10/2009 08:01 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > Okay.. I think I get it.. This looks like the tougher part, as compared > to just building the package.. I'll work on it. > > @Rahul Thanks for your help. Ankur, Are you posting this package up for review? Rahul From g5_fosslover at yahoo.in Wed Jul 1 08:57:22 2009 From: g5_fosslover at yahoo.in (Gaurav Prabhu) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 14:27:22 +0530 (IST) Subject: [fedora-india] Do we have any Fedora Ambassadors out of Mumbai ? Message-ID: <22951.86852.qm@web95103.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Another Ambassador here. I am Gaurav Prabhu from mumbai. Ambassador name : coolg5 If you need any help, contact me via email on g5_fosslover[at]yahoo[dot]in Regards, Gaurav Prabhu ____________________________________________________________________ Gaurav Live Layman Linux --- On Sun, 28/6/09, beta tester wrote: From: beta tester Subject: Re: [fedora-india] Do we have any Fedora Ambassadors out of Mumbai ? To: fedora-india at redhat.com Date: Sunday, 28 June, 2009, 6:32 AM I am an ambassador who does work stay, live, spread fedora in mumbai. And can be reached anytime on the phone No. given in the signature. Regards, Dilip Khanolkar +919769107738 On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:45 AM, sankarshan wrote: > $subject. 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URL: From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 13:01:52 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:31:52 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What software is missing in the Fedora repository? In-Reply-To: <4A4B0DE1.7080108@fedoraproject.org> References: <4A0370DC.2030402@fedoraproject.org> <89bdee5a0905071651j4d71ceaex60b0ddb9a0d1de2d@mail.gmail.com> <4A0375F6.6050900@fedoraproject.org> <1241750400.3392.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A0409EE.9050801@fedoraproject.org> <1241810295.3507.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A04D233.4020901@fedoraproject.org> <1241893591.3375.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A06D548.4040304@fedoraproject.org> <1241963168.3331.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A06DCD0.5040707@fedoraproject.org> <1241964279.3331.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A06E320.9050305@fedoraproject.org> <1241965875.3331.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A4B0DE1.7080108@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1246453312.3389.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 12:48 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/10/2009 08:01 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > > Okay.. I think I get it.. This looks like the tougher part, as compared > > to just building the package.. I'll work on it. > > > > @Rahul Thanks for your help. > > Ankur, > > Are you posting this package up for review? > > > Rahul > hi, I think this is what you're asking about : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507052 -- regards, Ankur From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 16:29:05 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:59:05 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] F11 DVD for 32 bit at Mumbai Message-ID: <35586fc00907010929m29d32d7fpacf97bb100f70934@mail.gmail.com> I handed over a number of media to Arvind (in cc:) today who is based out of BOM. Fedora Ambassadors and others out of BOM might like to get in touch with him. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 16:32:02 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:02:02 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] F11 DVD for 32 bit at Mumbai In-Reply-To: <35586fc00907010929m29d32d7fpacf97bb100f70934@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00907010929m29d32d7fpacf97bb100f70934@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:59 PM, sankarshan wrote: > I handed over a number of media to Arvind (in cc:) today who is based > out of BOM. Fedora Ambassadors and others out of BOM might like to get > in touch with him. Incidentally, you forgot to cc. ;) Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 16:43:25 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:13:25 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] F11 DVD for 32 bit at Mumbai In-Reply-To: References: <35586fc00907010929m29d32d7fpacf97bb100f70934@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00907010943s1b490dd3t58a1205eb222d2d1@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:02 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:59 PM, sankarshan wrote: >> I handed over a number of media to Arvind (in cc:) today who is based >> out of BOM. Fedora Ambassadors and others out of BOM might like to get >> in touch with him. > > Incidentally, you forgot to cc. ;) arsharma at redhat dot com : looks like i better turn in for the day :) -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From dilipkhanolkar at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 1 16:44:18 2009 From: dilipkhanolkar at fedoraproject.org (dilip khanolkar) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:14:18 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] F11 DVD for 32 bit at Mumbai In-Reply-To: References: <35586fc00907010929m29d32d7fpacf97bb100f70934@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9ca074ea0907010944lc295afewc6175d3ee235e199@mail.gmail.com> Thanks sankarshan. Badly waiting for my set of media for replications. I will deliver a media to ashwin. We are planning to meet in some days. He stays a lot near me. Regards, Dilip Khanolkar, +919769107738 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:02 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:59 PM, sankarshan wrote: >> I handed over a number of media to Arvind (in cc:) today who is based >> out of BOM. Fedora Ambassadors and others out of BOM might like to get >> in touch with him. > > Incidentally, you forgot to cc. ;) > Thanks. > > > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit > ============================================= > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > From emote2abhishek at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 18:36:52 2009 From: emote2abhishek at gmail.com (abhishek sharma) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:06:52 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Re: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: <20090701160046.187AC61ACD5@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20090701160046.187AC61ACD5@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <2af752d90907011136t44f4e792yf2d5cd095c285d45@mail.gmail.com> I have Dell Inspiron 1525 with Broadcom BCM 4312 wi-fi card. And the The place I am staying right now, I can only use Wi-fi here. I have recently installed FEDORA 10 and I could not get my Wifi working. Now I am working with Broadcom wl driver with my UBUNTU 8.10 and I tried to it for Fedora too. But I am going wrong somewhere, cant figure out where. And without the internet I cant proceed. Maybe because I m not familiar with rpm and yum. following are the packages I am trying to install- broadcom-wl-5.10.27.6-3.fc10.noarch.rpm kmod-wl-5.10.27.6-5.fc10.5.i686.rpm kmod-wl-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686-5.10.27.6-5.fc10.5.i686.rpm from http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/releases/10/Everything/i386/os/as mentioned in a forum but I could not succeed, even maybe some dependencies are missing. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:30 PM, wrote: > Send Fedora-india mailing list submissions to > fedora-india at redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-india-request at redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-india-owner at redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fedora-india digest..." > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:44:35 +0530 > From: abhishek sharma > Subject: [fedora-india] WiFi driver installation without Internet > Connection > To: fedora-india at redhat.com > Message-ID: > <2af752d90906301014h35f899s5fd84885552a8ab0 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > What do I do when I cant use Yum?. I mean I can get connected to the > internet only thru Wi-Fi here. > So my only choice is to get the packages in a flash drive and install > them. > I remember using deb only my ubuntu. > > Dont know how to do the same thing in Fedora > > I was hoping if someone could help me with that. > > -- > Hermes > Think Free, Think Open Source > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-india/attachments/20090630/65bb5a85/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 06:32:55 +0530 > From: Ankur Sinha > Subject: Re: [fedora-india] WiFi driver installation without Internet > Connection > To: fedora-india at redhat.com > Message-ID: <1246410175.3348.1.camel at localhost.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 22:44 +0530, abhishek sharma wrote: > > What do I do when I cant use Yum?. I mean I can get connected to the > > internet only thru Wi-Fi here. > > So my only choice is to get the packages in a flash drive and install > > them. > > I remember using deb only my ubuntu. > > > > Dont know how to do the same thing in Fedora > > > > I was hoping if someone could help me with that. > > > > -- > > Hermes > > Think Free, Think Open Source > > hi, > > To install you can use "rpm" > > "man rpm" should give you all the info you need. > > If you can specify what you're trying to install, we could maybe give > you a better answer. > > -- > regards, > > Ankur > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 08:47:25 +0530 > From: sankarshan > Subject: Re: [fedora-india] WiFi driver installation without Internet > Connection > To: fedora-india at redhat.com > Message-ID: > <35586fc00906302017n7e4cc5y867a0d4ddb863092 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:44 PM, abhishek > sharma wrote: > > What do I do when I cant use Yum?. 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URL: From shakthimaan at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 03:12:51 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:42:51 +0530 Subject: Wi-Fi driver (was Re: [fedora-india] Re: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: Hi, --- On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:06 AM, abhishek sharma wrote: |? I have Dell Inspiron 1525 with Broadcom BCM 4312 wi-fi card. And the The | place I am staying right now, ?I can only use Wi-fi here. I have recently | installed FEDORA 10 and I could not get my Wifi working. \-- 1. Why are you posting this again? You already made a post earlier: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-india/2009-June/msg00101.html Not getting a reply doesn't mean people didn't see your earlier post. 2. Why are you using digest mode? When you reply to a digest mode, you are to change the subject line, and remove irrelevant text. 3. I asked you to go through the IRC logs here: http://www.dgplug.org/irclogs/2009/ Especially this one that addresses mailing list guidelines: http://www.dgplug.org/irclogs/2009/2009-06-27_mbuf_iwanttodoprojects.log 4. Don't top-post as well! Please go through this presentation (again): http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/mailing-list-etiquette.pdf Please don't repeat this in future. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From electromech at electromech.info Thu Jul 2 07:32:15 2009 From: electromech at electromech.info (Nilesh J. Vaghela) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:02:15 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Query In-Reply-To: <64d380110906290557w1eb6c21ar9a5170bbf70a58b1@mail.gmail.com> References: <64d380110906290557w1eb6c21ar9a5170bbf70a58b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A4C627F.4050901@electromech.info> Hi, I am in Ahmedabad, we are doing regular activities monthly basis. For any updates please visit www.vglug.info one of the most active Linux User group of India. I have already conducted one seminar at Modasa MCA college and I found the students are aware about open source. I was invited by Computer department. Zaid Chauhan - Fedora Ambassador wrote: > Any Event planned for July in Ahmedabad ? > > Ahmedabad is Big city of Gujarat so... > > I request Ambassadors from Ahmedabad to plan event , > > I also can help, if needed? What kind of help you provide ?? > > It's Just query > > Thank You > > ZAiD > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india -- Nilesh Vaghela ElectroMech Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner Ahmedabad: 404,Maulik Arcad,Nr. Mansi cross Road,Satellite Rd Baroda : 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj www.electromech.info From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 09:39:42 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?InNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:09:42 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] New video(s) from Red Hat - The Red Hat Way Message-ID: <4A4C805E.2040504@gmail.com> : good to play out at events and gatherings. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From arsharma at redhat.com Fri Jul 3 11:48:15 2009 From: arsharma at redhat.com (Arvind Satpal Sneh Sharma) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:18:15 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] F11 DVD for 32 bit at Mumbai In-Reply-To: <9ca074ea0907010944lc295afewc6175d3ee235e199@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00907010929m29d32d7fpacf97bb100f70934@mail.gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907010944lc295afewc6175d3ee235e199@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1246621695.19999.319.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi Guys, i am reachable at 9323195765. I work at Powai and stay at Thane. you are more than welcome to request you F11 media. Arvind 2009-07-01 at 22:14 +0530, dilip khanolkar wrote: > Thanks sankarshan. Badly waiting for my set of media for replications. > I will deliver a media to ashwin. We are planning to meet in some > days. He stays a lot near me. > > Regards, > Dilip Khanolkar, > +919769107738 > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:02 PM, susmit > shannigrahi wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:59 PM, sankarshan wrote: > >> I handed over a number of media to Arvind (in cc:) today who is based > >> out of BOM. Fedora Ambassadors and others out of BOM might like to get > >> in touch with him. > > > > Incidentally, you forgot to cc. ;) > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Susmit. > > > > ============================================= > > ssh > > 0x86DD170A > > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit > > ============================================= > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-india mailing list > > Fedora-india at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india From arsharma at redhat.com Fri Jul 3 12:13:13 2009 From: arsharma at redhat.com (Arvind Satpal Sneh Sharma) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:43:13 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] F11 DVD for 32 bit at Mumbai In-Reply-To: <9ca074ea0907010944lc295afewc6175d3ee235e199@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00907010929m29d32d7fpacf97bb100f70934@mail.gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907010944lc295afewc6175d3ee235e199@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1246623193.19999.331.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi Dilip, As per our telecon, you plan to visit Red Hat on thursday evening. Our address is: Red Hat India B-304, Delphi, Hiranandani, Powai, Mumbai 400076 regards Arvind On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 22:14 +0530, dilip khanolkar wrote: > Thanks sankarshan. Badly waiting for my set of media for replications. > I will deliver a media to ashwin. We are planning to meet in some > days. He stays a lot near me. > > Regards, > Dilip Khanolkar, > +919769107738 > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:02 PM, susmit > shannigrahi wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:59 PM, sankarshan wrote: > >> I handed over a number of media to Arvind (in cc:) today who is based > >> out of BOM. Fedora Ambassadors and others out of BOM might like to get > >> in touch with him. > > > > Incidentally, you forgot to cc. ;) > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Susmit. > > > > ============================================= > > ssh > > 0x86DD170A > > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit > > ============================================= > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-india mailing list > > Fedora-india at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india -- From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Jul 4 10:44:04 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:14:04 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Thank you all - Fedora 11 Release Party, Pune, India Message-ID: <4A4F3274.6030104@fedoraproject.org> Hi, We had about 60 people attend, questions were insightful and the feedback was motivating. Thank you all for participating and thanks to Plug for graciously moving the time to accommodate us. We will try to do this for every release and have intermediate events as well to encourage more participation and contributions. Pictures uploaded to http://www.flickr.com/photos/runa-sankarshan/tags/fedorareleaseparty/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/kushaldas/tags/fedorareleaseparty/ Will followup with blog posts on the event shortly. For those who attended the event, feel free to write to me if you have more feedback and/or questions. Rahul From pankaj4u4m at gmail.com Sun Jul 5 05:28:35 2009 From: pankaj4u4m at gmail.com (pankaj kumar) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 10:58:35 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora 11 event Message-ID: Hi everyone I am going to organize a fedora event. The main attraction will be fedora installation tech talk on fedora fedora for engineers the event will organize in 30th august the wiki is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/fedora_in_SASTRA -- PANKAJ KUMAR "Do not try to better others. Do your own best." Fedora Ambassador pankaj4u4m at fedoraproject.org http://codegambler.blogspot.com https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:pankaj4u4m -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Sun Jul 5 05:39:57 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:09:57 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India Message-ID: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> hi, A few queries regarding the Free media project: -- These are the Free-media distributors as listed on the wiki page. Is there anyone else, who has not yet added his/her name to the list? Jasbir Singh Jones Joseph SiddharthUpmanyu SusmitShannigrahi VigneshSundaram AnkurSinha Rishikesh Sharma NehalDattani MehulPatel Shambo Bose Jatin Sunil Datta Rahul -- I've checked up all the shipping addresses as given on the wiki for the above. Had some questions regarding the same: I've noticed, "To get the O.S., you need to visit in person and bring a blank DVD." on a few of the shipping addresses. If I've understood correctly, the above is a requirement of the Local Contacts project and *NOT* the free media project (It is optional under the free media project). Please correct me if I'm wrong. -- The Free media requests are not spread evenly across India (obviously). Hence, some contributors (like me) only receive only one or two requests from our regions. I can contribute more than that ( at least 10-20 _locally_) on a monthly basis. On the other hand, I remember reading someone mass producing media (pressing to get rates as low as 2-3 rs a media??) and hence having extra copies that are going waste (not being used). Hence, there is untapped potential and also unfilled requests. Can anyone think of a way to use the resource? -- Does anyone have knowledge of Ubuntu's project. We could take some points from there (if its okay to do so, that is). I've *heard* its very effective. -- regards, Ankur From zaid at zaidnet.co.cc Sun Jul 5 13:06:46 2009 From: zaid at zaidnet.co.cc (Zaid Chauhan) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 18:36:46 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Query In-Reply-To: <4A4C627F.4050901@electromech.info> References: <64d380110906290557w1eb6c21ar9a5170bbf70a58b1@mail.gmail.com> <4A4C627F.4050901@electromech.info> Message-ID: <64d380110907050606h5ea2dca5t174132cbdcba3db5@mail.gmail.com> thank you for your reply Please give me your contact detail I will contact you if i need some info? On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Nilesh J. Vaghela < electromech at electromech.info> wrote: > Hi, > > I am in Ahmedabad, we are doing regular activities monthly basis. > > For any updates please visit www.vglug.info one of the most active Linux > User group of India. > > I have already conducted one seminar at Modasa MCA college and I found the > students are aware about open source. > > I was invited by Computer department. > > Zaid Chauhan - Fedora Ambassador wrote: > >> Any Event planned for July in Ahmedabad ? >> >> Ahmedabad is Big city of Gujarat so... >> >> I request Ambassadors from Ahmedabad to plan event , >> >> I also can help, if needed? >> > What kind of help you provide ?? > > >> It's Just query >> >> Thank You >> >> ZAiD >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-india mailing list >> Fedora-india at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india >> > > > -- > Nilesh Vaghela > ElectroMech > Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner > Ahmedabad: 404,Maulik Arcad,Nr. Mansi cross Road,Satellite Rd > Baroda : 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj > www.electromech.info > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Sun Jul 5 14:35:34 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 20:05:34 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <35586fc00907050735y7bcd859dla5975de0b462304d@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > I've noticed, "To get the O.S., you need to visit in person and bring a > blank DVD." on a few of the shipping addresses. I have a somewhat different question - what would it take for us to strengthen the LocalContact way of doing things and, help build local systems of support ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Jul 5 21:38:04 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:08:04 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4A511D3C.8060304@fedoraproject.org> On 07/05/2009 11:09 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > -- The Free media requests are not spread evenly across India > (obviously). Hence, some contributors (like me) only receive only one or > two requests from our regions. I can contribute more than that ( at > least 10-20 _locally_) on a monthly basis. On the other hand, I remember > reading someone mass producing media (pressing to get rates as low as > 2-3 rs a media??) and hence having extra copies that are going waste > (not being used). Hence, there is untapped potential and also unfilled > requests. Can anyone think of a way to use the resource? I haven't heard of anyone doing good quality media replication for 2 Rs. If you find specific details, do let us know. What we try to do is to fund the media replication costs for the media that is useful for events and ambassadors and provide them with the means to reach out to more people. Funding free media efforts is problematic not because of the media replication costs but the distribution costs. More on this below. > > -- Does anyone have knowledge of Ubuntu's project. We could take some > points from there (if its okay to do so, that is). I've *heard* its very > effective. It is effective but it is also funded in a very different way. I think, you are missing the bigger picture here. Canonical, which is the privately funded startup behind Ubuntu wanted to reach more users in a crowded space of multiple distributions about five years back and spend millions of dollars on free shipments. While that has certainly proven effective atleast in the short run, I doubt we are going to follow that model. Red Hat, the primary sponsor behind Fedora is a public company with share holders and if money is going to be spend, it has to be done in a sustainable way. Free media shipments essentially relies on the community to help itself by supporting one another voluntarily. This is by nature, a different scale of operations. If anyone has ideas on doing it better keeping in mind the limited budget, feel free to share it with us. Rahul From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 03:50:18 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:20:18 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: <4A511D3C.8060304@fedoraproject.org> References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A511D3C.8060304@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1246852218.3388.375.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 03:08 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 07/05/2009 11:09 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > > -- The Free media requests are not spread evenly across India > > (obviously). Hence, some contributors (like me) only receive only one or > > two requests from our regions. I can contribute more than that ( at > > least 10-20 _locally_) on a monthly basis. On the other hand, I remember > > reading someone mass producing media (pressing to get rates as low as > > 2-3 rs a media??) and hence having extra copies that are going waste > > (not being used). Hence, there is untapped potential and also unfilled > > requests. Can anyone think of a way to use the resource? > > I haven't heard of anyone doing good quality media replication for 2 Rs. > If you find specific details, do let us know. Oh.. I thought I had read it on the mailing list itself. Maybe I just imagined it. Sorry. > What we try to do is to > fund the media replication costs for the media that is useful for events > and ambassadors and provide them with the means to reach out to more > people. Funding free media efforts is problematic not because of the > media replication costs but the distribution costs. More on this below. > > I understand this. I do have a suggestion regarding shipments. The problem is that even if you send me 50 copies of media, I may not be able to use them all (because of the shipment costs and *low* number of requests from nearby regions). Events and install fests happen only once or twice a semester. I've been in the media programme for a while now and I make it a point to go through every request to see if I can service it. (the ticket system makes this much easier. Thanks Susmit). There have been times where people have not been able to acquire media even though they've tried two months in a row. Since the folks on the requesting side are unaware of the issues that we have to face, all they think is "it's been 2 months and they haven't been able to send me media". I hope you get the drift. > > -- Does anyone have knowledge of Ubuntu's project. We could take some > > points from there (if its okay to do so, that is). I've *heard* its very > > effective. > > It is effective but it is also funded in a very different way. I think, > you are missing the bigger picture here. Canonical, which is the > privately funded startup behind Ubuntu wanted to reach more users in a > crowded space of multiple distributions about five years back and spend > millions of dollars on free shipments. While that has certainly proven > effective atleast in the short run, I doubt we are going to follow that > model. Red Hat, the primary sponsor behind Fedora is a public company > with share holders and if money is going to be spend, it has to be done > in a sustainable way. Free media shipments essentially relies on the > community to help itself by supporting one another voluntarily. This is > by nature, a different scale of operations. If anyone has ideas on doing > it better keeping in mind the limited budget, feel free to share it with > us. > Rahul > Thank you for the clarification Rahul. I'm still too young to have thought of what you mentioned above on my own :) Here's the suggestion regarding the free media programme. It is **very** far fetched and I haven't yet found out about the viability of this method. Please do not crucify me for this ;) Is it possible to partner with a mail service provider. I don't know if "partner" is the right word (maybe "collaborate"?), but I'm hoping you'll get the idea. Here is a short description of my thought stream. - we partner with a mail service provider , say "foo bar". - we give "foo bar" all the mail that Fedora India sends/receives ("exclusive rights" it's called I think), which includes dvd shipments on the free media programme, event packages, event reports. We can even have a clause that enables folks sending us blank dvds by mail to use this service. - I'm guessing this will be something like a "mass shipment" "contract" sorta thing that can enable us to get good shipment rates. I'm sure that the amount that we, the Fedora India community, spends (from sanctioned funds and from what the community members spend voluntarily in mailing stuff) is an attractive package for a shipment company. And its advertisement for them on every mail we send to every corner of the country. - better shipment rates will help the situation a lot.Especially in unifying the media contribution since a contributor from any part of the country will be able to service a request from any location. Again, it's just a thought stream. I am not as well versed in the processes as you (the seniors) are. I'm just trying to lessen the gap between the supplier and one who demands. (/me wishes dvds could be sent via email itself) I know that "blue dart" provides such "service". The Australian high commission in Delhi has such a "contract" with them. -- regards, Ankur From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 05:53:44 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:23:44 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Thank you all - Fedora 11 Release Party, Pune, India In-Reply-To: <4A4F3274.6030104@fedoraproject.org> References: <4A4F3274.6030104@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <35586fc00907052253v37e2f70bvd9d5a1448e4f6d51@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > We had about 60 people attend, ?questions were insightful and the > feedback was motivating. Thank you all for participating and thanks to > Plug for graciously moving the time to accommodate us. ?We will try to > do this for every release and have intermediate events as well to > encourage more participation and contributions. is a blog on the same. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Jul 6 06:02:20 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:32:20 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Introduction to Fedora, What's New in Fedora 11 and What's upcoming in Fedora 12 Message-ID: <4A51936C.90406@fedoraproject.org> Hi A generic template version of the presentation uploaded to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations#Fedora_11_General_Overview Feel free to reuse it for your own talk. Take a look and let me know if you have any feedback. Rahul From sankarshan at fedoraproject.org Mon Jul 6 08:38:35 2009 From: sankarshan at fedoraproject.org (sankarshan) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:08:35 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] For those organizing events around F11 and so forth Message-ID: <35586fc00907060138u720ad25ci36683ca17d9a1c4d@mail.gmail.com> Please ensure that at least two from the following list have had a chance to review your agenda before making an announcement. sundaram at fedoraproject dot org susmit at fedoraproject dot org kushal at fedoraproject dot org If you are looking for funding for the event, please get in touch as early as you can with as much detail as is possible about the costs and, categories of cost. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 09:50:55 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:20:55 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Thank you all - Fedora 11 Release Party, Pune, India In-Reply-To: <4A4F3274.6030104@fedoraproject.org> References: <4A4F3274.6030104@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <35586fc00907060250lf5fe339g5b5bfd2c3d169ae4@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Will followup with blog posts on the event shortly. ?For those who > attended the event, feel free to write to me if you have more feedback > and/or questions. seems to be up -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From sankarshan at fedoraproject.org Tue Jul 7 01:29:01 2009 From: sankarshan at fedoraproject.org (sankarshan) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 06:59:01 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Re: Reliance data card ZTE AC 8710 In-Reply-To: <1246622788.3583.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1246622788.3583.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <35586fc00907061829p5f034abbwc3834d015cece113@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Would anyone be aware if the data card mentioned below works on F10/F11 ? ~sankarshan On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Barefoot wrote: > Dear Support @ Fedora in India > > I bought Relaince High speed 3G data card. Model ZTE AC 8710 > > I use Fedora 10 and open office. Can you pls help me in setting up the > data card. > > Best Regds > Mandira Mohan > Nitin Mohan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From arnavkalra007 at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 13:41:42 2009 From: arnavkalra007 at gmail.com (Arnav Kalra) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:11:42 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Re: queries regarding freemedia Message-ID: <5ac533d50907070641q1335b09ahfc26863f0539a4b1@mail.gmail.com> why don't we make sure that each user who sends smolt database and is in the community gets a dvd but he has to give it friends and new users arnav kalra (fedora inside) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From salvadesswaran at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 16:27:37 2009 From: salvadesswaran at gmail.com (Salvadesswaran P.S.) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 21:57:37 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Re:queries regarding freemediaRe: queries regarding freemedia Message-ID: <47d9fe5c0907070927j48c0957dw998d883e058540be@mail.gmail.com> Hi. That's a nice suggestion, but personally I just download the image, burn a few discs and give all but two away. The remaining two are with me, one for archival purposes, and the other for installing Fedora 11 for friends and relatives. Salvadesswaran Srinivasan. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- why don't we make sure that each user who sends smolt database and is in the community gets a dvd but he has to give it friends and new users arnav kalra (fedora inside) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Jul 7 16:30:04 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:00:04 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Re: queries regarding freemedia In-Reply-To: <5ac533d50907070641q1335b09ahfc26863f0539a4b1@mail.gmail.com> References: <5ac533d50907070641q1335b09ahfc26863f0539a4b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A53780C.5090002@fedoraproject.org> On 07/07/2009 07:11 PM, Arnav Kalra wrote: > why don't we make sure that each user who sends smolt database and is in > the community gets a dvd but he has to give it friends and new users > arnav kalra (fedora inside) Smolt profiles are submitted anonymously. We cannot require that everyone submit contact information for sending DVD's. Rahul From salvadesswaran at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 16:35:43 2009 From: salvadesswaran at gmail.com (Salvadesswaran P.S.) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:05:43 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Re: Reliance data card ZTE AC 8710 Message-ID: <47d9fe5c0907070935l37e38004q5ff7d4e3bedf378d@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I think there are Linux drivers, but since the product is of Chinese make, I doubt if the drivers compile properly. I've had trouble with Chinese wireless products on Linux in the past. You can look here: http://outbackwifi.blogspot.com/2009/06/howto-connect-to-internet-using-zte-ac.html The method seems to have worked fine with Ubuntu, but I wonder if it would work on Fedora. Salvadesswaran Srinivasan, Fedora Ambassador, Mozilla Campus Representative, SSN College Of Engineering. From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Jul 7 16:34:25 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:04:25 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: <1246852218.3388.375.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A511D3C.8060304@fedoraproject.org> <1246852218.3388.375.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4A537911.2090606@fedoraproject.org> On 07/06/2009 09:20 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > I know that "blue dart" provides such "service". The Australian high > commission in Delhi has such a "contract" with them. The amount of couriers we are going to be sending is lower than them and it would end up costing a bomb shell. I would gladly outsource the couriering/media replication etc to a separate agency if they charge reasonable rates and would take care of it entirely. I haven't found one. Rahul From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 17:06:36 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:36:36 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: <4A537911.2090606@fedoraproject.org> References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A511D3C.8060304@fedoraproject.org> <1246852218.3388.375.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A537911.2090606@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1246986396.3352.163.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 22:04 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 07/06/2009 09:20 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > > > > I know that "blue dart" provides such "service". The Australian high > > commission in Delhi has such a "contract" with them. > > The amount of couriers we are going to be sending is lower than them and > it would end up costing a bomb shell. I would gladly outsource the > couriering/media replication etc to a separate agency if they charge > reasonable rates and would take care of it entirely. I haven't found one. > > Rahul > That's sad to hear. But as I had mentioned, I hadn't worked out the practicality of the idea. Guess we'll need to think up more ideas. -- regards, Ankur From shekhawat.anirudh at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 20:48:59 2009 From: shekhawat.anirudh at gmail.com (Anirudh Shekhawat) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 13:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [fedora-india] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn Message-ID: <81390314.790657.1246999739452.JavaMail.app@ech3-cdn05.prod> LinkedIn ------------ I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Anirudh Learn more: https://www.linkedin.com/e/isd/642278833/SquG4kFB/ ------ (c) 2009, LinkedIn Corporation -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Rahul From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 02:41:21 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:11:21 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: <4A537911.2090606@fedoraproject.org> References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A511D3C.8060304@fedoraproject.org> <1246852218.3388.375.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A537911.2090606@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <35586fc00907071941l3dd4da28p83833c76401d303@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 07/06/2009 09:20 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > >> >> I know that "blue dart" provides such "service". The Australian high >> commission in Delhi has such a "contract" with them. > > The amount of couriers we are going to be sending is lower than them and > it would end up costing a bomb shell. I would gladly outsource the > couriering/media replication etc to a separate agency if they charge > reasonable rates and would take care of it entirely. I haven't found one. In most of the discussions around FreeMedia, the thread eventually boils down to "there are more requests than there are volunteers to service those requests and, the costs of courier are exponentially high". How about looking at the problem in terms of folks are requesting for media (note the absence of the the phrase "free of cost") and, we need to think up a way to route the media to these folks ? Or, in other words, how many routes can we think up that would get the media to them ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 03:26:42 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:56:42 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: <35586fc00907071941l3dd4da28p83833c76401d303@mail.gmail.com> References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A511D3C.8060304@fedoraproject.org> <1246852218.3388.375.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A537911.2090606@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00907071941l3dd4da28p83833c76401d303@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > In most of the discussions around FreeMedia, the thread eventually > boils down to "there are more requests than there are volunteers to > service those requests and, the costs of courier are exponentially > high". How about looking at the problem in terms of folks are > requesting for media (note the absence of the the phrase "free of > cost") and, we need to think up a way to route the media to these > folks ? Or, in other words, how many routes can we think up that would > get the media to them ? The easiest option will be to keep a field like: * I want to pay the postage. * I don't want to pay the postage. But I am not sure if that would be allowed as per policy. Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 03:34:24 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:04:24 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A511D3C.8060304@fedoraproject.org> <1246852218.3388.375.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A537911.2090606@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00907071941l3dd4da28p83833c76401d303@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00907072034t61687357p52fc13f3b60b6652@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:56 AM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > The easiest option will be to keep a field like: > > * I want to pay the postage. > * I don't want to pay the postage. That's one route. I am sure that there are more than one way to get to a solution for this problem. A query I had was - is it possible to have a geographical representation of the FreeMedia requests ? Perhaps we could try and get some LocalContacts going as close as possible. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 03:39:56 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:09:56 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: <35586fc00907072034t61687357p52fc13f3b60b6652@mail.gmail.com> References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A511D3C.8060304@fedoraproject.org> <1246852218.3388.375.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A537911.2090606@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00907071941l3dd4da28p83833c76401d303@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907072034t61687357p52fc13f3b60b6652@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > That's one route. I am sure that there are more than one way to get to > a solution for this problem. A query I had was - is it possible to > have a geographical representation of the FreeMedia requests ? Technically, kids play. ;) But can we log the browser data without consent from user/requester? > Perhaps > we could try and get some LocalContacts going as close as possible. But we have a *lot* of LocalContacts, but does that fulfill any of the freemedia requests? I have not seen any. Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From sherry151 at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 04:06:36 2009 From: sherry151 at gmail.com (Rangeen Basu) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:36:36 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A511D3C.8060304@fedoraproject.org> <1246852218.3388.375.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A537911.2090606@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00907071941l3dd4da28p83833c76401d303@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907072034t61687357p52fc13f3b60b6652@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:09 AM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > But we have a *lot* of LocalContacts, but does that fulfill any of the > freemedia requests? > I have not seen any. Very true. Local contacts can serve requests which originate from within a rang of a few kilometres. Anything beyond that boils down to the same postage issue. Even the next city is out of reach for local contacts. People are not willing to travel and collect the media themselves. It is much easier for them to obtain a pirated Windows CD. One alternative is to use VPP [1] . If we can keep some option as Susmit suggested, "I want to pay" or "I don't want to pay" and if free media is not "free as in free beer", then we can send the media through VPP and collect the money from India Post once the media is delivered. I am not sure though what will happen if the delivery is refused. According to India Post site, it will be returned to the sender and the sender needs to pay any "outstanding dues", not sure what outstanding dues mean but that can be found out easily. Once a freemedia request is accepted, the acceptor can mail the requester and take his confirmation before mailing the disc through VPP. In this way the chances of denial during delivery will be reduced a lot. The requester will have to pay approximately Rs 50 (cost of DVD + postage). [1] http://www.indiapost.gov.in/Netscape/ValuePayableArticles.html -- Regards Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury Fedora Ambassador sherry151 at gmail.com From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 03:59:59 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:29:59 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A511D3C.8060304@fedoraproject.org> <1246852218.3388.375.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A537911.2090606@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00907071941l3dd4da28p83833c76401d303@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907072034t61687357p52fc13f3b60b6652@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00907072059r3ad03d7atb44323e3dea2b0d3@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:09 AM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: >> That's one route. I am sure that there are more than one way to get to >> a solution for this problem. A query I had was - is it possible to >> have a geographical representation of the FreeMedia requests ? > > Technically, kids play. ;) > But can we log the browser data without consent from user/requester? Which brings up a somewhat different problem - without having the means to have a geographical view of the requests, it would be difficult to formulate an action. Looking at the places which generate the most number of requests would allow us to figure out how best to triage. There are two ways at looking at a solution - [1] the ultimate and perfect solution and, [2] the optimal solution that allows the highest number of people to receive the media they requested. >> Perhaps >> we could try and get some LocalContacts going as close as possible. > > But we have a *lot* of LocalContacts, but does that fulfill any of the > freemedia requests? > I have not seen any. Precisely. So, "why can't the Local Contacts be active ?" Should we be asking them this question ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 04:18:04 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:48:04 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A511D3C.8060304@fedoraproject.org> <1246852218.3388.375.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A537911.2090606@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00907071941l3dd4da28p83833c76401d303@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907072034t61687357p52fc13f3b60b6652@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00907072118y26c84de0m7368bae30cc93b92@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Rangeen Basu wrote: > Very true. Local contacts can serve requests which originate from > within a rang of a few kilometres. Anything beyond that boils down to > the same postage issue. Even the next city is out of reach for local > contacts. People are not willing to travel and collect the media > themselves. It is much easier for them to obtain a pirated Windows CD. I tend to think that I have had enough talk about "Windows CD" (pirated is a singularly unfit term to use for software) or, "other Linux distributions". From what I recall, the LocalContacts was an experiment to ensure the following: [1] local outreach happens [2] a locally available support system is incubated I am yet to see a positive outcome of either goals. Which is why I had the query about whether it is possible for the local contact to get a geographic profile of requests. If we do not have enough local contacts to be present across every city we are receiving requests from, our question should be "why not" and, we should start thinking about what can be done. If we have existing LocalContacts not providing media at-cost, our questions should be "why can't they" and, we should start a conversation about how they could be doing this. > One alternative is to use VPP [1] . As much as I like everyone to receive a media. I guess that just bulk producing media to continue shipments is not going to be a good thing. There should be ways and means to outreach. For example, there are UserGroups a plenty - can we figure out a way to tie into them as well as have them accountable for shipping the media. I know PuneLUG does an awesomely good job of doing so, how about other UGs ? The UGs at institutes for example - does their charter allow them to ship media at-cost ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From sherry151 at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 04:37:35 2009 From: sherry151 at gmail.com (Rangeen Basu) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:07:35 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: <35586fc00907072118y26c84de0m7368bae30cc93b92@mail.gmail.com> References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A511D3C.8060304@fedoraproject.org> <1246852218.3388.375.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A537911.2090606@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00907071941l3dd4da28p83833c76401d303@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907072034t61687357p52fc13f3b60b6652@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907072118y26c84de0m7368bae30cc93b92@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:48 AM, sankarshan wrote: > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Rangeen Basu wrote: > > > As much as I like everyone to receive a media. I guess that just bulk > producing media to continue shipments is not going to be a good thing. Extremely sorry if my thoughts were not clear but I wasn't tlaking about bulk producing media rather I was talking about a way freemedia contributors can send media to the requesters. Normally freemedia contributors would buy media , burn them and pot them. I would be nice if this cost could e borne by the requesters, if not in full then at least a part of it. If there is a general consensus in this regard then the freemedia contributors can start using this method. > There should be ways and means to outreach. For example, there are > UserGroups a plenty - can we figure out a way to tie into them as well > as have them accountable for shipping the media. I know PuneLUG does > an awesomely good job of doing so, how about other UGs ? The UGs at > institutes for example - does their charter allow them to ship media > at-cost ? This is obviously a way but there is still the problem of postage cost. The user group members are nothing more than volunteers and at institutes, mere students. How can distribution of freemedia by a LUG be funded? I know that the Institute LUGs do have the Institute as a source of fund but that is not enough. Plus a lot of requests from the institute students need to be served and after that little is left to send out.Coming to shipping media at-cost, I think what I said about freemedia contributors above holds for UGs as well. They obviously can. But a general consensus is required and a message needs to be propagated that "freemedia is not free as in free beer". If the requesters agree, the contributors agree and the parent body i.e the freemedia managing committee agrees then there will be very little hindrance. P.S: My thought about using VPP is only a way of collecting the money and is probably the cheapest way other than wire transfer, which is probably not feasible. I would also like to know what other people think of this. -- Regards Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury Fedora Ambassador sherry151 at gmail.com From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 05:01:01 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:31:01 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A511D3C.8060304@fedoraproject.org> <1246852218.3388.375.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A537911.2090606@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00907071941l3dd4da28p83833c76401d303@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907072034t61687357p52fc13f3b60b6652@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1247029261.3352.205.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 09:36 +0530, Rangeen Basu wrote: > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:09 AM, susmit > shannigrahi wrote: > > > > But we have a *lot* of LocalContacts, but does that fulfill any of the > > freemedia requests? > > I have not seen any. > > Very true. Local contacts can serve requests which originate from > within a rang of a few kilometres. Anything beyond that boils down to > the same postage issue. Even the next city is out of reach for local > contacts. People are not willing to travel and collect the media > themselves. It is much easier for them to obtain a pirated Windows CD. > > One alternative is to use VPP [1] . If we can keep some option as > Susmit suggested, "I want to pay" or "I don't want to pay" and if free > media is not "free as in free beer", then we can send the media > through VPP and collect the money from India Post once the media is > delivered. I am not sure though what will happen if the delivery is > refused. According to India Post site, it will be returned to the > sender and the sender needs to pay any "outstanding dues", not sure > what outstanding dues mean but that can be found out easily. Once a > freemedia request is accepted, the acceptor can mail the requester and > take his confirmation before mailing the disc through VPP. In this way > the chances of denial during delivery will be reduced a lot. The > requester will have to pay approximately Rs 50 (cost of DVD + > postage). > > [1] http://www.indiapost.gov.in/Netscape/ValuePayableArticles.html > hi, This is a good suggestion, but I think we'll end up having a lot of refusals :| . Rahul said that the number of media requests we service is comparitively small. I'd like to know approximately how much this is: @Rahul, what is to max number of free media requests that can be serviced from "official" funds? @others, how many requests have you serviced by *mail" (free media or otherwise). Since mailing media from anywhere to anywhere costs 25 rs, all media being sent from one "free media center" (only one) will be the addition of all the above counts. I'm hoping the number will be large enough to "outsource the couriering/media replication etc to a separate agency if they charge reasonable rates and would take care of it entirely" -- regards, Ankur From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 05:11:34 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:41:34 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: <35586fc00907072118y26c84de0m7368bae30cc93b92@mail.gmail.com> References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A511D3C.8060304@fedoraproject.org> <1246852218.3388.375.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A537911.2090606@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00907071941l3dd4da28p83833c76401d303@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907072034t61687357p52fc13f3b60b6652@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907072118y26c84de0m7368bae30cc93b92@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1247029894.3352.216.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 09:48 +0530, sankarshan wrote: > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Rangeen Basu wrote: > > > Very true. Local contacts can serve requests which originate from > > within a rang of a few kilometres. Anything beyond that boils down to > > the same postage issue. Even the next city is out of reach for local > > contacts. People are not willing to travel and collect the media > > themselves. It is much easier for them to obtain a pirated Windows CD. > > I tend to think that I have had enough talk about "Windows CD" > (pirated is a singularly unfit term to use for software) or, "other > Linux distributions". From what I recall, the LocalContacts was an > experiment to ensure the following: > > [1] local outreach happens > [2] a locally available support system is incubated > > I am yet to see a positive outcome of either goals. Which is why I had > the query about whether it is possible for the local contact to get a > geographic profile of requests. > > If we do not have enough local contacts to be present across every > city we are receiving requests from, our question should be "why not" This is because everyone that requests a media does not turn into a local contact. The media is not following the "receiver becomes donor" scheme that we want it to. > and, we should start thinking about what can be done. If we have > existing LocalContacts not providing media at-cost, our questions > should be "why can't they" and, we should start a conversation about > how they could be doing this. Local contacts are usually students who have a fixed pocket money. You can do the math :) > > > One alternative is to use VPP [1] . > > As much as I like everyone to receive a media. I guess that just bulk > producing media to continue shipments is not going to be a good thing. > There should be ways and means to outreach. For example, there are > UserGroups a plenty - can we figure out a way to tie into them as well > as have them accountable for shipping the media. I know PuneLUG does > an awesomely good job of doing so, how about other UGs ? The UGs at > institutes for example - does their charter allow them to ship media > at-cost ? > > As Rangeen mentions in his reply, UGs are merely students. Again , same equation. Another variable that messes this up is that Fedora isn't the only distribution around. Since they are Linux UGs and not Fedora UGs, getting people to distribute fedora dvds is difficult. They all support their different distributions and fundamentally want the same thing we do, for them. There's a hefty discussion as to which distro we are going to use in the install fest. Its not always Fedora. A query: Are all the local contacts members of the free media list, rather, do they all check to see if there are requests that they can service or is this done by somebody (who assigns such media requests to local contacts)?? -- regards, Ankur From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 05:45:48 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:15:48 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: <1247029894.3352.216.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1246852218.3388.375.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A537911.2090606@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00907071941l3dd4da28p83833c76401d303@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907072034t61687357p52fc13f3b60b6652@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907072118y26c84de0m7368bae30cc93b92@mail.gmail.com> <1247029894.3352.216.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <35586fc00907072245p27375cefje6a93a675271d219@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > This is because everyone that requests a media does not turn into a > local contact. The media is not following the "receiver becomes donor" > scheme that we want it to. We never did visualize the "receiver becomes donor" way of paying it forward. The idea was to de-lineate the LocalContacts from the "free" FreeMedia aspect. Which in plain terms means that the LCs should be able to project that they are charging for the media. > Local contacts are usually students who have a fixed pocket money. You > can do the math :) So, do I take it that the students will not want to set up a system whereby they can charge for media and, keep a margin for themselves ? That's a paradox really. I would have thought that given the volume of demand and scarcity of supply, it should have been a reasonably nice opportunity. > As Rangeen mentions in his reply, UGs are merely students. Again , same > equation. Another variable that messes this up is that Fedora isn't the > only distribution around. Since they are Linux UGs and not Fedora UGs, > getting people to distribute fedora dvds is difficult. They all support > their different distributions and fundamentally want the same thing we > do, for them. There's a hefty discussion as to which distro we are going > to use in the install fest. Its not always Fedora. Let me rephrase the question (assuming that neither Rangeen nor you did get the drift) - can UGs actually be ready to set up a system whereby they charge for media when requested and, keep the margin in the UG account ? For example, http://plug.org.in/software.php - is this model difficult to replicate across other UGs and, especially institute UGs ? > A query: Are all the local contacts members of the free media list, > rather, do they all check to see if there are requests that they can > service or is this done by somebody (who assigns such media requests to > local contacts)?? I don't have the answer to that off-hand, but I can check around. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 05:51:08 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:21:08 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1246852218.3388.375.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A537911.2090606@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00907071941l3dd4da28p83833c76401d303@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907072034t61687357p52fc13f3b60b6652@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907072118y26c84de0m7368bae30cc93b92@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00907072251u4413608fkc2f2fc7b87595952@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Rangeen Basu wrote: > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:48 AM, sankarshan wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Rangeen Basu wrote: >> >> >> As much as I like everyone to receive a media. I guess that just bulk >> producing media to continue shipments is not going to be a good thing. > > Extremely sorry if my thoughts were not clear but I wasn't tlaking > about bulk producing media rather I was talking about a way freemedia > contributors can send media to the requesters. Normally freemedia > contributors would buy media , burn them and pot them. I would be nice > if this cost could e borne by the requesters, if not in full then at > least a part of it. If there is a general consensus in this regard > then the freemedia contributors can start using this method. It might sound heretic, but here's what I see happening - we already provide Freedom as a feature :) giving away the media for free (ie. no-cost) is not helping us make much headway. Freedom and free-of-cost are not getting appreciated and, we seem to be ending up with more freeloading than we can handle. The budget is finite (and, it is minute) so, we simply cannot go on pushing money into the game. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From bamirthampr at in.com Wed Jul 8 05:57:51 2009 From: bamirthampr at in.com (Amirtham purendra raman bala) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:27:51 +0530 Subject: =?UTF-8?B?RndkOlJlOiBbRmVkb3JhLUluZGlhXSBRdWVyaWVzIHJlZ2FyZGluZyB0aGUgRnJlZSBtZWRpYSBwcm9qZWN0IGluIEluZGlh?= In-Reply-To: <35586fc00907072251u4413608fkc2f2fc7b87595952@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1247032671.097e26b2ffb0339458b55da17425a71f@mail.in.com> With Love B.A p Raman Original message From:sankarshan< foss.mailinglists at gmail.com >Date: 08 July 09 11:21:08Subject:Re: [FedoraIndia] Queries regarding the Free media project in IndiaTo: fedoraindia at redhat.comOn Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Rangeen Basu wrote: > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:48 AM, sankarshan wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Rangeen Basu wrote: >> >> >> As much as I like everyone to receive a media. I guess that just bulk >> producing media to continue shipments is not going to be a good thing. > > Extremely sorry if my thoughts were not clear but I wasn't tlaking > about bulk producing media rather I was talking about a way freemedia > contributors can send media to the requesters. Normally freemedia > contributors would buy media , burn them and pot them. I would be nice > if this cost could e borne by the requesters, if not in full then at > least a part of it. If there is a general consensus in this regard > then the freemedia contributors can sta rt using this method.It might sound heretic, but here's what I see happening we already provide Freedom as a feature :) giving away the media for free (ie. nocost) is not helping us make much headway. Freedom and freeofcost are not getting appreciated and, we seem to be ending up with more freeloading than we can handle. 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URL: From bamirthampr at in.com Wed Jul 8 05:58:06 2009 From: bamirthampr at in.com (Amirtham purendra raman bala) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:28:06 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fwd:[Ambassadors] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn In-Reply-To: <1193951748.790647.1246999739294.JavaMail.app@ech3-cdn05.prod> Message-ID: <1247032686.0cc6928e741d75e7a92396317522069e@mail.in.com> With Love B.A p Raman Original message From:Anirudh Shekhawat< shekhawat.anirudh at gmail.com >Date: 08 July 09 02:18:59Subject:[Ambassadors] Invitation to connect on LinkedInTo:LinkedIn I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. AnirudhAccept Anirudh Shekhawat's invite: https://www.linkedin.com/e/isd/642278830/wlPrurA0/ ? 2009, LinkedIn Corporation -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 8 06:03:16 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:33:16 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: <1247029261.3352.205.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A511D3C.8060304@fedoraproject.org> <1246852218.3388.375.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A537911.2090606@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00907071941l3dd4da28p83833c76401d303@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907072034t61687357p52fc13f3b60b6652@mail.gmail.com> <1247029261.3352.205.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4A5436A4.2060208@fedoraproject.org> On 07/08/2009 10:31 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > This is a good suggestion, but I think we'll end up having a lot of > refusals :| . > > Rahul said that the number of media requests we service is comparitively > small. I'd like to know approximately how much this is: > > @Rahul, what is to max number of free media requests that can be > serviced from "official" funds? We don't use the funds for free media. We send bulk media (100 or 200 DVD's say) for local point of contacts who then redistribute it to ambassadors or free media project in their local area. This works for major cities. We also send media + other goodies for free software events organized by the ambassadors or other Fedora contributors as well. Rahul From rtnpro at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 07:22:29 2009 From: rtnpro at gmail.com (Ratnadeep Debnath) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:52:29 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] External disk drives don't have original access rights when auto mounted in Fedora11 Message-ID: <467c41720907080022n6a1ac916yec12c6aed7c59c1c@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I am using Fedora 11. I am finding the way F11 auto mounts external disk drives a bit weird. In case of my Maxtor USB HDD, labeled MyStorage, F11 mounts with the following permissions. drwx------ 1 rtnpro rtnpro 8192 2009-07-07 23:14 /media/MyStorage/ Similar kind of permissions are for my MicroSD memory card drwx------ 16 rtnpro rtnpro 16384 1970-01-01 05:30 /media/Memory card/ /etc/mstab gives the following info : /dev/sdb1 /media/MyStorage fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096 0 0 /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/Memory\040card vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=devkit,uid=500,gid=500,shortname=lower,dmask=0077,utf8=1,flush 0 0 This was not the case in Fedora 10. I want to get the external drives automounted with their default permissions. Thanks, Regards, rtnpro From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 07:33:11 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:03:11 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: <35586fc00907072245p27375cefje6a93a675271d219@mail.gmail.com> References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1246852218.3388.375.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A537911.2090606@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00907071941l3dd4da28p83833c76401d303@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907072034t61687357p52fc13f3b60b6652@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907072118y26c84de0m7368bae30cc93b92@mail.gmail.com> <1247029894.3352.216.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907072245p27375cefje6a93a675271d219@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1247038391.3352.299.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 11:15 +0530, sankarshan wrote: > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > > This is because everyone that requests a media does not turn into a > > local contact. The media is not following the "receiver becomes donor" > > scheme that we want it to. > > We never did visualize the "receiver becomes donor" way of paying it > forward. The idea was to de-lineate the LocalContacts from the "free" > FreeMedia aspect. Which in plain terms means that the LCs should be > able to project that they are charging for the media. I don't understand the last sentence. "project that they are charging for the media" meaning? > > > Local contacts are usually students who have a fixed pocket money. You > > can do the math :) > > So, do I take it that the students will not want to set up a system > whereby they can charge for media and, keep a margin for themselves ? > That's a paradox really. I would have thought that given the volume of > demand and scarcity of supply, it should have been a reasonably nice > opportunity. > > > As Rangeen mentions in his reply, UGs are merely students. Again , same > > equation. Another variable that messes this up is that Fedora isn't the > > only distribution around. Since they are Linux UGs and not Fedora UGs, > > getting people to distribute fedora dvds is difficult. They all support > > their different distributions and fundamentally want the same thing we > > do, for them. There's a hefty discussion as to which distro we are going > > to use in the install fest. Its not always Fedora. > > Let me rephrase the question (assuming that neither Rangeen nor you > did get the drift) - can UGs actually be ready to set up a system > whereby they charge for media when requested and, keep the margin in > the UG account ? For example, http://plug.org.in/software.php - is > this model difficult to replicate across other UGs and, especially > institute UGs ? > I do get the drift. I understand what you're saying. Here's a clarification: Any decision taken by the LUG has to be consented upon by the majority. The majority here has a stand that says "we will not charge for ANYTHING". Its a different matter altogether that the majority is not involved in activities that require finance (ie mailing media etc.). What you're saying (the example of PLUG etc.) has already been discussed since the little extra that we collect can be used for any events etc. that we plan. However, i haven't gotten a positive response (yet). > > A query: Are all the local contacts members of the free media list, > > rather, do they all check to see if there are requests that they can > > service or is this done by somebody (who assigns such media requests to > > local contacts)?? > > I don't have the answer to that off-hand, but I can check around. > okay, thanks. -- regards, Ankur From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 07:56:09 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:26:09 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: <1247038391.3352.299.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907071941l3dd4da28p83833c76401d303@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907072034t61687357p52fc13f3b60b6652@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907072118y26c84de0m7368bae30cc93b92@mail.gmail.com> <1247029894.3352.216.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907072245p27375cefje6a93a675271d219@mail.gmail.com> <1247038391.3352.299.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <35586fc00907080056k3e9a72as42b79eab7f3f27b1@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 11:15 +0530, sankarshan wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: >> >> > This is because everyone that requests a media does not turn into a >> > local contact. The media is not following the "receiver becomes donor" >> > scheme that we want it to. >> >> We never did visualize the "receiver becomes donor" way of paying it >> forward. The idea was to de-lineate the LocalContacts from the "free" >> FreeMedia aspect. Which in plain terms means that the LCs should be >> able to project that they are charging for the media. > > I don't understand the last sentence. "project that they are charging > for the media" meaning? The LocalContacts should be able to represent with clarity that they are/would be charging for the media is probably an apt way to phrase that sentence. /sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 08:04:36 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:34:36 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: <35586fc00907080056k3e9a72as42b79eab7f3f27b1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907071941l3dd4da28p83833c76401d303@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907072034t61687357p52fc13f3b60b6652@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907072118y26c84de0m7368bae30cc93b92@mail.gmail.com> <1247029894.3352.216.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907072245p27375cefje6a93a675271d219@mail.gmail.com> <1247038391.3352.299.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907080056k3e9a72as42b79eab7f3f27b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1247040276.3352.321.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 13:26 +0530, sankarshan wrote: > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 11:15 +0530, sankarshan wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > >> > >> > This is because everyone that requests a media does not turn into a > >> > local contact. The media is not following the "receiver becomes donor" > >> > scheme that we want it to. > >> > >> We never did visualize the "receiver becomes donor" way of paying it > >> forward. The idea was to de-lineate the LocalContacts from the "free" > >> FreeMedia aspect. Which in plain terms means that the LCs should be > >> able to project that they are charging for the media. > > > > I don't understand the last sentence. "project that they are charging > > for the media" meaning? > > The LocalContacts should be able to represent with clarity that they > are/would be charging for the media is probably an apt way to phrase > that sentence. > > /sankarshan > The essential clarification needed is whether they would charge only the cost of media + postage or would there also be a "service charge"? -- regards, Ankur From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 08:32:02 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:02:02 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: <1247040276.3352.321.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907072034t61687357p52fc13f3b60b6652@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907072118y26c84de0m7368bae30cc93b92@mail.gmail.com> <1247029894.3352.216.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907072245p27375cefje6a93a675271d219@mail.gmail.com> <1247038391.3352.299.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907080056k3e9a72as42b79eab7f3f27b1@mail.gmail.com> <1247040276.3352.321.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <35586fc00907080132i4b7fa470xca50a9ab0c5e56c2@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > The essential clarification needed is whether they would charge only the > cost of media + postage or would there also be a "service charge"? I do not see a reason for them not to have a margin of service cost built into the price. As long as they remain accountable (ie. are willing to be providing media replacements etc should the media be bad), there is no harm in running this as a profit making initiative. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 09:22:06 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:52:06 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: <35586fc00907080132i4b7fa470xca50a9ab0c5e56c2@mail.gmail.com> References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907072034t61687357p52fc13f3b60b6652@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907072118y26c84de0m7368bae30cc93b92@mail.gmail.com> <1247029894.3352.216.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907072245p27375cefje6a93a675271d219@mail.gmail.com> <1247038391.3352.299.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907080056k3e9a72as42b79eab7f3f27b1@mail.gmail.com> <1247040276.3352.321.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907080132i4b7fa470xca50a9ab0c5e56c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1247044926.3352.325.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 14:02 +0530, sankarshan wrote: > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > > The essential clarification needed is whether they would charge only the > > cost of media + postage or would there also be a "service charge"? > > I do not see a reason for them not to have a margin of service cost > built into the price. As long as they remain accountable (ie. are > willing to be providing media replacements etc should the media be > bad), there is no harm in running this as a profit making initiative. hi, I've written a draft to the LUG seniors here regarding this. However, the margin that we receive will be used for the LUG's events etc. and not any profit. I'd prefer if Local Contacts did not use this as a profit making venture (charge only media and posting costs). But that's just my view on the subject. -- regards, Ankur From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 8 10:48:55 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:18:55 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora 11 Media update Message-ID: <4A547997.6060208@fedoraproject.org> Hi, Fedora 11 media has been courier to the following people (cc'ed). If you are in and around the locality, feel free to collect from them in a couple of days Shakthi Kannan - Hyderabad Balaji G - Chennai Susmit - Kolkatta Rahul From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 11:49:15 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:19:15 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [Fedora- India] : Fedora India meet this sunday 1800 hrs? Message-ID: <1247053755.3352.393.camel@localhost.localdomain> hi, Fedora Ambassadors : India Can everyone please save some time and meet at #fedora-india at Freenode this *Sunday, 12th July at 1800 IST*? We had a weekly meet which died out for some reason. The purpose of the meet is to restart communications within the community. This is what I have in mind : - Update the community with everyone's activity in the past few months and to discuss problems - Future plans for events and such. - Feedback/suggestions The time as of now is 1800. Please feel free to post if it's not convenient to you. Please add more agendas to the meet (its really small for the time being :) ). Lastly, please attend :) Please reply to this thread if you intend to attend, so we have an idea of the number of people expected. -- regards, Ankur From sgireeshmail at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 12:27:26 2009 From: sgireeshmail at gmail.com (Gireesh Sreekantan) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:57:26 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [Fedora- India] : Fedora India meet this sunday 1800 hrs? In-Reply-To: <1247053755.3352.393.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1247053755.3352.393.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4A5490AE.1080004@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/08/2009 05:19 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > Please reply to this thread if you intend to attend, so we have an idea > of the number of people expected. I'll attend. - -- Gireesh -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkpUkK4ACgkQji0bnveIaEZhmwCfWBDLETDs7nSkGIec580kmhIo cXUAnRoScV0MzdcMRZR2usiuIZo5tZpn =6PkG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 12:40:41 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 18:10:41 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Anyone interested in Fedora-Medical (suggest better name) spin? Message-ID: Hi, I was just thinking, we seriously lack apps for tapping this particular section, that is the health care and medical community. Time to roll out a spin? It is going to be a good selling point and good work if done. Also have a look at this huge list ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_healthcare#Public_Health_and_Biosurveillance Many of these need to be packaged. I am in, any other hands? Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 12:47:29 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:17:29 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Anyone interested in Fedora-Medical (suggest better name) spin? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1247057249.3352.394.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 18:10 +0530, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Hi, > > I was just thinking, we seriously lack apps for tapping this > particular section, > > that is the health care and medical community. > Time to roll out a spin? It is going to be a good selling point and > good work if done. > > Also have a look at this huge list ;) > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_healthcare#Public_Health_and_Biosurveillance > Many of these need to be packaged. > > I am in, any other hands? > > Thanks. > I can *try* packaging a something from here. -- regards, Ankur From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 12:57:27 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 18:27:27 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Anyone interested in Fedora-Medical (suggest better name) spin? In-Reply-To: <1247057249.3352.394.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1247057249.3352.394.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: > > I can *try* packaging a something from here. okies..thanks. But it is not the only thing needed. As I said, it is going to be a huge project and needs to be started from drawing-board. Once a few more hands go up, I shall ask for help in the other lists. Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From aanjhan at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 13:05:26 2009 From: aanjhan at gmail.com (Aanjhan R) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:05:26 +0200 Subject: [fedora-india] Anyone interested in Fedora-Medical (suggest better name) spin? In-Reply-To: References: <1247057249.3352.394.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:57 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > But it is not the only thing needed. > As I said, it is going to be a huge project and needs to be started > from drawing-board. Great initiative. Will definitely be a great success and if you don't mind I would like to share some of my thoughts below. It is very easy to get lost and start including all random health care packages into the spin. Its important to define a criteria for a package to be included into the SPIN. For e.g in FEL, the first question Chitlesh asks when you say "Why can't we have this in FEL" is, "Where does it fit in the design flow". This question immediately and effectively removes all possible packages that never shall be used out. Every package in FEL is part of a "Electronic Design flow process", be it Requirements, Scheduling, Design, Prototyping, Testing and final Signoff. So my point is its _very_ important to have such a flow on the drawing board to not lose focus in the future. And IMO should be done at a very initial stage. All the best. Regards, Aanjhan From siddharth at techbugs.org Wed Jul 8 13:09:24 2009 From: siddharth at techbugs.org (Siddharth Upmanyu) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 18:39:24 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: <1247044926.3352.325.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907072118y26c84de0m7368bae30cc93b92@mail.gmail.com> <1247029894.3352.216.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907072245p27375cefje6a93a675271d219@mail.gmail.com> <1247038391.3352.299.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907080056k3e9a72as42b79eab7f3f27b1@mail.gmail.com> <1247040276.3352.321.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907080132i4b7fa470xca50a9ab0c5e56c2@mail.gmail.com> <1247044926.3352.325.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 14:02 +0530, sankarshan wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Ankur Sinha > wrote: > > > > > The essential clarification needed is whether they would charge only > the > > > cost of media + postage or would there also be a "service charge"? > > > > I do not see a reason for them not to have a margin of service cost > > built into the price. As long as they remain accountable (ie. are > > willing to be providing media replacements etc should the media be > > bad), there is no harm in running this as a profit making initiative. > > hi, > > I've written a draft to the LUG seniors here regarding this. However, > the margin that we receive will be used for the LUG's events etc. and > not any profit. > > > I'd prefer if Local Contacts did not use this as a profit making venture > (charge only media and posting costs). But that's just my view on the > subject. > > -- > regards, > > Ankur > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > Hi All, wanted to add to the points where we are talking about the ''real'' problems of not being able to conduct a ''successful'' free-media program... the biggest one stays : we are not organized... we have all the people (lot more to start off) we have resources.. (Rahul and Sankarshan have mentioned far to often) but we remain unorganized.. weekly meetings didnt worked (not as expected).. mailing lists receive fragmented response (i'll also find a hiding place for these :-) ) We need a working group to handle Free-media .. a core committee that meets often and they in turn coordinate at their level (regional or volume) Suggestions? Regards Siddharth -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 14:13:28 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:43:28 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] dekstop-file-utils Message-ID: <1247062408.3352.407.camel@localhost.localdomain> hi, Can somebody shed more light on the above package please? This is what google gave me: "Definition: desktop-file-utils: .desktop files are used to describe an application for inclusion in GNOME or KDE menus. This package contains desktop-file-validate which checks whether a .desktop file complies with the specification athttp:// www.freedesktop.org/standards/, and desktop-file-install which installs a desktop file to the standard directory, optionally fixing it up in the process." I've understood desktop-file-install (somewhat) from the above definition. However, I have been suggested to use update-desktop-database.[1] $ yum whatprovides update-desktop-database ... desktop-file-utils-0.15-3.fc10.x86_64 : Utilities for manipulating .desktop files Repo : fedora Matched from: Filename : /usr/bin/update-desktop-database Can somebody please tell me what update-desktop-database is responsible for? As much in detail as possible please? More info on the other two apps (desktop-file-validate/install) would also be great. I've already been here [2]. It merely describes how to use them in a spec and not what they do. :( [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507052#c6 [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ScriptletSnippets#desktop-database -- regards, Ankur From dilipkhanolkar at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 8 14:15:00 2009 From: dilipkhanolkar at fedoraproject.org (dilip khanolkar) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:45:00 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [Fedora- India] : Fedora India meet this sunday 1800 hrs? In-Reply-To: <4A5490AE.1080004@gmail.com> References: <1247053755.3352.393.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A5490AE.1080004@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9ca074ea0907080715u1bcd7ea5p1432c59db9a0b12f@mail.gmail.com> Include me too On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Gireesh Sreekantan wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/08/2009 05:19 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: >> Please reply to this thread if you intend to attend, so we have an idea >> of the number of people expected. > > I'll attend. > > > - -- > Gireesh > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAkpUkK4ACgkQji0bnveIaEZhmwCfWBDLETDs7nSkGIec580kmhIo > cXUAnRoScV0MzdcMRZR2usiuIZo5tZpn > =6PkG > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 8 15:35:26 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:05:26 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] dekstop-file-utils In-Reply-To: <1247062408.3352.407.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1247062408.3352.407.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4A54BCBE.7000207@fedoraproject.org> On 07/08/2009 07:43 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > Can somebody please tell me what update-desktop-database is responsible > for? As much in detail as possible please? More info on the other two > apps (desktop-file-validate/install) would also be great. update-desktop-database maps the MIME type to the particular desktop file (ie) associates a particular type of file to a specific application which is used by the desktop environment. validate checks the syntax and install puts them under /usr/share/applications in a way that the desktop environment can read it to build its application menu. Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 8 15:43:07 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:13:07 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [Fedora- India] : Fedora India meet this sunday 1800 hrs? In-Reply-To: <1247053755.3352.393.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1247053755.3352.393.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4A54BE8B.5000503@fedoraproject.org> On 07/08/2009 05:19 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > hi, > > Fedora Ambassadors : India > > Can everyone please save some time and meet at #fedora-india at Freenode > this *Sunday, 12th July at 1800 IST*? I should be able to. Rahul From salvadesswaran at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 16:07:00 2009 From: salvadesswaran at gmail.com (Salvadesswaran P.S.) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:37:00 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [Fedora- India] : Fedora India meet this sunday 1800 hrs? Message-ID: <47d9fe5c0907080907r423a6c96pfcb8c2e5f296e9b5@mail.gmail.com> > hi, > > Fedora Ambassadors : India > > Can everyone please save some time and meet at #fedora-india at Freenode > this *Sunday, 12th July at 1800 IST*? I must be able to, but not sure since I've got a conference that ends on sunday. I'll try to make it soon. Salvadesswaran Srinivasan From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 16:14:29 2009 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:44:29 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fwd:[Ambassadors] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn In-Reply-To: <1247032686.0cc6928e741d75e7a92396317522069e@mail.in.com> References: <1193951748.790647.1246999739294.JavaMail.app@ech3-cdn05.prod> <1247032686.0cc6928e741d75e7a92396317522069e@mail.in.com> Message-ID: <3170f42f0907080914j13fac88arb682742d0f9719e4@mail.gmail.com> > With Love > B.A p Raman Yes, we all love you. -- One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an imaginary part. -- Andrew Koenig From jainbasil at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 8 17:30:31 2009 From: jainbasil at fedoraproject.org (Jain Basil Aliyas) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 23:00:31 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Awesome Window Manager Message-ID: <779f754c0907081030v6a735158i240a1bc073b1b057@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I was using Awesome Window Manager ( http://awesome.naquadah.org/ ) in Ubuntu 8.10 and I came to know that it is not available in Fedora Distribution. Is that because Awesome is not added to the official repositories of Fedora? The download link in awesome official website ( http://awesome.naquadah.org/download/ ) also says there are no binaries available for Fedora. I think it'd be nice to have awesome window manager also in our official repo. What do you feel? Regards Jain Basil Aliyas -- Student, Department of Computer Science & Engineering Govt. Engineering College, Thrissur. Kerala, India http://jainbasil.wordpress.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 17:35:07 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:05:07 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Awesome Window Manager In-Reply-To: <779f754c0907081030v6a735158i240a1bc073b1b057@mail.gmail.com> References: <779f754c0907081030v6a735158i240a1bc073b1b057@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1247074507.3352.410.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 23:00 +0530, Jain Basil Aliyas wrote: > Hi, > > I was using Awesome Window Manager ( http://awesome.naquadah.org/ ) in > Ubuntu 8.10 and I came to know that it is not available in Fedora > Distribution. Is that because Awesome is not added to the official > repositories of Fedora? > > The download link in awesome official website > ( http://awesome.naquadah.org/download/ ) also says there are no > binaries available for Fedora. I think it'd be nice to have awesome > window manager also in our official repo. What do you feel? > > Regards > Jain Basil Aliyas > > -- > Student, > Department of Computer Science & Engineering > Govt. Engineering College, Thrissur. > Kerala, India > > http://jainbasil.wordpress.com Please add it here.. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_maintainers_wishlist -- regards, Ankur From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 8 17:36:47 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:06:47 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Awesome Window Manager In-Reply-To: <1247074507.3352.410.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <779f754c0907081030v6a735158i240a1bc073b1b057@mail.gmail.com> <1247074507.3352.410.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4A54D92F.2000409@fedoraproject.org> On 07/08/2009 11:05 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 23:00 +0530, Jain Basil Aliyas wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I was using Awesome Window Manager ( http://awesome.naquadah.org/ ) in >> Ubuntu 8.10 and I came to know that it is not available in Fedora >> Distribution. Is that because Awesome is not added to the official >> repositories of Fedora? Correct. Once it goes through the review process, it will be available in the repo. If you want a temporary build for a particular version of Fedora, let me know and I can build it for you. > Please add it here.. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_maintainers_wishlist Nah. It is already under review at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=452427 Quick way to check is to search for "packagename fedora package review" Rahul From jainbasil at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 8 17:42:18 2009 From: jainbasil at fedoraproject.org (Jain Basil Aliyas) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 23:12:18 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Awesome Window Manager In-Reply-To: <4A54D92F.2000409@fedoraproject.org> References: <779f754c0907081030v6a735158i240a1bc073b1b057@mail.gmail.com> <1247074507.3352.410.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A54D92F.2000409@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <779f754c0907081042v832fecu84d5b1ad9cb1318d@mail.gmail.com> Hi, On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 07/08/2009 11:05 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 23:00 +0530, Jain Basil Aliyas wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I was using Awesome Window Manager ( http://awesome.naquadah.org/ ) in > >> Ubuntu 8.10 and I came to know that it is not available in Fedora > >> Distribution. Is that because Awesome is not added to the official > >> repositories of Fedora? > > Correct. Once it goes through the review process, it will be available > in the repo. If you want a temporary build for a particular version of > Fedora, let me know and I can build it for you. I'd like to get a temporary build for Fedora 11, x86_64 > > > > Please add it here.. > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_maintainers_wishlist > > Nah. It is already under review at > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=452427 > > Quick way to check is to search for "packagename fedora package review" > > Rahul > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > Regards Jain Basil Aliyas -- Student, Department of Computer Science & Engineering Govt. Engineering College, Thrissur. Kerala, India http://jainbasil.wordpress.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 17:45:39 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:15:39 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Awesome Window Manager In-Reply-To: <4A54D92F.2000409@fedoraproject.org> References: <779f754c0907081030v6a735158i240a1bc073b1b057@mail.gmail.com> <1247074507.3352.410.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A54D92F.2000409@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1247075139.3352.411.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 23:06 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 07/08/2009 11:05 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 23:00 +0530, Jain Basil Aliyas wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I was using Awesome Window Manager ( http://awesome.naquadah.org/ ) in > >> Ubuntu 8.10 and I came to know that it is not available in Fedora > >> Distribution. Is that because Awesome is not added to the official > >> repositories of Fedora? > > Correct. Once it goes through the review process, it will be available > in the repo. If you want a temporary build for a particular version of > Fedora, let me know and I can build it for you. > > > Please add it here.. > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_maintainers_wishlist > > Nah. It is already under review at > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=452427 > > Quick way to check is to search for "packagename fedora package review" > > Rahul > oh..looks like i forgot to add the "if not already under review" clause.. -- regards, Ankur From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 8 18:29:43 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:59:43 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Awesome Window Manager In-Reply-To: <779f754c0907081042v832fecu84d5b1ad9cb1318d@mail.gmail.com> References: <779f754c0907081030v6a735158i240a1bc073b1b057@mail.gmail.com> <1247074507.3352.410.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A54D92F.2000409@fedoraproject.org> <779f754c0907081042v832fecu84d5b1ad9cb1318d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A54E597.7070809@fedoraproject.org> On 07/08/2009 11:12 PM, Jain Basil Aliyas wrote: > > > I'd like to get a temporary build for Fedora 11, x86_64 This is a mess. Details at http://lists.cairographics.org/archives/cairo/2008-December/016008.html I have built some experimental packages at http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/packages/experimental/ wget them into a separate folder. do a yum localinstall --nogpgcheck *.rpm I have no done zero QA on it and since it replaces the system cairo, if it breaks you get to keep both pieces. If you are ok with that, feel free to install it and if it does work, let me know. Rahul From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 23:37:41 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 05:07:41 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Anyone interested in Fedora-Medical (suggest better name) spin? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <35586fc00907081637u3ce22eep29a9cf8a35a101f6@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:10 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: Thanks for bringing this up. I love it when good ideas pop up. > I was just thinking, we seriously lack apps for tapping this > particular section, > > that is the health care and medical community. > Time to roll out a spin? It is going to be a good selling point and > good work if done. There are two ways to go about it - a good way and, a not-so-good way. The latter means clubbing together all "like" software into a spin via a fairly trivial kickstart. So, what you get is a bunch of applications shoved into a spin without having a storyline. The former is sifting through the applications using a story and, choosing them so that they are effectively used from Day0. In short, what I suggest is getting someone with domain knowledge of this field involved as well. I think that was one of the reasons FEL became wildly successful. Having said all that, if you are cooking up a kickstart - I can volunteer to do QA :) -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From a.mani.cms at gmail.com Thu Jul 9 01:45:08 2009 From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 06:45:08 +0500 Subject: [fedora-india] Anyone interested in Fedora-Medical (suggest better name) spin? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <78323d480907081845ia2a9042v5fa700dbbe45f64e@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 5:40 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > Also have a look at this huge list ?;) > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_healthcare#Public_Health_and_Biosurveillance > Many of these need to be packaged. This includes all types of s/w. 'Fedora-Health Care' may be a good name. But what else can bioinformatics + psychometry + hospital management + GIS +.... be? It is necessary to make it reasonably complete in the statistics side (R and lots more), differential equation solvers (some advanced math s/w - those dealing with epidemics will need them), Data visualisation s/w is compulsory (Gobi, Weka, ...). But there is no reason to include SAGE. Things like tinyerp may be relevant for some. Best A. Mani -- A. Mani ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS http://amani.topcities.com http://www.logicamani.co.cc From a.mani.cms at gmail.com Thu Jul 9 02:01:12 2009 From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 07:01:12 +0500 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907072118y26c84de0m7368bae30cc93b92@mail.gmail.com> <1247029894.3352.216.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907072245p27375cefje6a93a675271d219@mail.gmail.com> <1247038391.3352.299.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907080056k3e9a72as42b79eab7f3f27b1@mail.gmail.com> <1247040276.3352.321.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907080132i4b7fa470xca50a9ab0c5e56c2@mail.gmail.com> <1247044926.3352.325.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <78323d480907081901t3fdc927aw262b5ccebfbd6862@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Siddharth Upmanyu wrote: > wanted to add to the points where we are talking about the ''real'' problems > of not being able to conduct a ''successful'' free-media program... the > biggest one stays : we are not organized... we have all the people (lot more > to start off) we have resources.. (Rahul and Sankarshan have mentioned far > to often) but we remain unorganized.. weekly meetings didnt worked (not as > expected).. mailing lists receive fragmented response (i'll also find a > hiding place for these :-) ) Can you post the detailed region-wise FM statistics? I can analyse that and write a short report Best A. Mani -- A. Mani ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS http://amani.topcities.com http://www.logicamani.co.cc From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Thu Jul 9 02:24:25 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 07:54:25 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Anyone interested in Fedora-Medical (suggest better name) spin? In-Reply-To: <35586fc00907081637u3ce22eep29a9cf8a35a101f6@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00907081637u3ce22eep29a9cf8a35a101f6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > There are two ways to go about it - a good way and, a not-so-good way. > The latter means clubbing together all "like" software into a spin via > a fairly trivial kickstart. Of course I am not taking this way. > The former > is sifting through the applications using a story and, choosing them > so that they are effectively used from Day0. In short, what I suggest > is getting someone with domain knowledge of this field involved as > well. I think that was one of the reasons FEL became wildly > successful. Sure, I am starting to exploit my contacts in that circle. :) If others have some contacts we can use those too. > Having said all that, if you are cooking up a kickstart - I can > volunteer to do QA :) Great!!! Thanks. I am not cooking a kickstart right now, but will do at a later stage. The first thing I will do is a extensive study and planning. Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From siddharth at techbugs.org Thu Jul 9 02:32:25 2009 From: siddharth at techbugs.org (Siddharth Upmanyu) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 08:02:25 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] Queries regarding the Free media project in India In-Reply-To: <78323d480907081901t3fdc927aw262b5ccebfbd6862@mail.gmail.com> References: <1246772397.3388.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1247029894.3352.216.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907072245p27375cefje6a93a675271d219@mail.gmail.com> <1247038391.3352.299.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907080056k3e9a72as42b79eab7f3f27b1@mail.gmail.com> <1247040276.3352.321.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907080132i4b7fa470xca50a9ab0c5e56c2@mail.gmail.com> <1247044926.3352.325.camel@localhost.localdomain> <78323d480907081901t3fdc927aw262b5ccebfbd6862@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Mani A wrote: > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Siddharth Upmanyu > wrote: > > wanted to add to the points where we are talking about the ''real'' > problems > > of not being able to conduct a ''successful'' free-media program... the > > biggest one stays : we are not organized... we have all the people (lot > more > > to start off) we have resources.. (Rahul and Sankarshan have mentioned > far > > to often) but we remain unorganized.. weekly meetings didnt worked (not > as > > expected).. mailing lists receive fragmented response (i'll also find a > > hiding place for these :-) ) > > > Can you post the detailed region-wise FM statistics? > > I can analyse that and write a short report > > Best > > A. Mani > > > -- > A. Mani > ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS > http://amani.topcities.com > http://www.logicamani.co.cc > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > I guess any one can extract the details city wise from the tickets , please contact Susmit he is the point of contact for the New FM process Regards Siddharth -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This is what I have in mind : - Update the community with everyone's activity in the past few months and to discuss problems - Future plans for events and such. - Feedback/suggestions The time as of now is 1800. Please feel free to post if it's not convenient to you. Please add more agendas to the meet (its really small for the time being :) ). Lastly, please attend :) Please reply to this thread if you intend to attend, so we have an idea of the number of people expected. -- regards, Ankur _______________________________________________ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india Yahoo! recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/in/internetexplorer/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sherry151 at gmail.com Thu Jul 9 06:49:20 2009 From: sherry151 at gmail.com (Rangeen Basu) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 12:19:20 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Anyone interested in Fedora-Medical (suggest better name) spin? In-Reply-To: References: <1247057249.3352.394.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:27 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Once a few more hands go up, I shall ask for help in the other lists. I would be glad to help. But maintaining a spin is a huge task and someone with sufficient free time and domain knowledge (as sankarshan said) should be in the lead. -- Regards Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury Fedora Ambassador sherry151 at gmail.com From sherry151 at gmail.com Thu Jul 9 06:59:39 2009 From: sherry151 at gmail.com (Rangeen Basu) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 12:29:39 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [Fedora- India] : Fedora India meet this sunday 1800 hrs? In-Reply-To: <1247053755.3352.393.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1247053755.3352.393.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > The purpose of the meet is to restart communications within the > community. This is what I have in mind : Thank you for taking the initiative. > - Update the community with everyone's activity in the past few months > and to discuss problems > - Future plans for events and such. > - Feedback/suggestions + freemedia > > The time as of now is 1800. Please feel free to post if it's not > convenient to you. 1800 ist is fine with me too. > Please add more agendas to the meet (its really small for the time > being :) ). > > Lastly, please attend :) > > Please reply to this thread if you intend to attend, so we have an idea > of the number of people expected. > > -- > regards, > > Ankur > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > -- Regards Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury Fedora Ambassador sherry151 at gmail.com From amitpundir at ymail.com Thu Jul 9 06:59:59 2009 From: amitpundir at ymail.com (Amit Pundir) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 12:29:59 +0530 (IST) Subject: [fedora-india] [Fedora- India] : Fedora India meet this sunday 1800 hrs? In-Reply-To: <9ca074ea0907080715u1bcd7ea5p1432c59db9a0b12f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1247053755.3352.393.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A5490AE.1080004@gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907080715u1bcd7ea5p1432c59db9a0b12f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <430631.52764.qm@web95109.mail.in2.yahoo.com> I am not sure about my presence, will try my best ... how do u feel about connecting at sunday night ? Amit Pundir +919481778789 http://thebuggz.blogspot.com/ ________________________________ From: dilip khanolkar To: fedora-india at redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, 8 July, 2009 7:45:00 PM Subject: Re: [fedora-india] [Fedora- India] : Fedora India meet this sunday 1800 hrs? Include me too On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Gireesh Sreekantan wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/08/2009 05:19 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: >> Please reply to this thread if you intend to attend, so we have an idea >> of the number of people expected. > > I'll attend. > > > - -- > Gireesh > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAkpUkK4ACgkQji0bnveIaEZhmwCfWBDLETDs7nSkGIec580kmhIo > cXUAnRoScV0MzdcMRZR2usiuIZo5tZpn > =6PkG > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > _______________________________________________ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Yahoo! 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In-Reply-To: <430631.52764.qm@web95109.mail.in2.yahoo.com> References: <1247053755.3352.393.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A5490AE.1080004@gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907080715u1bcd7ea5p1432c59db9a0b12f@mail.gmail.com> <430631.52764.qm@web95109.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1247124726.3343.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 12:29 +0530, Amit Pundir wrote: > I am not sure about my presence, will try my best ... > how do u feel about connecting at sunday night ? > > Amit Pundir hi, In that case, please suggest a time that is convenient to you? -- regards, Ankur From amitpundir at ymail.com Thu Jul 9 07:40:45 2009 From: amitpundir at ymail.com (Amit Pundir) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:10:45 +0530 (IST) Subject: [fedora-india] [Fedora- India] : Fedora India meet this sunday 1800 hrs? In-Reply-To: <1247124726.3343.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1247053755.3352.393.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A5490AE.1080004@gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907080715u1bcd7ea5p1432c59db9a0b12f@mail.gmail.com> <430631.52764.qm@web95109.mail.in2.yahoo.com> <1247124726.3343.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <58593.40256.qm@web95108.mail.in2.yahoo.com> On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 12:29 +0530, Amit Pundir wrote: > I am not sure about my presence, will try my best ... > how do u feel about connecting at sunday night ? > > Amit Pundir >>hi, >>In that case, please suggest a time that is convenient to you? >> I am not saying to change timings just because of me .. I feel all of us mostly stay online after dinner sometime after 2100. so we can have meetings at that time Amit Pundir >>-- >>regards, >>Ankur _______________________________________________ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india Yahoo! recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/in/internetexplorer/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sankarshan at fedoraproject.org Thu Jul 9 11:16:47 2009 From: sankarshan at fedoraproject.org (sankarshan) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 11:16:47 +0000 Subject: [fedora-india] A Fedora 'booklet' : should we start scribbling around ? Message-ID: <7e3d3af30907090416l77e322fcy80a5679e00a5d107@mail.gmail.com> I have often been asked about where folks can have a "Fedora Booklet". I think it is a good thing to have one, if kept small and concise, we could possibly have it ready-to-translate too. Should we look into having a show of hands at creating one such booklet/handbook ? I daresay that we need to talk this through with Marketing and, Design team as well. /sankarshan -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw From debayanin at gmail.com Thu Jul 9 11:19:44 2009 From: debayanin at gmail.com (Debayan Banerjee) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 16:49:44 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] A Fedora 'booklet' : should we start scribbling around ? In-Reply-To: <7e3d3af30907090416l77e322fcy80a5679e00a5d107@mail.gmail.com> References: <7e3d3af30907090416l77e322fcy80a5679e00a5d107@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2009/7/9 sankarshan : > I have often been asked about where folks can have a "Fedora Booklet". Its a very good idea. The KDE booklet was a big hit, was it not? -- Regards, Debayan Banerjee Support Free Software http://deeproot.in From sgireeshmail at gmail.com Thu Jul 9 11:36:19 2009 From: sgireeshmail at gmail.com (Gireesh Sreekantan) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:06:19 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] A Fedora 'booklet' : should we start scribbling around ? In-Reply-To: <7e3d3af30907090416l77e322fcy80a5679e00a5d107@mail.gmail.com> References: <7e3d3af30907090416l77e322fcy80a5679e00a5d107@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A55D633.409@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/09/2009 04:46 PM, sankarshan wrote: > I have often been asked about where folks can have a "Fedora Booklet". > I think it is a good thing to have one, if kept small and concise, we > could possibly have it ready-to-translate too. Should we look into > having a show of hands at creating one such booklet/handbook ? I > daresay that we need to talk this through with Marketing and, Design > team as well. > Who would be the target audience? Any links to other existing booklets? I remember getting a 4 page booklet for Fedora 6 at a LUG meet. (wow, it was so long ago). It had some basic/essential fedora commands. - -- Gireesh Sreekantan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkpV1jMACgkQji0bnveIaEZwVQCfVAXdT3+N6VjYzLAV/OhRwnyT xhcAn0r96ydEKrp6mrxC2X8gsgrpXBlS =bF2y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From aanjhan at gmail.com Thu Jul 9 11:39:42 2009 From: aanjhan at gmail.com (Aanjhan R) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:39:42 +0200 Subject: [fedora-india] A Fedora 'booklet' : should we start scribbling around ? In-Reply-To: References: <7e3d3af30907090416l77e322fcy80a5679e00a5d107@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Debayan Banerjee wrote: > 2009/7/9 sankarshan : >> I have often been asked about where folks can have a "Fedora Booklet". > > Its a very good idea. The KDE booklet was a big hit, was it not? Ofcourse. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tuxmaniac/tags/kdehandbook/ Even at FOSDEM :) From sankarshan at fedoraproject.org Thu Jul 9 12:25:32 2009 From: sankarshan at fedoraproject.org (sankarshan) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 17:55:32 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Do we have anyone in DEL who can receive a consignment of F11 DVD ? Message-ID: <35586fc00907090525m3657cb78p5c9229d19a50b5c1@mail.gmail.com> aka. ping Gora / Kishore :) How do we get the iLUGD to receive a consignment ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From sankarshan at fedoraproject.org Thu Jul 9 12:30:39 2009 From: sankarshan at fedoraproject.org (sankarshan) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 12:30:39 +0000 Subject: [fedora-india] Fwd: [PLUG] Hands on session on Scientific computing with Python on 11th July In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7e3d3af30907090530x1d17d8c2qdcec9d55d73d6c00@mail.gmail.com> For folks in Pune and, not on PLUG list /sankarshan ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Manjusha Joshi Date: Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 12:27 PM Subject: [PLUG] Hands on session on Scientific computing with Python on 11th July To: Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List Hands on session on Scientific Computing with Python Speaker: ? ? Ramakrishna Reddy level: beginners Time: 3-5 pm Date: 11 th July, 09 Saturday No fees. Venue: Bhaskaracharya Pratishthana (www.bprim.org) ? ? ? ? ? 56/14, Erandavane, Damle Path, ? ? ? ? ? Off Law College Road, ? ? ? ? ? Pune - 411 004, India. Open to all. Please register your self by sending mail to bhaskara_p at vsnl.com Limited number of computers are available for hands on.first come first serve basis. Python 2.6 will be used. Thanks, -- Manjusha Joshi _______________________________________ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Thu Jul 9 15:10:04 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 20:40:04 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] A Fedora 'booklet' : should we start scribbling around ? In-Reply-To: <4A55D633.409@gmail.com> References: <7e3d3af30907090416l77e322fcy80a5679e00a5d107@mail.gmail.com> <4A55D633.409@gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00907090810i24c6d062xc92163e38fa95ce@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Gireesh Sreekantan wrote: > Who would be the target audience? Any links to other existing booklets? Anyone who would be interested in knowing about The Fedora Project, would like to obtain an overview of what the project is about and, in general find it handy to have a book in hand to refer to. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From manishgurnani_is at yahoo.com Fri Jul 10 04:53:41 2009 From: manishgurnani_is at yahoo.com (Manish Gurnani) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 21:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [fedora-india] Do we have anyone in DEL who can receive a consignment of F11 DVD ? In-Reply-To: <35586fc00907090525m3657cb78p5c9229d19a50b5c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00907090525m3657cb78p5c9229d19a50b5c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <255578.52958.qm@web57101.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I can. Live in Mayur Vihar ph-1. Let me know whom should I forward the address to. regards, Manish ________________________________ From: sankarshan To: The Fedora Project Community in India Sent: Thursday, 9 July 2009 5:25:32 Subject: [fedora-india] Do we have anyone in DEL who can receive a consignment of F11 DVD ? aka. ping Gora / Kishore :) How do we get the iLUGD to receive a consignment ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work _______________________________________________ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india Get your preferred Email name! 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Off list to sundaram at fedoraproject dot org and, please do ensure that you have a reasonably updated User: page on the wiki -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From kishore at pobox.com Fri Jul 10 08:01:18 2009 From: kishore at pobox.com (Kishore Bhargava) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:31:18 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Do we have anyone in DEL who can receive a consignment of F11 DVD ? In-Reply-To: <35586fc00907090525m3657cb78p5c9229d19a50b5c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00907090525m3657cb78p5c9229d19a50b5c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A56F54E.2080009@pobox.com> sankarshan wrote: > aka. ping Gora / Kishore :) How do we get the iLUGD to receive a consignment ? > Send it to my home address, we can have them spread out to various parts of Delhi/NCR. Cheers...Kishore -- From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 10:07:22 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:37:22 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Do we have anyone in DEL who can receive a consignment of F11 DVD ? In-Reply-To: <4A56F54E.2080009@pobox.com> References: <35586fc00907090525m3657cb78p5c9229d19a50b5c1@mail.gmail.com> <4A56F54E.2080009@pobox.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00907100307m4053a91al854f9f8781616b36@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Kishore Bhargava wrote: > Send it to my home address, we can have them spread out to various parts of > Delhi/NCR. Copy that. Will do the needful. Thank you :) -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From dilipkhanolkar at fedoraproject.org Sat Jul 11 07:09:25 2009 From: dilipkhanolkar at fedoraproject.org (dilip khanolkar) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:39:25 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] F11 DVD for 32 bit Message-ID: <9ca074ea0907110009h6a08222fw5ff1e7412d5ee5bc@mail.gmail.com> Hi Arvind, Thanks for your co-operation. I got 1 dvd but it would be much better if i could get another 3 dvds. 1 would be for ashwin another ambassador living in mumbai. And 2 others would be of much help for getting the medias replicated on at high speeds. And ya about the launch party we are planning it up on 1st august. So i surely need some stickers before it. So that we can successfully replicate things. Regards, Dilip Khanolkar, +919769107738. On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Arvind Satpal Sneh Sharma wrote: > Hi Dilip, > > As per our telecon, you plan to visit Red Hat on thursday evening. Our > address is: > > Red Hat India > B-304, Delphi, > Hiranandani, > Powai, > Mumbai 400076 > > regards > Arvind > > On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 22:14 +0530, dilip khanolkar wrote: >> Thanks sankarshan. Badly waiting for my set of media for replications. >> I will deliver a media to ashwin. We are planning to meet in some >> days. He stays a lot near me. >> >> Regards, >> Dilip Khanolkar, >> +919769107738 >> >> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:02 PM, susmit >> shannigrahi wrote: >> > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:59 PM, sankarshan wrote: >> >> I handed over a number of media to Arvind (in cc:) today who is based >> >> out of BOM. Fedora Ambassadors and others out of BOM might like to get >> >> in touch with him. >> > >> > Incidentally, you forgot to cc. ;) >> > Thanks. >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Regards, >> > Susmit. >> > >> > ============================================= >> > ssh >> > 0x86DD170A >> > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit >> > ============================================= >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Fedora-india mailing list >> > Fedora-india at redhat.com >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-india mailing list >> Fedora-india at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > -- From arsharma at redhat.com Sat Jul 11 15:00:47 2009 From: arsharma at redhat.com (Arvind Satpal Sneh Sharma) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:30:47 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Re: F11 DVD for 32 bit In-Reply-To: <9ca074ea0907110009h6a08222fw5ff1e7412d5ee5bc@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ca074ea0907110009h6a08222fw5ff1e7412d5ee5bc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1247324447.15502.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Dear Dilip, You may collect the additional DVDs from the same address. The stickers will be available wednesday onwards. Arvind On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 12:39 +0530, dilip khanolkar wrote: > Hi Arvind, > > Thanks for your co-operation. I got 1 dvd but it would be much better > if i could get another 3 dvds. 1 would be for ashwin another > ambassador living in mumbai. And 2 others would be of much help for > getting the medias replicated on at high speeds. And ya about the > launch party we are planning it up on 1st august. So i surely need > some stickers before it. So that we can successfully replicate things. > > Regards, > Dilip Khanolkar, > +919769107738. > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Arvind Satpal Sneh > Sharma wrote: > > Hi Dilip, > > > > As per our telecon, you plan to visit Red Hat on thursday evening. Our > > address is: > > > > Red Hat India > > B-304, Delphi, > > Hiranandani, > > Powai, > > Mumbai 400076 > > > > regards > > Arvind > > > > On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 22:14 +0530, dilip khanolkar wrote: > >> Thanks sankarshan. Badly waiting for my set of media for replications. > >> I will deliver a media to ashwin. We are planning to meet in some > >> days. He stays a lot near me. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Dilip Khanolkar, > >> +919769107738 > >> > >> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:02 PM, susmit > >> shannigrahi wrote: > >> > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:59 PM, sankarshan wrote: > >> >> I handed over a number of media to Arvind (in cc:) today who is based > >> >> out of BOM. Fedora Ambassadors and others out of BOM might like to get > >> >> in touch with him. > >> > > >> > Incidentally, you forgot to cc. ;) > >> > Thanks. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Regards, > >> > Susmit. > >> > > >> > ============================================= > >> > ssh > >> > 0x86DD170A > >> > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit > >> > ============================================= > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Fedora-india mailing list > >> > Fedora-india at redhat.com > >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Fedora-india mailing list > >> Fedora-india at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-india mailing list > > Fedora-india at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > > > > > > -- From sankarshan at fedoraproject.org Sun Jul 12 05:27:13 2009 From: sankarshan at fedoraproject.org (sankarshan) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 05:27:13 +0000 Subject: [fedora-india] Fwd: [nrcfossconsult 193] w-meter released In-Reply-To: <200907120738.13827.lawgon@thenilgiris.com> References: <200907120738.13827.lawgon@thenilgiris.com> Message-ID: <7e3d3af30907112227k4537cfa0i42df21d6caf57102@mail.gmail.com> Folks might like to keep an eye on this for a possible package ~sankarshan ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Kenneth Gonsalves Date: Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 2:08 AM Subject: [nrcfossconsult 193] w-meter released To: ilug-bengaluru at googlegroups.com, nrcfossconsult at googlegroups.com hi, AU-KBC has released w-meter, an open source wireless tool: http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/w-meter/ -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw From sankarshan at fedoraproject.org Sun Jul 12 05:32:50 2009 From: sankarshan at fedoraproject.org (sankarshan) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:02:50 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] A shout-out to all the "new" Ambassadors from India Message-ID: <35586fc00907112232n7feb5501qcf44a72ff349a359@mail.gmail.com> Hi, If you have been recently sponsored into the Fedora Ambassador group, it would be good to know what you have been doing to get to speed with the Ambassador role, whether you have had the chance to install and check out Fedora 11, have been visible in the nearest UserGroups and so on. ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From sherry151 at gmail.com Sun Jul 12 14:21:16 2009 From: sherry151 at gmail.com (Rangeen Basu) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:51:16 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [Fedora- India] : Fedora India meet this sunday 1800 hrs? In-Reply-To: <58593.40256.qm@web95108.mail.in2.yahoo.com> References: <1247053755.3352.393.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A5490AE.1080004@gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907080715u1bcd7ea5p1432c59db9a0b12f@mail.gmail.com> <430631.52764.qm@web95109.mail.in2.yahoo.com> <1247124726.3343.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <58593.40256.qm@web95108.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Here [1] is the log of today's meeting. Ankur Sinha will be posting the conclusions soon. [1] http://sherry151.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-India-log-20090712.html -- Regards Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury Fedora Ambassador sherry151 at gmail.com From kkmageshcse at gmail.com Sun Jul 12 15:20:26 2009 From: kkmageshcse at gmail.com (magesh) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:50:26 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] battery applet disappears when resuming after suspend/hibernation Message-ID: iam using fedora 11 i have seen this issue with both kde & gnome in gnome, the battery applet disappears when resuming after hibernation/suspend in kde, the battery applet shows a red color cross, showing "no battery present" whenever i resume after a suspend/hibernate i also googled but didnt get a solution so i want to know if anyone in this list also have seen the same problem iam using fedora11 in my hp laptop(dv4-1257 TX) -- magesh Life is "just tryin out things to see if they work" http://magesh.geexhq.com/ http://twitter.com/mageshcse -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sun Jul 12 16:34:47 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:04:47 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [Fedora- India] : Fedora India meet this sunday 1800 hrs? In-Reply-To: References: <1247053755.3352.393.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A5490AE.1080004@gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907080715u1bcd7ea5p1432c59db9a0b12f@mail.gmail.com> <430631.52764.qm@web95109.mail.in2.yahoo.com> <1247124726.3343.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <58593.40256.qm@web95108.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Rangeen Basu wrote: > Hi > > Here [1] is the log of today's meeting. Ankur Sinha will be posting > the conclusions soon. > > [1] http://sherry151.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-India-log-20090712.html nah, I am not on vacation. :) I was a bit busy with a few back end tasks of fedora-infra and my personal tasks. One of them, the map of ambassadors, will go public today. Also, for freemedia, one can not charge money. He can ask the person if he is ok with it and do it separately. But freemedia needs more extensive thinking. Also, I see you had a lot of people from different LUGs. That is a very good sign. Good work. Thanks. :) -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Jul 12 17:41:07 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:11:07 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] battery applet disappears when resuming after suspend/hibernation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A5A2033.2020101@fedoraproject.org> On 07/12/2009 08:50 PM, magesh wrote: > iam using fedora 11 > i have seen this issue with both kde & gnome > in gnome, the battery applet disappears when resuming after > hibernation/suspend > in kde, the battery applet shows a red color cross, showing "no battery > present" whenever i resume after a suspend/hibernate > i also googled but didnt get a solution > so i want to know if anyone in this list also have seen the same problem > > iam using fedora11 in my hp laptop(dv4-1257 TX) I haven't experienced or heard of this one. Probably hardware specific. Post a bug report, please. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report Rahul From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sun Jul 12 18:47:59 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:17:59 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Heads up please: Ambassadors map is now online. Message-ID: Hi, https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2009-July/msg00173.html Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From sherry151 at gmail.com Sun Jul 12 19:18:23 2009 From: sherry151 at gmail.com (Rangeen Basu) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:48:23 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [Fedora- India] : Fedora India meet this sunday 1800 hrs? In-Reply-To: References: <1247053755.3352.393.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A5490AE.1080004@gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907080715u1bcd7ea5p1432c59db9a0b12f@mail.gmail.com> <430631.52764.qm@web95109.mail.in2.yahoo.com> <1247124726.3343.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <58593.40256.qm@web95108.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 10:04 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > Also, for freemedia, one can not charge money. > He can ask the person if he is ok with it and do it separately. > But freemedia needs more extensive thinking. We were a little confused about this too. But the option that PLUG uses (request media) is going to gather some money which can be used for free media just as Ankur mentioned. Also , what if we give the option to the freemedia requesters whether it is possible to pay the postage or whether it is possible to collect it personally. If we get a response, we can act accordingly. We already do ask people if it is possible fro them to collect personally and I have served such requests too. But I guess we are not allowed to talk about money on the freemedia platform, are we? Anyways, the PLUG [1] style system will be setup for the few LUGs which agreed upon it namely Manipal LUG, NIT Dgp LUG and NIT Agartala. We will try to bring in other LUGs as well. Also looking for freemedia sponsors is not a bad thing I guess. [1] http://plug.org.in/software.php -- Regards Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury Fedora Ambassador sherry151 at gmail.com From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 00:07:52 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:37:52 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [Fedora- India] : Fedora India meet this sunday 1800 hrs? In-Reply-To: References: <1247053755.3352.393.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A5490AE.1080004@gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907080715u1bcd7ea5p1432c59db9a0b12f@mail.gmail.com> <430631.52764.qm@web95109.mail.in2.yahoo.com> <1247124726.3343.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <58593.40256.qm@web95108.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00907121707x43c1a6dfo8a044881ec4038c7@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 10:04 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Also, for freemedia, one can not charge money. > He can ask the person if he is ok with it and do it separately. > But freemedia needs more extensive thinking. To elaborate on this, the Freemedia program (as it is now) is completely dependent on the volunteering capacities of those who have raised their hands for it. Based on the volume of requests and, the number of volunteers, it becomes fairly hard sooner or later to meet all the requests. What happens then is that we fail our potential users - we provide them a way to request a media and yet, we do not actually end up sending them one. The alternative model (as PLUG is an example) is a not-free-of-cost media program. Here, anyone could put up their names as a provider of media _with_cost_attached_. Whether this cost includes only media charges plus postage or, whether it also includes a small margin is left to the volunteer. This ensures that we have two things going into this - [1] there is accountability built-in (if someone charges for goods, they'd need to deliver [2] the requests which did not receive a media now have an option of getting the media via payment. I took the example of PLUG (PuneLUG) because they seem to be servicing such requests successfully and, this may just be a way for LUGs (as well as individuals) to have a way to outreach to a larger community without having to pay out of their own pocket. I am more interested to ensure that we are in a position to provide media than spend time trying to figure out how best to revive Freemedia. ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 04:19:53 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:49:53 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] : Metting follow up for Sun Jul 12 1800 IST Message-ID: <1247458793.3346.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> hi, The logs are here: http://sherry151.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-India-log-20090712.html Than you Rangeen. :) The meeting began slowly (as the logs will show, there were only a few of us present). However, as it progressed, more folks joined in. We had the following as our main agendas. - Decide a better meeting time - Suggestions regarding better Fedora media distribution - Future events I'll discuss them one by one. - Deciding of a better timing for meetings: As observed and stated in the meeting, Fridays + weekends are not viable days to hold a weekly meet. Folks prefer dining out etc (relaxing) on weekends and Friday is a party night ;). Rangeen proposed Wednesday 1800/1900 IST as a weekly/fortnightly meeting slot. The attendees of the meeting are okay with this. I request a vote on this. - Future events : We discussed some of the future planned events. aveek and dipanjan informed us about their respective events. (Please read the log).You can find more info here[1][2]. - Suggestions regarding better Fedora media distribution: There was a brief discussion on how we could better service the requests for media that we receive monthly. Here's _one_ suggestion: As the list can see, fedora ambassadors are present all over India (many of us are part of our local LUGs). The idea is, for as many ambassadors as viable, to create web pages for requests on the lines of the PLUG's form. Ambassadors can choose to charge a marginal service fee. Ambassadors can also choose what this fee will be used for. One good use is to collect all the money and use it to service free media requests. ( a common account ?) Another feature of this plan is that Ambassadors can collect requests for a month and service them in the next. This way, they have a clear idea on how many medias are to be produced (to minimize wastage in the beginning). As the system catches wind, we'll have figures to indicate numbers for mass production of media. Some of us cannot patch this plan to our LUGs (due to constraints from college etc.). We can set this plan up personally. That was more or less the discussion that took place. We urge more folks to find time to attend meetings _regularly_ . Is there a resource on the web that contains info on how to go about an IRC meet? I mean things like <"!" and wait your turn> and ? It would be helpful for new folks. Vote for timing change to wednesday 1800 IST : +1 1900 IST : +1 [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents#India.2C_Asia.2C_and_Australia_.28India.2FAPJ.29 [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NITA_FAD_2009 Rangeen and other folks, please add to the follow up if you feel I've missed something. -- regards, Ankur From kkmageshcse at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 05:01:13 2009 From: kkmageshcse at gmail.com (magesh) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:31:13 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] battery applet disappears when resuming after suspend/hibernation In-Reply-To: <4A5A2033.2020101@fedoraproject.org> References: <4A5A2033.2020101@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: > I haven't experienced or heard of this one. Probably hardware specific. > Post a bug report, please. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report > > Rahul > Thankyou rahul for you reply i will post a bug report, for that -- magesh Life is "just tryin out things to see if they work" http://magesh.geexhq.com/ http://twitter.com/mageshcse -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In addition I maintain a local repository of the "Everything", updates, rpmfusion-free and non-free for internal use. Please feel free to drop in and pick up copies. Andrew Lynn Hall #8 School of Information Technology Jawaharlal Nehru University New Delhi 110067 -- Freed.in : Freedom in technology and software _______________________________________________ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd at lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd at lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From sherry151 at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 07:42:24 2009 From: sherry151 at gmail.com (Rangeen Basu) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:12:24 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [Fedora- India] : Fedora India meet this sunday 1800 hrs? In-Reply-To: <35586fc00907121707x43c1a6dfo8a044881ec4038c7@mail.gmail.com> References: <1247053755.3352.393.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A5490AE.1080004@gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907080715u1bcd7ea5p1432c59db9a0b12f@mail.gmail.com> <430631.52764.qm@web95109.mail.in2.yahoo.com> <1247124726.3343.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <58593.40256.qm@web95108.mail.in2.yahoo.com> <35586fc00907121707x43c1a6dfo8a044881ec4038c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:37 AM, sankarshan wrote: > > I am more interested to ensure that we are in a position to provide > media than spend time trying to figure out how best to revive > Freemedia. > +1 -- Regards Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury Fedora Ambassador sherry151 at gmail.com From sherry151 at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 07:45:27 2009 From: sherry151 at gmail.com (Rangeen Basu) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:15:27 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] : Metting follow up for Sun Jul 12 1800 IST In-Reply-To: <1247458793.3346.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1247458793.3346.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > Vote for timing change to wednesday 1800 IST : +1 > 1900 IST : +1 1800 IST : +1 1900 IST : +1 -- Regards Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury Fedora Ambassador sherry151 at gmail.com From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Jul 13 09:22:03 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:52:03 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] : Metting follow up for Sun Jul 12 1800 IST In-Reply-To: <1247458793.3346.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1247458793.3346.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4A5AFCBB.5050107@fedoraproject.org> On 07/13/2009 09:49 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NITA_FAD_2009 The agenda seems a bit confused. FAD = Fedora Activity Day. A day of people interested in Fedora to contribute to it in various forms. Does it make sense to invite speakers from Apple and Oracle? It is not clear whether they are talking about something related. Does it make sense to distribute media from various distributions? There is a difference between a general Linux tech conference and a FAD. Rahul From shakthimaan at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 09:41:40 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:11:40 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] : Metting follow up for Sun Jul 12 1800 IST In-Reply-To: <4A5AFCBB.5050107@fedoraproject.org> References: <1247458793.3346.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A5AFCBB.5050107@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Hi, --- On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: | The agenda seems a bit confused. \-- The agenda has not been finalized. From my end, I am addressing Fedora relevant topics. I am yet to hear from the organizers on what others' they have planned. If there is something else in the list, then, yes, it is not a FAD. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From amitpundir at ymail.com Mon Jul 13 14:48:14 2009 From: amitpundir at ymail.com (Amit Pundir) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:18:14 +0530 (IST) Subject: [Fedora-India] : Metting follow up for Sun Jul 12 1800 IST In-Reply-To: References: <1247458793.3346.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <327821.98566.qm@web95102.mail.in2.yahoo.com> 1800 IST : +1 1900 IST : +1 Amit Pundir +919481778789 mca at nitc Registered Linux User #471421 Fedora-India ambassador http://thebuggz.blogspot.com/ ________________________________ From: Rangeen Basu To: fedora-india at redhat.com Sent: Monday, 13 July, 2009 1:15:27 PM Subject: Re: [Fedora-India] : Metting follow up for Sun Jul 12 1800 IST On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > Vote for timing change to wednesday 1800 IST : +1 > 1900 IST : +1 1800 IST : +1 1900 IST : +1 -- Regards Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury Fedora Ambassador sherry151 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india Love Cricket? 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The idea is, for as many ambassadors > as viable, to create web pages for requests on the lines of the PLUG's > form. > > Ambassadors can choose to charge a marginal service fee. > marginal or nominal? cost of Fedora DVD = media price + Rs 20.00 Template? > Is there a resource on the web that contains info on how to go about an > IRC meet? I mean things like <"!" and wait your turn> and EOF> ? It would be helpful for new folks. > Consider this http://www.ilug-cal.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=33&Itemid=36 > Vote for timing change to wednesday 1800 IST : +1 > 1900 IST : +1 19:00+1 = 20:00 Best A. Mani -- A. Mani ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS http://amani.topcities.com http://www.logicamani.co.cc From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 00:59:33 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:29:33 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] : Metting follow up for Sun Jul 12 1800 IST In-Reply-To: <78323d480907131444l32b0653cxb8f9721a5d8c5869@mail.gmail.com> References: <1247458793.3346.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> <78323d480907131444l32b0653cxb8f9721a5d8c5869@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > >> Is there a resource on the web that contains info on how to go about an >> IRC meet? I mean things like <"!" and wait your turn> and > EOF> ? It would be helpful for new folks. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo#Protocol Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 02:07:03 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:37:03 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-India] : Metting follow up for Sun Jul 12 1800 IST In-Reply-To: <78323d480907131444l32b0653cxb8f9721a5d8c5869@mail.gmail.com> References: <1247458793.3346.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> <78323d480907131444l32b0653cxb8f9721a5d8c5869@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00907131907g3ee21ac6mfd29c0f4a7275f1@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Mani A wrote: >> Ambassadors can choose to charge a marginal service fee. >> > marginal or nominal? > cost of Fedora DVD = media price + Rs 20.00 I would suggest leaving the pricing of the media (if at all there is a group of people coming up to do this) to the folks who would be doing this. It should (at least theoretically) work out that the best service provider would get repeat business. ~sankarshan ps: The notion of my earlier mail was not a blanket statement that *we are closing down Freemedia for India* but nor was it aimed at initiating discussions around possible prices. I intended to demonstrate that given ample reasons, there are ways that "retailing" could be a good way to distribute media rather than being simply dependent on Freemedia. I'd be working with Susmit and, all others who volunteer critical inputs towards assessing how best to fine-tune Freemedia to make it work better than now. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 04:00:05 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:30:05 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Ambassadors map, what are the features that you want? Message-ID: [X-Post] Hi, As the dust has settled down a bit, time to kick it up once more. :) It would be nice to have your suggestion about the map[1] and what more would you want in it. Please comment. Thanks. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/membership-map -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From yugandhar at hsiplabs.com Thu Jul 16 03:25:25 2009 From: yugandhar at hsiplabs.com (Yugandhar Veeramachaneni) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:55:25 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Got request for Free Media Message-ID: Hello Guys I just got a request for free media from a person who got my email address from the fedoraproject.org Ambassador's Details. This is the first request that I got. Now what should I do to execute this request? Whether I should wait for your sponsoring for the postage money or should I do it on my own? I cannot give him the Disc by hand because he is 300 km away from me. Please suggest the method. Thank you in Advance. Yugandhar Veeramachaneni Administrator HSIPLABS.COM | QUESTWORLD.IN Mobile : 9492573009 From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 03:34:07 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:04:07 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Got request for Free Media In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1247715247.15326.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 08:55 +0530, Yugandhar Veeramachaneni wrote: > Hello Guys > > I just got a request for free media from a person who got my email > address from the fedoraproject.org Ambassador's Details. This is the > first request that I got. Now what should I do to execute this > request? Whether I should wait for your sponsoring for the postage > money or should I do it on my own? I cannot give him the Disc by hand > because he is 300 km away from me. Please suggest the method. > > Thank you in Advance. > > Yugandhar Veeramachaneni > Administrator > HSIPLABS.COM | QUESTWORLD.IN > Mobile : 9492573009 > hi, You can either service the request on your own or request the concerned person to mail you a blank media + envelope. (so that you can burn the media and send it back) IIRC fedora provides media/sponsorship(reimbursement) for events only. -- regards, Ankur From dipanjan4foss at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 06:30:21 2009 From: dipanjan4foss at gmail.com (Dipanjan Chakraborty) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:00:21 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Anyone interested in Fedora-Medical (suggest better name) spin? In-Reply-To: References: <1247057249.3352.394.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <6a9f21cf0907152330l27d4526axecd8a5b26663dd44@mail.gmail.com> We need to rope in medical practitioners (from varied fields like medicine, surgery, etc.) and check the requirements for this to succeed. 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In-Reply-To: <6a9f21cf0907152330l27d4526axecd8a5b26663dd44@mail.gmail.com> References: <1247057249.3352.394.camel@localhost.localdomain> <6a9f21cf0907152330l27d4526axecd8a5b26663dd44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00907160054w33b20008gc8fbc83a7ff3024e@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Dipanjan Chakraborty wrote: > We need to rope in medical practitioners (from varied fields like medicine, > surgery, etc.) and check the requirements for this to succeed. > This may sound like the *Requirements Analysis* in an SDLC. :) > (we may contact our personal contacts, like someone in the family, etc. for > info). If you know of anyone who fits the bill, please have a talk with Susmit about how he wants to see the requirements for the "Spin" fleshed out. /sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 14:12:42 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:42:42 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fwd: 2009-06-24 - Fedora QA meeting Recap In-Reply-To: <1245947110.2459.289.camel@vaio.local.net> References: <1245787362.11885.955.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com> <1245868539.4634.334.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com> <4A42B1FA.6040508@hi.is> <1245947110.2459.289.camel@vaio.local.net> Message-ID: <35586fc00907160712j236782caq11ed94227259d564@mail.gmail.com> To be read in the context of: /sankarshan ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Adam Williamson Date: Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:55 PM Subject: Re: 2009-06-24 - Fedora QA meeting Recap To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 23:08 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote: > The reason for the lack of the needed information on a report is in > most cases simply that the reporter has not a clue what to include in > the report itself and is not mandatory to provide that information.The > underlying problem is not the reporter nor the triager which often ask > the reporter to include wrong information because the triager has no > better clue what to include in the report so he ask for the most > common include case ( usually to include /var/log/messages). The > problem is that the maintainer(s) them self have failed to provide > this information or has done so only to the reporter on a report > bases.When a maintainer introduces a component into Fedora it should > be mandatory for him to provide this information along with how to > enable debug output and to provide test plans for the component. I think you've definitely accurately identified a problem here and it's important to improve this situation, but making things compulsory for maintainers isn't always the best way to go :). For instance, I recently added congruity as a package to Fedora (didn't push any builds yet, I'll do it soon). If I'd had to fill out some form to explain what info should be provided in the case of bugs, that would have just felt like another annoying hoop to jump through. I also might not really _know_ what to put there, yet, since I haven't seen what it does when it doesn't work right, so I'm not really sure how I'd go about diagnosing a problem. But if it were to happen, I'd work it out. So I'd say it's more something we should figure out a process for triagers and maintainers to work on together, without beating anyone over the head with a stick. We should be taking the initiative in asking our maintainers what information they need on reports for the components we work on. If they're not replying to these questions, we should ask if there's something wrong with how we're asking them, and if not, take it to the appropriate level to explain why we really need co-operation from maintainers on this. Rather than jumping straight to getting out the big stick :) If a triager were to develop a sudden desire to triage bugs on any package I maintained, and came and asked me in a productive way what sort of information would be required on bugs of the kind BUG_REPORT_X, I'd happily help out with that, and I think most maintainers probably would. But asking them to do it cold when initially importing a package might be a bit different. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From dipanjan4foss at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 21:03:45 2009 From: dipanjan4foss at gmail.com (Dipanjan Chakraborty) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:33:45 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Anyone interested in Fedora-Medical (suggest better name) spin? In-Reply-To: <35586fc00907160054w33b20008gc8fbc83a7ff3024e@mail.gmail.com> References: <1247057249.3352.394.camel@localhost.localdomain> <6a9f21cf0907152330l27d4526axecd8a5b26663dd44@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907160054w33b20008gc8fbc83a7ff3024e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6a9f21cf0907161403q50ed5a7idc49830849507ad0@mail.gmail.com> If you know of anyone who fits the bill, please have a talk with > Susmit about how he wants to see the requirements for the "Spin" > fleshed out. > > ok -- Yours sincerely, Dipanjan Chakraborty -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From malathiramya at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 04:32:31 2009 From: malathiramya at gmail.com (malathi selvaraj) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:02:31 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Aspell Non-English Spell Checking problem - Fedora 11 Message-ID: Hi, 1) I have installed Fedora 11. 2) I've Aspell installed. I open gedit, went to Edit --> Preferences --> Plugins to enable Spell Checker 3) I can type in English and from Tools menu I could apply Spell checking. 4) Now I try to enable Tamil, Hindi spell checkers, by installing aspell-ta and aspell-hi packages 5) I am trying to set the Language in Gedit through Tools --> Set Language I could not Locate Tamil or Hindi. Should I do something more? Kindly help. -- S.MALATHI -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Jul 17 18:05:29 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:35:29 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Aspell Non-English Spell Checking problem - Fedora 11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A60BD69.50707@fedoraproject.org> On 07/17/2009 10:02 AM, malathi selvaraj wrote: > Hi, > > 1) I have installed Fedora 11. > 2) I've Aspell installed. I open gedit, went to Edit --> Preferences --> > Plugins to enable Spell Checker > 3) I can type in English and from Tools menu I could apply Spell checking. > 4) Now I try to enable Tamil, Hindi spell checkers, by installing > aspell-ta and aspell-hi packages > 5) I am trying to set the Language in Gedit through Tools --> Set Language > > I could not Locate Tamil or Hindi. Already posted the answer to ilugc # yum install @tamil-support # yum install @hindi-support Restart session. Rahul From salvadesswaran at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 07:14:10 2009 From: salvadesswaran at gmail.com (Salvadesswaran P.S.) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:44:10 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Event in SRM Message-ID: <47d9fe5c0907180014x5edbd413x59d2c1d0f68f086a@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I got a mail from a student in SRM asking for help regarding an event in his college tech fest: "Hello Sir, I am a student of SRM University, Chennai. We are having Our College Annual Tech Event in September 2009. I am organising a event "Think Linux" A Linux Workshop!! At present no much attention is given to Open Source In our college!! As you are Campus Ambassador Of Fedora Could you please provide some support for this event!! To make this event a Success We would be in need of supporters like you!! so that we could use fedora logo in posters, Banners and certificate for participation!! The event details i am mailing with this email as attachment!! hope you would consider my request positively!!" I've asked a day or two to reply back. I've also told him to post the event on our events wiki, or I'll do it. A main thing is that they have to confirm the event first. I replied him back thus: "Hi Deppak, I'm sure I'll be able to help you. You register your name on fedoraproject.org, and add your event there. I'll talk with my fellow Ambassadors and help you out. Fedora logo can be used, yes. But take care not to distort it, colors or shape. If you post your event on the events wiki at fedoraproject.org you can get help from people around the world. You can also sign up to become a Fedora Campus Ambassador." Can anyone else guide me, this is the first time that I've had such a request, and I want to fulfill it. Regards, Salvadesswaran Srinivasan Fedora Ambassador Mozilla Campus Representative SSN College of Engineering From aanjhan at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 09:36:12 2009 From: aanjhan at gmail.com (Aanjhan R) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:36:12 +0200 Subject: [fedora-india] Event in SRM In-Reply-To: <47d9fe5c0907180014x5edbd413x59d2c1d0f68f086a@mail.gmail.com> References: <47d9fe5c0907180014x5edbd413x59d2c1d0f68f086a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Salvadesswaran P.S. wrote: > Salvadesswaran Srinivasan > Fedora Ambassador > Mozilla Campus Representative > SSN College of Engineering Completely OT. But could not resist replying since SSN was my Alma mater. Nice to see someone from there. Regards, Aanjhan From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 10:17:12 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:47:12 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Event in SRM In-Reply-To: <47d9fe5c0907180014x5edbd413x59d2c1d0f68f086a@mail.gmail.com> References: <47d9fe5c0907180014x5edbd413x59d2c1d0f68f086a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Salvadesswaran P.S. wrote: > Hi, > > I got a mail from a student in SRM asking for help regarding an event > in his college tech fest: Hi, Your reply looks nice. But in case he wants funds, please point him to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sankarshan/Questions Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 10:38:10 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:08:10 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] A small work for new contributors. Who is interested? Message-ID: Hi, This[1] page is flagged "needs love" for quite sometime. If someone is interested in getting this right, I can sponsor. It will be a nice hands on on wiki editing for new contributors. Any hand? And BTW, this is not as easy as it seems. :) Thanks. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From emote2abhishek at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 17:01:39 2009 From: emote2abhishek at gmail.com (abhishek sharma) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:31:39 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Firefox very slow on Fedora 10 Message-ID: <2af752d90907181001u202a3fd3j490beece25c81ffe@mail.gmail.com> I am running Fedora 10 on my system with a 256 kbps broadband connection, using Firefox 3.0. the Internet seems to run very slow on Fedora. While on Ubuntu it just works fine, I have not been able to figure out any reason for this. Can anybody help me here?? -- Hermes Think Free, Think Open Source From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Jul 18 17:05:00 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:35:00 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Firefox very slow on Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <2af752d90907181001u202a3fd3j490beece25c81ffe@mail.gmail.com> References: <2af752d90907181001u202a3fd3j490beece25c81ffe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A6200BC.8050409@fedoraproject.org> On 07/18/2009 10:31 PM, abhishek sharma wrote: > I am running Fedora 10 on my system with a 256 kbps broadband > connection, using Firefox 3.0. the Internet seems to run very slow on > Fedora. > > While on Ubuntu it just works fine, I have not been able to figure > out any reason for this. > > Can anybody help me here?? Drop a file inside /etc/modprobe.d with the line install ipv6 /bin/true Then check. This disables IPv6. Rahul From ramadasan at amachu.net Sun Jul 19 03:44:20 2009 From: ramadasan at amachu.net (amachu) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:14:20 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Event in SRM In-Reply-To: <47d9fe5c0907180014x5edbd413x59d2c1d0f68f086a@mail.gmail.com> References: <47d9fe5c0907180014x5edbd413x59d2c1d0f68f086a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1247975060.11041.0.camel@amachu-laptop> On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 12:57 +0530, Salvadesswaran P.S. wrote: > Can anyone else guide me, this is the first time that I've had such a > request, and I want to fulfill it. > Am in Chennai. Ping me off-list. We will take this up together. -- ??????? From get_ravi_online2002 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 19 19:17:28 2009 From: get_ravi_online2002 at yahoo.com (rabi kumar) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:47:28 +0530 (IST) Subject: [fedora-india] problem in opening firefox Message-ID: <487765.28710.qm@web94307.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Hi, ? i upgrade my system and after that i started firefox but it was not opening.It is only giving segmentation faul.Both in fedora and ubuntu 8.04 Looking for local information? Find it on Yahoo! Local http://in.local.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The best thing would to be file a bug report with specific information http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report Rahul From ankit at redhat.com Mon Jul 20 04:50:50 2009 From: ankit at redhat.com (Ankitkumar Rameshchandra Patel) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:20:50 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] problem in opening firefox In-Reply-To: <487765.28710.qm@web94307.mail.in2.yahoo.com> References: <487765.28710.qm@web94307.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A63F7AA.5000506@redhat.com> rabi kumar wrote: > Hi, > i upgrade my system and after that i started firefox but it was not > opening.It is only giving segmentation faul.Both in fedora and ubuntu 8.04 > yeah this is strange and has happened to me as well, when I upgraded my F11 to rawhide. no idea what's the cause, but "firefox -safe-mode" made my firefox working... -- Regards, Ankit Patel http://www.indianoss.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shakthimaan at gmail.com Mon Jul 20 04:51:15 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:21:15 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [Event Report] National Institute of Technology, Agartala, Tripura, India Message-ID: Hi! I had conducted a Fedora workshop ("GNUtsav") at National Institute of Technology (NIT), Agartala [1], Tripura, India on July 18-19, 2009. I would like to thank the Fedora project for sponsoring the event. Special thanks to the student volunteers who worked hard in organizing the event. Mention must be made for the support of the faculty, Prof. Swapan Debbarma, Prof. Anupam Jamatia ("ajnr" on freenode), and Prof. Dwijen Rudrapal. My presentation sessions included: * i-want-2-do-project. tell-me-wat-2-do-fedora. * Badam Halwa of Embedded Systems * di-git-ally managing love letters * Fedora Electronic Lab (demo) * Packaging RPM -- Red hot, Paneer (butter) Masala The presentations are available from: http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads.html It has only been two years since this Institution has started. It is 25 km from Agartala city. The Institute has 50% reservation for State students, and 50% for students coming through an All India Engineering Entrance Examination. People speak Hindi, English, Bengali, and Kokborok. Guwahati, Assam is the main connectivity for this part of the world, or, flying from Kolkatta, West Bengal is the other option. Subsidized rate flights are available from major domestic carriers in India. Helicopter service between North-Eastern States is also available, but, is expensive. Bus journey from Guwahati, Assam to Agartala, Tripura is very tedious, and might take atleast 24 hours. When passing through the dense forests, CPRF [3] escort is required due to insurgency problems in forest areas. Students have access to distros at the labs, as well as in the hostel. Power cuts are quite common here. Mobile cell coverage is nil or works at only few places. Internet connectivity is nil or very slow on campus. Hence, we have provided them with an offline Fedora 10 repository (around 24 GB) that they can use in their computers or in the LAN. Special thanks also goes to dgplug user group from Durgapur, West Bengal for the offline repos [2]. There are few browsing centers in the city that students can use, but have to travel the distance from the campus. Work is in progress to provide students with a Fedora 11 repository. Agartala is a very scenic, lush green, and very peaceful place. Hopefully when the construction work on campus is completed in the next six months, they will be better equipped with Internet access for communicating online, and for VoIP sessions. As customary, here are few photos that I took during the trip: http://www.shakthimaan.com/Mambo/gallery/album57 Best regards, SK [1] NIT, Agartala, Tripura user group mailing list. http://groups.google.co.in/group/nitalug [2] Durgapur, West Bengal user group. http://dgplug.org/intro/ [3] CRPF. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Reserve_Police_Force -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From amitpundir at ymail.com Mon Jul 20 05:19:02 2009 From: amitpundir at ymail.com (Amit Pundir) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:49:02 +0530 (IST) Subject: [fedora-india] [Event Report] National Institute of Technology, Agartala, Tripura, India In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <599215.6021.qm@web95103.mail.in2.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- From: Shakthi Kannan To: fedora-india ; fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Sent: Monday, 20 July, 2009 10:21:15 AM Subject: [fedora-india] [Event Report] National Institute of Technology, Agartala, Tripura, India Hi! I had conducted a Fedora workshop ("GNUtsav") at National Institute of Technology (NIT), Agartala [1], Tripura, India on July 18-19, 2009. I would like to thank the Fedora project for sponsoring the event. Special thanks to the student volunteers who worked hard in organizing the event. Mention must be made for the support of the faculty, Prof. Swapan Debbarma, Prof. Anupam Jamatia ("ajnr" on freenode), and Prof. Dwijen Rudrapal. My presentation sessions included: * i-want-2-do-project. tell-me-wat-2-do-fedora. * Badam Halwa of Embedded Systems * di-git-ally managing love letters * Fedora Electronic Lab (demo) * Packaging RPM -- Red hot, Paneer (butter) Masala The presentations are available from: http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads.html It has only been two years since this Institution has started. It is 25 km from Agartala city. The Institute has 50% reservation for State students, and 50% for students coming through an All India Engineering Entrance Examination. People speak Hindi, English, Bengali, and Kokborok. Guwahati, Assam is the main connectivity for this part of the world, or, flying from Kolkatta, West Bengal is the other option. Subsidized rate flights are available from major domestic carriers in India. Helicopter service between North-Eastern States is also available, but, is expensive. Bus journey from Guwahati, Assam to Agartala, Tripura is very tedious, and might take atleast 24 hours. When passing through the dense forests, CPRF [3] escort is required due to insurgency problems in forest areas. Students have access to distros at the labs, as well as in the hostel. Power cuts are quite common here. Mobile cell coverage is nil or works at only few places. Internet connectivity is nil or very slow on campus. Hence, we have provided them with an offline Fedora 10 repository (around 24 GB) that they can use in their computers or in the LAN. Special thanks also goes to dgplug user group from Durgapur, West Bengal for the offline repos [2]. There are few browsing centers in the city that students can use, but have to travel the distance from the campus. Work is in progress to provide students with a Fedora 11 repository. Agartala is a very scenic, lush green, and very peaceful place. Hopefully when the construction work on campus is completed in the next six months, they will be better equipped with Internet access for communicating online, and for VoIP sessions. As customary, here are few photos that I took during the trip: http://www.shakthimaan.com/Mambo/gallery/album57 Best regards, SK Cheers ! Good job ! Amit Pundir +919481778789 mca at nitc Registered Linux User #471421 Fedora-India ambassador http://thebuggz.blogspot.com/ Yahoo! recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/in/internetexplorer/ From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Jul 24 00:29:37 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 05:59:37 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Using trac for event management Message-ID: <4A690071.9010602@fedoraproject.org> Hi, Since Free Media project is already using a trac, would it be useful for us to follow the same process for event and media management. The avalanche of emails for each event is getting difficult to manage. Ideally, every time someone wants funds or media for a event, they file a ticket and all discussions associated with the event should stay there. It can be private if needed. Rahul From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 03:45:15 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:15:15 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Using trac for event management In-Reply-To: <4A690071.9010602@fedoraproject.org> References: <4A690071.9010602@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <35586fc00907232045l36d350c4jde8189de1eb11c05@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 5:59 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Ideally, every time someone wants funds or media for a event, they file > a ticket and all discussions associated with the event should stay > there. It can be private if needed. I like this idea - what needs to be done to get this working ? /sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 04:15:41 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:45:41 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Using trac for event management In-Reply-To: <35586fc00907232045l36d350c4jde8189de1eb11c05@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A690071.9010602@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00907232045l36d350c4jde8189de1eb11c05@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, This one is for India. Right? That will be good. The only thing I am worried about, which, though not related to this mail but appropriate to raise in this context, is we are having too much of everything. Too many tracs, too many mailing lists, too many git repos. This may create chaos in near future. >> Ideally, every time someone wants funds or media for a event, they file >> a ticket and all discussions associated with the event should stay >> there. It can be private if needed. Not private. but private ticket enabled. That will enable the creator to see only his ticket. However, people with proper permission can see all the tickets. > I like this idea - what needs to be done to get this working ? Nothing. I shall take care of it. :) Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From adimania at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 07:30:33 2009 From: adimania at gmail.com (Aditya Patawari) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:00:33 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Using trac for event management In-Reply-To: References: <4A690071.9010602@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00907232045l36d350c4jde8189de1eb11c05@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <21f311fd0907240030q6422762dre009302f678032b7@mail.gmail.com> >would it be useful for >us to follow the same process for event and media management. Its a great idea. >Nothing. I shall take care of it. :) Still I am ready to help, if wanted. -- Aditya Patawari http://blog.adityapatawari.com/ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adimania Birla Institute of Technology, Mesra India From writetolali at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 10:16:40 2009 From: writetolali at gmail.com (pushpinder singh) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:46:40 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Reliance CDMA data card driver for Fedora Message-ID: <20949e3d0907240316o1f32349bo7f49491e7e905b1@mail.gmail.com> sorry for the cross postings m new on the list. but does anyone have the magic code for Reliance CDMA data card? Pls share. cheers Pushpinder From sankarshan at fedoraproject.org Fri Jul 24 10:24:36 2009 From: sankarshan at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?c2Fua2Fyc2hhbiAo4Ka44KaZ4KeN4KaV4Kaw4KeN4Ka34KajKQ==?=) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:54:36 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Are there any Fedora Ambassadors around/near to Jalandhar ? Message-ID: Would they please contact the OP ? /sankarshan ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: swamy mahesh Date: Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:36 AM Subject: hi !! help me out fedora ambassdor !!! ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? I want to know the nearest fedora ambassdor to jalandhar or in punjab hi , dis is Swamy Mahesh from NIT Jalandhar !! ! I am the head of opensource event called OPENGEEST, an open source event at our colg this septemberas a part of techNITI '09(our techfest !!!!). Mr.Venkatesh Hariharan, Head of open source affairs REDHAT, is attending the event to give a guest lecture !!!!!!! We are organizing workshops,seminars,group discussions, ....n lots more. So i need promotional fedora CD's to distribute at the workshop !! i want to talk to the nearest fedora ambassdor if u are one of then PLEASE reply me !!! With regards, H Swamy Mahesh. Event Co-ordinator OPENGEEST techNITI '09 +91-9988344634 Visit www.techniti.org -- >From Untruth, lead me to the Truth, >From Darkness, Lead me towards the Light, >From Death, Lead me to Life Eternal Sent from Raleigh, NC, United States From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 10:26:26 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:56:26 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Reliance CDMA data card driver for Fedora In-Reply-To: <20949e3d0907240316o1f32349bo7f49491e7e905b1@mail.gmail.com> References: <20949e3d0907240316o1f32349bo7f49491e7e905b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00907240326oebbb6bax4a2219a9b8793927@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, pushpinder singh wrote: > sorry for the cross postings m new on the list. > but does anyone have the magic code for Reliance CDMA data card? A bit more information about the make/model of the card or, what you see dmesg output would probably help folks /sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work Sent from Raleigh, NC, United States From rahul at excelize.com Fri Jul 24 11:44:53 2009 From: rahul at excelize.com (Rahul Tidke) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:14:53 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Reliance CDMA data card driver for Fedora In-Reply-To: <35586fc00907240326oebbb6bax4a2219a9b8793927@mail.gmail.com> References: <20949e3d0907240316o1f32349bo7f49491e7e905b1@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907240326oebbb6bax4a2219a9b8793927@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A699EB5.4070507@excelize.com> sankarshan wrote: > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, pushpinder singh wrote: > >> sorry for the cross postings m new on the list. >> but does anyone have the magic code for Reliance CDMA data card? >> > > A bit more information about the make/model of the card or, what you > see dmesg output would probably help folks > > /sankarshan > > > http://travisneotyler.blogspot.com/2009/07/back-on-wireless-web.html Rahul. From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 16:49:11 2009 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:19:11 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Are there any Fedora Ambassadors around/near to Jalandhar ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3170f42f0907240949m38e6876fye5925e0f48d27f95@mail.gmail.com> https://fedoraproject.org/membership-map/ suggests Abhishek Chauhan (CC'ed) as a likely candidate. Cheers, Debarshi -- One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an imaginary part. -- Andrew Koenig From das at randomink.org Sat Jul 25 04:55:07 2009 From: das at randomink.org (das) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:25:07 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Sorry State of Affairs with F11 Installer In-Reply-To: <4fea838f0907242150n7d7b878dkf7c3ab4694de5727@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fea838f0907242150n7d7b878dkf7c3ab4694de5727@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4fea838f0907242155h6feaa77bx642318d8f79a7745@mail.gmail.com> Hello Friends The Fedora 11 installer is giving a hellish experience. It is failing on every piece of HW that I tried installing on. I don't know why it is happening like that. I do always have a prejudice about odd-numbered release, but after F7 it cleared a bit. Now, F11 is again reinvigorating it. I was searching on the Net about similar experiences, and got this link that really expresses my emotion: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/index.php/archives/fedora-11-fail-because-of-anaconda/ I don't know why it is happening like that. The robust stability factor that was always there with anything from RedHat, is going down and down from F8 onwards. I think the rapidity rate of release is taking away so many good things. So many bugs go on repeating and repeating, and without solutions of them new releases come in line. What is this? Ubuntu has already demonstrated what happens when you try to popularize the MS way: you lose your forte: stability. Is Fedora trying to go that way? I don't know if I do sound a bit bitter. But that is really what I am. As a part of a local GNU-Linux group, the first horrible experience on my part came with Ubuntu, when new installations on their own started becoming messed up, even after all possibilities of becoming a supervisor was already taken away. And now comes Fedora with its new creativity: a self-willed anaconda partitioner. How nice was F7 and F8, what were the harms in keeping them longer? Two of the new users have already become afraid of using Linux. You are developer people, much much more learned than me in this line. Please do something. -- ??? das http://ddts.randomink.org/ From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 06:01:23 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:31:23 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? Message-ID: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> We seem to be getting a few of such questions on a regular basis - what is the easiest means to obtain an answer for this ? ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 06:21:17 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:51:17 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? In-Reply-To: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:31 AM, sankarshan wrote: > We seem to be getting a few of such questions on a regular basis - > what is the easiest means to obtain an answer for this ? There is no such way. We have a map here[1] made specifically for this purpose, but people don't care to update their locations. So far 19 out of over hundred Indian Ambassadors has updated their location. I started to doubt if most of the people are at all serious about the position they hold. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/membership-map/ -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From malathiramya at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 09:35:19 2009 From: malathiramya at gmail.com (malathi selvaraj) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:05:19 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] how to set aspell as default Message-ID: 1. I like to use aspell spellchecker in fedora 2. But the default spellchecker is hunspell in fedora 3. How to set aspell as default instead of hunspell 4. Because to remove hunspell a lot of packages it depends are removed Please suggess me... S.Malathi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dilipkhanolkar at fedoraproject.org Sat Jul 25 11:33:53 2009 From: dilipkhanolkar at fedoraproject.org (dilip khanolkar) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:03:53 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? In-Reply-To: References: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9ca074ea0907250433i499b84f4mb0d076ddd7b859f9@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:51 AM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:31 AM, sankarshan wrote: >> We seem to be getting a few of such questions on a regular basis - >> what is the easiest means to obtain an answer for this ? > > There is no such way. > > We have a map here[1] made specifically for this purpose, but people > don't care to update their locations. So far 19 out of over hundred > Indian Ambassadors has updated their location. > > I started to doubt if most of the people are at all serious about the > position they hold. > > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/membership-map/ > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit > ============================================= > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > I am sure about one thing if people cannot update there locations even after giving N number of locations that surely means they are just not any more interested in the project or even the position they hold -- Regards, Dilip Khanolkar, +919769107738. From adimania at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 13:01:37 2009 From: adimania at gmail.com (Aditya Patawari) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:31:37 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? In-Reply-To: <9ca074ea0907250433i499b84f4mb0d076ddd7b859f9@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907250433i499b84f4mb0d076ddd7b859f9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <21f311fd0907250601u189ee984xd91f7c9f9c55321b@mail.gmail.com> I agree with susmit and dilip, but what I don't understand is why ambassadors have not marked their locations. I mean what's the point of being an ambassador if people can't contact you when needed. Can't we make it mandatory to put up a broad working region, if not the exact address? I think susmit should look into it. -- Aditya Patawari http://blog.adityapatawari.com/ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adimania Birla Institute of Technology, Mesra India From dilipkhanolkar at fedoraproject.org Sat Jul 25 13:10:31 2009 From: dilipkhanolkar at fedoraproject.org (dilip khanolkar) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:40:31 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? In-Reply-To: <21f311fd0907250601u189ee984xd91f7c9f9c55321b@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907250433i499b84f4mb0d076ddd7b859f9@mail.gmail.com> <21f311fd0907250601u189ee984xd91f7c9f9c55321b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9ca074ea0907250610s70de2ddau232488fad566e8e0@mail.gmail.com> I think every ambassador should look into it. On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Aditya Patawari wrote: > I agree with susmit and dilip, but what I don't understand is why > ambassadors have not marked their locations. I mean what's the point > of being an ambassador if people can't contact you when needed. Can't > we make it mandatory to put up a broad working region, if not the > exact address? I think susmit should look into it. > > -- > Aditya Patawari > http://blog.adityapatawari.com/ > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adimania > Birla Institute of Technology, Mesra > India > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > -- Regards, Dilip Khanolkar, +919769107738. From santhosh.thottingal at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 17:40:29 2009 From: santhosh.thottingal at gmail.com (Santhosh Thottingal) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:10:29 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] how to set aspell as default In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <992b8210907251040w2a6d2474ie648da75879b9913@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 3:05 PM, malathi selvaraj wrote: > > 1.? I? like to use? aspell spellchecker in fedora > 2.? But the default spellchecker is hunspell in fedora > 3.? How to set aspell as default instead of hunspell > 4.? Because to remove hunspell a lot of packages it depends are removed I guess you are developing a dictionary and wanted to test the aspell results alone Hunspell is the default spellcheck program in fedora. There are two ways you can test your dictionary using aspell. 1. use aspell command with proper arguments. Read the documentation for details 2. If you can do some python coding : Use enchant. It is a wrapper over hunspell, aspell and many other spellcheck providers. pyenchant is a python binding of enchant. You can find it in repo. Use its APIs to test various features of aspell Thanks Santhosh From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Jul 25 18:36:11 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:06:11 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Sorry State of Affairs with F11 Installer In-Reply-To: <4fea838f0907242155h6feaa77bx642318d8f79a7745@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fea838f0907242150n7d7b878dkf7c3ab4694de5727@mail.gmail.com> <4fea838f0907242155h6feaa77bx642318d8f79a7745@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A6B509B.8040504@fedoraproject.org> On 07/25/2009 10:25 AM, das wrote: > Hello Friends > > The Fedora 11 installer is giving a hellish experience. It is failing > on every piece of HW that I tried installing on. I don't know why it > is happening like that. It is happening because the Anaconda team had to rewrite the entire storage layer from scratch http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/06/16/on-fedora-11-installation/ It seems you are having a particularly unlucky streak with it. Sorry about that. Rahul From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 18:50:56 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:20:56 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Sorry State of Affairs with F11 Installer In-Reply-To: <4A6B509B.8040504@fedoraproject.org> References: <4fea838f0907242150n7d7b878dkf7c3ab4694de5727@mail.gmail.com> <4fea838f0907242155h6feaa77bx642318d8f79a7745@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B509B.8040504@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: >> The Fedora 11 installer is giving a hellish experience. It is failing >> on every piece of HW that I tried installing on. I don't know why it >> is happening like that. > > It is happening because the Anaconda team had to rewrite the entire > storage layer from scratch > > http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/06/16/on-fedora-11-installation/ > > It seems you are having a particularly unlucky streak with it. Sorry > about that. It is not him alone. I am having the almost similar experience too. While I appreciate the effort of rewritting anaconda, what I fail to appreciate is what worked even in the last release, does not work with the newer one. What is the use of new features if it is not usable? Someday, I shall take it up to the devel list. Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From sudheer.s at binaryvibes.co.in Sat Jul 25 19:28:49 2009 From: sudheer.s at binaryvibes.co.in (Sudheer Satyanarayana) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:58:49 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Sorry State of Affairs with F11 Installer In-Reply-To: References: <4fea838f0907242150n7d7b878dkf7c3ab4694de5727@mail.gmail.com> <4fea838f0907242155h6feaa77bx642318d8f79a7745@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B509B.8040504@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4A6B5CF1.9070803@binaryvibes.co.in> > > It is not him alone. I am having the almost similar experience too. > > While I appreciate the effort of rewritting anaconda, what I fail to > appreciate is what worked even in the last release, does not work with > the newer one. > > What is the use of new features if it is not usable? Someday, I shall > take it up to the devel list. > > I too am a victim of anaconda failing on both F10 and F11. I was at a friend's place yesterday trying to install Fedora on his PC. F11 failed to install. Then I tried F10. That too failed. I suspected the hardware and requested the friend to upgrade RAM from 256 MB to 1 GB. He did. But the problem still persisted. I had no Internet connectivity at the friend's place to get some online help Google, #fedora, etc. There is a pressing need to get Linux working on that PC. Therefore I have decided to install another distro for this friend. I am going to try to install CentOS on that PC tomorrow. If that doesn't suit, I'll install Ubuntu on it. I have downloaded the Ubuntu ISO image today in preparation. I am a bit embarrassed because of this situation. I have been advocating Fedora wherever I could from the past few years. Maybe, I do not understand the goals of Fedora project properly. But, is Fedora really suitable for casual non-CS users? I have my doubts. No offence meant to anybody in the community. But yesterday I suddenly strongly felt the need for better QA and LTS. This issue certainly needs top priority. I hope for a F11 respin with the anaconda fixes. -- With warm regards, Sudheer. S Business: http://binaryvibes.co.in, Tech stuff: http://techchorus.net, Personal: http://sudheer.net From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Jul 25 19:34:22 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 01:04:22 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Sorry State of Affairs with F11 Installer In-Reply-To: <4A6B5CF1.9070803@binaryvibes.co.in> References: <4fea838f0907242150n7d7b878dkf7c3ab4694de5727@mail.gmail.com> <4fea838f0907242155h6feaa77bx642318d8f79a7745@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B509B.8040504@fedoraproject.org> <4A6B5CF1.9070803@binaryvibes.co.in> Message-ID: <4A6B5E3E.8020401@fedoraproject.org> On 07/26/2009 12:58 AM, Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote: > No offence meant to anybody in the community. But yesterday I suddenly > strongly felt the need for better QA and LTS. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Join https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Extended_Life_Cycle Would you participate in the current rawhide testing or in maintaining packages? That would help. Rahul From adimania at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 19:54:43 2009 From: adimania at gmail.com (Aditya Patawari) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 01:24:43 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Sorry State of Affairs with F11 Installer In-Reply-To: <4A6B5E3E.8020401@fedoraproject.org> References: <4fea838f0907242150n7d7b878dkf7c3ab4694de5727@mail.gmail.com> <4fea838f0907242155h6feaa77bx642318d8f79a7745@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B509B.8040504@fedoraproject.org> <4A6B5CF1.9070803@binaryvibes.co.in> <4A6B5E3E.8020401@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <21f311fd0907251254v1b2523f8j8ce8d073ace2bb5e@mail.gmail.com> I am downloading fedora 10 and 11 from weeks in hope to install it in a couple of laptops but in fedora 10 every thing crashes and 11 doesn't even installs in parallel to windows. Although when I tried using entire disk then it installed. I think there is problem with partitions in fedora 11. Can you tell me if from some where I can download a fedora release with all bugs fixed. All the mirrors have releases with bugs (atleast most of them) -- Aditya Patawari http://blog.adityapatawari.com/ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adimania Birla Institute of Technology, Mesra India From a.mani.cms at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 22:39:26 2009 From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 04:09:26 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Sorry State of Affairs with F11 Installer In-Reply-To: <21f311fd0907251254v1b2523f8j8ce8d073ace2bb5e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fea838f0907242150n7d7b878dkf7c3ab4694de5727@mail.gmail.com> <4fea838f0907242155h6feaa77bx642318d8f79a7745@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B509B.8040504@fedoraproject.org> <4A6B5CF1.9070803@binaryvibes.co.in> <4A6B5E3E.8020401@fedoraproject.org> <21f311fd0907251254v1b2523f8j8ce8d073ace2bb5e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <78323d480907251539k11f056b7w802089db1fee4fe4@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Aditya Patawari wrote: > I am downloading fedora 10 and 11 from weeks in hope to install it in > a couple of laptops but in fedora 10 every thing crashes and 11 > doesn't even installs in parallel to windows. Although when I tried > using entire disk then it installed. I think there is problem with > partitions in fedora 11. Do the partitioning before hand using parted magic or any other live cd and then install. Best A. Mani -- A. Mani ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS http://amani.topcities.com http://www.logicamani.co.cc From adimania at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 03:06:18 2009 From: adimania at gmail.com (Aditya Patawari) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:36:18 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Sorry State of Affairs with F11 Installer In-Reply-To: <78323d480907251539k11f056b7w802089db1fee4fe4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fea838f0907242150n7d7b878dkf7c3ab4694de5727@mail.gmail.com> <4fea838f0907242155h6feaa77bx642318d8f79a7745@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B509B.8040504@fedoraproject.org> <4A6B5CF1.9070803@binaryvibes.co.in> <4A6B5E3E.8020401@fedoraproject.org> <21f311fd0907251254v1b2523f8j8ce8d073ace2bb5e@mail.gmail.com> <78323d480907251539k11f056b7w802089db1fee4fe4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <21f311fd0907252006q12d68113la9e9d87ad09cf6df@mail.gmail.com> > Do the partitioning before hand using parted magic or any other live > cd and then install. Which one support ext4? -- Aditya Patawari http://blog.adityapatawari.com/ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adimania Birla Institute of Technology, Mesra India From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Jul 26 03:12:03 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:42:03 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Sorry State of Affairs with F11 Installer In-Reply-To: <21f311fd0907252006q12d68113la9e9d87ad09cf6df@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fea838f0907242150n7d7b878dkf7c3ab4694de5727@mail.gmail.com> <4fea838f0907242155h6feaa77bx642318d8f79a7745@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B509B.8040504@fedoraproject.org> <4A6B5CF1.9070803@binaryvibes.co.in> <4A6B5E3E.8020401@fedoraproject.org> <21f311fd0907251254v1b2523f8j8ce8d073ace2bb5e@mail.gmail.com> <78323d480907251539k11f056b7w802089db1fee4fe4@mail.gmail.com> <21f311fd0907252006q12d68113la9e9d87ad09cf6df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A6BC983.3060903@fedoraproject.org> On 07/26/2009 08:36 AM, Aditya Patawari wrote: >> Do the partitioning before hand using parted magic or any other live >> cd and then install. > > Which one support ext4? Apparently the latest version, 0.4.5 does. Fedora does support Ext3 (when installed from regular DVD / CD as opposed to Live images). Rahul From adimania at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 03:27:23 2009 From: adimania at gmail.com (Aditya Patawari) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:57:23 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Sorry State of Affairs with F11 Installer In-Reply-To: <4A6BC983.3060903@fedoraproject.org> References: <4fea838f0907242150n7d7b878dkf7c3ab4694de5727@mail.gmail.com> <4fea838f0907242155h6feaa77bx642318d8f79a7745@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B509B.8040504@fedoraproject.org> <4A6B5CF1.9070803@binaryvibes.co.in> <4A6B5E3E.8020401@fedoraproject.org> <21f311fd0907251254v1b2523f8j8ce8d073ace2bb5e@mail.gmail.com> <78323d480907251539k11f056b7w802089db1fee4fe4@mail.gmail.com> <21f311fd0907252006q12d68113la9e9d87ad09cf6df@mail.gmail.com> <4A6BC983.3060903@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <21f311fd0907252027l55b17214kfef2ba597cad4b4a@mail.gmail.com> Just a few more question. When I try installing from dvd, it takes too long on "resolving dependencies" part. How long should it take ideally? also please tell me that does it require an internet connection for resolving dependencies? -- Aditya Patawari http://blog.adityapatawari.com/ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adimania Birla Institute of Technology, Mesra India From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Jul 26 03:31:34 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:01:34 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Sorry State of Affairs with F11 Installer In-Reply-To: <21f311fd0907252027l55b17214kfef2ba597cad4b4a@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fea838f0907242150n7d7b878dkf7c3ab4694de5727@mail.gmail.com> <4fea838f0907242155h6feaa77bx642318d8f79a7745@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B509B.8040504@fedoraproject.org> <4A6B5CF1.9070803@binaryvibes.co.in> <4A6B5E3E.8020401@fedoraproject.org> <21f311fd0907251254v1b2523f8j8ce8d073ace2bb5e@mail.gmail.com> <78323d480907251539k11f056b7w802089db1fee4fe4@mail.gmail.com> <21f311fd0907252006q12d68113la9e9d87ad09cf6df@mail.gmail.com> <4A6BC983.3060903@fedoraproject.org> <21f311fd0907252027l55b17214kfef2ba597cad4b4a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A6BCE16.4090609@fedoraproject.org> On 07/26/2009 08:57 AM, Aditya Patawari wrote: > Just a few more question. When I try installing from dvd, it takes too > long on "resolving dependencies" part. How long should it take > ideally? also please tell me that does it require an internet > connection for resolving dependencies? Not more than a few minutes usually (on a fresh installation). The exact time depends on the system specifications and the packages selected. You can select additional packages or updates if you have a net connection but this is optional. Rahul From adimania at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 03:39:47 2009 From: adimania at gmail.com (Aditya Patawari) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:09:47 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Sorry State of Affairs with F11 Installer In-Reply-To: <4A6BCE16.4090609@fedoraproject.org> References: <4fea838f0907242150n7d7b878dkf7c3ab4694de5727@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B5CF1.9070803@binaryvibes.co.in> <4A6B5E3E.8020401@fedoraproject.org> <21f311fd0907251254v1b2523f8j8ce8d073ace2bb5e@mail.gmail.com> <78323d480907251539k11f056b7w802089db1fee4fe4@mail.gmail.com> <21f311fd0907252006q12d68113la9e9d87ad09cf6df@mail.gmail.com> <4A6BC983.3060903@fedoraproject.org> <21f311fd0907252027l55b17214kfef2ba597cad4b4a@mail.gmail.com> <4A6BCE16.4090609@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <21f311fd0907252039p6763573ahf21b8c806e8db96e@mail.gmail.com> Well actually, I choose to install server components like BIND and Dovecot. I didn't added any additional repositories or updates though. I have a really weak internet connection. So is it advisable to remove all those components and try? Standard installation doesn't require any net connection I guess. does it? -- Aditya Patawari http://blog.adityapatawari.com/ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adimania Birla Institute of Technology, Mesra India From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Jul 26 03:40:35 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:10:35 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Sorry State of Affairs with F11 Installer In-Reply-To: <21f311fd0907252039p6763573ahf21b8c806e8db96e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fea838f0907242150n7d7b878dkf7c3ab4694de5727@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B5CF1.9070803@binaryvibes.co.in> <4A6B5E3E.8020401@fedoraproject.org> <21f311fd0907251254v1b2523f8j8ce8d073ace2bb5e@mail.gmail.com> <78323d480907251539k11f056b7w802089db1fee4fe4@mail.gmail.com> <21f311fd0907252006q12d68113la9e9d87ad09cf6df@mail.gmail.com> <4A6BC983.3060903@fedoraproject.org> <21f311fd0907252027l55b17214kfef2ba597cad4b4a@mail.gmail.com> <4A6BCE16.4090609@fedoraproject.org> <21f311fd0907252039p6763573ahf21b8c806e8db96e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A6BD033.40004@fedoraproject.org> On 07/26/2009 09:09 AM, Aditya Patawari wrote: > Well actually, I choose to install server components like BIND and > Dovecot. That should work since these packages are available in the DVD itself. I didn't added any additional repositories or updates though. > I have a really weak internet connection. So is it advisable to remove > all those components and try? Standard installation doesn't require > any net connection I guess. does it? No. Rahul From ashwin_man at yahoo.com Sun Jul 26 04:14:53 2009 From: ashwin_man at yahoo.com (Ashwin Mansinghka) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [fedora-india] Sorry State of Affairs with F11 Installer Message-ID: <21355.39316.qm@web57607.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Excuse for the top post. +1 I introduced myself to Linux with Redhat 6.0 and have used all the release thereafter till Fedora 11. I share the same feeling, principally one of the reasons which prevents me to list myself as a Fedora ambassador. with Regards, ASHWIN On 25-Jul-09 10:25 AM, das wrote: > Hello Friends > > The Fedora 11 installer is giving a hellish experience. It is failing > on every piece of HW that I tried installing on. I don't know why it > is happening like that. I do always have a prejudice about > odd-numbered release, but after F7 it cleared a bit. Now, F11 is again > reinvigorating it. > > I was searching on the Net about similar experiences, and got this > link that really expresses my emotion: > http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/index.php/archives/fedora-11-fail-because-of-anaconda/ > > I don't know why it is happening like that. The robust stability > factor that was always there with anything from RedHat, is going down > and down from F8 onwards. > > I think the rapidity rate of release is taking away so many good > things. So many bugs go on repeating and repeating, and without > solutions of them new releases come in line. What is this? Ubuntu has > already demonstrated what happens when you try to popularize the MS > way: you lose your forte: stability. Is Fedora trying to go that way? > > I don't know if I do sound a bit bitter. But that is really what I am. > As a part of a local GNU-Linux group, the first horrible experience > on my part came with Ubuntu, when new installations on their own > started becoming messed up, even after all possibilities of becoming a > supervisor was already taken away. And now comes Fedora with its new > creativity: a self-willed anaconda partitioner. How nice was F7 and > F8, what were the harms in keeping them longer? Two of the new users > have already become afraid of using Linux. > > You are developer people, much much more learned than me in this line. > Please do something. > > -- > ??? das > http://ddts.randomink.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > > > See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Yahoo! Buzz. http://in.buzz.yahoo.com/ From ashwin_man at yahoo.com Sun Jul 26 04:22:11 2009 From: ashwin_man at yahoo.com (Ashwin Mansinghka) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [fedora-india] Sorry State of Affairs with F11 Installer Message-ID: <751323.25192.qm@web57616.mail.re1.yahoo.com> On 26-Jul-09 1:04 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 07/26/2009 12:58 AM, Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote: > > >> No offence meant to anybody in the community. But yesterday I suddenly >> strongly felt the need for better QA and LTS. >> > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Join > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Extended_Life_Cycle > > Would you participate in the current rawhide testing or in maintaining > packages? That would help. > It is good to be positive and look forward to improvements in small ways. But sometimes, we need to pause and reflect, when the larger image is in doubt, to make far reaching corrections with reasoning and explanations. 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URL: From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 04:24:59 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:54:59 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Sorry State of Affairs with F11 Installer In-Reply-To: <21355.39316.qm@web57607.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <21355.39316.qm@web57607.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1248582299.4170.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 21:14 -0700, Ashwin Mansinghka wrote: > Excuse for the top post. > > +1 > > I introduced myself to Linux with Redhat 6.0 and have used > all the release thereafter till Fedora 11. > > I share the same feeling, principally one of the reasons which > prevents me to list myself as a Fedora ambassador. > > with Regards, > ASHWIN > hi, Well then, if you see a problem, help us fix it.. Sounds like a reason *to list* yourself as an ambassador , not like one that should prevent you. :) PS : Folks, if you come across problems, please take time to google and query #fedora, #fedora-india on Freenode. -- regards, Ankur From sameep at tuxwire.com Sun Jul 26 04:37:35 2009 From: sameep at tuxwire.com (Sameep Kaul) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:07:35 +0530 (IST) Subject: [fedora-india] [OT] Setting up an Online Linux Store Message-ID: <5450684.131248583053198.JavaMail.sameep@sameep-desktop> Hi , Would anyone be interested in setting up and running an Online Store [India Only] selling CDs / DVDs of different GNU/Linux distributions ? There are a few people selling distros however noboy has a dedicated store yet. If anyone is interested , please contact me offlist. Thanks in advance , Regards, Sameep [tuxwire.com] From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 04:39:31 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:09:31 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? In-Reply-To: References: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00907252139k73c4f2ddn644d6b60aeb57dfa@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:51 AM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:31 AM, sankarshan wrote: >> We seem to be getting a few of such questions on a regular basis - >> what is the easiest means to obtain an answer for this ? > > There is no such way. > > We have a map here[1] made specifically for this purpose, but people > don't care to update their locations. So far 19 out of over hundred > Indian Ambassadors has updated their location. In an ideal world, I'd look for a way to input a location and, get a list of Ambassadors nearest to me ordered in priority by location and, then state etc. What should we do to make that happen ? A sort of "reach out to the Ambassador near you" kind of application ? ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 04:43:16 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:13:16 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? In-Reply-To: <35586fc00907252139k73c4f2ddn644d6b60aeb57dfa@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252139k73c4f2ddn644d6b60aeb57dfa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > In an ideal world, I'd look for a way to input a location and, get a > list of Ambassadors nearest to me ordered in priority by location and, > then state etc. What should we do to make that happen ? A sort of > "reach out to the Ambassador near you" kind of application ? I shall do it anyway. Do you think people will reply when contacted? -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 04:54:44 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:24:44 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? In-Reply-To: References: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252139k73c4f2ddn644d6b60aeb57dfa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00907252154l375b753eh3632e6bececc0cb2@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 10:13 AM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: >> In an ideal world, I'd look for a way to input a location and, get a >> list of Ambassadors nearest to me ordered in priority by location and, >> then state etc. What should we do to make that happen ? A sort of >> "reach out to the Ambassador near you" kind of application ? > I shall do it anyway. :) Thanks > Do you think people will reply when contacted? If they don't, that is always a good reason to review their Ambassador role. ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work Sent from Pune, MH, India From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 05:11:39 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:41:39 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? In-Reply-To: References: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252139k73c4f2ddn644d6b60aeb57dfa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1248585099.4170.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 10:13 +0530, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > In an ideal world, I'd look for a way to input a location and, get a > > list of Ambassadors nearest to me ordered in priority by location and, > > then state etc. What should we do to make that happen ? A sort of > > "reach out to the Ambassador near you" kind of application ? > I shall do it anyway. > Do you think people will reply when contacted? > > hi, A lot of ambassadors lack accountability. I suggest a weeding process to weed ones that are inactive. I know this has been done before, but housekeeping is periodic, isn't it? Since becoming a fedora ambassador is a voluntary activity,requiring no qualification, a lot of folks join up just so they can call themselves "Fedora Ambassador in India" without paying *any* respect to it's duties. As starters,for eg(s), - IIRC, all ambassadors were required to post on their blogs (every 3 months atleast , I think?) regarding what work they've been doing? - How many of them even take part in discussions on this list? - How many of them are helping spread Fedora or contributing otherwise? There are a lot of other duties that need to be fulfilled which are going *ignored*. As a side effect, *we* end up asking questions such as,"If there are *so many* ambassadors, why isn't the LC program working??" Replying to a mail saying "Yes, I'm an ambassador and I've been doing this recently."(which there is no way of confirming) is not enough to "qualify" someone as an ambassador. Most folks only wake up to reply to that one mail so they can keep the "FA in India". It's better to have a bunch of *ACTIVE* ambassadors rather that 1 huge pile of inactive ones. At least we'll know whose going to reply and whose not. The Ambassadors page should not be open for all to edit. Similar to the Map page, which generates itself, it should generate itself depending upon a group such as "Proven ambassador" which will need sponsorship (like a proven packager). You get a "proven ambassador" if you're working, else you don't get your name on the list to "show" people. And yes, if you stop working, "proven ambassador" sprouts wings and flies away. There was a "probation period" for new ambassadors too. I haven't quite seen it implemented. -- regards, Ankur From dilipkhanolkar at fedoraproject.org Sun Jul 26 05:56:26 2009 From: dilipkhanolkar at fedoraproject.org (dilip khanolkar) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:26:26 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? In-Reply-To: <35586fc00907252154l375b753eh3632e6bececc0cb2@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252139k73c4f2ddn644d6b60aeb57dfa@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252154l375b753eh3632e6bececc0cb2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9ca074ea0907252256u12411d2dl6fb1c4baa47a244e@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 10:24 AM, sankarshan wrote: > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 10:13 AM, susmit > shannigrahi wrote: >>> In an ideal world, I'd look for a way to input a location and, get a >>> list of Ambassadors nearest to me ordered in priority by location and, >>> then state etc. What should we do to make that happen ? A sort of >>> "reach out to the Ambassador near you" kind of application ? >> I shall do it anyway. > > :) Thanks > >> Do you think people will reply when contacted? > > If they don't, that is always a good reason to review their Ambassador role. > > ~sankarshan > > > -- > http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published > http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science > http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work > > > Sent from Pune, MH, India > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > I agree to sankarshan. Both the points are perfect. -- Regards, Dilip Khanolkar, +919769107738. From adimania at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 06:09:19 2009 From: adimania at gmail.com (Aditya Patawari) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:39:19 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? In-Reply-To: <9ca074ea0907252256u12411d2dl6fb1c4baa47a244e@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252139k73c4f2ddn644d6b60aeb57dfa@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252154l375b753eh3632e6bececc0cb2@mail.gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907252256u12411d2dl6fb1c4baa47a244e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <21f311fd0907252309h47b37612m1375a27b4efec036@mail.gmail.com> I bet even if we mail "If you are an ambassador then reply" to mailing list most of the ambassadors won't even reply implying they don't even look at the mails. This can be a small test for start. -- Aditya Patawari http://blog.adityapatawari.com/ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adimania Birla Institute of Technology, Mesra India From dilipkhanolkar at fedoraproject.org Sun Jul 26 06:16:48 2009 From: dilipkhanolkar at fedoraproject.org (dilip khanolkar) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:46:48 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? In-Reply-To: <21f311fd0907252309h47b37612m1375a27b4efec036@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252139k73c4f2ddn644d6b60aeb57dfa@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252154l375b753eh3632e6bececc0cb2@mail.gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907252256u12411d2dl6fb1c4baa47a244e@mail.gmail.com> <21f311fd0907252309h47b37612m1375a27b4efec036@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9ca074ea0907252316x527e4ec2g18926d361281986c@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Aditya Patawari wrote: > I bet even if we mail "If you are an ambassador then reply" to mailing > list most of the ambassadors won't even reply implying they don't even > look at the mails. This can be a small test for start. I can bet many ambassadors have put the list email id in the spam box. -- Regards, Dilip Khanolkar, +919769107738. From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 06:21:14 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:51:14 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? In-Reply-To: <9ca074ea0907252316x527e4ec2g18926d361281986c@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252139k73c4f2ddn644d6b60aeb57dfa@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252154l375b753eh3632e6bececc0cb2@mail.gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907252256u12411d2dl6fb1c4baa47a244e@mail.gmail.com> <21f311fd0907252309h47b37612m1375a27b4efec036@mail.gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907252316x527e4ec2g18926d361281986c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1248589274.4170.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 11:46 +0530, dilip khanolkar wrote: > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Aditya Patawari wrote: > > I bet even if we mail "If you are an ambassador then reply" to mailing > > list most of the ambassadors won't even reply implying they don't even > > look at the mails. This can be a small test for start. > > I can bet many ambassadors have put the list email id in the spam box. hi, Whatever, the case might be. If an ambassador is inactive, his name shouldn't show up on the list. @ susmit,sankarshan, rahul : thoughts on my *long* mail? can anything be done to increase accountability? -- regards, Ankur From sudheer.s at binaryvibes.co.in Sun Jul 26 06:24:32 2009 From: sudheer.s at binaryvibes.co.in (Sudheer Satyanarayana) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:54:32 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Sorry State of Affairs with F11 Installer In-Reply-To: <4A6B5E3E.8020401@fedoraproject.org> References: <4fea838f0907242150n7d7b878dkf7c3ab4694de5727@mail.gmail.com> <4fea838f0907242155h6feaa77bx642318d8f79a7745@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B509B.8040504@fedoraproject.org> <4A6B5CF1.9070803@binaryvibes.co.in> <4A6B5E3E.8020401@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4A6BF6A0.5080400@binaryvibes.co.in> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Join > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Extended_Life_Cycle > > Would you participate in the current rawhide testing or in maintaining > packages? That would help. > > Rahul, Thanks for the links. I am aware of various groups where anyone could join and help the project. Currently, I am hard pressed for time. I am trying to familiarize myself with package management. I will be glad to spend few hours every week in this regard. I have been reading the documentation from the Wiki and other places to learn about package management. I will be able to join the group once I get the basics right. It is surprising to see only 33 people in the list of people wanting to support Extended Life Cycle. -- With warm regards, Sudheer. S Business: http://binaryvibes.co.in, Tech stuff: http://techchorus.net, Personal: http://sudheer.net From amitpundir at ymail.com Sun Jul 26 06:24:33 2009 From: amitpundir at ymail.com (Amit Pundir) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:54:33 +0530 (IST) Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? In-Reply-To: <21f311fd0907252309h47b37612m1375a27b4efec036@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252139k73c4f2ddn644d6b60aeb57dfa@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252154l375b753eh3632e6bececc0cb2@mail.gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907252256u12411d2dl6fb1c4baa47a244e@mail.gmail.com> <21f311fd0907252309h47b37612m1375a27b4efec036@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <902953.30230.qm@web95110.mail.in2.yahoo.com> ________________________________ From: Aditya Patawari To: fedora-india at redhat.com Sent: Sunday, 26 July, 2009 11:39:19 AM Subject: Re: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? >I bet even if we mail "If you are an ambassador then reply" to mailing >list most of the ambassadors won't even reply implying they don't even >look at the mails. This can be a small test for start. but last time lot of ambassadors responded to the mail [1] -- >Aditya Patawari [1] - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-india/2009-February/msg00157.html Amit Pundir +919481778789 mca at nitc Registered Linux User #471421 Fedora-India ambassador http://thebuggz.blogspot.com/ Yahoo! recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/in/internetexplorer/ From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 06:35:03 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:05:03 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? In-Reply-To: <902953.30230.qm@web95110.mail.in2.yahoo.com> References: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252139k73c4f2ddn644d6b60aeb57dfa@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252154l375b753eh3632e6bececc0cb2@mail.gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907252256u12411d2dl6fb1c4baa47a244e@mail.gmail.com> <21f311fd0907252309h47b37612m1375a27b4efec036@mail.gmail.com> <902953.30230.qm@web95110.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > but last time lot of ambassadors responded to the mail [1] That was send personally. :) -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 06:38:27 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:08:27 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? In-Reply-To: References: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252139k73c4f2ddn644d6b60aeb57dfa@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252154l375b753eh3632e6bececc0cb2@mail.gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907252256u12411d2dl6fb1c4baa47a244e@mail.gmail.com> <21f311fd0907252309h47b37612m1375a27b4efec036@mail.gmail.com> <902953.30230.qm@web95110.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1248590307.4170.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 12:05 +0530, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > but last time lot of ambassadors responded to the mail [1] > That was send personally. :) > hi, how many of them do you see active susmit, offhand figure? even an approx fraction would do? -- regards, Ankur From adimania at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 06:39:53 2009 From: adimania at gmail.com (Aditya Patawari) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:09:53 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? In-Reply-To: References: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252139k73c4f2ddn644d6b60aeb57dfa@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252154l375b753eh3632e6bececc0cb2@mail.gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907252256u12411d2dl6fb1c4baa47a244e@mail.gmail.com> <21f311fd0907252309h47b37612m1375a27b4efec036@mail.gmail.com> <902953.30230.qm@web95110.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <21f311fd0907252339t4e479197yea1360f2b4cf35fa@mail.gmail.com> Retry sending these mails. Even if we are able to remove 10 inactive ones it will be good for us. Additionally we can ask to put their location on fedora map as a compulsory step for continuing as an ambassador -- Aditya Patawari http://blog.adityapatawari.com/ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adimania Birla Institute of Technology, Mesra India From dilipkhanolkar at fedoraproject.org Sun Jul 26 06:45:35 2009 From: dilipkhanolkar at fedoraproject.org (dilip khanolkar) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:15:35 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? In-Reply-To: <21f311fd0907252339t4e479197yea1360f2b4cf35fa@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252139k73c4f2ddn644d6b60aeb57dfa@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252154l375b753eh3632e6bececc0cb2@mail.gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907252256u12411d2dl6fb1c4baa47a244e@mail.gmail.com> <21f311fd0907252309h47b37612m1375a27b4efec036@mail.gmail.com> <902953.30230.qm@web95110.mail.in2.yahoo.com> <21f311fd0907252339t4e479197yea1360f2b4cf35fa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9ca074ea0907252345n561821e9u31d3694b96788d7@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Aditya Patawari wrote: > Retry sending these mails. Even if we are able to remove 10 inactive > ones it will be good for us. "Additionally we can ask to put their location on fedora map as a compulsory step for continuing as an ambassador " I agree to that, that should be a compulsory step.No exclusions should be there -- Regards, Dilip Khanolkar, +919769107738. From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 06:48:47 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:18:47 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? In-Reply-To: <21f311fd0907252339t4e479197yea1360f2b4cf35fa@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252139k73c4f2ddn644d6b60aeb57dfa@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252154l375b753eh3632e6bececc0cb2@mail.gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907252256u12411d2dl6fb1c4baa47a244e@mail.gmail.com> <21f311fd0907252309h47b37612m1375a27b4efec036@mail.gmail.com> <902953.30230.qm@web95110.mail.in2.yahoo.com> <21f311fd0907252339t4e479197yea1360f2b4cf35fa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Aditya Patawari wrote: > Retry sending these mails. Even if we are able to remove 10 inactive > ones it will be good for us. Additionally we can ask to put their > location on fedora map as a compulsory step for continuing as an > ambassador Let me put my foot down and say NO. That was a bad experience, I won't repeat it. Ankur, what you suggested is (most part of it) already implemented with the new membership process. And I am not for making any assumption for number of active ambassadors. Whoever wants to work, will do it, if someone does not work will be eventually cleaned up. I don't think we need to worry about it. Last week, we cleaned up 210 inactive ambassadors. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 06:55:56 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:25:56 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? In-Reply-To: References: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252139k73c4f2ddn644d6b60aeb57dfa@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252154l375b753eh3632e6bececc0cb2@mail.gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907252256u12411d2dl6fb1c4baa47a244e@mail.gmail.com> <21f311fd0907252309h47b37612m1375a27b4efec036@mail.gmail.com> <902953.30230.qm@web95110.mail.in2.yahoo.com> <21f311fd0907252339t4e479197yea1360f2b4cf35fa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1248591356.4170.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 12:18 +0530, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Aditya Patawari wrote: > > Retry sending these mails. Even if we are able to remove 10 inactive > > ones it will be good for us. Additionally we can ask to put their > > location on fedora map as a compulsory step for continuing as an > > ambassador > > Let me put my foot down and say NO. > That was a bad experience, I won't repeat it. > +1 Replying to mails or putting yourself on the map makes no difference whatsoever . That is no measure of whether a person will work or not. > Ankur, what you suggested is (most part of it) already implemented > with the new membership process. And I am not for making any > assumption for number of active ambassadors. Whoever wants to work, > will do it, if someone does not work will be eventually cleaned up. I > don't think we need to worry about it. Last week, we cleaned up 210 > inactive ambassadors. > hi, That's great. I didn't know a clean up was already ongoing. Is there a wiki page or something for us to know more? I'd suggest a quarterly "What I'm doing" report as mandatory for all ambassadors: All you've got to do is mail to the list, with relevant info and links(some way of knowing that you are actually up to something).Also, the work should be Fedora oriented. Just being part of an LUG isn't enough for a Fedora ambassador. comments folks? @ Rangeen etc? -- regards, Ankur From vishalgarg09 at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 13:24:31 2009 From: vishalgarg09 at gmail.com (Vishal Garg) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:54:31 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Firefox very slow on Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <2af752d90907181001u202a3fd3j490beece25c81ffe@mail.gmail.com> References: <2af752d90907181001u202a3fd3j490beece25c81ffe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > > I am running Fedora 10 on my system with a 256 kbps broadband > connection, using Firefox 3.0. the Internet seems to run very slow on > Fedora. > Still using FF 3.0, dude FF 3.5 is out, switch to it, it is awesome. It uses html 5 and some really cool features. http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/video/ http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/features/ -- VISHAL GARG Linux User #487206 vishalgarg09 at gmail.com "Learning is not compulsory... neither is survival" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sinha.k.ritesh at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 16:31:52 2009 From: sinha.k.ritesh at gmail.com (Ritesh Sinha) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:01:52 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Firefox very slow on Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: References: <2af752d90907181001u202a3fd3j490beece25c81ffe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > > > > Drop a file inside /etc/modprobe.d with the line > install ipv6 /bin/true > Then check. This disables IPv6. How can one be sure that it is an issue with IPv6? Also, will this hack not affect other applications/services? >Still using FF 3.0, dude FF 3.5 is out, switch to it, it is awesome. >It uses html 5 and some really cool features. FF3.5 doesn't use HTML 5, it supports the standard. Yes it does render JS remarkably faster due to optimizations in the JS VM. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 18:12:53 2009 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:42:53 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [OT] Setting up an Online Linux Store In-Reply-To: <5450684.131248583053198.JavaMail.sameep@sameep-desktop> References: <5450684.131248583053198.JavaMail.sameep@sameep-desktop> Message-ID: <3170f42f0907261112y22512a5q6e76bba52db1f7ce@mail.gmail.com> > There are a few people selling distros however noboy has a dedicated store yet. What do you mean by "a dedicated store"? Cheers, Debarshi -- One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an imaginary part. -- Andrew Koenig From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Jul 26 19:57:03 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:27:03 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Firefox very slow on Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: References: <2af752d90907181001u202a3fd3j490beece25c81ffe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A6CB50F.30709@fedoraproject.org> On 07/26/2009 10:01 PM, Ritesh Sinha wrote: >> Drop a file inside /etc/modprobe.d with the line >> install ipv6 /bin/true >> Then check. This disables IPv6. > > How can one be sure that it is an issue with IPv6? One cannot be. That is why I asked him to check. Also, will this hack > not affect other applications/services? I doubt the presence of IPv6 matters much yet. Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Jul 26 20:00:05 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:30:05 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Sorry State of Affairs with F11 Installer In-Reply-To: <4A6BF6A0.5080400@binaryvibes.co.in> References: <4fea838f0907242150n7d7b878dkf7c3ab4694de5727@mail.gmail.com> <4fea838f0907242155h6feaa77bx642318d8f79a7745@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B509B.8040504@fedoraproject.org> <4A6B5CF1.9070803@binaryvibes.co.in> <4A6B5E3E.8020401@fedoraproject.org> <4A6BF6A0.5080400@binaryvibes.co.in> Message-ID: <4A6CB5C5.8060701@fedoraproject.org> On 07/26/2009 11:54 AM, Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote: > > Thanks for the links. I am aware of various groups where anyone could > join and help the project. Currently, I am hard pressed for time. > I am trying to familiarize myself with package management. I will be > glad to spend few hours every week in this regard. That would be very welcome. There has also been some work done on automating things that can be automated https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/ I have been reading > the documentation from the Wiki and other places to learn about package > management. I will be able to join the group once I get the basics right. If you want any help, feel free to ask. > It is surprising to see only 33 people in the list of people wanting to > support Extended Life Cycle. It's a recent proposal and not many people willing to do the work involved in any of these matters. It has always been the case. Rahul From sameep at tuxwire.com Mon Jul 27 01:47:54 2009 From: sameep at tuxwire.com (Sameep) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:17:54 +0530 (IST) Subject: [fedora-india] [OT] Setting up an Online Linux Store In-Reply-To: <3170f42f0907261112y22512a5q6e76bba52db1f7ce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <10097866.571248659273497.JavaMail.sameep@sameep-desktop> Hi , I mean a store selling only Linux Distros .. an possibly merchandise later on.. Regards Sameep ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debarshi Ray" To: fedora-india at redhat.com Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 11:42:53 PM GMT +05:30 Chennai, Kolkata, Mumbai, New Delhi Subject: Re: [fedora-india] [OT] Setting up an Online Linux Store > There are a few people selling distros however noboy has a dedicated store yet. What do you mean by "a dedicated store"? Cheers, Debarshi -- One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an imaginary part. -- Andrew Koenig _______________________________________________ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 02:02:07 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:32:07 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? In-Reply-To: <1248585099.4170.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252139k73c4f2ddn644d6b60aeb57dfa@mail.gmail.com> <1248585099.4170.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <35586fc00907261902y4f88db23m8feeee2ce3ef8755@mail.gmail.com> Here's an example from real-life. I took a fancy to a product from a consumer goods company, checked up their websites for the nearest stores, paid a visit to all of them and, found out that this particular product is not launched for my region at all. That specific bit of information was available at the larger store who pointed me to the contact details for their head office. So, the question was - what about my consumer experience (going round and round without getting what I wanted) and, did I eventually buy it ? I am sure that the answer would be fairly obvious. Firstly, thank you Ankur for taking time out to write the concerns. As much we have talked about it, having a single mail helps. This is much appreciated. On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > A lot of ambassadors lack accountability. I suggest a weeding process to > weed ones that are inactive. I know this has been done before, but > housekeeping is periodic, isn't it? > > Since becoming a fedora ambassador is a voluntary activity,requiring no > qualification, a lot of folks join up just so they can call themselves > "Fedora Ambassador in India" without paying *any* respect to it's > duties. The decision to become a Fedora Ambassador is voluntary, but not for a moment let us delude ourselves by thinking that it requires no qualification. An Ambassador is an evangelist and, an evangelist is a person who knows as much about the product/technology as do the developers. That takes a lot of doing and, requires investing time. A self-initiated disciplined approach towards becoming an excellent Ambassador goes further than an externally imposed discipline coupled with the stick of censure. There can be many good reasons as to why a listed Ambassador might choose to be silent and unresponsive. And, they are all valid reasons. However, because he/she is an Ambassador, it is their duty to inform the Ambassadors about their going on leave of absence so that the end user experience is not hindered. Susmit has worked hard within the FAmSCo to put in place a system somewhat similar to what you describe which is aimed at a single objective - ensuring that the listed Ambassadors are the "active" Ambassadors. I would like to give the system some time to show results. It does derive from the "provenpackager" model and, I believe that it would help us grow a better community of Ambassadors. > As starters,for eg(s), > > - IIRC, all ambassadors were required to post on their blogs (every 3 > months atleast , I think?) regarding what work they've been doing? > - How many of them even take part in discussions on this list? > - How many of them are helping spread Fedora or contributing otherwise? Good catch :) I haven't been that regular myself. I think I should start putting out on blogs that discussions which are initiating various good stuff. > There are a lot of other duties that need to be fulfilled which are > going *ignored*. As a side effect, *we* end up asking questions such > as,"If there are *so many* ambassadors, why isn't the LC program > working??" The LC program has its own reasons for being the way it is and, frankly, it has been one issue that we have been trying to grapple without much apparent success. > Replying to a mail saying "Yes, I'm an ambassador and I've been doing > this recently."(which there is no way of confirming) is not enough to > "qualify" someone as an ambassador. Most folks only wake up to reply to > that one mail so they can keep the "FA in India". I tend to follow the thumb-rule that the Ambassadors will not be fibbing. Or, they will write about what they have been doing actually. Of course, it turns out that now and then I do get pointed to tall claims. Not much can be done besides the fact that the specific Ambassador loses the currency of trust on my books. The point is, if someone is doing, they are trying to solve problems and, such things are best done through a discussion with the peer group. [snip] > There was a "probation period" for new ambassadors too. I haven't quite > seen it implemented. Ahh ! That means we are doing a good job of implementing it :) ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From sankarshan at fedoraproject.org Mon Jul 27 03:54:08 2009 From: sankarshan at fedoraproject.org (sankarshan) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:24:08 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Blogs and photos from the NIT-Agartala event ? Message-ID: <35586fc00907262054p3186a7fcpcd4e58b54e0133c4@mail.gmail.com> I noticed only Shakthi blogging - what about others who are at NIT-Agartala ? /sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 04:08:03 2009 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:38:03 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [OT] Setting up an Online Linux Store In-Reply-To: <10097866.571248659273497.JavaMail.sameep@sameep-desktop> References: <3170f42f0907261112y22512a5q6e76bba52db1f7ce@mail.gmail.com> <10097866.571248659273497.JavaMail.sameep@sameep-desktop> Message-ID: <3170f42f0907262108h5582982ftef461978a9661cec@mail.gmail.com> > I mean a store selling only Linux Distros .. an possibly merchandise later on.. There are a few of them already. I bought a Fedora 10 DVD from one such online store. Cheers, Debarshi -- One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an imaginary part. -- Andrew Koenig From electromech at electromech.info Mon Jul 27 05:11:06 2009 From: electromech at electromech.info (Nilesh J. Vaghela) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:41:06 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Sorry State of Affairs with F11 Installer In-Reply-To: <4A6CB5C5.8060701@fedoraproject.org> References: <4fea838f0907242150n7d7b878dkf7c3ab4694de5727@mail.gmail.com> <4fea838f0907242155h6feaa77bx642318d8f79a7745@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B509B.8040504@fedoraproject.org> <4A6B5CF1.9070803@binaryvibes.co.in> <4A6B5E3E.8020401@fedoraproject.org> <4A6BF6A0.5080400@binaryvibes.co.in> <4A6CB5C5.8060701@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4A6D36EA.2090509@electromech.info> Hi, I have some excellent experience with F10 and F11. We have install F10 more than 50 desktops and working like charm. Every thing works like as expected and with good stability. Yes we do have lots of dual boot also with M$. No problem till date at all. :) Just sharing our experience. Now we are extending it to more than 100 thing client on either xrdp or LTSP5. -- Nilesh Vaghela ElectroMech Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner Ahmedabad: 404,Maulik Arcad,Nr. Mansi cross Road,Satellite Rd Baroda : 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj www.electromech.info From aveeksn at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 05:33:29 2009 From: aveeksn at gmail.com (Aveek Sen) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:03:29 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Re: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 23, Issue 37 In-Reply-To: <20090727041658.221AE61B43C@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20090727041658.221AE61B43C@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:24:08 +0530 > From: sankarshan > Subject: [fedora-india] Blogs and photos from the NIT-Agartala event ? > To: The Fedora Project Community in India > Message-ID: > ? ? ? ?<35586fc00907262054p3186a7fcpcd4e58b54e0133c4 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I noticed only Shakthi blogging - what about others who are at NIT-Agartala ? > > /sankarshan > > -- I will be putting it up by this week. I am also mailing out the recordings DVDs to Rangeen ; he said it will be edited & put up as Shakthi's Fedora lectures. Regards, Aveek From kushaldas at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 05:57:04 2009 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:27:04 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Mailing list guidelines [WAS Re: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 23, Issue 37] Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Aveek Sen wrote: > > I will be putting it up by this week. I am also mailing out the > recordings DVDs to Rangeen ; he said it will be edited & put up as > Shakthi's Fedora lectures. > By any chance you read this [1] ?. Please read it. [1] http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/mailing-list-etiquette.pdf Kushal -- http://fedoraproject.org http://kushaldas.in From steve at lonetwin.net Mon Jul 27 09:42:39 2009 From: steve at lonetwin.net (steve) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:12:39 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [OT] Setting up an Online Linux Store In-Reply-To: <3170f42f0907262108h5582982ftef461978a9661cec@mail.gmail.com> References: <3170f42f0907261112y22512a5q6e76bba52db1f7ce@mail.gmail.com> <10097866.571248659273497.JavaMail.sameep@sameep-desktop> <3170f42f0907262108h5582982ftef461978a9661cec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A6D768F.7020003@lonetwin.net> Debarshi Ray wrote: >> I mean a store selling only Linux Distros .. an possibly merchandise later on.. > > There are a few of them already. I bought a Fedora 10 DVD from one > such online store. > Yep. In fact, as far as Indian vendors are concerned, Although not exclusively Linux distros, GT Enterprises, based out of banglore have been doing this thing for ages: http://gtcdrom.com/ cheers, - steve -- why procrastinate when you can perendinate ? -------------------- random non tech spiel: http://lonetwin.blogspot.com/ tech randomness: http://lonetwin.blogspot.com/ what i'm stumbling into: http://lonetwin.blogspot.com/ -------------------- From pavithran.s at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 10:44:15 2009 From: pavithran.s at gmail.com (pavithran) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:44:15 +0100 Subject: [fedora-india] [OT] Setting up an Online Linux Store In-Reply-To: <4A6D768F.7020003@lonetwin.net> References: <3170f42f0907261112y22512a5q6e76bba52db1f7ce@mail.gmail.com> <10097866.571248659273497.JavaMail.sameep@sameep-desktop> <3170f42f0907262108h5582982ftef461978a9661cec@mail.gmail.com> <4A6D768F.7020003@lonetwin.net> Message-ID: 2009/7/27 steve > > GT Enterprises, based out of banglore have been doing this thing for ages: > http://gtcdrom.com/ GT reminds me of 2004 :D I remember buying Suse 9 DVD ( double sided disk ) + 2 books all in nice packaging for 999 rupees . Actually suse 9 was priced for 5,000 Rupees which I got for discount because Suse 9.2 was released. Hence if you keep a distro store . You have to less older versions for cheap :P Regards, Pavithran -- pavithran sakamuri www.pavithran.org From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 10:58:32 2009 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:28:32 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Sorry State of Affairs with F11 Installer In-Reply-To: <4fea838f0907242155h6feaa77bx642318d8f79a7745@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fea838f0907242150n7d7b878dkf7c3ab4694de5727@mail.gmail.com> <4fea838f0907242155h6feaa77bx642318d8f79a7745@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3170f42f0907270358v6acebe4ehe19b9eb8359794e9@mail.gmail.com> Did you encounter any of these? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/494150 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/505816 If so can you please comment on how to reproduce it in Bugzilla? Cheers, Debarshi -- One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an imaginary part. -- Andrew Koenig From sameep at tuxwire.com Mon Jul 27 12:34:48 2009 From: sameep at tuxwire.com (Sameep) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:04:48 +0530 (IST) Subject: [fedora-india] [OT] Setting up an Online Linux Store In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <13597754.991248698085003.JavaMail.sameep@sameep-desktop> ----- Original Message ----- From: "pavithran" To: fedora-india at redhat.com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:14:15 PM GMT +05:30 Chennai, Kolkata, Mumbai, New Delhi Subject: Re: [fedora-india] [OT] Setting up an Online Linux Store 2009/7/27 steve > > GT Enterprises, based out of banglore have been doing this thing for ages: > http://gtcdrom.com/ GT reminds me of 2004 :D I remember buying Suse 9 DVD ( double sided disk ) + 2 books all in nice packaging for 999 rupees . Actually suse 9 was priced for 5,000 Rupees which I got for discount because Suse 9.2 was released. Hence if you keep a distro store . You have to less older versions for cheap :P I would only like to keep current and current - 1 releases. Regards, Sameep From ankit at redhat.com Mon Jul 27 13:12:59 2009 From: ankit at redhat.com (Ankitkumar Rameshchandra Patel) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:42:59 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? In-Reply-To: <35586fc00907261902y4f88db23m8feeee2ce3ef8755@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252139k73c4f2ddn644d6b60aeb57dfa@mail.gmail.com> <1248585099.4170.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907261902y4f88db23m8feeee2ce3ef8755@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A6DA7DB.8020906@redhat.com> sankarshan wrote: > Here's an example from real-life. I took a fancy to a product from a > consumer goods company, checked up their websites for the nearest > stores, paid a visit to all of them and, found out that this > particular product is not launched for my region at all. That specific > bit of information was available at the larger store who pointed me to > the contact details for their head office. So, the question was - what > about my consumer experience (going round and round without getting > what I wanted) and, did I eventually buy it ? > > I am sure that the answer would be fairly obvious. > > Firstly, thank you Ankur for taking time out to write the concerns. As > much we have talked about it, having a single mail helps. This is much > appreciated. > > [snip] >> There was a "probation period" for new ambassadors too. I haven't quite >> seen it implemented. >> > > Ahh ! That means we are doing a good job of implementing it :) > > ~sankarshan > Hi, I am not a Fedora ambassador, but I do contribute to Fedora (and various other) localization project since long time. One of the things I have learned from my localization experience is to always preserve the credits of previous translators. So, their credit is never getting lost irrespective of whether they are active currently or not. Similarly, if there is a way to preserve the credits of the previous ambassadors on the list, would be great I think. I just figured out the link for the list of Fedora Ambassadors: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList , which might be a good place to list the previous ambassadors as well as current active ambassadors. while mapping provided here: https://fedoraproject.org/membership-map/ can work for listing active ambassadors. just in case cleanup happens one can think over it... -- Regards, Ankit Patel http://www.indianoss.org/ http://www.ankit644.com/ From shekhawat.anirudh at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 14:11:50 2009 From: shekhawat.anirudh at gmail.com (Anirudh Singh Shekhawat) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:41:50 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] F11 media for indian ambassador and lug Message-ID: <4A6DB5A6.9090504@gmail.com> Hi This is an inquiry about the f11 medias for indian ambassadors and lugs, Well I'm [1] an ambassador and free media local contact from jaipur and had made a request [2] for the media and have not received the f11 medias yet, and also one of our members of linux users group jaipur had also filed[3] for media for lug but have not received them either. So would someone like to update me about it? regards Adip [1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Acedip [2]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_For_Indian_Ambassadors [3]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_For_Indian_LUGs -- My web home http://acedip.in Linux Users Group Jaipur http://lugj.in What is this Universe ? From what it arises ? Into what does it go? In freedom it arises, In freedom it rests and into freedom it melts away. -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/FA/L/MU/P/S !d s:- a-- C UL P++ L+++ E- W++ N++ o K-- w--- O- M- V PS PE Y PGP t 5 X R tv b DI D G e h+ r- y++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From pavithran.s at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 14:32:17 2009 From: pavithran.s at gmail.com (pavithran) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:32:17 +0100 Subject: [fedora-india] F11 media for indian ambassador and lug In-Reply-To: <4A6DB5A6.9090504@gmail.com> References: <4A6DB5A6.9090504@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2009/7/27 Anirudh Singh Shekhawat : > Well I'm [1] an ambassador and free media local contact from jaipur and had > made a request [2] for the media and have not received the f11 medias yet, > [2]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_For_Indian_Ambassadors On a related note . I was looking at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts#List For the city of Hyderabad there is a ambassador called # E S Srikanth (srikanth4525 at gmail.com) Is he active and does he have fedora 11 DVD's ? Regards, Pavithran -- pavithran sakamuri www.pavithran.org From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 14:43:59 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:13:59 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? In-Reply-To: <4A6DA7DB.8020906@redhat.com> References: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252139k73c4f2ddn644d6b60aeb57dfa@mail.gmail.com> <1248585099.4170.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> <35586fc00907261902y4f88db23m8feeee2ce3ef8755@mail.gmail.com> <4A6DA7DB.8020906@redhat.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00907270743q78d60e2egaa5b48baca5790a8@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Ankitkumar Rameshchandra Patel wrote: > I am not a Fedora ambassador, but I do contribute to Fedora (and various > other) localization project since long time. One of the things I have > learned from my localization experience is to always preserve the credits of > previous translators. So, their credit is never getting lost irrespective of > whether they are active currently or not. Similarly, if there is a way to > preserve the credits of the previous ambassadors on the list, would be great > I think. There was a mail on the Ambassadors list (which I can't find now) which put the statement below in a much nicer way: [0] A Fedora Ambassador is an Ambassador-for-life unless he/she does something that is so completely against the Foundations that we have to review the situation [1] Asking Ambassadors whether they wish to be listed as active/inactive isn't taking credit away I have been at the periphery of localization and, I guess I could pull up a somewhat related example - infrequently we see that certain locales/language teams request a change in leadership asking that a more active member be entrusted with the responsibilities of getting things done. Upon review, such requests are generally granted. I'd guess such a thing happens because the system desires a degree of accountability. It is a valid point that you raise, and, I just wanted to make it clear that this process isn't about erasing credit. I hope that this illustration together with the anecdote I had provided clears the air. ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work Sent from Pune, MH, India From sherry151 at gmail.com Tue Jul 28 06:05:53 2009 From: sherry151 at gmail.com (Rangeen Basu) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:35:53 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What is the easiest way to find an Ambassador near to oneself ? In-Reply-To: <1248591356.4170.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <35586fc00907242301l1c702a1fi8772c8b82dd1bbd@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00907252154l375b753eh3632e6bececc0cb2@mail.gmail.com> <9ca074ea0907252256u12411d2dl6fb1c4baa47a244e@mail.gmail.com> <21f311fd0907252309h47b37612m1375a27b4efec036@mail.gmail.com> <902953.30230.qm@web95110.mail.in2.yahoo.com> <21f311fd0907252339t4e479197yea1360f2b4cf35fa@mail.gmail.com> <1248591356.4170.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On 7/26/09, Ankur Sinha wrote: > hi, > > That's great. I didn't know a clean up was already ongoing. Is there a > wiki page or something for us to know more? > > I'd suggest a quarterly "What I'm doing" report as mandatory for all > ambassadors: > > All you've got to do is mail to the list, with relevant info and > links(some way of knowing that you are actually up to something).Also, > the work should be Fedora oriented. Just being part of an LUG isn't > enough for a Fedora ambassador. > That's one way but not the only way and neither is it a full proof one. While reporting being an essential part of ambassador activity, we can not entirely base the system upon this. A mix of the various ways is a good choice rather. Active ambassadors must be tracked and a record should be kept. That IMHO is a must. I have seen a lot of discussion on this topic but no conclusions yet. Coming to the end user, I have seen, some days back, someone mailed every ambassador he could find but one who replied is not from his location. Rather he helped him find the correct person. Remote assistance is also an effectivve way. Think of Shakthi and me helping out Agartala people to organize the event. What is important is to know what the end user wants and acting accordingly. Still I agree that locational advantage is good but IMHO it is not a must. My mail may sound a little incoherent cause I am having trouble typing from a cafe keyboard which is givng me heel of a time, literally. -- Regards Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury Fedora Ambassador sherry151 at gmail.com From sankarshan at fedoraproject.org Tue Jul 28 11:41:04 2009 From: sankarshan at fedoraproject.org (sankarshan) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:11:04 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Please update http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RegionalTeams/India#Indian_Fedora_Contributors Message-ID: <35586fc00907280441p2e0cbfa8w16d41b515bcb4a86@mail.gmail.com> if you have not done already /sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work Sent from Raleigh, NC, United States From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Jul 29 12:35:25 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:05:25 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [Important] For any budget/media/any other request, you need to open a ticket. Message-ID: Hi, To streamline the process and track it better, we have introduced a trac for fedora-india. If you need money, dvd, t-shirt or anything else, you may create a new ticket here: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-india/ . Please note, you need to log-in with your fas account before you open a ticket, and only you and admins will be able to view your tickets. Thanks for listening. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jul 29 23:42:42 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:12:42 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [Important] For any budget/media/any other request, you need to open a ticket. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <35586fc00907291642u60b7aa45n527157b3f32abfd@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 6:05 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > To streamline the process and track it better, we have introduced a > trac for fedora-india. Thank you Susmit for getting this done. If you are requesting budget/media/misc.stuff for an event, please ensure that you have read point #1 at . And, please do not use SMS-ese English in the trac ticket, it makes it somewhat difficult to decipher. ~sankarshan -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From sameep at tuxwire.com Fri Jul 31 08:26:45 2009 From: sameep at tuxwire.com (Sameep) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:56:45 +0530 (IST) Subject: [fedora-india] [OT] TuxDVDs - Online Linux Distro Store Open Message-ID: <534484.2191249028805244.JavaMail.sameep@sameep-desktop> TuxDVDs is a brand new online store selling Linux , BSD and Solaris Distros . Since its only a couple of days old , it only has 50 distros as of now. However , new Distros are going to be added everyday. Presently , PayPal and Cheque / DD are the only modes of payment , however a Cash On Delivery solution is in the pipeline. All CDs are about Rs. 50 and DVDs about Rs. 100 . The prices may vary a bit since they are pegged to the US Dollar [ A PayPal Requirement ] . Big Distro Packs like Debian are at a discounted price of about Rs. 250. Shipping is at a flat rate of Rs. 50 [Approx], handled by Professional Courier Services and should take a maximum of 3 Working Days. I hope everyone finds it useful. TuxDVDs : The Best Online Distro Store The store is brand new and might have a few bugs. I would be grateful if members of the LUG would be kind enough to point them out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Jul 31 09:24:01 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:54:01 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [OT] TuxDVDs - Online Linux Distro Store Open In-Reply-To: <534484.2191249028805244.JavaMail.sameep@sameep-desktop> References: <534484.2191249028805244.JavaMail.sameep@sameep-desktop> Message-ID: <4A72B831.40403@fedoraproject.org> On 07/31/2009 01:56 PM, Sameep wrote: > > TuxDVDs : The Best Online Distro Store > > The store is brand new and might have a few bugs. I would be grateful if > members of the LUG would be kind enough to point them out. Your about section is empty. Your contact section should include a email address and phone number. All distribution pages should link to their home page. The criteria for "featured products" is not clear.. You should consider including Fedora Electronics Lab in your Fedora section and most importantly you should be very explicit about what regions you are willing to ship to. If this is specific to India, make that clear. You might also consider sharing the profits with the projects in question in some way. Rahul From sameep at tuxwire.com Fri Jul 31 09:52:34 2009 From: sameep at tuxwire.com (Sameep) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:22:34 +0530 (IST) Subject: [fedora-india] [OT] TuxDVDs - Online Linux Distro Store Open In-Reply-To: <4A72B831.40403@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <31804928.121249033952759.JavaMail.sameep@sameep-desktop> ----- "Rahul Sundaram" wrote: | On 07/31/2009 01:56 PM, Sameep wrote: | | > | > TuxDVDs : The Best Online Distro Store | > | > The store is brand new and might have a few bugs. I would be | grateful if | > members of the LUG would be kind enough to point them out. | | Your about section is empty. Your contact section should include a | email | address and phone number. Yes I know . I have to set it up. Its only been 3 days since I started working on it. |All distribution pages should link to their | home page. I'll probably do it once I've finished adding all the distros. I also want to add screenshots to each product. Since its time consuming , I'm going to wait till I have some time. There are quite a few people from the LUG who have shown keen interest in participating. So if I can get someone to help me out , the product pages should be updated in a few days. The criteria for "featured products" is not clear.. You | should consider including Fedora Electronics Lab in your Fedora | section | and most importantly you should be very explicit about what regions | you | are willing to ship to. The shipping regions are mentioned in the Customer Service page along with expected delivery times. One the About page is updated , I'll add it there too. If this is specific to India, make that | clear. | | You might also consider sharing the profits with the projects in | question in some way. This site is not really for profit. However , once I recover the domain and hosting costs , I'll probably use the rest of the money to distribute CDs / DVDs for free. Thanks a lot for your feedback. Appreciated. Please keep it coming. | | Rahul | | _______________________________________________ | Fedora-india mailing list | Fedora-india at redhat.com | https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri Jul 31 14:20:30 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:50:30 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [OT] TuxDVDs - Online Linux Distro Store Open In-Reply-To: <31804928.121249033952759.JavaMail.sameep@sameep-desktop> References: <4A72B831.40403@fedoraproject.org> <31804928.121249033952759.JavaMail.sameep@sameep-desktop> Message-ID: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Sameep wrote: > > ----- "Rahul Sundaram" wrote: > > | On 07/31/2009 01:56 PM, Sameep wrote: > | > | > > | > TuxDVDs : The Best Online Distro Store Please list it at: fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/OnlineVendors thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From sameep at tuxwire.com Fri Jul 31 14:35:00 2009 From: sameep at tuxwire.com (Sameep) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:05:00 +0530 (IST) Subject: [fedora-india] [OT] TuxDVDs - Online Linux Distro Store Open In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <24099325.01249050897629.JavaMail.sameep@sameep-desktop> ----- "susmit shannigrahi" wrote: | On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Sameep wrote: | > | > ----- "Rahul Sundaram" wrote: | > | > | On 07/31/2009 01:56 PM, Sameep wrote: | > | | > | > | > | > TuxDVDs : The Best Online Distro Store | | Please list it at: | fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/OnlineVendors | thanks. | | -- I just listed it. Thanks a lot. Regards, Sameep