From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Sat Jan 2 02:31:39 2010 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 08:01:39 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] CfP for GNUnify10 is now OPEN Message-ID: <35586fc01001011831v21413e8ay22ff6ca59b381ac5@mail.gmail.com> is the URL to visit. Would anyone like to take the lead in doing up a page on the wiki first so that it becomes easier to see the Fedora centric talks that are being proposed ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sat Jan 2 03:55:09 2010 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 09:25:09 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] CfP for GNUnify10 is now OPEN In-Reply-To: <35586fc01001011831v21413e8ay22ff6ca59b381ac5@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc01001011831v21413e8ay22ff6ca59b381ac5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:01 AM, sankarshan wrote: > is the URL to visit. Would anyone > like to take the lead in doing up a page on the wiki first so that it > becomes easier to see the Fedora centric talks that are being proposed https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Gnunify_2010 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-india/ticket/54 Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sun Jan 3 18:55:24 2010 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 00:25:24 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Roshan Singh wrote: > Hi all, > I am a student from National Institute of Technology, Durgapur. We organise > a FOSS festival, Mukti(http://mkti.in) every year. Last year we had some > Fedora contributors here during our fest. In continuation with that we are > hopeful to get some more speakers from Fedora. > > 1. I would like to know if we can get to some speaker to show their projects > like a small hack session with the hope that we may get some contributors to > the project. We will provide the necessary requirement for conducting the > session > > 2. There is a panel discussion around the topic "Free software. Why is it > important for students like us to contribute to them. Software Patents.". > The number of speakers participating in this event will be 3-4. > > Date: 5-7 Feb 2010. > > Timings of all the events are yet to be decided. > > We are open to suggestions. Can you please open a ticket here? It will be easier to track. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-india/ -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From singh.roshan08 at gmail.com Mon Jan 4 04:16:12 2010 From: singh.roshan08 at gmail.com (Roshan Singh) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 09:46:12 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have created a ticket for the same. Link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-india/ticket/56 -- Roshan Kumar Singh http://roshansingh.wordpress.com http://sourceforge.net/projects/gscribble -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It will be easier to track. > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-india/ and, the FAQ is at -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay From debayanin at gmail.com Mon Jan 4 09:26:35 2010 From: debayanin at gmail.com (Debayan Banerjee) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 14:56:35 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010 In-Reply-To: <35586fc00912310431r36455035r83dbd63adddc93e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00912310431r36455035r83dbd63adddc93e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2009/12/31 sankarshan > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Roshan Singh > wrote: > > > I am a student from National Institute of Technology, Durgapur. We > organise > > a FOSS festival, Mukti(http://mkti.in) every year. Last year we had some > > Fedora contributors here during our fest. In continuation with that we > are > > hopeful to get some more speakers from Fedora. > > Would it be possible for you to talk a bit more about whether and how > the presence last year was helpful ? > Fedora folks last year could not reach out to too many people last year because of some logistical difficulties. Even then the impact was pretty good. I am sure that this year a normal Fedora Activity Day will be extremely successful. Just make sure they are given full access to all resources and take care of logistics (stalls/DVDs) well. -- Regards, Debayan Banerjee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Tue Jan 5 18:22:13 2010 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 23:52:13 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora Classroom (Ambassador training) reminder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: FYI ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Max Spevack Date: Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:49 PM Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Classroom (Ambassador training) reminder To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Hi Ambassadors, For any new ambassadors who are interested in attending the Fedora Classoom session on what it means to be a Fedora Ambassadors, and some tips and tricks for how to be a good one, here is your reminder for the next class. Thursday January 7th at 1500 UTC in #fedora-classroom on freenode IRC. Fixed time and date link: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=1&day=7&year=2010&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 Help on IRC: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo --Max -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Thu Jan 7 10:28:50 2010 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 15:58:50 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010 In-Reply-To: References: <35586fc00912310431r36455035r83dbd63adddc93e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc01001070228p5559d43q63dbdf0cbead8a26@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Debayan Banerjee wrote: > Fedora folks last year could not reach out to too many people last year > because of some logistical difficulties. Even then the impact was pretty > good. That is the reason I asked for a quantitative assessment of the impact. On hindsight, last year we tried to do a lot of things (somewhat along the lines of being everything to everybody). Personally, I don't think we actually had success on that. To have a "normal" FAD, you'd need to have folks who spent the last year working on something "Fedora". Transplanting external resources makes for good show-n-tell, but most of the time it doesn't produce anything significant. > I am sure that? this year a normal Fedora Activity Day will be extremely > successful. Just make sure they are given full access to all resources and > take care of logistics (stalls/DVDs) well. I take it that NIT is an institution - it should be able to set up a Fedora mirror and, allow local installs. I don't see the surging need for DVDs. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Thu Jan 7 10:29:45 2010 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 15:59:45 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] CfP for GNUnify10 is now OPEN In-Reply-To: References: <35586fc01001011831v21413e8ay22ff6ca59b381ac5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc01001070229l4e0b3cacsbdd4e7ed19d24e99@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:25 AM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:01 AM, sankarshan wrote: >> is the URL to visit. Would anyone >> like to take the lead in doing up a page on the wiki first so that it >> becomes easier to see the Fedora centric talks that are being proposed > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Gnunify_2010 > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-india/ticket/54 Thank you Susmit (although I'd have preferred someone other than you to be doing it). So, who is going to lead this and, be accountable for the Fedora presence ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Thu Jan 7 14:50:32 2010 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 20:20:32 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora Classroom (Ambassador training) reminder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1262875832.14403.0.camel@localhost> hi, quick reminder, the session is on in 15 minutes at #fedora-classroom regards, Ankur From singh.roshan08 at gmail.com Thu Jan 7 16:48:32 2010 From: singh.roshan08 at gmail.com (Roshan Singh) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 22:18:32 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010 In-Reply-To: <35586fc01001070228p5559d43q63dbdf0cbead8a26@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00912310431r36455035r83dbd63adddc93e5@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc01001070228p5559d43q63dbdf0cbead8a26@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:58 PM, sankarshan wrote: > On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Debayan Banerjee > wrote: > > > Fedora folks last year could not reach out to too many people last year > > because of some logistical difficulties. Even then the impact was pretty > > good. > > That is the reason I asked for a quantitative assessment of the > impact. On hindsight, last year we tried to do a lot of things > (somewhat along the lines of being everything to everybody). > Personally, I don't think we actually had success on that. > > What sort of assessment do you expect. > > I take it that NIT is an institution - it should be able to set up a > Fedora mirror and, allow local installs. I don't see the surging need > for DVDs. > DVDs are distributed among the students who come from outside during Mukti. But even if we dont get DVDs we will try to manage. However we need a speaker to the audience who can show some stuff to encourage the audience. In this context i would like to mention that Debayan, Shreyank and me were moved by Kushal's visit to our college. Previously I thought about using it only, but whatever little bit I have done till now was a result of his visit. -- Roshan Kumar Singh http://roshansingh.wordpress.com http://sourceforge.net/projects/gscribble -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Thu Jan 7 18:40:41 2010 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 20:40:41 +0200 Subject: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010 In-Reply-To: References: <35586fc00912310431r36455035r83dbd63adddc93e5@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc01001070228p5559d43q63dbdf0cbead8a26@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3170f42f1001071040n59429a11o9ca1e59841ac1746@mail.gmail.com> > But even if we dont get DVDs we will try to manage. However we need a > speaker to the audience who can show some stuff to encourage the audience. > In this context i would like to mention that Debayan, Shreyank and me were > moved by Kushal's visit to our college. > > Previously I thought about using it only, but whatever little bit I have > done till now was a result of his visit. So why don't _you_ take Kushal's role this time? Cheers, Debarshi -- One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an imaginary part. -- Andrew Koenig From aanjhan at gmail.com Thu Jan 7 18:59:15 2010 From: aanjhan at gmail.com (Aanjhan R) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 19:59:15 +0100 Subject: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010 In-Reply-To: <3170f42f1001071040n59429a11o9ca1e59841ac1746@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00912310431r36455035r83dbd63adddc93e5@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc01001070228p5559d43q63dbdf0cbead8a26@mail.gmail.com> <3170f42f1001071040n59429a11o9ca1e59841ac1746@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Debarshi Ray wrote: > So why don't _you_ take Kushal's role this time? Is there a replacement for our ever enthusiastic Kushal? -- A From debayanin at gmail.com Thu Jan 7 19:12:17 2010 From: debayanin at gmail.com (Debayan Banerjee) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 00:42:17 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010 In-Reply-To: References: <35586fc00912310431r36455035r83dbd63adddc93e5@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc01001070228p5559d43q63dbdf0cbead8a26@mail.gmail.com> <3170f42f1001071040n59429a11o9ca1e59841ac1746@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2010/1/8 Aanjhan R > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Debarshi Ray > wrote: > > So why don't _you_ take Kushal's role this time? > > Is there a replacement for our ever enthusiastic Kushal? > On a more serious note, Roshan is desperately trying to get Fedora folks to talk at Mukti. I think we can assume that he has considered the idea of he himself being a speaker, and also rejected it. 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URL: From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Thu Jan 7 23:07:21 2010 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 04:37:21 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010 In-Reply-To: References: <35586fc00912310431r36455035r83dbd63adddc93e5@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc01001070228p5559d43q63dbdf0cbead8a26@mail.gmail.com> <3170f42f1001071040n59429a11o9ca1e59841ac1746@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc01001071507t11ce650lda8bb42d74f0a47a@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Debayan Banerjee wrote: > > > 2010/1/8 Aanjhan R >> >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Debarshi Ray >> wrote: >> > So why don't _you_ take Kushal's role this time? >> >> Is there a replacement for our ever enthusiastic Kushal? > > On a more serious note, Roshan is desperately trying to get Fedora folks to > talk at Mukti. I think we can assume that he has considered the idea of he > himself being a speaker, and also rejected it. I have two concerns about the lines above. One, the notion of Fedora folks from outside having to talk to a crowd of students (which I interpret as in-house experts aren't considered glamorous) and, two, the fact that since the last time, barring Debayan, Shreyank and Roshan, there haven't been newer faces coming up from NIT-Durgapur. Think that through. If Kushal did make an impact at all, why did it have to be just 3 people in, I assume a batch of 200 ? If you have an idea why this is so, including the now-established notion of "cool hai", I'd be interested in hearing. Personally, I am all for participation in college events to raise awareness. But, we have to accept a couple of things: * awareness is a good measure in institutions which have no FOSS culture * participation requires someone to volunteer their time * participation costs money In other to provide a reasonable justification for the last two, there needs to be a follow-through of the first item. Awareness -> participation + contribution. Along the lines of what I did ask Shreyank in December - where are the folks from Roshan's batch and, other batches ? > Respecting his decision, would it now be possible for a Fedora contributor > to speak there? I haven't read about anyone volunteering to be at Mukti and requesting sponsorship to travel. If there is anyone interested, now would be a time to use the ticket on fedorahosted.org/fedora-india. If the budget permits, it would be easy to sponsor someone to visit Durgapur, we'd need a ticket on the trac, an idea of what the presence would be for and, the estimated cost of making that happen. As regards media, I'd suggest that you sell them. The monies should come of some use. Pressing media in bulk to give away does not seem to have the same effect. The other option I can think of is getting in touch with LFY as a partner of some sort at the event where they sponsor media. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Fri Jan 8 03:54:07 2010 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 09:24:07 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [Follow Up] Fedora Classroom (Ambassador training) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1262922847.14403.25.camel@localhost> Hi, The follow up: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-classroom/2010-01-07/fedora-classroom.2010-01-07-15.01.html http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-classroom/2010-01-07/fedora-classroom.2010-01-07-15.01.log.html An observation: I did not see familiar faces from the Fedora India attend the meeting. I'm going to ask a question here: "Is it possible for a hundred Ambassadors[1] to be busy at the same time?" If they weren't busy, what were they doing? Why weren't they there? Even *if* all of the 100 were busy simultaneously by some unimaginable coincidence ( O_o ), Max taking out time to take a class for Ambassadors *in person*, should have made the importance of the class very very clear.( At least clear enough to get a few folks to reschedule and attend the class). The session lasted only an hour and a half FYI. - It was a great chance to meet up with Ambassadors over the world and get to know them. - Max talked about the *role of an Ambassador*, something that we've had frequent discussions over. - He made it clear on what you're supposed to say when you represent Fedora, at conferences etc. Isn't that another point that we were discussing? There was a lot of other stuff that I learnt there (and I'm not a new Ambassador). Too bad folks decided to give it a miss. Logs are never the same as attending the meet itself IMO. regards, Ankur [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList#India_.28116.29 From debayanin at gmail.com Fri Jan 8 04:43:11 2010 From: debayanin at gmail.com (Debayan Banerjee) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 10:13:11 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010 In-Reply-To: <35586fc01001071507t11ce650lda8bb42d74f0a47a@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00912310431r36455035r83dbd63adddc93e5@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc01001070228p5559d43q63dbdf0cbead8a26@mail.gmail.com> <3170f42f1001071040n59429a11o9ca1e59841ac1746@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc01001071507t11ce650lda8bb42d74f0a47a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2010/1/8 sankarshan > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Debayan Banerjee > wrote: > > > > > > 2010/1/8 Aanjhan R > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Debarshi Ray > >> wrote: > >> > So why don't _you_ take Kushal's role this time? > >> > >> Is there a replacement for our ever enthusiastic Kushal? > > > > On a more serious note, Roshan is desperately trying to get Fedora folks > to > > talk at Mukti. I think we can assume that he has considered the idea of > he > > himself being a speaker, and also rejected it. > > I have two concerns about the lines above. One, the notion of Fedora > folks from outside having to talk to a crowd of students > I would like to ask Arindam and Subhodip if they will be in Durgapur at the time of Mukti. > barring Debayan, Shreyank and > Roshan, > You forgot Rangeen. In other to provide a reasonable justification for the last two, there > needs to be a follow-through of the first item. Awareness -> > participation + contribution. > I was thinking on the lines of having a hackfest this time. We could devote an entire day where the first half is spent in a workshop where people learn a particular technology, and the second half is spent fixing bugs in some project, or adding new features. There has to be good planning regarding the semantics of this hackfest though. We need to figure out what application we want to hack, and what expertise it requires. Once people touch base with the code itself, and see it running on their desktops, that should pull more people into the community. > > Along the lines of what I did ask Shreyank in December - where are the > folks from Roshan's batch and, other batches ? > When I left college last year, there were 2 competing trends that my batch had infused. One was free software, where Shreyank and I had made some inroads, and the second was TopCoder or similar online programming judges where Swapnil Sonawane and Rajat achieved milestones. As it turns out, Swapnil and Rajat ended up getting jobs on campus that paid the best (upto 3 times what Shreyank or I get!!). This has pulled in a lot of people into the programming contest arena. Not enough has happened in the free software field though. I think it is of critical importance that Shreyank gives a talk this year. 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Indeed I did and, my apologies to Rangeen on that score. > When I left college last year, there were 2 competing trends that my batch > had infused. One was free software, where Shreyank and I had made some > inroads, and the second was TopCoder or similar online programming judges > where Swapnil Sonawane and Rajat achieved milestones. As it turns out, > Swapnil and Rajat ended up getting jobs on campus that paid the best (upto 3 > times what Shreyank or I get!!). I might not be comprehending this properly. Why would participating in online coding contests be a deterrent to contributing to Free and Open Source Software ? Although, considering the part within parenthesis, if that is how it is projected, will obviously skew the participation in a way that nothing can counter. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay From shakthimaan at gmail.com Fri Jan 8 06:16:00 2010 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:46:00 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [Follow Up] Fedora Classroom (Ambassador training) In-Reply-To: <1262922847.14403.25.camel@localhost> References: <1262922847.14403.25.camel@localhost> Message-ID: Hi, --- On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: | Even *if* all of the 100 were busy simultaneously by some unimaginable | coincidence ( O_o ), Max taking out time to take a class for Ambassadors | *in person*, should have made the importance of the class very very | clear. \-- Volunteers who join a project are those who have interest or a need to contribute to the project, and not because it is forced onto them. One cannot force anything on anyone for that matter. What can be done is to motivate and create the interest, and help them along the way. If people have joined because of any other reason, then it must be looked into seriously. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri Jan 8 06:58:25 2010 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 12:28:25 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010 In-Reply-To: <35586fc01001072055y72d2a64aqfb1ddc64fcdf1384@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc01001070228p5559d43q63dbdf0cbead8a26@mail.gmail.com> <3170f42f1001071040n59429a11o9ca1e59841ac1746@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc01001071507t11ce650lda8bb42d74f0a47a@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc01001072055y72d2a64aqfb1ddc64fcdf1384@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Success can not be measured in such a short time. Let a decade pass and look back. Take into account money/fun/identity/knowledge and Other things that you received and there wont be doubts. Money is a very important thing but so is living your life in your own terms. (I am feeling philosophical today :) ) On 1/8/10, sankarshan wrote: > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Debayan Banerjee > wrote: > >> I would like to ask Arindam and Subhodip if they will be in Durgapur at >> the >> time of Mukti. > > Additionally, please ask what they would like to talk about and > show-off during Mukti if they are in Durgapur. > >>> >>> barring Debayan, Shreyank and >>> Roshan, >> >> You forgot Rangeen. > > Indeed I did and, my apologies to Rangeen on that score. > >> When I left college last year, there were 2 competing trends that my batch >> had infused. One was free software, where Shreyank and I had made some >> inroads, and the second was TopCoder or similar online programming judges >> where Swapnil Sonawane and Rajat achieved milestones. As it turns out, >> Swapnil and Rajat ended up getting jobs on campus that paid the best (upto >> 3 >> times what Shreyank or I get!!). > > I might not be comprehending this properly. Why would participating in > online coding contests be a deterrent to contributing to Free and Open > Source Software ? Although, considering the part within parenthesis, > if that is how it is projected, will obviously skew the participation > in a way that nothing can counter. > > > > > -- > sankarshan mukhopadhyay > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From aanjhan at gmail.com Fri Jan 8 08:25:09 2010 From: aanjhan at gmail.com (Aanjhan R) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:25:09 +0100 Subject: [fedora-india] Project FOSS properly - was [Re: request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010] Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:55 AM, sankarshan wrote: >> When I left college last year, there were 2 competing trends that my batch >> had infused. One was free software, where Shreyank and I had made some >> inroads, and the second was TopCoder or similar online programming judges >> where Swapnil Sonawane and Rajat achieved milestones. As it turns out, >> Swapnil and Rajat ended up getting jobs on campus that paid the best (upto 3 >> times what Shreyank or I get!!). > > I might not be comprehending this properly. Why would participating in > online coding contests be a deterrent to contributing to Free and Open > Source Software ? Although, considering the part within parenthesis, > if that is how it is projected, will obviously skew the participation > in a way that nothing can counter. On this note, I would like to add something. Not related to the topic but related to the thing in brackets of Debayan's email. I agree money is very important but as 'i-feel-philosophical-today-susmit' points ot its a way you lead your life also matters. I wouldn't have quit my well paying corporate job to take up research. I would be easily getting 8L per annum now plus some overseas travel. yummy! Now I am a student and intend to go for a PhD which most 'MBAs' term it 'live-like-a-beggar' for 4 years. But well, I know I am developing the roots like a banyan tree to soar great heights. And its all about how you project. I think you have forgotten the '3-emails' sent by SM to dgplug list. I bring it up again. http://www.tuxmaniac.com/blog/2008/11/03/foss-education-career-skill-development-the-relationship/ Regards, Aanjhan From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Fri Jan 8 09:29:09 2010 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:29:09 +0200 Subject: [fedora-india] Project FOSS properly - was [Re: request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3170f42f1001080129v4353ce5k52015183de0218e@mail.gmail.com> > I agree money > is very important but as 'i-feel-philosophical-today-susmit' points ot > its a way you lead your life also matters. If people realized this then the number of engineers (or poultry chicken) being churned out by India would go down by 80% and life would be so much more beautiful in so many different ways. Obviously life is not ideal, people do not realize this (maybe they never will), etc. etc.. Cheers, Debarshi -- One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an imaginary part. -- Andrew Koenig From stephaniedasgupta at gmail.com Fri Jan 8 16:29:25 2010 From: stephaniedasgupta at gmail.com (Stephanie Das Gupta) Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:59:25 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010 In-Reply-To: <35586fc01001072055y72d2a64aqfb1ddc64fcdf1384@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00912310431r36455035r83dbd63adddc93e5@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc01001070228p5559d43q63dbdf0cbead8a26@mail.gmail.com> <3170f42f1001071040n59429a11o9ca1e59841ac1746@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc01001071507t11ce650lda8bb42d74f0a47a@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc01001072055y72d2a64aqfb1ddc64fcdf1384@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B475D65.50200@gmail.com> sankarshan wrote: > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Debayan Banerjee wrote: > > >> I would like to ask Arindam and Subhodip if they will be in Durgapur at the >> time of Mukti. >> > > Additionally, please ask what they would like to talk about and > show-off during Mukti if they are in Durgapur. > > I suggest you check with Subhodip and Arindam because from what I have heard from IDG they have been called by TCS up to join at end of January and will be stationed in Ahmedabad. ~ Stephanie ~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sherry151 at gmail.com Fri Jan 8 17:39:12 2010 From: sherry151 at gmail.com (Rangeen Basu) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 23:09:12 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010 In-Reply-To: <4B475D65.50200@gmail.com> References: <35586fc01001070228p5559d43q63dbdf0cbead8a26@mail.gmail.com> <3170f42f1001071040n59429a11o9ca1e59841ac1746@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc01001071507t11ce650lda8bb42d74f0a47a@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc01001072055y72d2a64aqfb1ddc64fcdf1384@mail.gmail.com> <4B475D65.50200@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Stephanie Das Gupta wrote: > I suggest you check with Subhodip and Arindam because from what I have heard > from IDG they have been called by TCS up to join at end of January and will > be stationed in Ahmedabad. That is true. One thing I would like to add is that people are forgetting about our ever enthusiastic Ratnadeep. He is a Fedora contributor and is also a good speaker. Last I checked, he was working on the FedEx project and could very well get a hackfest organized around it. Copying Ratnadeep in case he is not going through the mailing list. -- Regards Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury Fedora Ambassador sherry151 at gmail.com Sent from Bangalore, KA, India From syamcr at gmail.com Sat Jan 9 02:10:15 2010 From: syamcr at gmail.com (Syam Krishnan) Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 07:40:15 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Upgrading gcc from source on Fedora / RHEL Message-ID: <4B47E587.1080207@gmail.com> Hello Is it possible to upgrade gcc on an older Fedora (F6, for example) or RHEL 5 system by compiling it from sources? My doubt is whether it will automatically replace with "glibc" or will I have to upgrade that too by compiling from sources? Or don't I need to bother about glibc at all? Somebody hinted that "binutils" will also need to be rebuilt with the new gcc. Is that true? Any help is highly appreciated. Syam From shakthimaan at gmail.com Sat Jan 9 05:23:56 2010 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 10:53:56 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Upgrading gcc from source on Fedora / RHEL In-Reply-To: <4B47E587.1080207@gmail.com> References: <4B47E587.1080207@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, --- On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Syam Krishnan wrote: |?Is it possible to upgrade gcc on an older Fedora (F6, for example) or RHEL | 5 system by compiling it from sources? \-- You can. If the dependency packages are compatible with the gcc you are upgrading you can re-use them, or you will need to re-compile the dependency packages themselves. --- | My doubt is whether it will | automatically replace with "glibc" \-- Replace? Whatever is installed on your system doesn't change unless you uninstall the packages. You can have multiple versions of a package installed in /usr/local, for example. --- | Or don't I need to bother about glibc at all? | Somebody hinted that "binutils" will also need to be rebuilt with the new | gcc. Is that true? \-- When building a gcc compiler, there are dependency packages. The development/release cycle of these dependent packages is independent of each other. So, not all releases will be able to produce a compiler for you. See Dan Kegel's matrix (for building cross-compilers), for example: http://kegel.com/crosstool/crosstool-0.43/buildlogs/ SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From syamcr at gmail.com Sat Jan 9 05:54:47 2010 From: syamcr at gmail.com (Syam Krishnan) Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:24:47 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Upgrading gcc from source on Fedora / RHEL In-Reply-To: References: <4B47E587.1080207@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B481A27.1020507@gmail.com> On 01/09/2010 10:53 AM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > Hi, > > --- On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Syam Krishnan wrote: > | Is it possible to upgrade gcc on an older Fedora (F6, for example) or RHEL > | 5 system by compiling it from sources? > \-- > > You can. If the dependency packages are compatible with the gcc you > are upgrading you can re-use them, or you will need to re-compile the > dependency packages themselves. > Thanks for the info. I was trying to identify which are these dependent packages. glibc seems to be one. binutils too is perhaps sensitive to gcc/glibc version. Are there any other packages I should be specifically worried about? Syam From shakthimaan at gmail.com Sat Jan 9 06:21:36 2010 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 11:51:36 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Upgrading gcc from source on Fedora / RHEL In-Reply-To: <4B481A27.1020507@gmail.com> References: <4B47E587.1080207@gmail.com> <4B481A27.1020507@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, --- On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Syam Krishnan wrote: | Thanks for the info. I was trying to identify which are these dependent | packages. glibc seems to be one. binutils too is perhaps sensitive to | gcc/glibc version. \-- My points were relevant for cross-builds. But, there is no harm in trying to build gcc first, just to see what you might get. --- | Are there any other packages I should be specifically | worried about? \-- Also refer: http://gcc.gnu.org/install/build.html SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From dashpradipta2006 at gmail.com Sat Jan 9 07:02:11 2010 From: dashpradipta2006 at gmail.com (dash pradipta) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 12:32:11 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Can any one help regarding LVM in RHEL4 Message-ID: <4e9321001001082302x6fdc4e12h6d16f0cef8baf7f3@mail.gmail.com> HI all, I am configuring a Redhat Cluster for horde mail. Each time I reboot the server the LVM gets unavailable. I have to run "/sbin/vgchange -a -f" Is there someone can help me regarding the issue????? Thanks & regards. Pradipta Kumar Dash -- Pradipta Unix/Linux BandIII [ R& D Team ] *ASCII ribbon Sun Microsystem ( )** **- against HTML email X** ** & vCards / \ * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Check lvm portion " # Device mapper & related initialization" Normally rc.sysinit should work well. > > > Thanks & regards. > Pradipta Kumar Dash > > -- > > Pradipta > > Unix/Linux BandIII [ R& D Team ] > > *ASCII ribbon Sun Microsystem ( )** > **- against HTML email X** > ** & vCards / \ * > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > -- -- Nilesh Vaghela ElectroMech Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner 404, Maulik arcade, Above Karnavati Pagarakha Bazar, Nr. Mansi cross Road, Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. www.electromech.info -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: