[Fedora-infrastructure-list] Making RPMS for TurboGears

[Tom Lynema]

Here's a few things I found out while making the rpms for TurboGears,
and a few questions that have now resulted.

I've attached an irc log of a chat I had in #turbogears.  They say that
packaging a python module as a .egg file isn't necessary.  This means
that the python-Testgears spec can be, and probably should be, modified
to use the --single-version-externally-managed flag.  

TurboGears will work just fine without python-TestGears.  It's just a
testing suite.  Should the dependency be taken out of the TurboGears
package?  Also, the people in #turbogears (specifically evelind) say
that they don't even use python-TestGears and instead have moved on to
nose (http://python.org/pypi/nose).  Should I package nose or
python-TestGears or both?

There is also a like to the Debian guidelines on python packages.
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPython/NewPolicy .  I don't know if
anything in there applies, but it might.

~tom


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lyz anyone available for a packaging question?
lyz makeing an rpm for RHEL4
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lyz here it goes.. does TurboGears require that TestGears is in an egg package?  
wormtongue I know that some folks install without ever using an egg.. they're good for dependancies for us normal folks.
lyz if the system is using rpm to manage the deps is ther any reason to use eggs?
wormtongue See if you can attract jtate's attention - I think it was Him who said He does not install with eggs.
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lyz I'll hang out for a while thanks wormtongue 
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kov lyz: TurboGears and some other software really want to have at least the egg information
elvelind lyz: first of. TestGears is acually not used any more by TG. We now use Nose for testing.
kov lyz: you'll want to install stuff passing --single-version-externally-managed to setup.py
kov http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPython/NewPolicy may be of help
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lyz kov,  the --single-version-externally-managed flag overrides the creation of the egg file.  Is this the desired result?
kov lyz: yes
kov lyz: you'll only install the EGG-INFO directory, then, which is enough for setuptools' pkg_resources to find the information it wants
kov and the files go as they would
lyz kov, nice.  That's how I'll do it then.  Thanks
lyz kov, also thanks for the link
kov lyz: =)
lyz elvelind, where can I find this nose of which you speak
elvelind lyz: http://python.org/pypi/nose
elvelind lyz: but it's not required for tg to work. just for running the tests
lyz elvelind, I take it that TestGears isn't required either then
elvelind lyz: exactly
lyz elvelind, ok I'll work on taking that dep off of the TurboGears RPM in the fedora extras then.  I'll also try to package nose up
lyz thanks all
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