From notting at redhat.com Mon Oct 2 14:22:22 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:22:22 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] [MAILER-DAEMON@redhat.com: Returned mail: see transcript for details] Message-ID: <20061002142222.GB11611@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Eh? ----- Forwarded message from Mail Delivery Subsystem ----- X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:19:08 -0400 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: notting at redhat.com Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) The original message was received at Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:19:03 -0400 from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- (reason: 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mail-int.fedora.redhat.com.: >>> DATA <<< 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown <<< 503 5.0.0 Need RCPT (recipient) Reporting-MTA: dns; mx1.util.phx.redhat.com Received-From-MTA: DNS; int-mx1.corp.redhat.com Arrival-Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:19:03 -0400 Final-Recipient: RFC822; tickets at fedoraproject.org Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; mail-int.fedora.redhat.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:19:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 08:16:33 -0400 From: Bill Nottingham To: Fedora Support Ticket Agent Subject: Re: [Ticket#2006091510000015] distributed mirror url for fedora-extras is invalid User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Fedora Support Ticket Agent (tickets at fedoraproject.org) said: > Ok, I'm not 100% sure what the heck is going on with this. At present the > master mirror list exists on a redhat server, ... which one? Where does mirrorlist.cgi get its other mirror lists from? Bill ----- End forwarded message ----- From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Mon Oct 2 14:48:26 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 09:48:26 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] [MAILER-DAEMON@redhat.com: Returned mail: see transcript for details] In-Reply-To: <20061002142222.GB11611@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <20061002142222.GB11611@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610020748n5a50e254v6767944f55b6b489@mail.gmail.com> looking into it. -Mike On 10/2/06, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Eh? > > ----- Forwarded message from Mail Delivery Subsystem ----- > > X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 > Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:19:08 -0400 > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > To: notting at redhat.com > Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details > Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) > > The original message was received at Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:19:03 -0400 > from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > (reason: 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > ... while talking to mail-int.fedora.redhat.com.: > >>> DATA > <<< 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown > 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown > <<< 503 5.0.0 Need RCPT (recipient) > > Reporting-MTA: dns; mx1.util.phx.redhat.com > Received-From-MTA: DNS; int-mx1.corp.redhat.com > Arrival-Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:19:03 -0400 > > Final-Recipient: RFC822; tickets at fedoraproject.org > Action: failed > Status: 5.1.1 > Remote-MTA: DNS; mail-int.fedora.redhat.com > Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown > Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:19:08 -0400 > > Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 08:16:33 -0400 > From: Bill Nottingham > To: Fedora Support Ticket Agent > Subject: Re: [Ticket#2006091510000015] distributed mirror url for fedora-extras is invalid > User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) > > Fedora Support Ticket Agent (tickets at fedoraproject.org) said: > > Ok, I'm not 100% sure what the heck is going on with this. At present the > > master mirror list exists on a redhat server, > > ... which one? Where does mirrorlist.cgi get its other mirror lists from? > > Bill > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Mon Oct 2 14:54:53 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 09:54:53 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] [MAILER-DAEMON@redhat.com: Returned mail: see transcript for details] In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610020748n5a50e254v6767944f55b6b489@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061002142222.GB11611@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <3237e4410610020748n5a50e254v6767944f55b6b489@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610020754q190eadc0y1914a7222e6bae60@mail.gmail.com> Fixed On 10/2/06, Mike McGrath wrote: > looking into it. > > -Mike > > > On 10/2/06, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Eh? > > > > ----- Forwarded message from Mail Delivery Subsystem ----- > > > > X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 > > Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:19:08 -0400 > > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > > To: notting at redhat.com > > Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details > > Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) > > > > The original message was received at Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:19:03 -0400 > > from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254] > > > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > > > (reason: 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown) > > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > > ... while talking to mail-int.fedora.redhat.com.: > > >>> DATA > > <<< 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown > > 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown > > <<< 503 5.0.0 Need RCPT (recipient) > > > > Reporting-MTA: dns; mx1.util.phx.redhat.com > > Received-From-MTA: DNS; int-mx1.corp.redhat.com > > Arrival-Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:19:03 -0400 > > > > Final-Recipient: RFC822; tickets at fedoraproject.org > > Action: failed > > Status: 5.1.1 > > Remote-MTA: DNS; mail-int.fedora.redhat.com > > Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown > > Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:19:08 -0400 > > > > Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 08:16:33 -0400 > > From: Bill Nottingham > > To: Fedora Support Ticket Agent > > Subject: Re: [Ticket#2006091510000015] distributed mirror url for fedora-extras is invalid > > User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) > > > > Fedora Support Ticket Agent (tickets at fedoraproject.org) said: > > > Ok, I'm not 100% sure what the heck is going on with this. At present the > > > master mirror list exists on a redhat server, > > > > ... which one? Where does mirrorlist.cgi get its other mirror lists from? > > > > Bill > > > > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > > > From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Oct 3 15:06:31 2006 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 11:06:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Problem with Bonsai on cvs.fedora for /cvs/dirsec/ldapserver? (fwd) Message-ID: Can someone help Rich out with this? Thanks in advance, Max ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 08:13:35 -0600 From: Richard Megginson To: Max Spevack Subject: Problem with Bonsai on cvs.fedora for /cvs/dirsec/ldapserver? http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/bonsai/toplevel.cgi?treeid=dirsec The first strange thing is "Nobody seems to have made any changes since the tree opened." Next, I do a query to find all changes made on HEAD since tag FedoraDirSvr102 (or since 03-01-2006) on the queryform. http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/bonsai/cvsqueryform.cgi?cvsroot=/cvs/dirsec&module=dirsec It only shows me changes up to 03-20-2006 - nothing after that. My CVS fu is not strong - do you know how I can do the same query from the command line? cvs log .... and cvs history ... show too much (modules and branches and dates that I don't want, even though I specify -n, -m, -r, etc.). The bonsai query gives me exactly what I want - a list of changes on a branch (or HEAD) since a certain date, with the log message and a link to the diffs. From bugs.michael at gmx.net Tue Oct 3 16:58:37 2006 From: bugs.michael at gmx.net (Michael Schwendt) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 18:58:37 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Problem with Bonsai on cvs.fedora for /cvs/dirsec/ldapserver? (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20061003185837.dd475b70.bugs.michael@gmx.net> Cf. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/188365 -Michael On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 11:06:31 -0400 (EDT), Max Spevack wrote: > Can someone help Rich out with this? > > Thanks in advance, > Max > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 08:13:35 -0600 > From: Richard Megginson > To: Max Spevack > Subject: Problem with Bonsai on cvs.fedora for /cvs/dirsec/ldapserver? > > http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/bonsai/toplevel.cgi?treeid=dirsec > > The first strange thing is "Nobody seems to have made any changes since > the tree opened." > > Next, I do a query to find all changes made on HEAD since tag > FedoraDirSvr102 (or since 03-01-2006) on the queryform. > http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/bonsai/cvsqueryform.cgi?cvsroot=/cvs/dirsec&module=dirsec > > It only shows me changes up to 03-20-2006 - nothing after that. > > My CVS fu is not strong - do you know how I can do the same query from the > command line? cvs log .... and cvs history ... show too much (modules and > branches and dates that I don't want, even though I specify -n, -m, -r, > etc.). The bonsai query gives me exactly what I want - a list of changes > on a branch (or HEAD) since a certain date, with the log message and a > link to the diffs. From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Tue Oct 3 23:48:19 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 18:48:19 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Problem with Bonsai on cvs.fedora for /cvs/dirsec/ldapserver? (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20061003185837.dd475b70.bugs.michael@gmx.net> References: <20061003185837.dd475b70.bugs.michael@gmx.net> Message-ID: <3237e4410610031648u414e0176r2cfdc52c8edea18c@mail.gmail.com> On 10/3/06, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Cf. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/188365 > > -Michael > > On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 11:06:31 -0400 (EDT), Max Spevack wrote: > > > Can someone help Rich out with this? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Max > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 08:13:35 -0600 > > From: Richard Megginson > > To: Max Spevack > > Subject: Problem with Bonsai on cvs.fedora for /cvs/dirsec/ldapserver? > > > > http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/bonsai/toplevel.cgi?treeid=dirsec > > > > The first strange thing is "Nobody seems to have made any changes since > > the tree opened." > > > > Next, I do a query to find all changes made on HEAD since tag > > FedoraDirSvr102 (or since 03-01-2006) on the queryform. > > http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/bonsai/cvsqueryform.cgi?cvsroot=/cvs/dirsec&module=dirsec > > > > It only shows me changes up to 03-20-2006 - nothing after that. > > > > My CVS fu is not strong - do you know how I can do the same query from the > > command line? cvs log .... and cvs history ... show too much (modules and > > branches and dates that I don't want, even though I specify -n, -m, -r, > > etc.). The bonsai query gives me exactly what I want - a list of changes > > on a branch (or HEAD) since a certain date, with the log message and a > > link to the diffs. > Oops, looks like this slipped through the crack on me. Can anyone remember this ever working? -Mike From notting at redhat.com Wed Oct 4 15:10:59 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 11:10:59 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] [MAILER-DAEMON@fedoraproject.org: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender] Message-ID: <20061004151059.GA3694@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> ----- Forwarded message from Mail Delivery System ----- X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Delivered-To: root at fedoraproject.org Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 08:09:32 -0700 (MST) From: Mail Delivery System Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender To: root at fedoraproject.org Auto-Submitted: auto-replied X-RedHat-Spam-Score: -2.82 Content-Description: Notification This is the mail system at host smtp.fedoraproject.org. 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The mail system (expanded from ): unknown user: "otrs" Content-Description: Delivery report Reporting-MTA: dns; smtp.fedoraproject.org X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 006A647101 X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; root at fedoraproject.org Arrival-Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 08:09:31 -0700 (MST) Final-Recipient: rfc822; otrs at fedoraproject.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;webmaster at fedoraproject.org Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; unknown user: "otrs" Content-Description: Undelivered Message X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at fedoraproject.org From: Cron Daemon To: root at fedoraproject.org, postmaster at fedoraproject.org, webmaster at fedoraproject.org, clamav at fedoraproject.org Subject: Cron /usr/share/clamav/freshclam-sleep Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 08:09:23 -0700 (MST) ERROR: Error while reading database from database.clamav.net ERROR: Can't download daily.cvd from database.clamav.net (IP: 66.111.55.10) ----- End forwarded message ----- From dimitris at glezos.com Mon Oct 2 23:24:16 2006 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 00:24:16 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] who has some CSS/wiki foo? In-Reply-To: <1159829670.10029.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4512D611.1050200@redhat.com> <1159827000.19689.278.camel@erato.phig.org> <1159829670.10029.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1159831456.4397.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> (CCing fedora-infrastructure-list) Sam Folk-Williams wrote: > On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 15:10 -0700, Karsten Wade wrote: > > ii. Switching to using Plone to serve the front page means more > > control > > over the page; Moin Moin is just too limiting. Problem here is > > resources are tight to get the work done; more help is needed to get > > it > > done sooner: > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/PloneToDo > > This is stuck. The server needs to be upgraded from RHEL/CENTOS 4 to FC5 > to get the new version of Python, which is needed for the new version of > Plone, which is needed for the authentication process to work with our > existing process. > > Updating the server is hard because there's a lot of other production > stuff running on the server. Probably it would be easier if we run it then on a new server then? :) > I'm offering to volunteer whatever I can to the plone project, but not > sure how to get it moving. I'm offering to volunteer to the infrastructure project too (plone, foo) and participate in IRC meetings & discussions. -dim -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From samfw at redhat.com Tue Oct 3 11:48:43 2006 From: samfw at redhat.com (Sam Folk-Williams) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 07:48:43 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] who has some CSS/wiki foo? In-Reply-To: <1159831456.4397.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4512D611.1050200@redhat.com> <1159827000.19689.278.camel@erato.phig.org> <1159829670.10029.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1159831456.4397.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1159876123.10029.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 00:24 +0100, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > Probably it would be easier if we run it then on a new server then? :) Is this a realistic option? I assume provisioning a new server is not an easy task in terms of $$, etc. Sam -- Sam Folk-Williams, RHCE Global Support Services From dennis at ausil.us Wed Oct 4 17:36:19 2006 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 12:36:19 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] who has some CSS/wiki foo? In-Reply-To: <1159831456.4397.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1159829670.10029.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1159831456.4397.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200610041236.19319.dennis@ausil.us> On Monday 02 October 2006 18:24, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > (CCing fedora-infrastructure-list) > > This is stuck. The server needs to be upgraded from RHEL/CENTOS 4 to FC5 > > to get the new version of Python, which is needed for the new version of > > Plone, which is needed for the authentication process to work with our > > existing process. I am as soon as i get some time going tobuild a parallel installable python-2.4 for RHEL so we could use that and move forward on these types of things if someone wants to jump on it feel free to. a good starting point will be the python-2.5 packages available for Rawhide by the python maintainer. > Probably it would be easier if we run it then on a new server then? :) This could be done as a xen client on one of our xen boxes Dennis From linux at elfshadow.net Thu Oct 5 21:01:48 2006 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 17:01:48 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] IRC Meeting Log - 10/05/06 Message-ID: <452572BC.3080909@elfshadow.net> IRC Meeting log from today attached. --Jeffrey -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: infra_irc_log_10-05-06.txt URL: From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Fri Oct 6 01:24:30 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 20:24:30 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Infrastructure Officers and team goals Message-ID: <3237e4410610051824l2a1dd074sfae781af3c04c69e@mail.gmail.com> We've been talking about this off and on for a while now and I'd like to propose the following to the list. I would encourage everyone (even those not in the infrastructure team) to respond. I'd also like to say I see a need for officers not just so we can focus on specific needs, but also as an easier way to bring new people in and delegate. As always this is a voluntary system but I think some structure is needed from here on out. I'm proposing the following officers taken from the fedora-sysadmin-main group. Infrastructure Lead: Mike McGrath Build System/Package Manager: Dennis Gilmore OS Manager: Jeffrey Tadlock Security Officer: Luck Macken Red Hat Liaison: Warren Togami Community Liaison: Seth Vidal The officers, as a group, will try to decide the best future and use for the Fedora Infrastructure. As a rule we always report to the board but must try to be as autonomous as possible. We may report to the board, but we work for the developers. Gotta keep them happy ;-) None of this is even remotely set in stone. But if there are no objections I'd like to make this official on the next meeting. Any additions/subtractions should be prepared before then so use the list. I've picked these people based off of some of their current workings, if I've picked you and you're not interested... sorry bout that ;-) just let me know. Its my intention to let these people define their own opinions of what being an officer means, but I'd like them to be written out and placed on the wiki. Consider the floor open. -Mike From email.ahmedkamal at googlemail.com Fri Oct 6 01:37:11 2006 From: email.ahmedkamal at googlemail.com (Ahmed Kamal) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 03:37:11 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] NewAdmin process Message-ID: <3da3b5b40610051837j772b3988r24625a984a36d52b@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Reading the IRC meeting log, I understand you guys want to work on a process to make it easy for new volunteers to start joining FI smoothly. Being a new volunteer member, I thought I would share some problems I faced, hoping to stir more thought leading to a good process in the short run. Let's define what we'll probably need: 1- Network layout: Being a new member, I have no idea what the network topology is, what are the server names, external/internal IPs ... Some form of a document (wiki drawing of the network?) would be extremely helpful IMHO 2- Xen-guests: In the near future, it seems everything will be running in Xen guests! A new technology, most new admins will not have mastered yet! I guess we need a quick intro to installing/handling Xen guests in the FI network. This should explain whatever templates/KS-files you guys use. 3- Server Access: Having registered myself and submitted my SSH/GPG keys, it is totally unclear to me what kind of access this gives me! Please make it clear to the new volunteer, what he can access to start working on. Perhaps some (playground) Xen-guests, for testing new deployments would be helpful? 4- Breaking down tasks: I think volunteers are more suited to working on longer term tasks, rather than immediate attention tasks. We might need to start defining longer term goals, and break those goals into smaller tasklets that many volunteers can start working on. As time goes on, natural leaders will emerge to handle managing those micro-projects. Ok, those are the points I could think of (well it is 3:30am here!), I just hope to get this new process going soon. Best Regards -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Fri Oct 6 02:51:48 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 21:51:48 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: Infrastructure Officers and team goals In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610051824l2a1dd074sfae781af3c04c69e@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610051824l2a1dd074sfae781af3c04c69e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610051951v2d2cc71t66777c7d8ad650a4@mail.gmail.com> On 10/5/06, Mike McGrath wrote: > We've been talking about this off and on for a while now and I'd like > to propose the following to the list. I would encourage everyone > (even those not in the infrastructure team) to respond. > > I'd also like to say I see a need for officers not just so we can > focus on specific needs, but also as an easier way to bring new people > in and delegate. As always this is a voluntary system but I think > some structure is needed from here on out. I'm proposing the > following officers taken from the fedora-sysadmin-main group. > > Infrastructure Lead: Mike McGrath > Build System/Package Manager: Dennis Gilmore > OS Manager: Jeffrey Tadlock > Security Officer: Luck Macken > Red Hat Liaison: Warren Togami > Community Liaison: Seth Vidal > Forgot one, Development Manager: Toshio Kuratomi (for infrastructure related development) -Mike From samfw at redhat.com Fri Oct 6 10:22:51 2006 From: samfw at redhat.com (Sam Folk-Williams) Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 06:22:51 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: Infrastructure Officers and team goals In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610051951v2d2cc71t66777c7d8ad650a4@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610051824l2a1dd074sfae781af3c04c69e@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610051951v2d2cc71t66777c7d8ad650a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1160130171.2716.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 21:51 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > On 10/5/06, Mike McGrath wrote: > > We've been talking about this off and on for a while now and I'd like > > to propose the following to the list. I would encourage everyone > > (even those not in the infrastructure team) to respond. > > > > I'd also like to say I see a need for officers not just so we can > > focus on specific needs, but also as an easier way to bring new people > > in and delegate. As always this is a voluntary system but I think > > some structure is needed from here on out. I'm proposing the > > following officers taken from the fedora-sysadmin-main group. > > > > Infrastructure Lead: Mike McGrath > > Build System/Package Manager: Dennis Gilmore > > OS Manager: Jeffrey Tadlock > > Security Officer: Luck Macken > > Red Hat Liaison: Warren Togami > > Community Liaison: Seth Vidal > > Hi, To be consistent with other groups (Docs/Ambassadors, etc) you may want to have people vote for these positions rather than appointing them. Other than that I think it's a great idea. Being new, I assumed there were already officers... Sam > > Forgot one, Development Manager: Toshio Kuratomi (for infrastructure > related development) > > -Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list -- Sam Folk-Williams, RHCE Global Support Services From Christian.Iseli at licr.org Fri Oct 6 11:03:44 2006 From: Christian.Iseli at licr.org (Christian Iseli) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 13:03:44 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: Infrastructure Officers and team goals In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610051951v2d2cc71t66777c7d8ad650a4@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610051824l2a1dd074sfae781af3c04c69e@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610051951v2d2cc71t66777c7d8ad650a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061006130344.7c0ca5b6@ludwig-alpha> On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 21:51:48 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > Infrastructure Lead: Mike McGrath > > Build System/Package Manager: Dennis Gilmore > > OS Manager: Jeffrey Tadlock > > Security Officer: Luck Macken > > Red Hat Liaison: Warren Togami > > Community Liaison: Seth Vidal > > > > Forgot one, Development Manager: Toshio Kuratomi (for infrastructure > related development) Sounds good to me. C From a.badger at gmail.com Fri Oct 6 19:04:25 2006 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:04:25 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: Infrastructure Officers and team goals In-Reply-To: <1160130171.2716.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <3237e4410610051824l2a1dd074sfae781af3c04c69e@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610051951v2d2cc71t66777c7d8ad650a4@mail.gmail.com> <1160130171.2716.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1160161465.2647.47.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2006-10-06 at 06:22 -0400, Sam Folk-Williams wrote: > To be consistent with other groups (Docs/Ambassadors, etc) you may want > to have people vote for these positions rather than appointing them. > Not sure about voting. Ambassadors and FESCo have only started to vote on their positions this past year after having a while to create a sense of what roles the elected body is supposed to perform. These positions are also different than FESCo and Ambassadors in that it isn't an election of a body of people -- it's an election to individual positions. This is the difference between elections for the city council and elections for sheriff, treasurer, and mayor. For these specialized positions you want someone who is familiar with the issues that will be facing them in that job as they will be the go-to person when problems crop up in those areas. Which isn't to say that voters couldn't do a good job of picking people with the right skills and knowledge here either. But I think we lack one other criteria for good elections: voters. Currently we only have 31 people listed in the sysadmin groups so it's somewhat silly to hold elections for seven positions at this point. I think a simple confirmation/discussion will better serve us at this time. -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From bugs.michael at gmx.net Fri Oct 6 19:46:16 2006 From: bugs.michael at gmx.net (Michael Schwendt) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 21:46:16 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: Infrastructure Officers and team goals In-Reply-To: <1160161465.2647.47.camel@localhost> References: <3237e4410610051824l2a1dd074sfae781af3c04c69e@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610051951v2d2cc71t66777c7d8ad650a4@mail.gmail.com> <1160130171.2716.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1160161465.2647.47.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20061006214616.6ff7f4d8.bugs.michael@gmx.net> On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:04:25 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Fri, 2006-10-06 at 06:22 -0400, Sam Folk-Williams wrote: > > > To be consistent with other groups (Docs/Ambassadors, etc) you may want > > to have people vote for these positions rather than appointing them. > > > Not sure about voting. Ambassadors and FESCo have only started to vote > on their positions this past year after having a while to create a sense > of what roles the elected body is supposed to perform. These positions > are also different than FESCo and Ambassadors in that it isn't an > election of a body of people -- it's an election to individual > positions. This is the difference between elections for the city > council and elections for sheriff, treasurer, and mayor. For these > specialized positions you want someone who is familiar with the issues > that will be facing them in that job as they will be the go-to person > when problems crop up in those areas. > > Which isn't to say that voters couldn't do a good job of picking people > with the right skills and knowledge here either. But I think we lack > one other criteria for good elections: voters. Currently we only have > 31 people listed in the sysadmin groups so it's somewhat silly to hold > elections for seven positions at this point. I think a simple > confirmation/discussion will better serve us at this time. Prior to filling positions with people and titles, it would be better to define the obligations, responsibilities, and the work-flow for each of these positions. Like "What exactly does the Build System/Package Manager [X] do? How does he differ from other contributors within the Infrastructure Group? What do you--i.e. a contributor or person within the Infrastructure Group--need him for instead of the list?" [X] insert other position titles here Especially for people outside the Infrastructure Group or even outside the Fedora Project, such information about the structure of parts of the project is important. From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Fri Oct 6 19:44:31 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 14:44:31 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: Infrastructure Officers and team goals In-Reply-To: <20061006214616.6ff7f4d8.bugs.michael@gmx.net> References: <3237e4410610051824l2a1dd074sfae781af3c04c69e@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610051951v2d2cc71t66777c7d8ad650a4@mail.gmail.com> <1160130171.2716.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1160161465.2647.47.camel@localhost> <20061006214616.6ff7f4d8.bugs.michael@gmx.net> Message-ID: <3237e4410610061244x5044d688tb26dce7a1933fbe1@mail.gmail.com> On 10/6/06, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:04:25 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > On Fri, 2006-10-06 at 06:22 -0400, Sam Folk-Williams wrote: > > > > > To be consistent with other groups (Docs/Ambassadors, etc) you may want > > > to have people vote for these positions rather than appointing them. > > > > > Not sure about voting. Ambassadors and FESCo have only started to vote > > on their positions this past year after having a while to create a sense > > of what roles the elected body is supposed to perform. These positions > > are also different than FESCo and Ambassadors in that it isn't an > > election of a body of people -- it's an election to individual > > positions. This is the difference between elections for the city > > council and elections for sheriff, treasurer, and mayor. For these > > specialized positions you want someone who is familiar with the issues > > that will be facing them in that job as they will be the go-to person > > when problems crop up in those areas. > > > > Which isn't to say that voters couldn't do a good job of picking people > > with the right skills and knowledge here either. But I think we lack > > one other criteria for good elections: voters. Currently we only have > > 31 people listed in the sysadmin groups so it's somewhat silly to hold > > elections for seven positions at this point. I think a simple > > confirmation/discussion will better serve us at this time. > > Prior to filling positions with people and titles, it would be better to > define the obligations, responsibilities, and the work-flow for each of > these positions. > > Like "What exactly does the Build System/Package Manager [X] do? How does he > differ from other contributors within the Infrastructure Group? What > do you--i.e. a contributor or person within the Infrastructure Group--need > him for instead of the list?" [X] insert other position titles here > > Especially for people outside the Infrastructure Group or even outside the > Fedora Project, such information about the structure of parts of the > project is important. > In this instance I was hoping the people involved would help design the guidelines for their own roles, for approval of course. -Mike From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Fri Oct 6 19:50:21 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 14:50:21 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: Infrastructure Officers and team goals In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610061244x5044d688tb26dce7a1933fbe1@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610051824l2a1dd074sfae781af3c04c69e@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610051951v2d2cc71t66777c7d8ad650a4@mail.gmail.com> <1160130171.2716.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1160161465.2647.47.camel@localhost> <20061006214616.6ff7f4d8.bugs.michael@gmx.net> <3237e4410610061244x5044d688tb26dce7a1933fbe1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610061250p7e5fcfbcg680f40d2b90124ab@mail.gmail.com> On 10/6/06, Mike McGrath wrote: > On 10/6/06, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:04:25 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 2006-10-06 at 06:22 -0400, Sam Folk-Williams wrote: > > > > > > > To be consistent with other groups (Docs/Ambassadors, etc) you may want > > > > to have people vote for these positions rather than appointing them. > > > > > > > Not sure about voting. Ambassadors and FESCo have only started to vote > > > on their positions this past year after having a while to create a sense > > > of what roles the elected body is supposed to perform. These positions > > > are also different than FESCo and Ambassadors in that it isn't an > > > election of a body of people -- it's an election to individual > > > positions. This is the difference between elections for the city > > > council and elections for sheriff, treasurer, and mayor. For these > > > specialized positions you want someone who is familiar with the issues > > > that will be facing them in that job as they will be the go-to person > > > when problems crop up in those areas. > > > > > > Which isn't to say that voters couldn't do a good job of picking people > > > with the right skills and knowledge here either. But I think we lack > > > one other criteria for good elections: voters. Currently we only have > > > 31 people listed in the sysadmin groups so it's somewhat silly to hold > > > elections for seven positions at this point. I think a simple > > > confirmation/discussion will better serve us at this time. > > > > Prior to filling positions with people and titles, it would be better to > > define the obligations, responsibilities, and the work-flow for each of > > these positions. > > > > Like "What exactly does the Build System/Package Manager [X] do? How does he > > differ from other contributors within the Infrastructure Group? What > > do you--i.e. a contributor or person within the Infrastructure Group--need > > him for instead of the list?" [X] insert other position titles here > > > > Especially for people outside the Infrastructure Group or even outside the > > Fedora Project, such information about the structure of parts of the > > project is important. > > > > In this instance I was hoping the people involved would help design > the guidelines for their own roles, for approval of course. > Sorry, I should preface this with: I know this is a bit unorthodox but given who's involved and that we need to get more people in I felt speed was important. I certainly don't suspect that this will be the permanent way officers come and go. But these are all guys that are regularly at the meetings and know the environment pretty well. This is not at all in stone and I'd encourage anyone that has a problem or a better idea to bring it up on the list or come to the next meeting. I just want to have the guys in place so we can bring in some new guys en mass (an announcement will go out soon) and have the right people get sponsored by the right sponsors. -Mike From dimitris at glezos.com Fri Oct 6 21:00:58 2006 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:00:58 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] suggestion: standarized account nicks Message-ID: <4526C40A.8030908@glezos.com> Hi all. Anyone else from the infrastructure team that thinks the account nicks should be standardized in a way? I see commits from nicks that I have no ideas who they are. In GNOME they give the account to the surname or if it is common (google search returns many first names) to the first letter of the first name + surname (eg. dglezos). Of course, this means a slight burden on us since we have to approve nicks. But I don't think it's much of a burden. I can help on this. -dim -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From Christian.Iseli at licr.org Fri Oct 6 21:54:47 2006 From: Christian.Iseli at licr.org (Christian Iseli) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 23:54:47 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] suggestion: standarized account nicks In-Reply-To: <4526C40A.8030908@glezos.com> References: <4526C40A.8030908@glezos.com> Message-ID: <20061006235447.4e2d7c65@ludwig-alpha> On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:00:58 +0100, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > Anyone else from the infrastructure team that thinks the account nicks should be > standardized in a way? nope > I see commits from nicks that I have no ideas who they are. Have a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/AccountSystem/QueryAccount Cheers, C From email.ahmedkamal at googlemail.com Fri Oct 6 23:29:34 2006 From: email.ahmedkamal at googlemail.com (Ahmed Kamal) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 01:29:34 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: NewAdmin process In-Reply-To: <3da3b5b40610051837j772b3988r24625a984a36d52b@mail.gmail.com> References: <3da3b5b40610051837j772b3988r24625a984a36d52b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3da3b5b40610061629g90fe104raefc5805eac4a460@mail.gmail.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ahmed Kamal Date: Oct 6, 2006 3:37 AM Subject: NewAdmin process To: fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com Hi, Reading the IRC meeting log, I understand you guys want to work on a process to make it easy for new volunteers to start joining FI smoothly. Being a new volunteer member, I thought I would share some problems I faced, hoping to stir more thought leading to a good process in the short run. Let's define what we'll probably need: 1- Network layout: Being a new member, I have no idea what the network topology is, what are the server names, external/internal IPs ... Some form of a document (wiki drawing of the network?) would be extremely helpful IMHO 2- Xen-guests: In the near future, it seems everything will be running in Xen guests! A new technology, most new admins will not have mastered yet! I guess we need a quick intro to installing/handling Xen guests in the FI network. This should explain whatever templates/KS-files you guys use. 3- Server Access: Having registered myself and submitted my SSH/GPG keys, it is totally unclear to me what kind of access this gives me! Please make it clear to the new volunteer, what he can access to start working on. Perhaps some (playground) Xen-guests, for testing new deployments would be helpful? 4- Breaking down tasks: I think volunteers are more suited to working on longer term tasks, rather than immediate attention tasks. We might need to start defining longer term goals, and break those goals into smaller tasklets that many volunteers can start working on. As time goes on, natural leaders will emerge to handle managing those micro-projects. Ok, those are the points I could think of (well it is 3:30am here!), I just hope to get this new process going soon. Best Regards -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Sat Oct 7 14:26:48 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 09:26:48 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: NewAdmin process In-Reply-To: <3da3b5b40610061629g90fe104raefc5805eac4a460@mail.gmail.com> References: <3da3b5b40610051837j772b3988r24625a984a36d52b@mail.gmail.com> <3da3b5b40610061629g90fe104raefc5805eac4a460@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610070726t7b5c3930t876934c5ee61e83a@mail.gmail.com> We got them both, it sometimes takes people a while to respond. https://www.redhat.com/mailman/private/fedora-infrastructure-list/2006-October/thread.html -Mike On 10/6/06, Ahmed Kamal wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Ahmed Kamal > Date: Oct 6, 2006 3:37 AM > Subject: NewAdmin process > To: fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > > Hi, > Reading the IRC meeting log, I understand you guys want to work on a > process to make it easy for new volunteers to start joining FI smoothly. > Being a new volunteer member, I thought I would share some problems I faced, > hoping to stir more thought leading to a good process in the short run. > Let's define what we'll probably need: > > 1- Network layout: Being a new member, I have no idea what the network > topology is, what are the server names, external/internal IPs ... Some form > of a document (wiki drawing of the network?) would be extremely helpful IMHO > > 2- Xen-guests: In the near future, it seems everything will be running in > Xen guests! A new technology, most new admins will not have mastered yet! I > guess we need a quick intro to installing/handling Xen guests in the FI > network. This should explain whatever templates/KS-files you guys use. > > 3- Server Access: Having registered myself and submitted my SSH/GPG keys, it > is totally unclear to me what kind of access this gives me! Please make it > clear to the new volunteer, what he can access to start working on. Perhaps > some (playground) Xen-guests, for testing new deployments would be helpful? > > 4- Breaking down tasks: I think volunteers are more suited to working on > longer term tasks, rather than immediate attention tasks. We might need to > start defining longer term goals, and break those goals into smaller > tasklets that many volunteers can start working on. As time goes on, natural > leaders will emerge to handle managing those micro-projects. > > > Ok, those are the points I could think of (well it is 3:30am here!), I just > hope to get this new process going soon. > > Best Regards > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > > > From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Sat Oct 7 14:31:17 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 09:31:17 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: NewAdmin process In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610070726t7b5c3930t876934c5ee61e83a@mail.gmail.com> References: <3da3b5b40610051837j772b3988r24625a984a36d52b@mail.gmail.com> <3da3b5b40610061629g90fe104raefc5805eac4a460@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610070726t7b5c3930t876934c5ee61e83a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610070731m709b453u52791f07a0c209d0@mail.gmail.com> On 10/7/06, Mike McGrath wrote: > We got them both, it sometimes takes people a while to respond. > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/private/fedora-infrastructure-list/2006-October/thread.html > > -Mike > Some context around this one would probably be nice, Ahmed was having some troubles with the infrastructure list, he wanted to make sure his emails were getting to the list :D Regarding the content of your email, the network diagram could be useful to those working on the whole network but for the most part we keep it more semi-private, at least not totally public. Longer term project would certainly be a great way for people to get involved but it seems no one ever signs up to do whats on the schedule except for our regulars. And even then rarely is help offered. A lot of the projects listed on the schedule have been there for many months because work force is so scarce :( So if there's something on there anyone wants to work on make sure to take it or let the project manager know. -Mike From email.ahmedkamal at googlemail.com Sat Oct 7 14:55:00 2006 From: email.ahmedkamal at googlemail.com (Ahmed Kamal) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 16:55:00 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: NewAdmin process In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610070731m709b453u52791f07a0c209d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <3da3b5b40610051837j772b3988r24625a984a36d52b@mail.gmail.com> <3da3b5b40610061629g90fe104raefc5805eac4a460@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610070726t7b5c3930t876934c5ee61e83a@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610070731m709b453u52791f07a0c209d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3da3b5b40610070755g59c79b12y4adf7c60ffba9624@mail.gmail.com> Sorry for the double post, but I didnot get my posts except when you replied!! I understand your point about the network layout public availability. But this would fall under "security through obscurity" wouldn't it ;) About, the scarce workforce, I have tried to join many projects, but got lost! For instance, my last attempt was at helping with the firewall re-write. I contacted Luke, who was very responsive and helpful, albeit a bit busy. Me not knowing anything about the servers, the network layout, or even the requirements for the firewall, I just couldn't do anything to help :( Well, perhaps, I should be tackling some priority 2 problems (to be simpler & of lower urgency), such as the "aliases" issue. I have no problem following this task if someone would tell me what needs to be done. Ideally, I would click on the project name, to get a detailed page saying: 1- Login to x.xx.xx.xx using some auth account 2- Query the ldap server at yy.yy.yy.yy 3- Write a script to verify all aliases against /etc/mail/aliases Unfortunately, such a page doesnot yet exist. Any pointers to how I can go ahead ? Best Regards On 10/7/06, Mike McGrath wrote: > On 10/7/06, Mike McGrath wrote: > > We got them both, it sometimes takes people a while to respond. > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/private/fedora-infrastructure-list/2006-October/thread.html > > > > -Mike > > > > Some context around this one would probably be nice, Ahmed was having > some troubles with the infrastructure list, he wanted to make sure his > emails were getting to the list :D > > Regarding the content of your email, the network diagram could be > useful to those working on the whole network but for the most part we > keep it more semi-private, at least not totally public. Longer term > project would certainly be a great way for people to get involved but > it seems no one ever signs up to do whats on the schedule except for > our regulars. And even then rarely is help offered. 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URL: From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Sat Oct 7 15:13:15 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 10:13:15 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: NewAdmin process In-Reply-To: <3da3b5b40610070755g59c79b12y4adf7c60ffba9624@mail.gmail.com> References: <3da3b5b40610051837j772b3988r24625a984a36d52b@mail.gmail.com> <3da3b5b40610061629g90fe104raefc5805eac4a460@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610070726t7b5c3930t876934c5ee61e83a@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610070731m709b453u52791f07a0c209d0@mail.gmail.com> <3da3b5b40610070755g59c79b12y4adf7c60ffba9624@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610070813g4f19737ai27d202e2d7a333fa@mail.gmail.com> On 10/7/06, Ahmed Kamal wrote: > About, the scarce workforce, I have tried to join many projects, but got > lost! For instance, my last attempt was at helping with the firewall > re-write. I contacted Luke, who was very responsive and helpful, albeit a > bit busy. Me not knowing anything about the servers, the network layout, or > even the requirements for the firewall, I just couldn't do anything to help > :( > > Well, perhaps, I should be tackling some priority 2 problems (to be simpler > & of lower urgency), such as the "aliases" issue. I have no problem > following this task if someone would tell me what needs to be done. Ideally, > I would click on the project name, to get a detailed page saying: > 1- Login to x.xx.xx.xx using some auth account > 2- Query the ldap server at yy.yy.yy.yy > 3- Write a script to verify all aliases against /etc/mail/aliases The aliases thing is actually a flat file, we need someone to verify that there aren't spaces/special characters in the file, just that the aliases actually work and that we aren't breaking anything. -Mike From Christian.Iseli at licr.org Sat Oct 7 21:16:54 2006 From: Christian.Iseli at licr.org (Christian Iseli) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 23:16:54 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] offline/vacations Message-ID: <20061007231654.11bd8355@ludwig-alpha> Hi folks, I'll be completely offline from now til Wednesday, and then probably semi-offline for the rest of the week. I'll try to catch up on email on Wednesday, but then I dunno what kind of network connection I'll be able to find... I most probably won't be able to attend the meeting on Thursday. See you in a week... Cheers, C From bugs.michael at gmx.net Sat Oct 7 23:12:02 2006 From: bugs.michael at gmx.net (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 01:12:02 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Wiki broken - help needed! Message-ID: <20061008011202.485da24a.bugs.michael@gmx.net> Somebody with the e-mail address has subscribed to some Wiki pages and breaks them in several ways: * Mail notifications are disabled. I no longer receive mails when somebody edits such a page. * Editing the pages gives a colourful traceback. Happens with e.g.: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/FC5Status --> --> UnicodeEncodeError'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\uff20' in position 22: ordinal not in range(128) Please include this information in your bug reports!: Python Python 2.3.4: /usr/bin/python Linux fpserv.linux.duke.edu 2.6.9-42.0.2.ELsmp #1 SMP Wed Aug 23 13:38:27 BST 2006 x86_64 MoinMoin Release 1.3.4 [Revision 1.3.4 release] Sat Oct 7 19:02:05 2006 A problem occurred in a Python script. Here is the sequence of function calls leading up to the error, in the order they occurred. /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MoinMoin/request.py in run(self=) 916 else: 917 try: 918 cgitb.Hook(file=self).handle(saved_exc) 919 # was: cgitb.handler() 920 except: cgitb = , cgitb.Hook = , file undefined, self = , ).handle undefined, saved_exc = (, , ) /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MoinMoin/wikiaction.py in do_savepage(pagename=u'Extras/FC5Status', request=) 628 except pg.SaveError, msg: 629 # msg contain a unicode string 630 savemsg = unicode(msg) 631 632 # Send new page after save or after unsuccessful conflict merge. savemsg undefined, unicode undefined, msg undefined /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MoinMoin/PageEditor.py in saveText(self=, newtext=u'== Fedora Extras for FC5 repository status ==\n\n ...at.com||perl-Razor-Agent||||\n----\nCategoryExtras\n', rev=184, **kw={'comment': u'sysprof - 1.0.3-4.fc5.ppc and amarok - 1.4.1-3.fc5.x86_64 will be gone', 'trivial': 0}) 940 # send notification mails 941 if self.request.cfg.mail_smarthost: 942 msg = msg + self._notifySubscribers(comment, trivial) 943 944 # remove lock (forcibly if we were allowed to break it by the UI) msg = u'Thank you for your changes. Your attention to detail is appreciated.', self = , self._notifySubscribers = >, comment = u'sysprof - 1.0.3-4.fc5.ppc and amarok - 1.4.1-3.fc5.x86_64 will be gone', trivial = 0 /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MoinMoin/PageEditor.py in _notifySubscribers(self=, comment=u'sysprof - 1.0.3-4.fc5.ppc and amarok - 1.4.1-3.fc5.x86_64 will be gone', trivial=0) 580 emails = map(lambda u: u.email, subscribers[lang]) 581 names = map(lambda u: u.name, subscribers[lang]) 582 mailok, status = self._sendNotification(comment, emails, lang, revisions, trivial) 583 recipients = ", ".join(names) 584 results.append(_('[%(lang)s] %(recipients)s: %(status)s') % { mailok = 1, status = u'Mail sent OK', self = , self._sendNotification = >, comment = u'sysprof - 1.0.3-4.fc5.ppc and amarok - 1.4.1-3.fc5.x86_64 will be gone', emails = [u'tchung at fedoraproject.org', u'ville.skytta at iki.fi', u'fedora at leemhuis.info', u'rdieter at math.unl.edu', u'ivazquez at ivazquez.net', u'Christian.Iseli at licr.org', u'sundaram at redhat.com', u'nman64 at fedoraproject.org', u'michael at knox.net.nz', u'liangmeiairen\uff20163 .com', u'flores.enrique at gmail.com'], lang = 'en', revisions = [184, 183, 182, 181, 180, 179, 178, 177, 176, 175, 174, 173, 172, 171, 170, 169, 168, 167, 166, 165, ...], trivial = 0 /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MoinMoin/PageEditor.py in _sendNotification(self=, comment=u'sysprof - 1.0.3-4.fc5.ppc and amarok - 1.4.1-3.fc5.x86_64 will be gone', emails=[u'tchung at fedoraproject.org', u'ville.skytta at iki.fi', u'fedora at leemhuis.info', u'rdieter at math.unl.edu', u'ivazquez at ivazquez.net', u'Christian.Iseli at licr.org', u'sundaram at redhat.com', u'nman64 at fedoraproject.org', u'michael at knox.net.nz', u'liangmeiairen\uff20163 .com', u'flores.enrique at gmail.com'], email_lang='en', revisions=[184, 183, 182, 181, 180, 179, 178, 177, 176, 175, 174, 173, 172, 171, 170, 169, 168, 167, 166, 165, ...], trivial=0) 556 'username': self.uid_override or user.getUserIdentification(self.request), 557 }, 558 mailBody, mail_from=self.cfg.mail_from) 559 560 mailBody = u'Dear Wiki user,\n\nYou have subscribed to a wiki p...sion independent, disttagless, noarch packages):\n', mail_from undefined, self = , self.cfg = , self.cfg.mail_from = 'fedorawiki-noreply at fedoraproject.org' /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MoinMoin/util/mail.py in sendmail(request=, to=[u'tchung at fedoraproject.org', u'ville.skytta at iki.fi', u'fedora at leemhuis.info', u'rdieter at math.unl.edu', u'ivazquez at ivazquez.net', u'Christian.Iseli at licr.org', u'sundaram at redhat.com', u'nman64 at fedoraproject.org', u'michael at knox.net.nz', u'liangmeiairen\uff20163 .com', u'flores.enrique at gmail.com'], subject=u'[Fedora Project Wiki] Update of "Extras/FC5Status" by MichaelSchwendt', text='Dear Wiki user,\r\n\r\nYou have subscribed to a wiki...ion independent, disttagless, noarch packages):\r\n', **kw={'mail_from': 'fedorawiki-noreply at fedoraproject.org'}) 85 return (0, str(e)) 86 except (os.error, socket.error), e: 87 return (0, _("Connection to mailserver '%(server)s' failed: %(reason)s") % { 88 'server': cfg.mail_smarthost, 89 'reason': str(e) _ = >, cfg = , cfg.mail_smarthost = 'mail.linux.duke.edu', str undefined, e undefined /usr/lib64/python2.3/smtplib.py in sendmail(self=, from_addr='fedorawiki-noreply at fedoraproject.org', to_addrs=[u'tchung at fedoraproject.org', u'ville.skytta at iki.fi', u'fedora at leemhuis.info', u'rdieter at math.unl.edu', u'ivazquez at ivazquez.net', u'Christian.Iseli at licr.org', u'sundaram at redhat.com', u'nman64 at fedoraproject.org', u'michael at knox.net.nz', u'liangmeiairen\uff20163 .com', u'flores.enrique at gmail.com'], msg='Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"\nMIME-V...LCBkaXN0dGFnbGVzcywgbm9hcmNoIHBhY2thZ2VzKToNCg==\n', mail_options=[], rcpt_options=[]) 679 to_addrs = [to_addrs] 680 for each in to_addrs: 681 (code,resp)=self.rcpt(each, rcpt_options) 682 if (code != 250) and (code != 251): 683 senderrs[each]=(code,resp) code = 250, resp = 'Ok', self = , self.rcpt = >, each = u'liangmeiairen\uff20163 .com', rcpt_options = [] /usr/lib64/python2.3/smtplib.py in rcpt(self=, recip=u'liangmeiairen\uff20163 .com', options=[]) 462 if options and self.does_esmtp: 463 optionlist = ' ' + ' '.join(options) 464 self.putcmd("rcpt","TO:%s%s" % (quoteaddr(recip),optionlist)) 465 return self.getreply() 466 self = , self.putcmd = >, global quoteaddr = , recip = u'liangmeiairen\uff20163 .com', optionlist = '' /usr/lib64/python2.3/smtplib.py in putcmd(self=, cmd='rcpt', args=u'TO:') 323 else: 324 str = '%s %s%s' % (cmd, args, CRLF) 325 self.send(str) 326 327 def getreply(self): self = , self.send = >, str = u'rcpt TO:\r\n' /usr/lib64/python2.3/smtplib.py in send(self=, str=u'rcpt TO:\r\n') 313 except socket.error: 314 self.close() 315 raise SMTPServerDisconnected('Server not connected') 316 else: 317 raise SMTPServerDisconnected('please run connect() first') global SMTPServerDisconnected = /srv/web/wiki/ in sendall(self=, *args=(u'rcpt TO:\r\n',)) UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\uff20' in position 22: ordinal not in range(128) __doc__ = 'Unicode encoding error.' __getitem__ = > __init__ = > __module__ = 'exceptions' __str__ = > args = ('ascii', u'rcpt TO:\r\n', 22, 23, 'ordinal not in range(128)') encoding = 'ascii' end = 23 object = u'rcpt TO:\r\n' reason = 'ordinal not in range(128)' start = 22 From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Sat Oct 7 23:16:50 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 19:16:50 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Wiki broken - help needed! In-Reply-To: <20061008011202.485da24a.bugs.michael@gmx.net> References: <20061008011202.485da24a.bugs.michael@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1160263010.31436.16.camel@cutter> On Sun, 2006-10-08 at 01:12 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Somebody with the e-mail address has subscribed > to some Wiki pages and breaks them in several ways: > > * Mail notifications are disabled. I no longer receive mails when > somebody edits such a page. > > * Editing the pages gives a colourful traceback. > It should be fixed now, I think. Users who are unable to input their own email address probably shouldn't be given edit access ;) -sv From bugs.michael at gmx.net Sun Oct 8 01:50:30 2006 From: bugs.michael at gmx.net (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 03:50:30 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Wiki broken - help needed! In-Reply-To: <1160263010.31436.16.camel@cutter> References: <20061008011202.485da24a.bugs.michael@gmx.net> <1160263010.31436.16.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <20061008035030.d7c3412a.bugs.michael@gmx.net> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 19:16:50 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > Somebody with the e-mail address has subscribed > > to some Wiki pages and breaks them in several ways: > > > > * Mail notifications are disabled. I no longer receive mails when > > somebody edits such a page. > > > > * Editing the pages gives a colourful traceback. > > > > It should be fixed now, I think. Yes. Thanks! From email.ahmedkamal at googlemail.com Mon Oct 9 18:54:01 2006 From: email.ahmedkamal at googlemail.com (Ahmed Kamal) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 20:54:01 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Bad email aliases Message-ID: <3da3b5b40610091154j3740bc85oc946ddd5bc584bbf@mail.gmail.com> Hi, The following list of email aliases were found to be bad and will be deleted from the aliases database andr?.proen?a.var?o.nogueira jasper.o'neal.hartline robert.'bob'.jensen ralf.cors?pius devrim.g?nd?z diego.b?rigo.zacar?o m?ir?n.duffy micha?.bentkowski eduardo.villagr?n.morales frank.b?ttner g?rard.milmeister guillermo.g?mez ha?kel.gu?mar hern?n.pachas.magallanes jos?.ab?lio.oliveira.matos john.(j5).palmieri kristian.h?gsberg marius.l..j?hndal mikko.virkkil? micha?.plaugo p?draig.brady rafa?.psota piotr.dr?g r?mulo.de.barros.correia.jales rick.l..vinyard,.jr. radek.vok?l v?clav.m??ek sindre.pedersen.bj?rdal alexander.t?schner andr?s.t?th fran?ois.obada.pathirannahalage jos?.nuno.coelho.sanarra.pires -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Mon Oct 9 19:07:20 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 14:07:20 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Bad email aliases In-Reply-To: <3da3b5b40610091154j3740bc85oc946ddd5bc584bbf@mail.gmail.com> References: <3da3b5b40610091154j3740bc85oc946ddd5bc584bbf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610091207h60e89f1idd36977463ec931e@mail.gmail.com> On 10/9/06, Ahmed Kamal wrote: > Hi, > The following list of email aliases were found to be bad and will be > deleted from the aliases database > > andr?.proen?a.var?o.nogueira > jasper.o'neal.hartline > robert.'bob'.jensen > ralf.cors?pius > devrim.g?nd?z > diego.b?rigo.zacar?o > m?ir?n.duffy > micha?.bentkowski > eduardo.villagr?n.morales > frank.b?ttner > g?rard.milmeister > guillermo.g?mez > ha?kel.gu?mar > hern?n.pachas.magallanes > jos?.ab?lio.oliveira.matos > john.(j5).palmieri > kristian.h?gsberg > marius.l..j?hndal > mikko.virkkil? > micha?.plaugo > p?draig.brady > rafa?.psota > piotr.dr?g > r?mulo.de.barros.correia.jales > rick.l..vinyard,.jr. > radek.vok?l > v?clav.m??ek > sindre.pedersen.bj?rdal > alexander.t?schner > andr?s.t?th > fran?ois.obada.pathirannahalage > jos?.nuno.coelho.sanarra.pires > > Awesome, I guess the real question is, do we want to inform these people, filter them out from the aliases list, or leave them in there? Are they doing any actual harm? -Mike From mgalgoci at redhat.com Mon Oct 9 19:18:31 2006 From: mgalgoci at redhat.com (Matthew Galgoci) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 15:18:31 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Bad email aliases In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610091207h60e89f1idd36977463ec931e@mail.gmail.com> References: <3da3b5b40610091154j3740bc85oc946ddd5bc584bbf@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610091207h60e89f1idd36977463ec931e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > > The following list of email aliases were found to be bad and will be > > deleted from the aliases database > > > > andr??.proen??a.var??o.nogueira > > jasper.o'neal.hartline > > robert.'bob'.jensen > > ralf.cors??pius > > devrim.g??nd??z > > diego.b??rigo.zacar??o > > m??ir??n.duffy > > micha??.bentkowski > > eduardo.villagr??n.morales > > frank.b??ttner > > g??rard.milmeister > > guillermo.g??mez > > ha??kel.gu??mar > > hern??n.pachas.magallanes > > jos??.ab??lio.oliveira.matos > > john.(j5).palmieri > > kristian.h??gsberg > > marius.l..j??hndal > > mikko.virkkil?? > > micha??.plaugo > > p??draig.brady > > rafa??.psota > > piotr.dr??g > > r??mulo.de.barros.correia.jales > > rick.l..vinyard,.jr. > > radek.vok??l > > v??clav.m????ek > > sindre.pedersen.bj??rdal > > alexander.t??schner > > andr??s.t??th > > fran??ois.obada.pathirannahalage > > jos??.nuno.coelho.sanarra.pires > > > > > > Awesome, I guess the real question is, do we want to inform these > people, filter them out from the aliases list, or leave them in there? > Are they doing any actual harm? Whatever you end up doing, just remember, the aliases probably never worked to begin with :) -- Matthew Galgoci IS Production Operations Red Hat, Inc 919.754.3700 x44155 From linux at elfshadow.net Thu Oct 12 20:47:08 2006 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:47:08 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] IRC Meeting Log - 10/12/06 Message-ID: <452EA9CC.5060702@elfshadow.net> This was a shorter meeting today. IRC Log attached. --Jeffrey -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: infra_irc_log_10-12-06.txt URL: From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Sun Oct 15 04:54:24 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 23:54:24 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Mirror stats Message-ID: <3237e4410610142154x3e4a9292pff43cf1c97b383ef@mail.gmail.com> I've been working on some scripts for mining information out of our mirror logs. In addition to the awstats scipts I'm keeping a total archive of all requests in a special format. This will allow us to mine the information as we need to. The current plan is to keep the archives as is until it becomes unmanageable. At present about one months worth of logs gets reduced to about 50 M, about 5M after compression. In case anyone is wondering the logs are being kept on fpserv:/srv/mirrorStats/stats.txt The format is: [08/Oct/2006:05:05:03 a05543977dc854b859da8e365de818b8 rawhide i386 its quick, and easy to run tools against. The second column is a md5 encrypted version of the ip address. Its not perfect but at least its not plain text. I'm sure if someone really wanted to convert these back to IP's they could create a rainbow table or some such silliness but this should pre-empt anyones fears about us stockpiling ip's or any personal information for that matter. Eventually I'll write static frontend pages for this similar to our awstats pages. For those keeping count there's been 17800 unique IP's that have contacted the mirrors server looking for rawhide. -Mike From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Sun Oct 15 05:10:47 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 01:10:47 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Mirror stats In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610142154x3e4a9292pff43cf1c97b383ef@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610142154x3e4a9292pff43cf1c97b383ef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1160889048.28422.76.camel@cutter> On Sat, 2006-10-14 at 23:54 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > I've been working on some scripts for mining information out of our > mirror logs. In addition to the awstats scipts I'm keeping a total > archive of all requests in a special format. This will allow us to > mine the information as we need to. The current plan is to keep the > archives as is until it becomes unmanageable. At present about one > months worth of logs gets reduced to about 50 M, about 5M after > compression. > > In case anyone is wondering the logs are being kept on > fpserv:/srv/mirrorStats/stats.txt > > The format is: > > [08/Oct/2006:05:05:03 a05543977dc854b859da8e365de818b8 rawhide i386 > > its quick, and easy to run tools against. The second column is a md5 > encrypted version of the ip address. Its not perfect but at least its > not plain text. I'm sure if someone really wanted to convert these > back to IP's they could create a rainbow table or some such silliness > but this should pre-empt anyones fears about us stockpiling ip's or > any personal information for that matter. > > Eventually I'll write static frontend pages for this similar to our > awstats pages. For those keeping count there's been 17800 unique IP's > that have contacted the mirrors server looking for rawhide. maybe we could put the stats into rrd's -sv From a.badger at gmail.com Sun Oct 15 10:02:05 2006 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 03:02:05 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Getting packages for Infrastructure Servers Message-ID: <1160906525.2925.3.camel@localhost> Hey guys, Are we still requesting FE-3 branches for any Extras packages we need to install on the Infrastructure Servers? I believe EPEL/RHEL/CentOS branches are in the works but Jeremy hasn't been able to kick that off because of the imminent release of FC-6. -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It also contains a custom 503 error handler that calls our autostart cgi. tg-autostart.cgi: When the turbogears server isn't running already, this script gets invoked to start it up. I was not able to get this to run with FC-5's apache but more tweaking now that I have it working on FC-6 might create something that works. http.avc: This file has the AVC messages that deny the autostart.cgi. Running `audit2allow -M httpd -i http.avc; semodule -i httpd.pp` should get SELinux setup to allow this. pkgdb/dev.cfg: I had to set: server.socket_port=8080 server.socket_host="localhost" in order for TurboGears to work under FC-6. Hope this helps if you're planning to deploy a TurboGears app on an infrastructure box. dgilmore, c4chris: if you get up to speed on kid templates or python programming, this should be set to dive into. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Sun Oct 15 13:18:16 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 08:18:16 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Getting packages for Infrastructure Servers In-Reply-To: <1160906525.2925.3.camel@localhost> References: <1160906525.2925.3.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <3237e4410610150618l75b8bac2wae07d4e84c67992a@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, go ahead and put a request in. -Mike On 10/15/06, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > Hey guys, > > Are we still requesting FE-3 branches for any Extras packages we need to > install on the Infrastructure Servers? I believe EPEL/RHEL/CentOS > branches are in the works but Jeremy hasn't been able to kick that off > because of the imminent release of FC-6. > > -Toshio > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > > > > From gpt at tirloni.org Sun Oct 15 13:07:46 2006 From: gpt at tirloni.org (Giovanni P. Tirloni) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:07:46 -0300 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Introduction Message-ID: <453232A2.5030403@tirloni.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I've been managing FreeBSD and Linux (Redhat, Fedora and CentOS) servers for the past 6 years and I'd like to help the Fedora project in this area. My past job was at an ISP/ASP company and we did outsourcing in Unix too. So I've experience deploying web/mail/db/file servers. I worked there for 4 years (until the begining of this year). In my current job I'm working as a production support analyst and my environment includes Solaris, Oracle, PL/SQL, Python, PHP, Java, Shell script, web services, Control-M, etc. Although the applications don't run on Linux, all our support servers are RHAS and Debian and our tools are written in Python, PHP, Java and Ksh. My main interests are in *nix server deployment/management, grid computing, web services, Java/Python and monitoring. I've applied for an account at the website and created a GPG key. Please let me know where I can be useful for the project. Almost forgot, I'm from Brazil (Campinas/SP, timezone GMT-3). Thank you, - -- Giovanni P. Tirloni http://www.tirloni.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.9.92 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFMjKi/gOXLuCU+mgRAl2cAJ9ExWE8iJvOqtBOTiUZQMkxQY6DjACfcUWe /O68CmkIW2i3vjQxYbrFUvg= =6MfB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Sun Oct 15 14:24:13 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:24:13 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] planet code Message-ID: <1160922253.28422.84.camel@cutter> B/c of the fuckage with coker's planet feed I upgraded planet to the version from fedora extras devel packages. The packages were rebuilt on my centos4 build root in mock. My questions: 1. where do we put packages like this? 2. who else wants to know how to be the planet-maintenance bitch other than me? thanks, -sv From rino.mardo at fedoraproject.org Sun Oct 15 14:42:45 2006 From: rino.mardo at fedoraproject.org (Rino Mardo) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:42:45 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Greetings! Message-ID: <453248E5.50900@fedoraproject.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 hello, i'm a relatively new fedora ambassador (almost a month now) and looking to contribute more to the project. i'm a network and systems administrator and have experience in UNIX/Linux, shell scripts, ssh, to name a few. like many, my foremost problem is Internet connection (speed, ISP) so i won't be able to join you guys in IRC for now (i hope the new ISP will allow IRC). so, looking forward to work with everyone. cheers, -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFMkjlpbTFgaOypuIRAtY3AJ9n3xyT9wTU5S8ZMkKpZrpTPaTO6wCaA18v 3cILo50SXrlt2SvWcj1GtUM= =77U4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dimitris at glezos.com Sun Oct 15 15:08:39 2006 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:08:39 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] TurboGears instance on pkgdb In-Reply-To: <1160909705.2925.33.camel@localhost> References: <1160909705.2925.33.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45324EF7.2010505@glezos.com> First of all, good to hear that we are having progress with the new website tools. :) I'd like to help in the creation of the new tools, so here I am, asking questions about 'em. O/H Toshio Kuratomi ??????: > I wrestled with SELinux, Apache, and TurboGears today and finally got > the packageDB TurboGears instance running[1]_. If you're interested, > the pieces are running behind Apache on test3. You can access it via > ssh tunnel. On your machine:: > ssh -L 8888:test3:80 bastion I guess this should be (for the rest of us) something like: ssh -L 8888:test3:80 bastion.fedora.redhat.com I get the following error: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host > Then browse to http://localhost:8888/pkgdb/ > > [...] > Hope this helps if you're planning to deploy a TurboGears app on an > infrastructure box. dgilmore, c4chris: if you get up to speed on kid > templates or python programming, this should be set to dive into. (I'll > get back to work on importing the data now.) Toshio, can you please give us a bit more details/advices for the whole thing? I am relatively new in Python & Infrastructure and completely new in turbogears, but would nevertheless like to try and help out. -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From rino.mardo at gmail.com Sun Oct 15 15:28:42 2006 From: rino.mardo at gmail.com (Rino Mardo) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:28:42 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Introduction Message-ID: <453253AA.6040005@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 hello, i'm a relatively new fedora ambassador (almost a month now) and looking to contribute more to the project. i'm a network and systems administrator and have experience in UNIX/Linux, shell scripts, ssh, server deployments, postfix (4 years ago), Sun servers, firewalls, remote management. i'm still learning python though i'd like to see it applied somewhere :-). like many, my foremost problem is Internet connection (speed, ISP) so i won't be able to join you guys in IRC for now (i hope the new ISP will allow IRC). looking forward to work with everyone. cheers, -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFMlOqpbTFgaOypuIRAm7RAJ9ypONK/eFBK5O5IyEhEbx3kiUCAgCgicT8 wDe3z/PgPobXPTxOGAk2tU4= =obaq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Sun Oct 15 15:41:15 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:41:15 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] TurboGears instance on pkgdb In-Reply-To: <45324EF7.2010505@glezos.com> References: <1160909705.2925.33.camel@localhost> <45324EF7.2010505@glezos.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610150841h52794ab5tc05dc0baaab761a@mail.gmail.com> On 10/15/06, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > > First of all, good to hear that we are having progress with the new website > tools. :) > > I'd like to help in the creation of the new tools, so here I am, asking > questions about 'em. > > O/H Toshio Kuratomi ??????: > > I wrestled with SELinux, Apache, and TurboGears today and finally got > > the packageDB TurboGears instance running[1]_. If you're interested, > > the pieces are running behind Apache on test3. You can access it via > > ssh tunnel. On your machine:: > > ssh -L 8888:test3:80 bastion > > I guess this should be (for the rest of us) something like: > > ssh -L 8888:test3:80 bastion.fedora.redhat.com > > I get the following error: > > ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host > > > Then browse to http://localhost:8888/pkgdb/ > > > > [...] > > Hope this helps if you're planning to deploy a TurboGears app on an > > infrastructure box. dgilmore, c4chris: if you get up to speed on kid > > templates or python programming, this should be set to dive into. (I'll > > get back to work on importing the data now.) > > Toshio, can you please give us a bit more details/advices for the whole thing? I > am relatively new in Python & Infrastructure and completely new in turbogears, > but would nevertheless like to try and help out. > > -d > One thing we could do is add a proxypass on our proxy servers to the host and make it available at admin.fedoraproject.org/tg-test/ or something. Toshio, what do you think? -Mike From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Sun Oct 15 15:43:58 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:43:58 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] planet code In-Reply-To: <1160922253.28422.84.camel@cutter> References: <1160922253.28422.84.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <3237e4410610150843rc1e37ebmf5b507efa39f5dae@mail.gmail.com> On 10/15/06, seth vidal wrote: > B/c of the fuckage with coker's planet feed I upgraded planet to the > version from fedora extras devel packages. The packages were rebuilt on > my centos4 build root in mock. > > My questions: > 1. where do we put packages like this? > 2. who else wants to know how to be the planet-maintenance bitch other > than me? > > > thanks, > -sv > > We're still keeping these in the RPM cvs on lockbox. We were talking about making a repo for us, then the EPEL thing came up, we're still waiting on it. If you wanted to create a yum repo on fpserv I'll copy the remaining RPM's over to it and create a mirror at the PHX site. -Mike From linux at elfshadow.net Mon Oct 16 01:20:05 2006 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:20:05 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] planet code In-Reply-To: <1160922253.28422.84.camel@cutter> References: <1160922253.28422.84.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <4532DE45.5080803@elfshadow.net> seth vidal wrote: > 2. who else wants to know how to be the planet-maintenance bitch other > than me? I can help out with this... --Jeffrey From farshadkh at gmail.com Mon Oct 16 16:48:52 2006 From: farshadkh at gmail.com (Farshad Khoshkhui) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:18:52 +0330 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Python Help Message-ID: <5c0fad5d0610160948i156a357eq11e5b37c639e8b9b@mail.gmail.com> I'm an experienced python developer, developing with python for about 2 years. My current project is a postgresql backended isp billing application with python and it's about 60,000 lines of python code now. Though the application interaction with web-server is through XML-RPC protocol, I've also experience of web development with php, python and java. I'm familiar with linux system administration, in areas of general networking(ifconfig, iptables, ip, tc), apache, squid, a little bind and everything else I've got into. I'm available for part time helping. -- Farshad Khoshkhui From farshadkh at gmail.com Mon Oct 16 16:48:52 2006 From: farshadkh at gmail.com (Farshad Khoshkhui) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:18:52 +0330 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Python Help Message-ID: <5c0fad5d0610160948i156a357eq11e5b37c639e8b9b@mail.gmail.com> I'm an experienced python developer, developing with python for about 2 years. My current project is a postgresql backended isp billing application with python and it's about 60,000 lines of python code now. Though the application interaction with web-server is through XML-RPC protocol, I've also experience of web development with php, python and java. I'm familiar with linux system administration, in areas of general networking(ifconfig, iptables, ip, tc), apache, squid, a little bind and everything else I've got into. I'm available for part time helping. -- Farshad Khoshkhui From jw at jhop.com Mon Oct 16 18:39:21 2006 From: jw at jhop.com (Jason Watson) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:39:21 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Self-Introduction: Jason Watson Message-ID: <4533D1D9.4090500@jhop.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I'm Jason Watson. I've been following RH/Fedora for a long time, but never got involved. Mike McGrath's email from last night was just the kick I needed to jump in. So here's a little about me using Warren's intro template: 1. Full legal name: Jason Watson * City, Country; Atlanta, GA, USA * Profession: Programmer/SysAdmin/Network/Security/Architect * Affiliation: Representing only myself * Your goals in the Fedora Project: Become more active in the community Historical qualifications o What other projects? I haven't done much in the FOSS world, but here's a couple of sightings: * http://libphidgets.alioth.debian.org/ (Oct 2004) * http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1108091&group_id=8874&atid=308874 (Jan 2005) * http://javax-usb.cvs.sourceforge.net/javax-usb/javax-usb/src/javax/usb/util/UsbUtil.java?view=log (Jun 2005) o What level and type of computer skills do you have? I've been using Linux as my daily OS for 5 years now. I prefer developing in Java, but can get by with almost anything. I can configure and troubleshoot Cisco networks, firewalls, load balancers. I'm well versed in IT security concerns and audit compliance. I have good database skills: PostgreSQL, MySQL, etc. I have a good understanding of all of the pieces that make up a good application. o What other skills do you have that might be applicable? Early employee of a large job-search website, involved in development and operations o What makes you an excellent match for the project? I am very versatile and could be useful in many areas. GPG KEYID and fingerprint pub 1024D/FA60417D 1997-06-19 Key fingerprint = 9325 4C50 696D 5C8C F9B7 0A3A 72F7 8C7D FA60 417D uid Jason D. Watson sub 2048g/57BEA3DA 1997-06-19 I've read through the last 2 meeting minutes. I'm familiar with virtualization using VMWare, but I haven't set up a Xen server before. I can set up a test network of multiple physical and virtual servers in my home network for any testing needs. Turbogears looks interesting, maybe I could be of help there. Looking forward to contributing, Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFM9HRcveMffpgQX0RAntSAJ9v8ldS0LZbd+r8SDLluEM6p0YTqQCgv7U7 L7FlFKzPKQjCOu4vqRXKkzI= =Hn61 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From a.badger at gmail.com Mon Oct 16 22:31:19 2006 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:31:19 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Python Help In-Reply-To: <5c0fad5d0610160948i156a357eq11e5b37c639e8b9b@mail.gmail.com> References: <5c0fad5d0610160948i156a357eq11e5b37c639e8b9b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1161037879.2619.11.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 20:18 +0330, Farshad Khoshkhui wrote: > I'm an experienced python developer, developing with python for about 2 years. > My current project is a postgresql backended isp billing application > with python and it's about 60,000 lines of python code now. Though the > application interaction with web-server is through XML-RPC protocol, > I've also experience of web development with php, python and java. > Great! Much of the development work that we do is in python. Currently, we are creating a few web applications that are written using TurboGears (a framework built out of cherrypy, SQLObject, and kid) with postgreSQL in the backend. A few of the larger projects we're actively working on at the moment are revamping the voting application, accounts front-end and API (the backend is switching to LDAP and the API will need to be worked on for this), and a package database for managing ownership and information about the software packages in Fedora. If you're interested in working on any of these we'll figure out who's currently working on it and how to fit you into the project. > I'm familiar with linux system administration, in areas of general > networking(ifconfig, iptables, ip, tc), apache, squid, a little bind > and everything else I've got into. There are system administration roles as well but I'll let someone else introduce you to those :-) -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From a.badger at gmail.com Mon Oct 16 22:53:10 2006 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:53:10 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] TurboGears instance on pkgdb In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610150841h52794ab5tc05dc0baaab761a@mail.gmail.com> References: <1160909705.2925.33.camel@localhost> <45324EF7.2010505@glezos.com> <3237e4410610150841h52794ab5tc05dc0baaab761a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1161039190.2619.27.camel@localhost> On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 10:41 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > On 10/15/06, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > > > > First of all, good to hear that we are having progress with the new website > > tools. :) > > > > I'd like to help in the creation of the new tools, so here I am, asking > > questions about 'em. > > > > O/H Toshio Kuratomi ??????: > > > I wrestled with SELinux, Apache, and TurboGears today and finally got > > > the packageDB TurboGears instance running[1]_. If you're interested, > > > the pieces are running behind Apache on test3. You can access it via > > > ssh tunnel. On your machine:: > > > ssh -L 8888:test3:80 bastion > > > > I guess this should be (for the rest of us) something like: > > > > ssh -L 8888:test3:80 bastion.fedora.redhat.com > > > > I get the following error: > > > > ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host > > Unfortunately, this won't work without an infrastructure account. Mike has a solution to that, though: > > One thing we could do is add a proxypass on our proxy servers to the > host and make it available at admin.fedoraproject.org/tg-test/ or > something. Toshio, what do you think? That should work fine and solves the immediate problem of letting people who are currently not involved in infrastructure try things out. In order to work on projects with people not yet in infrastructure we'll want to get people access to the code as well. I have a bazaar repository for the packagedb currently: bzr branch http://www.tiki-lounge.com/~toshio/fedora/fedora-packagedb I'll move that into our infrastructure at some point but it should work fine for now. (Bazaar is a distributed system like mercurial and git so it should be easy for people to branch and pass changes back and forth.) The latest version should work with TurboGears 1.0b1 on either FC-5 or FC-6. (TG-1.0 hasn't been built for Extras yet but all the required packages are in so it shouldn't be much longer :-) -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Tue Oct 17 01:40:52 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:40:52 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Welcome newcomers Message-ID: <3237e4410610161840y438b13can486f1240bf572e0@mail.gmail.com> We've had a few new introductions to the list. Welcome! For those ready to jump right in I have two tickets that have been out there for a while. One of which could be fairly easy, the other - not so easy. We've got one outstanding ticket to create something more meaningful when a new account gets created. Anyone with a fedora user account can access and comment on this ticket so if you're interested in working on it, reply to the list and I'll lock it for you. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/tickets/customer.pl?Action=CustomerTicketZoom&TicketID=122 The other task may take quite a bit longer. Unfortunately we don't have a test version of our current accounting system so whoever wants it will have to spend some time installing the various components, databases and getting it up and going. It would be great if they had their own test environment for this, if not we can set you up with one but our resources are limited so it will take longer :) This ticket can be found at: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/tickets/customer.pl?Action=CustomerTicketZoom&TicketID=86 Anyone interested in either of these tickets can let me know and I'll lock it for them. Make sure you reply to the list so we don't have multiple people working on the same issues. Neither of these tickets require sponsorship, just a signed CLA. Those planning on sticking around for a while would be good to find an officer who is in charge of an area that interests you. We can't sponsor everyone just for asking, but offer some help. There's plenty to be done. If you're not interested/able to do these tasks don't worry. Stuff pops up all the time! Take a look at the open bugzilla infrastructure tickets or the open OTRS tickets and see if something else interests you. -Mike From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Tue Oct 17 02:49:16 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:49:16 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] planet code In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610150843rc1e37ebmf5b507efa39f5dae@mail.gmail.com> References: <1160922253.28422.84.camel@cutter> <3237e4410610150843rc1e37ebmf5b507efa39f5dae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1161053356.4174.23.camel@cutter> On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 10:43 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > On 10/15/06, seth vidal wrote: > > B/c of the fuckage with coker's planet feed I upgraded planet to the > > version from fedora extras devel packages. The packages were rebuilt on > > my centos4 build root in mock. > > > > My questions: > > 1. where do we put packages like this? > > 2. who else wants to know how to be the planet-maintenance bitch other > > than me? > > > > > > thanks, > > -sv > > > > > > We're still keeping these in the RPM cvs on lockbox. We were talking > about making a repo for us, then the EPEL thing came up, we're still > waiting on it. If you wanted to create a yum repo on fpserv I'll copy > the remaining RPM's over to it and create a mirror at the PHX site. I'm fine with that - though I'm also fine sticking the repo somewhere else. Even if EPEL came up I'd be reticent to just enable it by default for the systems. -sv From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Tue Oct 17 02:49:52 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:49:52 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] planet code In-Reply-To: <4532DE45.5080803@elfshadow.net> References: <1160922253.28422.84.camel@cutter> <4532DE45.5080803@elfshadow.net> Message-ID: <1161053392.4174.25.camel@cutter> On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 21:20 -0400, Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: > seth vidal wrote: > > 2. who else wants to know how to be the planet-maintenance bitch other > > than me? > > I can help out with this... > okay, cool. Editing them is actually very simple. I'll work on some brief docs and put them in the wiki. Then all we need is to tell people to email the infrastructure list and/or tickets instead of talking to me. thanks. -sv From rino.mardo at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 05:54:37 2006 From: rino.mardo at gmail.com (Rino Mardo) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:54:37 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Welcome newcomers In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610161840y438b13can486f1240bf572e0@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610161840y438b13can486f1240bf572e0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4534701D.8000201@gmail.com> Mike McGrath wrote: > We've had a few new introductions to the list. Welcome! For those > ready to jump right in I have two tickets that have been out there for > a while. One of which could be fairly easy, the other - not so easy. > > We've got one outstanding ticket to create something more meaningful > when a new account gets created. Anyone with a fedora user account > can access and comment on this ticket so if you're interested in > working on it, reply to the list and I'll lock it for you. > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/tickets/customer.pl?Action=CustomerTicketZoom&TicketID=122 > > hmm, i have time and am interested but may need some holding hands here as i don't have enough web app experience. From gx at datisstom.nl Tue Oct 17 07:43:22 2006 From: gx at datisstom.nl (John Kraal) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:43:22 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Introduction of /me Message-ID: <4534899A.6030102@datisstom.nl> Hello, As following "orders" as placed on the GettingStarted page on the wiki; I'll introduce myself a little: I'm John Kraal, currently a professional analyst for a logistics software company which is currently migrating clients from UNIX (AIX and HP-UX) to Fedora and Red Hat based-systems. I'm currently writing scripts in Python and ksh to make installation and support tasks easier (next to the normal things I do, which include programming and designing of software) Fair enough, there is my experience, I write Python (besides UML and C :P) for a living. I've been writing Python for about a year, and C for more than 5 years. Kind regards, John Kraal -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If not, maybe we should create one, or are we planning on working on common XEN test systems in the future? -d > This ticket > can be found at: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/tickets/customer.pl?Action=CustomerTicketZoom&TicketID=86 > > > Anyone interested in either of these tickets can let me know and I'll > lock it for them. Make sure you reply to the list so we don't have > multiple people working on the same issues. Neither of these tickets > require sponsorship, just a signed CLA. Those planning on sticking > around for a while would be good to find an officer who is in charge > of an area that interests you. We can't sponsor everyone just for > asking, but offer some help. There's plenty to be done. > > If you're not interested/able to do these tasks don't worry. Stuff > pops up all the time! Take a look at the open bugzilla infrastructure > tickets or the open OTRS tickets and see if something else interests > you. > > -Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From Christian.Iseli at licr.org Tue Oct 17 11:25:59 2006 From: Christian.Iseli at licr.org (Christian Iseli) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:25:59 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] TurboGears instance on pkgdb In-Reply-To: <1160909705.2925.33.camel@localhost> References: <1160909705.2925.33.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20061017132559.2e37462e@ludwig-alpha> On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 03:55:05 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > I wrestled with SELinux, Apache, and TurboGears today and finally got > the packageDB TurboGears instance running[1]_. If you're interested, > the pieces are running behind Apache on test3. You can access it via > ssh tunnel. On your machine:: > ssh -L 8888:test3:80 bastion > > Then browse to http://localhost:8888/pkgdb/ WorksForMe ! Great :-) > dgilmore, c4chris: if you get up to speed on kid > templates or python programming, this should be set to dive into. (I'll > get back to work on importing the data now.) Got a question here: how do you link a BZ ticket number, plus some approval info, to the "package approved" log entry ? I can try to produce a list in tab-delimited (or other if you prefer) format: - package name - submitted by - submitted date - approved by - approved date - BZ id For older reviews, I could try to dig the info from the mailing list archives... What do you think ? C From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Tue Oct 17 12:32:57 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:32:57 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] epylog reports Message-ID: <1161088377.4174.66.camel@cutter> Hey guys, I've been somewhat annoyed by the reports we've been getting. Is there a compelling reason why we need to have invalid connection attempts to proxy* logged? Why don't we just remove the -J LOG call and REJECT the connection normally? We're not going to DO anything about the connection so why not decrease the garbage that we see in the log reports? -sv From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Tue Oct 17 13:21:31 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:21:31 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Welcome newcomers In-Reply-To: <4534701D.8000201@gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610161840y438b13can486f1240bf572e0@mail.gmail.com> <4534701D.8000201@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610170621h2f7b2a5ao35d3a6323629b51c@mail.gmail.com> On 10/17/06, Rino Mardo wrote: > Mike McGrath wrote: > > We've had a few new introductions to the list. Welcome! For those > > ready to jump right in I have two tickets that have been out there for > > a while. One of which could be fairly easy, the other - not so easy. > > > > We've got one outstanding ticket to create something more meaningful > > when a new account gets created. Anyone with a fedora user account > > can access and comment on this ticket so if you're interested in > > working on it, reply to the list and I'll lock it for you. > > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/tickets/customer.pl?Action=CustomerTicketZoom&TicketID=122 > > > > > > hmm, i have time and am interested but may need some holding hands here > as i don't have enough web app experience. This would be a good place to start. Anything you can't find on google ask the list and we'll help. Though most of us have never looked at the web interface code before so as far as "whats this do" and "how does this work" you'll probably just have to look at the code and figure it out yourself ;-) The actual account system code can be found here: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/fedora-accounts/?root=fedora -Mike From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Tue Oct 17 13:25:14 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:25:14 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Welcome newcomers In-Reply-To: <4534B88E.1090305@glezos.com> References: <3237e4410610161840y438b13can486f1240bf572e0@mail.gmail.com> <4534B88E.1090305@glezos.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610170625v568a4586y5565b12e79075885@mail.gmail.com> On 10/17/06, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > > > O/H Mike McGrath ??????: > > [...] Unfortunately we don't > > have a test version of our current accounting system so whoever wants > > it will have to spend some time installing the various components, > > databases and getting it up and going. It would be great if they had > > their own test environment for this, if not we can set you up with one > > but our resources are limited so it will take longer :) > > Mike, > > is there a page with some more information on how to setup one's own system? If > not, maybe we should create one, or are we planning on working on common XEN > test systems in the future? > > -d > Xen test systems can be built but we only have two xen servers, some of which have (or will have) production systems on them so the number of test systems we can set up is very small. Typically we've been setting them up for collaborative efforts like the future account system and its possible LDAP backend or our future CVS choice. We really are a trial by fire group, not to say that we won't help people out but our resources in time and machines is very small, which is why we are looking for new people :) The account system code can be found here: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/fedora-accounts/?root=fedora At present its using a pgsql backend. -Mike From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Tue Oct 17 13:26:26 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:26:26 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] epylog reports In-Reply-To: <1161088377.4174.66.camel@cutter> References: <1161088377.4174.66.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <3237e4410610170626o7a8151abu71449b3bc87018c8@mail.gmail.com> On 10/17/06, seth vidal wrote: > Hey guys, > I've been somewhat annoyed by the reports we've been getting. Is there > a compelling reason why we need to have invalid connection attempts to > proxy* logged? Why don't we just remove the -J LOG call and REJECT the > connection normally? > > We're not going to DO anything about the connection so why not decrease > the garbage that we see in the log reports? > > -sv > Fine with me, Luke what do you think? -Mike From lmacken at redhat.com Tue Oct 17 15:41:52 2006 From: lmacken at redhat.com (Luke Macken) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:41:52 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] epylog reports In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610170626o7a8151abu71449b3bc87018c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <1161088377.4174.66.camel@cutter> <3237e4410610170626o7a8151abu71449b3bc87018c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061017154152.GM16793@tomservo.nc.rr.com> On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 08:26:26AM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > On 10/17/06, seth vidal wrote: > >Hey guys, > > I've been somewhat annoyed by the reports we've been getting. Is there > >a compelling reason why we need to have invalid connection attempts to > >proxy* logged? Why don't we just remove the -J LOG call and REJECT the > >connection normally? > > > >We're not going to DO anything about the connection so why not decrease > >the garbage that we see in the log reports? > > > >-sv > > > > Fine with me, Luke what do you think? Yeah, that noise definitely needs to stop. I'll poke around at the pyroman configs config later tonight and see if I can stop that. For future reference, all of our firewall configurations are in 'fedora-config/files/DEFAULT/etc/pyroman', and the logging in particular is 04_log.py. So feel free to fix up any problems that you see. This is the chain that is causing the ruckus: ## Log dropped packets in a nicer format add_chain("USR_drop") for state in ("NEW", "ESTABLISHED", "RELATED", "INVALID", "SNAT", "DNAT"): iptables("USR_drop", "-m conntrack --ctstate %s -m limit --limit %s --limit-burst %s -j LOG --log-prefix \"CONN=%s \"" % (state, LOGLIMIT, LOGLIMITBURST, state)) iptables("USR_drop", "-j DROP") I guess the question is, what *do* we want to log? luke From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Tue Oct 17 16:09:55 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:09:55 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] epylog reports In-Reply-To: <20061017154152.GM16793@tomservo.nc.rr.com> References: <1161088377.4174.66.camel@cutter> <3237e4410610170626o7a8151abu71449b3bc87018c8@mail.gmail.com> <20061017154152.GM16793@tomservo.nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <1161101395.4174.122.camel@cutter> On Tue, 2006-10-17 at 11:41 -0400, Luke Macken wrote: > On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 08:26:26AM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On 10/17/06, seth vidal wrote: > > >Hey guys, > > > I've been somewhat annoyed by the reports we've been getting. Is there > > >a compelling reason why we need to have invalid connection attempts to > > >proxy* logged? Why don't we just remove the -J LOG call and REJECT the > > >connection normally? > > > > > >We're not going to DO anything about the connection so why not decrease > > >the garbage that we see in the log reports? > > > > > >-sv > > > > > > > Fine with me, Luke what do you think? > > Yeah, that noise definitely needs to stop. I'll poke around at the > pyroman configs config later tonight and see if I can stop that. > > For future reference, all of our firewall configurations are in > 'fedora-config/files/DEFAULT/etc/pyroman', and the logging in particular > is 04_log.py. So feel free to fix up any problems that you see. > > This is the chain that is causing the ruckus: > > ## Log dropped packets in a nicer format > add_chain("USR_drop") > for state in ("NEW", "ESTABLISHED", "RELATED", "INVALID", "SNAT", "DNAT"): > iptables("USR_drop", "-m conntrack --ctstate %s -m limit --limit %s --limit-burst %s -j LOG --log-prefix \"CONN=%s \"" % (state, LOGLIMIT, LOGLIMITBURST, state)) > iptables("USR_drop", "-j DROP") > > I guess the question is, what *do* we want to log? Do we care? If the packet is being dropped does it matter if we know about it? If we have a problem with a service breaking then we can turn on the logging and track it down - but if things are working why not just leave it off? -sv From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Tue Oct 17 16:23:35 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:23:35 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] epylog reports In-Reply-To: <1161101395.4174.122.camel@cutter> References: <1161088377.4174.66.camel@cutter> <3237e4410610170626o7a8151abu71449b3bc87018c8@mail.gmail.com> <20061017154152.GM16793@tomservo.nc.rr.com> <1161101395.4174.122.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <3237e4410610170923i729b96fbr92c0ee9ed04651a4@mail.gmail.com> On 10/17/06, seth vidal wrote: > On Tue, 2006-10-17 at 11:41 -0400, Luke Macken wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 08:26:26AM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > On 10/17/06, seth vidal wrote: > > > >Hey guys, > > > > I've been somewhat annoyed by the reports we've been getting. Is there > > > >a compelling reason why we need to have invalid connection attempts to > > > >proxy* logged? Why don't we just remove the -J LOG call and REJECT the > > > >connection normally? > > > > > > > >We're not going to DO anything about the connection so why not decrease > > > >the garbage that we see in the log reports? > > > > > > > >-sv > > > > > > > > > > Fine with me, Luke what do you think? > > > > Yeah, that noise definitely needs to stop. I'll poke around at the > > pyroman configs config later tonight and see if I can stop that. > > > > For future reference, all of our firewall configurations are in > > 'fedora-config/files/DEFAULT/etc/pyroman', and the logging in particular > > is 04_log.py. So feel free to fix up any problems that you see. > > > > This is the chain that is causing the ruckus: > > > > ## Log dropped packets in a nicer format > > add_chain("USR_drop") > > for state in ("NEW", "ESTABLISHED", "RELATED", "INVALID", "SNAT", "DNAT"): > > iptables("USR_drop", "-m conntrack --ctstate %s -m limit --limit %s --limit-burst %s -j LOG --log-prefix \"CONN=%s \"" % (state, LOGLIMIT, LOGLIMITBURST, state)) > > iptables("USR_drop", "-j DROP") > > > > I guess the question is, what *do* we want to log? > > Do we care? If the packet is being dropped does it matter if we know > about it? > > If we have a problem with a service breaking then we can turn on the > logging and track it down - but if things are working why not just leave > it off? > > -sv I agree with Seth, It'd be nice to track all this stuff and put it in a separate log file that we can parse and graph and monitor but I don't think we have the resources to really do that yet. Maybe if we get some budget for an IDS box or something :) -Mike From linux at elfshadow.net Tue Oct 17 16:44:14 2006 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:44:14 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] epylog reports In-Reply-To: <1161101395.4174.122.camel@cutter> References: <1161088377.4174.66.camel@cutter> <3237e4410610170626o7a8151abu71449b3bc87018c8@mail.gmail.com> <20061017154152.GM16793@tomservo.nc.rr.com> <1161101395.4174.122.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <4535085E.4060001@elfshadow.net> seth vidal wrote: > Do we care? If the packet is being dropped does it matter if we know > about it? > > If we have a problem with a service breaking then we can turn on the > logging and track it down - but if things are working why not just leave > it off? I also agree. The less noise we need to pick through from the epylog reports will make it that much easier to notice issues we do need to act on. --Jeffrey From lmacken at redhat.com Tue Oct 17 21:39:43 2006 From: lmacken at redhat.com (Luke Macken) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:39:43 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] epylog reports In-Reply-To: <1161101395.4174.122.camel@cutter> References: <1161088377.4174.66.camel@cutter> <3237e4410610170626o7a8151abu71449b3bc87018c8@mail.gmail.com> <20061017154152.GM16793@tomservo.nc.rr.com> <1161101395.4174.122.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <20061017213943.GN16793@tomservo.nc.rr.com> On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 12:09:55PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > On Tue, 2006-10-17 at 11:41 -0400, Luke Macken wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 08:26:26AM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > On 10/17/06, seth vidal wrote: > > > >Hey guys, > > > > I've been somewhat annoyed by the reports we've been getting. Is there > > > >a compelling reason why we need to have invalid connection attempts to > > > >proxy* logged? Why don't we just remove the -J LOG call and REJECT the > > > >connection normally? > > > > > > > >We're not going to DO anything about the connection so why not decrease > > > >the garbage that we see in the log reports? > > > > > > > >-sv > > > > > > > > > > Fine with me, Luke what do you think? > > > > Yeah, that noise definitely needs to stop. I'll poke around at the > > pyroman configs config later tonight and see if I can stop that. > > > > For future reference, all of our firewall configurations are in > > 'fedora-config/files/DEFAULT/etc/pyroman', and the logging in particular > > is 04_log.py. So feel free to fix up any problems that you see. > > > > This is the chain that is causing the ruckus: > > > > ## Log dropped packets in a nicer format > > add_chain("USR_drop") > > for state in ("NEW", "ESTABLISHED", "RELATED", "INVALID", "SNAT", "DNAT"): > > iptables("USR_drop", "-m conntrack --ctstate %s -m limit --limit %s --limit-burst %s -j LOG --log-prefix \"CONN=%s \"" % (state, LOGLIMIT, LOGLIMITBURST, state)) > > iptables("USR_drop", "-j DROP") > > > > I guess the question is, what *do* we want to log? > > Do we care? If the packet is being dropped does it matter if we know > about it? > > If we have a problem with a service breaking then we can turn on the > logging and track it down - but if things are working why not just leave > it off? Works for me. I added a LOGGING variable to 04_log.py, and set it to False by default. We can flip this on later if we need it. luke From lmacken at redhat.com Tue Oct 17 21:47:50 2006 From: lmacken at redhat.com (Luke Macken) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:47:50 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] TurboGears instance on pkgdb In-Reply-To: <1161039190.2619.27.camel@localhost> References: <1160909705.2925.33.camel@localhost> <45324EF7.2010505@glezos.com> <3237e4410610150841h52794ab5tc05dc0baaab761a@mail.gmail.com> <1161039190.2619.27.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20061017214750.GO16793@tomservo.nc.rr.com> On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 03:53:10PM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > The latest version should work with TurboGears 1.0b1 on either FC-5 or > FC-6. (TG-1.0 hasn't been built for Extras yet but all the required > packages are in so it shouldn't be much longer :-) > > -Toshio TurboGears-1.0b1 is now in the Extras devel tree. luke From eric at bootseg.com Wed Oct 18 04:08:18 2006 From: eric at bootseg.com (Eric Kerin) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:08:18 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Another helping hand Message-ID: <1161144498.2418.45.camel@mechanism.localnet> Hello, I'm Eric Kerin, and I am yet another of the people that saw Mike McGrath's email looking for help, and decided to see if I could assist in any way. 1. Full legal name: Eric Kerin * City, Country; St Petersburg, FL, USA * Profession: Enterprise Solutions Specialist (Programmer/DBA/System Support in one) * Affiliation: Just me * Your goals in the Fedora Project: Provide assistance in system administration and programming where I can. * Languages: English Historical qualifications o What other projects? Provide assistance on the Linux-cluster mailing list for issues with the Redhat Cluster Suite. Random patches and assistance with other projects (PostgreSQL, linux-scsi, mozplugger) o What level and type of computer skills do you have? Almost 10 years working with Linux, 6 of which with Linux as my primary operating system both at work, and at home. Five years supporting Linux web and application servers at work. I code primarily in Java, C, Perl, and PHP. (I've had a few brief touches with Python when bugfixes required it.) With varying years of experience for each one (average of 5 or so) 5+ years experience in SQL, database management, and schema design. PostgreSQL is the major one that's relevant here, but I'm fairly well versed in multiple RDBMs. 2 years Experience with Virtual machines (VMWare based) I used GForge and CVS to implement a development tracking system and process at work to meet regulatory requirements. o What other skills do you have that might be applicable? Currently support 24x7x365 production critical servers in multiple locations in the world. So I'm well versed in remote support of systems. I'm experienced in Project management and the proper use of ticket tracking systems. o What makes you an excellent match for the project? I'm a long time Linux user and promoter, and feel I can use knowledge I've gained over the years to give something back to the people working to develop the OS I love. GPG Key info: pub 1024D/73C8CEFD 2006-10-18 [expires: 2011-10-17] Key fingerprint = D6BF DF23 2C8C D7BB 3CE9 5B16 B5C8 49CA 73C8 CEFD uid Eric Kerin sub 2048g/AE9D27D1 2006-10-18 [expires: 2011-10-17] Thanks, Eric Kerin eric at bootseg.com From rino.mardo at gmail.com Wed Oct 18 06:24:25 2006 From: rino.mardo at gmail.com (Rino Mardo) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:24:25 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Welcome newcomers In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610170621h2f7b2a5ao35d3a6323629b51c@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610161840y438b13can486f1240bf572e0@mail.gmail.com> <4534701D.8000201@gmail.com> <3237e4410610170621h2f7b2a5ao35d3a6323629b51c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4535C899.30605@gmail.com> Mike McGrath wrote: >> >> hmm, i have time and am interested but may need some holding hands here >> as i don't have enough web app experience. > > This would be a good place to start. Anything you can't find on > google ask the list and we'll help. Though most of us have never > looked at the web interface code before so as far as "whats this do" > and "how does this work" you'll probably just have to look at the code > and figure it out yourself ;-) > > The actual account system code can be found here: > > http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/fedora-accounts/?root=fedora > > > -Mike > i see the problem. only needs a couple of lines or less. someone tell me is this correct: username at cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvsroot/fedora-accounts for CVSROOT? with repository=fedora or can i access it via ssh? From g+fedora at pkg.fr Wed Oct 18 08:05:48 2006 From: g+fedora at pkg.fr (Guimauve) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:05:48 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1161158748.29060.1.camel@psyborg64.pkg.fr> Hello, to introduce me, I first need to apologize for my frenchy english. RHCE since 3 years, I'm working as Linux consultant and I've time to contribute as I'm working all day long we Fedora Core systems. My own enterprise uses Xen enabled on remote FC5 systems infrastructure to separate mail, dev an web applications. So here is a peace of my skills: - linux and Xen systems administration - system debugging - mail, web, DNS systems administration - bash, perl scripting with system applications: working on a perl based project with a client since 4 years around print migration to RHEL3 from IBM mainframe - Python beginner (I still managed to translate in french and hack Trac v0.9.6 for my enterprise needs) - eternal C/C++ beginner - MySQL/PostgreSQL basic development - packaging RPM - open-minded and meddlesome ("Touche-?-tout" in french) I'm working with x86 and AMD x86_64 computers. I would contribute to any project, and I hope to contribute myself with new project(s) in a while. 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That should get you the source (through ssh): cvs -d :ext:username at cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvs/fedora co fedora-accounts Cheers, C From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Oct 18 14:34:14 2006 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:34:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] git repo Message-ID: Howdy Infrastructure Folks, Any chance we can use some of our recently-acquired hardware to handle this request? In particular, I know David Zeuthen would like it, and I'm sure there are others also. Thanks, Max ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 14:10:53 -0400 From: Christopher Blizzard To: Elliot Lee , Max Spevack , Greg DeKoenigsberg Subject: git? Hey. I have a lot of people asking me if we can have a git repo. They don't like mercurial, and we have to participate with a lot of other projects that do use git (kernel, X, lots of others.) Can we have access to a machine to host git? I'm not sure, but I think the setup is similar to hg. What do you guys think? --Chris From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Wed Oct 18 14:43:09 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:43:09 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] git repo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3237e4410610180743o4ce95514ha03d083d243d1e03@mail.gmail.com> I know we have a git repo set up for the kernel folks right now cvs:/git/kernel What all do they need it for? -Mike On 10/18/06, Max Spevack wrote: > Howdy Infrastructure Folks, > > Any chance we can use some of our recently-acquired hardware to handle > this request? In particular, I know David Zeuthen would like it, and I'm > sure there are others also. > > Thanks, > Max > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 14:10:53 -0400 > From: Christopher Blizzard > To: Elliot Lee , Max Spevack , > Greg DeKoenigsberg > Subject: git? > > Hey. I have a lot of people asking me if we can have a git repo. They > don't like mercurial, and we have to participate with a lot of other > projects that do use git (kernel, X, lots of others.) > > Can we have access to a machine to host git? I'm not sure, but I think > the setup is similar to hg. What do you guys think? > > --Chris > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > From jkeating at redhat.com Wed Oct 18 14:49:09 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:49:09 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] git repo In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610180743o4ce95514ha03d083d243d1e03@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610180743o4ce95514ha03d083d243d1e03@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610181049.10212.jkeating@redhat.com> On Wednesday 18 October 2006 10:43, Mike McGrath wrote: > I know we have a git repo set up for the kernel folks right now > cvs:/git/kernel ?What all do they need it for? And git:/git/kernel since git is an CNAME for cvs. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Great :-) > > > dgilmore, c4chris: if you get up to speed on kid > > templates or python programming, this should be set to dive into. (I'll > > get back to work on importing the data now.) > > Got a question here: how do you link a BZ ticket number, plus some > approval info, to the "package approved" log entry ? > > I can try to produce a list in tab-delimited (or other if you prefer) > format: > - package name > - submitted by > - submitted date > - approved by > - approved date > - BZ id > > For older reviews, I could try to dig the info from the mailing list > archives... > > What do you think ? > I like it. I don't think we have a field for the bugzilla id ATM. We could add it to the Log table (so any log entry could have an optional ticket_number associated with it) or add it to the Package (so the Package has a review_ticket field). 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We've got one outstanding ticket to create something more meaningful when a new account gets created. Anyone with a fedora user account can access and comment on this ticket so if you're interested in working on it, reply to the list and I'll lock it for you. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/tickets/customer.pl?Action=CustomerTicketZoom&TicketID=122 The other task may take quite a bit longer. Unfortunately we don't have a test version of our current accounting system so whoever wants it will have to spend some time installing the various components, databases and getting it up and going. It would be great if they had their own test environment for this, if not we can set you up with one but our resources are limited so it will take longer :) This ticket can be found at: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/tickets/customer.pl?Action=CustomerTicketZoom&TicketID=86 Anyone interested in either of these tickets can let me know and I'll lock it for them. Make sure you reply to the list so we don't have multiple people working on the same issues. Neither of these tickets require sponsorship, just a signed CLA. Those planning on sticking around for a while would be good to find an officer who is in charge of an area that interests you. We can't sponsor everyone just for asking, but offer some help. There's plenty to be done. If you're not interested/able to do these tasks don't worry. Stuff pops up all the time! Take a look at the open bugzilla infrastructure tickets or the open OTRS tickets and see if something else interests you. -Mike From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Thu Oct 19 00:59:09 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:59:09 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] git repo In-Reply-To: <200610181049.10212.jkeating@redhat.com> References: <3237e4410610180743o4ce95514ha03d083d243d1e03@mail.gmail.com> <200610181049.10212.jkeating@redhat.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610181759g7f4a8445gf730f1a76a58c86@mail.gmail.com> On 10/18/06, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Wednesday 18 October 2006 10:43, Mike McGrath wrote: > > I know we have a git repo set up for the kernel folks right now > > cvs:/git/kernel What all do they need it for? > > And git:/git/kernel since git is an CNAME for cvs. > So here's the scoop on the current git repo. Its a kernel only repo for people in the 'gitkernel' group. Chris, what would you like a git repo for and how much space do you think you'll need in the near future? -Mike From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Thu Oct 19 01:51:01 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:51:01 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: Quick project for doc's In-Reply-To: <3237e4410607302007s2db7228bice7e7aa6d933e9ea@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410607302007s2db7228bice7e7aa6d933e9ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610181851q10963417u1613f805d959a839@mail.gmail.com> Here's something I think slipped through the cracks. If someone did it already forgive me. This was initially posted back in July. Any of you Python programers are welcome to take it! Primary contact is Karsten Wade. -Mike ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mike McGrath Date: Jul 30, 2006 10:07 PM Subject: Quick project for doc's To: Fedora Infrastructure Cc: kwade at redhat.com Throwing this out there for anyone interested. Karsten (quaid) has requested a script that will compare the packages between two releases. Below is a quick IRC chat we had. I've been busy with other stuff so I won't be able to get to it right away. The idea of coming to us is maintainability. Whatever we end up with will end up in CVS and maintained by us so anyone out there that's good with Perl/Python/XML sign up. Don't take it if you don't have time to do it, I already did that :) Whoever wants it go ahead and reply to the list so everyone knows, and add it to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Schedule If you need any help let me know and I'll point you in the right direction. -Mike ======== From #fedora-docs =========== [15:16:54] * quaid gets an example [15:17:36] http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc5/#sn-PackageChanges [15:18:06] and someone did help with that list, which I just put into a block [15:19:30] so, you can see a bit of the package info in there, and the designation of if it is coming in or out. [15:20:11] naturally, it would be cool for it to say what happened to a package leaving, such as going to Extra, but that doesn't seem doable ... that info isn't stored anywhere to extract. [15:20:24] so, here is the need, in cascading order: [15:20:29] k [15:20:31] 1. treediff -> a nice list [15:20:39] 2. nice list -> XML list [15:21:06] 3. a nice script that can be run somewhere to let a clueless editor do this easily [15:21:10] [15:21:49] we want to put in the set for each test, etc., so it shows the package changes incrementally in that way. [15:23:25] I got'cha. [15:23:45] So what of that stuff would you like the infrastructure team to do? [15:26:37] quaid: I think I'm following you now, you just really want some scripts to do all of this stuff automatically and then stick the results somewhere for you guys to do some final touches. [15:27:34] mmcgrath: right, although the results could be a 100% valid XML document (header declaring it as e.g. a 'section'), and we really don't need to anything more than XInclude it. [15:28:45] also, a reason for turning to Infrastructure v. cooking it up ourselves in maintainability ... we want something that is part of the formal process and has some support so when e.g. treediff or something changes, the smarts are there to fix it. :) [15:29:57] I don't think that will be too much of a problem. We can at least have SOMETHING to you soon. you'll probably have to get back to me a few times about how to fine tune it From mike_canann at yahoo.com Thu Oct 19 04:50:54 2006 From: mike_canann at yahoo.com (Mike Canann) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:50:54 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Self-Introduction: Mike Canann Message-ID: <4537042E.9000200@yahoo.com> Hello, I'm a new guy to the list, as requested this is my experience and skill level info: * Full name: Michael Canann * Profession: Software Engineer * Your goals in the Fedora Project: Contribute software and system admin. * Languages: English * Historical qualifications * What other projects? Bug fixes and configuration/makefile changes to RapidSVN, and small changes and fixes to other projects. * What level and type of computer skills do you have? Using Red Hat since 97, professionally since 99. Primary languages are C/C++ (10+ years), Perl (8 years), SQL, and QT. Secondary languages Ruby, Java, PHP and Python. * What other skills do you have that might be applicable? System admin for multiple servers, Fedora and Red Hat Enterprise. Project management (SEI CMM), and manage multiple Bugzilla instillations. * What makes you an excellent match for the project? history of Linux programming, system and project administration. * GPG KEYID and fingerprint pub 1024D/FE5030C1 2006-10-17 Michael Canann Key fingerprint = DAAD D303 98FF 04BF C0ED B578 0774 B181 FE50 30C1 sub 1024g/7B461722 2006-10-17 [expires: 2007-09-23] Thanks, Mike Canann From farshadkh at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 13:13:52 2006 From: farshadkh at gmail.com (Farshad Khoshkhui) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:43:52 +0330 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: Welcome newcomers (For the new newcommers :) In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610181309t1cc00750l876c0fc610bd3897@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610181309t1cc00750l876c0fc610bd3897@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5c0fad5d0610190613w77a17ff5ofe951c04541755eb@mail.gmail.com> I took a look at both, and tried to fix them. I've checked out fedora-accounts from cvs, and tried to run the cgis(Preferring to test what I've done before sending to mailing list or commit). I could guess fedora-db-access file format through codes, I've created the database, but I couldn't find the database schema. I expected turbo gears and a template engine, but found pure cgis, with no comments and inline HTML. I volunteer to rewrite fedora-accounts, if it's necessary and I can have a specification of what its doing. IN SHORT: Where can I find fedora-accounts database schema? On 10/18/06, Mike McGrath wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mike McGrath > Date: Oct 16, 2006 8:40 PM > Subject: Welcome newcomers > To: Fedora Infrastructure > > > We've had a few new introductions to the list. Welcome! For those > ready to jump right in I have two tickets that have been out there for > a while. One of which could be fairly easy, the other - not so easy. > > We've got one outstanding ticket to create something more meaningful > when a new account gets created. Anyone with a fedora user account > can access and comment on this ticket so if you're interested in > working on it, reply to the list and I'll lock it for you. > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/tickets/customer.pl?Action=CustomerTicketZoom&TicketID=122 > > The other task may take quite a bit longer. Unfortunately we don't > have a test version of our current accounting system so whoever wants > it will have to spend some time installing the various components, > databases and getting it up and going. It would be great if they had > their own test environment for this, if not we can set you up with one > but our resources are limited so it will take longer :) This ticket > can be found at: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/tickets/customer.pl?Action=CustomerTicketZoom&TicketID=86 > > Anyone interested in either of these tickets can let me know and I'll > lock it for them. Make sure you reply to the list so we don't have > multiple people working on the same issues. Neither of these tickets > require sponsorship, just a signed CLA. Those planning on sticking > around for a while would be good to find an officer who is in charge > of an area that interests you. We can't sponsor everyone just for > asking, but offer some help. There's plenty to be done. > > If you're not interested/able to do these tasks don't worry. Stuff > pops up all the time! Take a look at the open bugzilla infrastructure > tickets or the open OTRS tickets and see if something else interests > you. > > -Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > -- Farshad Khoshkhui From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Thu Oct 19 13:17:54 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:17:54 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: Welcome newcomers (For the new newcommers :) In-Reply-To: <5c0fad5d0610190613w77a17ff5ofe951c04541755eb@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610181309t1cc00750l876c0fc610bd3897@mail.gmail.com> <5c0fad5d0610190613w77a17ff5ofe951c04541755eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610190617o779695b5x1126555b8e0e3d8e@mail.gmail.com> On 10/19/06, Farshad Khoshkhui wrote: > I took a look at both, and tried to fix them. I've checked out > fedora-accounts from cvs, and tried to run the cgis(Preferring to test > what I've done before sending to mailing list or commit). I could > guess fedora-db-access file format through codes, I've created the > database, but I couldn't find the database schema. > > I expected turbo gears and a template engine, but found pure cgis, > with no comments and inline HTML. I volunteer to rewrite > fedora-accounts, if it's necessary and I can have a specification of > what its doing. > > IN SHORT: Where can I find fedora-accounts database schema? http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/fedora-accounts/cvsacct.sql?root=fedora&rev=1.17&view=markup -Mike From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Thu Oct 19 13:41:08 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:41:08 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Self-Introduction: Mike Canann In-Reply-To: <4537042E.9000200@yahoo.com> References: <4537042E.9000200@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610190641n13446035ob3591dc18ad54104@mail.gmail.com> On 10/18/06, Mike Canann wrote: > Hello, > > I'm a new guy to the list, as requested this is my experience and skill level info: > > * Full name: Michael Canann > * Profession: Software Engineer > * Your goals in the Fedora Project: Contribute software and system admin. > * Languages: English > * Historical qualifications > * What other projects? Bug fixes and configuration/makefile changes to RapidSVN, and small changes and fixes to other projects. > * What level and type of computer skills do you have? Using Red Hat since 97, professionally since 99. Primary languages are C/C++ (10+ years), Perl (8 years), SQL, and QT. Secondary languages Ruby, Java, PHP and Python. > * What other skills do you have that might be applicable? System admin for multiple servers, Fedora and Red Hat Enterprise. Project management (SEI CMM), and manage multiple Bugzilla instillations. > * What makes you an excellent match for the project? history of Linux programming, system and project administration. > > * GPG KEYID and fingerprint > pub 1024D/FE5030C1 2006-10-17 Michael Canann > Key fingerprint = DAAD D303 98FF 04BF C0ED B578 0774 B181 FE50 30C1 > sub 1024g/7B461722 2006-10-17 [expires: 2007-09-23] > > > Thanks, > Mike Canann > Welcome Mike, you're welcome to join some of the projects listed on the Schedule page or take a look at the recent threads in the archives for some some stuff that needs to be done. -Mike From mike_canann at yahoo.com Thu Oct 19 14:52:41 2006 From: mike_canann at yahoo.com (Mike Canann) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:52:41 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: Quick project for doc's In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610181851q10963417u1613f805d959a839@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410607302007s2db7228bice7e7aa6d933e9ea@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610181851q10963417u1613f805d959a839@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45379139.3040504@yahoo.com> Where do you get the list of packages for a FC release? And what is the format of that list? -- MikeC Mike McGrath wrote: > Here's something I think slipped through the cracks. If someone did > it already forgive me. This was initially posted back in July. Any > of you Python programers are welcome to take it! Primary contact is > Karsten Wade. > > -Mike > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mike McGrath > Date: Jul 30, 2006 10:07 PM > Subject: Quick project for doc's > To: Fedora Infrastructure > Cc: kwade at redhat.com > > > Throwing this out there for anyone interested. Karsten (quaid) has > requested a script that will compare the packages between two > releases. Below is a quick IRC chat we had. I've been busy with > other stuff so I won't be able to get to it right away. The idea of > coming to us is maintainability. Whatever we end up with will end up > in CVS and maintained by us so anyone out there that's good with > Perl/Python/XML sign up. Don't take it if you don't have time to do > it, I already did that :) Whoever wants it go ahead and reply to the > list so everyone knows, and add it to: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Schedule > > If you need any help let me know and I'll point you in the right direction. > > -Mike > > > ======== From #fedora-docs =========== > [15:16:54] * quaid gets an example > [15:17:36] > http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc5/#sn-PackageChanges > [15:18:06] and someone did help with that list, which I > just put into a block > [15:19:30] so, you can see a bit of the package info in > there, and the designation of if it is coming in or out. > [15:20:11] naturally, it would be cool for it to say what > happened to a package leaving, such as going to Extra, but that > doesn't seem doable > ... that info isn't stored anywhere to extract. > [15:20:24] so, here is the need, in cascading order: > [15:20:29] k > [15:20:31] 1. treediff -> a nice list > [15:20:39] 2. nice list -> XML list > [15:21:06] 3. a nice script that can be run somewhere to > let a clueless editor do this easily > [15:21:10] > [15:21:49] we want to put in the set for each test, etc., > so it shows the package changes incrementally in that way. > [15:23:25] I got'cha. > [15:23:45] So what of that stuff would you like the > infrastructure team to do? > [15:26:37] quaid: I think I'm following you now, you > just really want some scripts to do all of this stuff automatically > and then stick the > results somewhere for you guys to do some final touches. > [15:27:34] mmcgrath: right, although the results could be > a 100% valid XML document (header declaring it as e.g. a 'section'), > and we really > don't need to anything more than XInclude it. > [15:28:45] also, a reason for turning to Infrastructure v. > cooking it up ourselves in maintainability ... we want something that > is part of > the formal process and has some support so when e.g. treediff or > something changes, the smarts are there to fix it. :) > [15:29:57] I don't think that will be too much of a > problem. We can at least have SOMETHING to you soon. you'll probably > have to get back > to me a few times about how to fine tune it > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Thu Oct 19 14:56:08 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:56:08 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: Quick project for doc's In-Reply-To: <45379139.3040504@yahoo.com> References: <3237e4410607302007s2db7228bice7e7aa6d933e9ea@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610181851q10963417u1613f805d959a839@mail.gmail.com> <45379139.3040504@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610190756v7e16e899jaca5bf36ac352de@mail.gmail.com> On 10/19/06, Mike Canann wrote: > Where do you get the list of packages for a FC release? And what is the > format of that list? > You'll have to talk to Karsten for that information. Your best bet is to try to catch him in the #fedora-docs channel on freenode (quaid). This is actually a tricky project with tricky logic because of things like, what do you do if a package gets renamed? Replaced, moved to extras, moved from extras, etc. -Mike From rino.mardo at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 15:20:33 2006 From: rino.mardo at gmail.com (Rino Mardo) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:20:33 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: Welcome newcomers (For the new newcommers :) In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610190617o779695b5x1126555b8e0e3d8e@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610181309t1cc00750l876c0fc610bd3897@mail.gmail.com> <5c0fad5d0610190613w77a17ff5ofe951c04541755eb@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610190617o779695b5x1126555b8e0e3d8e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <453797C1.7020207@gmail.com> Mike McGrath wrote: > On 10/19/06, Farshad Khoshkhui wrote: >> I took a look at both, and tried to fix them. I've checked out >> fedora-accounts from cvs, and tried to run the cgis(Preferring to test >> what I've done before sending to mailing list or commit). I could >> guess fedora-db-access file format through codes, I've created the >> database, but I couldn't find the database schema. >> >> I expected turbo gears and a template engine, but found pure cgis, >> with no comments and inline HTML. I volunteer to rewrite >> fedora-accounts, if it's necessary and I can have a specification of >> what its doing. >> >> IN SHORT: Where can I find fedora-accounts database schema? > > http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/fedora-accounts/cvsacct.sql?root=fedora&rev=1.17&view=markup > so who is editing what? isn't ticket 22 locked yet? From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Thu Oct 19 15:21:50 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:21:50 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: Welcome newcomers (For the new newcommers :) In-Reply-To: <453797C1.7020207@gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610181309t1cc00750l876c0fc610bd3897@mail.gmail.com> <5c0fad5d0610190613w77a17ff5ofe951c04541755eb@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610190617o779695b5x1126555b8e0e3d8e@mail.gmail.com> <453797C1.7020207@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610190821t5a7dd211l4cb9cff9730809d6@mail.gmail.com> On 10/19/06, Rino Mardo wrote: > Mike McGrath wrote: > > On 10/19/06, Farshad Khoshkhui wrote: > >> I took a look at both, and tried to fix them. I've checked out > >> fedora-accounts from cvs, and tried to run the cgis(Preferring to test > >> what I've done before sending to mailing list or commit). I could > >> guess fedora-db-access file format through codes, I've created the > >> database, but I couldn't find the database schema. > >> > >> I expected turbo gears and a template engine, but found pure cgis, > >> with no comments and inline HTML. I volunteer to rewrite > >> fedora-accounts, if it's necessary and I can have a specification of > >> what its doing. > >> > >> IN SHORT: Where can I find fedora-accounts database schema? > > > > http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/fedora-accounts/cvsacct.sql?root=fedora&rev=1.17&view=markup > > > > so who is editing what? isn't ticket 22 locked yet? > I haven't heard from anyone saying "I'm working on this, please lock it" -Mike From rino.mardo at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 15:26:33 2006 From: rino.mardo at gmail.com (Rino Mardo) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:26:33 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: Welcome newcomers (For the new newcommers :) In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610190821t5a7dd211l4cb9cff9730809d6@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610181309t1cc00750l876c0fc610bd3897@mail.gmail.com> <5c0fad5d0610190613w77a17ff5ofe951c04541755eb@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610190617o779695b5x1126555b8e0e3d8e@mail.gmail.com> <453797C1.7020207@gmail.com> <3237e4410610190821t5a7dd211l4cb9cff9730809d6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45379929.7080000@gmail.com> Mike McGrath wrote: >> >> so who is editing what? isn't ticket 22 locked yet? >> > > > I haven't heard from anyone saying "I'm working on this, please lock it" > > -Mike > my bad. please lock 22 for me. i'm working on it. ;-) From bugs.michael at gmx.net Thu Oct 19 15:51:49 2006 From: bugs.michael at gmx.net (Michael Schwendt) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:51:49 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: Quick project for doc's In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610190756v7e16e899jaca5bf36ac352de@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410607302007s2db7228bice7e7aa6d933e9ea@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610181851q10963417u1613f805d959a839@mail.gmail.com> <45379139.3040504@yahoo.com> <3237e4410610190756v7e16e899jaca5bf36ac352de@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061019175149.b297beee.bugs.michael@gmx.net> On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:56:08 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > On 10/19/06, Mike Canann wrote: > > > Where do you get the list of packages for a FC release? And what is the > > format of that list? Best would be local on-disk access to all the repository trees you need, since for some features you need access to more than the package file names. A good start would be to compare Yum metadata of multiple repositories, e.g. fedora-core-5-i386 and fedora-core-development-i386, but for examining some details in the RPM package headers, you need to download copies of the headers (e.g. for Obsoletes etc.) > You'll have to talk to Karsten for that information. Your best bet is > to try to catch him in the #fedora-docs channel on freenode (quaid). > This is actually a tricky project with tricky logic because of things > like, what do you do if a package gets renamed? Replaced, moved to > extras, moved from extras, etc. Well, an rpm that gets renamed either "Provides: oldname = ..." or is gone and only appears in a new package as "Obsoletes: oldname". From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Thu Oct 19 16:11:56 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:11:56 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: Welcome newcomers (For the new newcommers :) In-Reply-To: <45379929.7080000@gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610181309t1cc00750l876c0fc610bd3897@mail.gmail.com> <5c0fad5d0610190613w77a17ff5ofe951c04541755eb@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610190617o779695b5x1126555b8e0e3d8e@mail.gmail.com> <453797C1.7020207@gmail.com> <3237e4410610190821t5a7dd211l4cb9cff9730809d6@mail.gmail.com> <45379929.7080000@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610190911i7c20cd40t411857d51a53a0f3@mail.gmail.com> On 10/19/06, Rino Mardo wrote: > Mike McGrath wrote: > >> > >> so who is editing what? isn't ticket 22 locked yet? > >> > > > > > > I haven't heard from anyone saying "I'm working on this, please lock it" > > > > -Mike > > > > my bad. please lock 22 for me. i'm working on it. ;-) > Locked. -Mike From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Thu Oct 19 16:40:52 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:40:52 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Meeting Reminder Message-ID: <3237e4410610190940gfe60254u1dd1ab63f28a3e@mail.gmail.com> Just a reminder for the new people, we have a meeting today in #fedora-admin at 20:00 UTC. For more info see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Meetings -Mike From mario at verbelen.org Thu Oct 19 16:42:54 2006 From: mario at verbelen.org (Mario Verbelen) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:42:54 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Introduction Message-ID: <1161276174.4914.18.camel@leo> Hi All, I'm new here and to introduce me here a small list of what I'm doing, Full Name: Mario Verbelen Profession: Linux/network engineer My goals: learning allot Languages: dutch and a little English Most of my time I'm working on learning usefully application (most of them network tools) Sins 1999 I'm working with rpm based distro's At the moment I'm working with rhes, centos and fedora skills-, advanced administration of lvm, partitioning, kernel, filesystems, bash scripting, networking tools(ebtables, iptables, qos, bridging, wireshark/ethereal/tcpdump, bind, ntp, apache, cacti, ...) as newbie programmer am also playing with php/mysql Other skills-, cisco, checkpoint, nokia, san, vmware(exs/vc) .... 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And what is the > > > format of that list? > > Best would be local on-disk access to all the repository trees you need, > since for some features you need access to more than the package file > names. > > A good start would be to compare Yum metadata of multiple repositories, > e.g. fedora-core-5-i386 and fedora-core-development-i386, but for > examining some details in the RPM package headers, you need to > download copies of the headers (e.g. for Obsoletes etc.) > > > You'll have to talk to Karsten for that information. Your best bet is > > to try to catch him in the #fedora-docs channel on freenode (quaid). > > This is actually a tricky project with tricky logic because of things > > like, what do you do if a package gets renamed? Replaced, moved to > > extras, moved from extras, etc. > > Well, an rpm that gets renamed either "Provides: oldname = ..." or is > gone and only appears in a new package as "Obsoletes: oldname". > Looks like somethings already been created: http://people.redhat.com/jkeating/treediff2.py Someone needs to sync up with Karsten and find out if this does everything thats needed. -Mike From dimitris at glezos.com Thu Oct 19 17:03:12 2006 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:03:12 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Infrastructure page listing members Message-ID: <4537AFD0.7010206@glezos.com> Since a lot of new members have arrived (yay, welcome all! :) I suggest we create a wiki page listing all members (active, inactive, prospective ones) and the things they love to do, similar to this one: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/Contributors Probably include a column "Sponsor" too? (And also add a step "Add yourself to the list of team members on the Contributors page." in the steps-for-new-members.) -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, PGP: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From rino.mardo at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 20:40:40 2006 From: rino.mardo at gmail.com (Rino Mardo) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:40:40 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: Welcome newcomers (For the new newcommers :) In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610190911i7c20cd40t411857d51a53a0f3@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610181309t1cc00750l876c0fc610bd3897@mail.gmail.com> <5c0fad5d0610190613w77a17ff5ofe951c04541755eb@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610190617o779695b5x1126555b8e0e3d8e@mail.gmail.com> <453797C1.7020207@gmail.com> <3237e4410610190821t5a7dd211l4cb9cff9730809d6@mail.gmail.com> <45379929.7080000@gmail.com> <3237e4410610190911i7c20cd40t411857d51a53a0f3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4537E2C8.7090401@gmail.com> Mike McGrath wrote: >> >> my bad. please lock 22 for me. i'm working on it. ;-) >> > > > Locked. > > -Mike > bummer. all attempts to connect to cvs failed. tried ssh also no can do. $@#!!$ isp. please unlock 22. let others who can connect try. sorry folks. can't irc too. double bummer. From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Thu Oct 19 20:50:32 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:50:32 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Git and Bazaar Message-ID: <3237e4410610191350v672d9fafnada7f8d77f867353@mail.gmail.com> Any of the Infrastructure team have any Git or Bazaar experience? -Mike From linux at elfshadow.net Thu Oct 19 21:08:02 2006 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:08:02 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] IRC Meeting Log - 10/19/06 Message-ID: <4537E932.8080506@elfshadow.net> The IRC log from today's Infrastructure meeting is attached. --Jeffrey -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: infra_irc_log_10-19-06.txt URL: From linux at elfshadow.net Fri Oct 20 03:11:36 2006 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:11:36 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] planet code In-Reply-To: <1161053392.4174.25.camel@cutter> References: <1160922253.28422.84.camel@cutter> <4532DE45.5080803@elfshadow.net> <1161053392.4174.25.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <45383E68.9060207@elfshadow.net> seth vidal wrote: > okay, cool. Editing them is actually very simple. I'll work on some > brief docs and put them in the wiki. I created the start of a doc page for this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/InfrastructurePrivate/FedoraPeopleConfig It really only covers adding a feed to Fedora People, along with a few file locations and what scripts are called to parse the feeds. It doesn't cover any of the templates. I have marked it as a draft only until Seth has a chance to look it over. Seth, feel free to either add to that page any tips and tricks that need to be on there or scrap that page completely if it's just easier to start with your own work! :) --Jeffrey From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Fri Oct 20 06:02:20 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:02:20 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] mirrors cgi and load Message-ID: <1161324140.10399.56.camel@cutter> So, In a bit of a concern I was thinking about the response time from the mirror cgi and also other load concerns. I was wondering if we had considered making mirrors.fedoraproject.org a round robin or load-balanced location between the duke site its on now and another site, possibly at PHX. The sqlite db of the data after a check should be small enough to quickly rsync between the two sites and this would help with load on the main fedoraproject.org system I would think. What do y'all think about implementing something like that in the next few days before FC6 final? It feels like it is just: 1. dns entry addition 2. vhost addition on one of the phx boxes 3. an rsync+ssh key at the end of the checker cron job -sv From farshadkh at gmail.com Fri Oct 20 07:48:12 2006 From: farshadkh at gmail.com (Farshad Khoshkhui) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:18:12 +0330 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: Welcome newcomers (For the new newcommers :) In-Reply-To: <4537E2C8.7090401@gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610181309t1cc00750l876c0fc610bd3897@mail.gmail.com> <5c0fad5d0610190613w77a17ff5ofe951c04541755eb@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610190617o779695b5x1126555b8e0e3d8e@mail.gmail.com> <453797C1.7020207@gmail.com> <3237e4410610190821t5a7dd211l4cb9cff9730809d6@mail.gmail.com> <45379929.7080000@gmail.com> <3237e4410610190911i7c20cd40t411857d51a53a0f3@mail.gmail.com> <4537E2C8.7090401@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5c0fad5d0610200048h5c664377uab46aa729d5aa96e@mail.gmail.com> I'll get both 122 and 86 done today. please lock em for me. On 10/20/06, Rino Mardo wrote: > Mike McGrath wrote: > >> > >> my bad. please lock 22 for me. i'm working on it. ;-) > >> > > > > > > Locked. > > > > -Mike > > > > bummer. all attempts to connect to cvs failed. tried ssh also no can do. > $@#!!$ isp. > > please unlock 22. let others who can connect try. sorry folks. can't irc > too. double bummer. > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > -- Farshad Khoshkhui From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Fri Oct 20 13:07:20 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:07:20 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] mirrors cgi and load In-Reply-To: <1161324140.10399.56.camel@cutter> References: <1161324140.10399.56.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <3237e4410610200607s565e965dse775139e785d2c56@mail.gmail.com> On 10/20/06, seth vidal wrote: > So, In a bit of a concern I was thinking about the response time from > the mirror cgi and also other load concerns. I was wondering if we had > considered making mirrors.fedoraproject.org a round robin or > load-balanced location between the duke site its on now and another > site, possibly at PHX. The sqlite db of the data after a check should be > small enough to quickly rsync between the two sites and this would help > with load on the main fedoraproject.org system I would think. > > What do y'all think about implementing something like that in the next > few days before FC6 final? > > It feels like it is just: > 1. dns entry addition > 2. vhost addition on one of the phx boxes > 3. an rsync+ssh key at the end of the checker cron job > > > -sv > This was on our list of things TODO but never quite made it. It should be pretty trivial to set up and would be useful not just for balancing load but for availability as well. I'll just have to add some log aggregation to my script. -Mike From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Fri Oct 20 13:10:10 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:10:10 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: Welcome newcomers (For the new newcommers :) In-Reply-To: <5c0fad5d0610200048h5c664377uab46aa729d5aa96e@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610181309t1cc00750l876c0fc610bd3897@mail.gmail.com> <5c0fad5d0610190613w77a17ff5ofe951c04541755eb@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610190617o779695b5x1126555b8e0e3d8e@mail.gmail.com> <453797C1.7020207@gmail.com> <3237e4410610190821t5a7dd211l4cb9cff9730809d6@mail.gmail.com> <45379929.7080000@gmail.com> <3237e4410610190911i7c20cd40t411857d51a53a0f3@mail.gmail.com> <4537E2C8.7090401@gmail.com> <5c0fad5d0610200048h5c664377uab46aa729d5aa96e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610200610n68238bb7r890d8b8acd76b5ea@mail.gmail.com> On 10/20/06, Farshad Khoshkhui wrote: > I'll get both 122 and 86 done today. please lock em for me. Locked From farshadkh at gmail.com Fri Oct 20 13:19:01 2006 From: farshadkh at gmail.com (Farshad Khoshkhui) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:49:01 +0330 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: Welcome newcomers (For the new newcommers :) In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610200610n68238bb7r890d8b8acd76b5ea@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610181309t1cc00750l876c0fc610bd3897@mail.gmail.com> <5c0fad5d0610190613w77a17ff5ofe951c04541755eb@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610190617o779695b5x1126555b8e0e3d8e@mail.gmail.com> <453797C1.7020207@gmail.com> <3237e4410610190821t5a7dd211l4cb9cff9730809d6@mail.gmail.com> <45379929.7080000@gmail.com> <3237e4410610190911i7c20cd40t411857d51a53a0f3@mail.gmail.com> <4537E2C8.7090401@gmail.com> <5c0fad5d0610200048h5c664377uab46aa729d5aa96e@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610200610n68238bb7r890d8b8acd76b5ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5c0fad5d0610200619j63b8979bjb0c2f8be50346ee0@mail.gmail.com> 122 has been done, and 86 wasn't reproducible in current cvs. Any other job for me? On 10/20/06, Mike McGrath wrote: > On 10/20/06, Farshad Khoshkhui wrote: > > I'll get both 122 and 86 done today. please lock em for me. > > Locked > -- Farshad Khoshkhui From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Fri Oct 20 13:31:39 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:31:39 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: Welcome newcomers (For the new newcommers :) In-Reply-To: <5c0fad5d0610200619j63b8979bjb0c2f8be50346ee0@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610181309t1cc00750l876c0fc610bd3897@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610190617o779695b5x1126555b8e0e3d8e@mail.gmail.com> <453797C1.7020207@gmail.com> <3237e4410610190821t5a7dd211l4cb9cff9730809d6@mail.gmail.com> <45379929.7080000@gmail.com> <3237e4410610190911i7c20cd40t411857d51a53a0f3@mail.gmail.com> <4537E2C8.7090401@gmail.com> <5c0fad5d0610200048h5c664377uab46aa729d5aa96e@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610200610n68238bb7r890d8b8acd76b5ea@mail.gmail.com> <5c0fad5d0610200619j63b8979bjb0c2f8be50346ee0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610200631s6d129cb7l66a50c3ebdcea187@mail.gmail.com> On 10/20/06, Farshad Khoshkhui wrote: > 122 has been done, and 86 wasn't reproducible in current cvs. Any > other job for me? Where's the patch for 122? -Mike From farshadkh at gmail.com Fri Oct 20 13:35:04 2006 From: farshadkh at gmail.com (Farshad Khoshkhui) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:05:04 +0330 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: Welcome newcomers (For the new newcommers :) In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610200631s6d129cb7l66a50c3ebdcea187@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610181309t1cc00750l876c0fc610bd3897@mail.gmail.com> <453797C1.7020207@gmail.com> <3237e4410610190821t5a7dd211l4cb9cff9730809d6@mail.gmail.com> <45379929.7080000@gmail.com> <3237e4410610190911i7c20cd40t411857d51a53a0f3@mail.gmail.com> <4537E2C8.7090401@gmail.com> <5c0fad5d0610200048h5c664377uab46aa729d5aa96e@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610200610n68238bb7r890d8b8acd76b5ea@mail.gmail.com> <5c0fad5d0610200619j63b8979bjb0c2f8be50346ee0@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610200631s6d129cb7l66a50c3ebdcea187@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5c0fad5d0610200635l57a74c1cu347266ae6ca438d6@mail.gmail.com> On 10/20/06, Mike McGrath wrote: > On 10/20/06, Farshad Khoshkhui wrote: > > 122 has been done, and 86 wasn't reproducible in current cvs. Any > > other job for me? > > Where's the patch for 122? > > -Mike > Attached to the ticket. Should I send it here too? Farshad Khoshkhui From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Fri Oct 20 13:45:54 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:45:54 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Priorities Message-ID: <3237e4410610200645p15787804m454faf27e34d79ef@mail.gmail.com> As per our meeting yesterday we have some deadlines coming up and some priorities to meet. We've identified 3 projects which must be done before FC7 ships and one project which would be nice to have done by then. 1) Install and have the devs work with various VCS solutions and pick our future one (even if that is to just stick with CVS). Hopefully we'll be able to eliminate some early runners so we can focus on just a few. We're tracking this information in: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/VersionControl/ArchitectureDraft 2) RPM database: this could be a great tool. Here's the current roadmap: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/PackageDatabase/RoadMap 3) Fedora Updates System - A system for pushing out our updated packages. Here's its project page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UpdateSystem 4) The New Accounts system - This is one we have to make sure we spend the time to get right. It would be nice to have something by FC7 but that's not a must. Its project page is: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/AccountSystem2 All of these areas are going to need help some right away some not for a while. For the newcommers interested in working on these projects I'd suggest being patient and taking some time to learn a bit about each of the projects and where it is. Then contact the project leader for various tasks. Project leaders.... have some tasks ready ;-) -Mike From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Fri Oct 20 14:19:58 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:19:58 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Priorities In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610200645p15787804m454faf27e34d79ef@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610200645p15787804m454faf27e34d79ef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1161353998.14633.7.camel@cutter> On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 08:45 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > As per our meeting yesterday we have some deadlines coming up and some > priorities to meet. We've identified 3 projects which must be done > before FC7 ships and one project which would be nice to have done by > then. > > 1) Install and have the devs work with various VCS solutions and pick > our future one (even if that is to just stick with CVS). Hopefully > we'll be able to eliminate some early runners so we can focus on just > a few. We're tracking this information in: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/VersionControl/ArchitectureDraft > > 2) RPM database: this could be a great tool. Here's the current > roadmap: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/PackageDatabase/RoadMap Stop calling it an rpm database, please. I think that name is fairly well reserved for the one on each systems' disk. :) -sv From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Fri Oct 20 14:25:23 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:25:23 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Priorities In-Reply-To: <1161353998.14633.7.camel@cutter> References: <3237e4410610200645p15787804m454faf27e34d79ef@mail.gmail.com> <1161353998.14633.7.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <3237e4410610200725h21351a8bl149ac027684a7b1d@mail.gmail.com> On 10/20/06, seth vidal wrote: > On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 08:45 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > As per our meeting yesterday we have some deadlines coming up and some > > priorities to meet. We've identified 3 projects which must be done > > before FC7 ships and one project which would be nice to have done by > > then. > > > > 1) Install and have the devs work with various VCS solutions and pick > > our future one (even if that is to just stick with CVS). Hopefully > > we'll be able to eliminate some early runners so we can focus on just > > a few. We're tracking this information in: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/VersionControl/ArchitectureDraft > > > > 2) Package database: this could be a great tool. Here's the current > > roadmap: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/PackageDatabase/RoadMap > > Stop calling it an rpm database, please. I think that name is fairly > well reserved for the one on each systems' disk. :) > What are you talking about ;-) -Mike From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Fri Oct 20 14:29:04 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:29:04 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Priorities In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610200725h21351a8bl149ac027684a7b1d@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610200645p15787804m454faf27e34d79ef@mail.gmail.com> <1161353998.14633.7.camel@cutter> <3237e4410610200725h21351a8bl149ac027684a7b1d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1161354544.14633.19.camel@cutter> On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 09:25 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > On 10/20/06, seth vidal wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 08:45 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > As per our meeting yesterday we have some deadlines coming up and some > > > priorities to meet. We've identified 3 projects which must be done > > > before FC7 ships and one project which would be nice to have done by > > > then. > > > > > > 1) Install and have the devs work with various VCS solutions and pick > > > our future one (even if that is to just stick with CVS). Hopefully > > > we'll be able to eliminate some early runners so we can focus on just > > > a few. We're tracking this information in: > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/VersionControl/ArchitectureDraft > > > > > > 2) Package database: this could be a great tool. Here's the current > > > roadmap: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/PackageDatabase/RoadMap > > > > Stop calling it an rpm database, please. I think that name is fairly > > well reserved for the one on each systems' disk. :) > > > > What are you talking about ;-) > Cute. I'm talking about this: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/private/fedora-infrastructure-list/2006-October/msg00105.html /me loves archives! :) -sv From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Fri Oct 20 14:53:26 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:53:26 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fedora Project and Hosting Message-ID: <3237e4410610200753l66c334aarde60c496c9be849a@mail.gmail.com> Just so you guys are aware, we're discussing hosting on the FAB list https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2006-October/msg00122.html -Mike From damian.myerscough at gmail.com Fri Oct 20 15:18:39 2006 From: damian.myerscough at gmail.com (Damian Myerscough) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:18:39 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Wiki Logs Message-ID: <8c9e56490610200818u6a105236mbeabcb561d7e4056@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I just wanted some confermition, is the fedoraproject.org site hosted on fpserv? and also does it have direct access to the lockbox machine e.g. it dosnt have to go through bastion? From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Fri Oct 20 15:20:31 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:20:31 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Wiki Logs In-Reply-To: <8c9e56490610200818u6a105236mbeabcb561d7e4056@mail.gmail.com> References: <8c9e56490610200818u6a105236mbeabcb561d7e4056@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610200820x27a753bau594fce7c42230b04@mail.gmail.com> On 10/20/06, Damian Myerscough wrote: > Hi, > > I just wanted some confermition, is the fedoraproject.org site hosted on fpserv? > and also does it have direct access to the lockbox machine e.g. it dosnt > have to go through bastion? > yes on fpserv. It does not have direct access to lockbox but lockbox does have direct access to it. -Mike From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Fri Oct 20 17:09:34 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:09:34 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] [Fwd: Cron run-parts /etc/cron.hourly] Message-ID: <1161364174.14633.48.camel@cutter> umm, wtf. -sv -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Cron Daemon To: root at fpserv.linux.duke.edu Subject: Cron run-parts /etc/cron.hourly Date: Tue, 10 Sep 611 04:18:02 -0500 (EST) /etc/cron.hourly/make-shell-accounts: /bin/tar: ./jeffreyt.pub: implausibly old time stamp 0611-09-10 04:18:02 /bin/tar: ./jeffreyt.pub: time stamp 2006-10-20 11:01:03 is 44025486181 s in the future /bin/tar: ./wtogami.pub: implausibly old time stamp 0611-09-10 04:18:02 /bin/tar: ./wtogami.pub: time stamp 2006-10-20 11:01:03 is 44025486181 s in the future /bin/tar: ./jtr.pub: implausibly old time stamp 0611-09-10 04:18:02 /bin/tar: ./jtr.pub: time stamp 2006-10-20 11:01:03 is 44025486181 s in the future /bin/tar: ./ja8sun.pub: implausibly old time stamp 0611-09-10 04:18:02 /bin/tar: ./ja8sun.pub: time stamp 2006-10-20 11:01:03 is 44025486181 s in the future /bin/tar: ./mmcgrath.pub: implausibly old time stamp 0611-09-10 04:18:02 /bin/tar: ./mmcgrath.pub: time stamp 2006-10-20 11:01:03 is 44025486181 s in the future /bin/tar: ./nman64.pub: implausibly old time stamp 0611-09-10 04:18:02 /bin/tar: ./nman64.pub: time stamp 2006-10-20 11:01:03 is 44025486181 s in the future /bin/tar: ./lmacken.pub: implausibly old time stamp 0611-09-10 04:18:02 /bin/tar: ./lmacken.pub: time stamp 2006-10-20 11:01:03 is 44025486181 s in the future /bin/tar: ./mschwendt.pub: implausibly old time stamp 0611-09-10 04:18:02 /bin/tar: ./mschwendt.pub: time stamp 2006-10-20 11:01:02 is 44025486180 s in the future /bin/tar: ./katzj.pub: implausibly old time stamp 0611-09-10 04:18:02 /bin/tar: ./katzj.pub: time stamp 2006-10-20 11:01:02 is 44025486180 s in the future /bin/tar: ./passwd: implausibly old time stamp 0611-09-10 04:18:02 /bin/tar: ./passwd: time stamp 2006-10-20 11:01:03 is 44025486181 s in the future /bin/tar: ./toshio.pub: implausibly old time stamp 0611-09-10 04:18:02 /bin/tar: ./toshio.pub: time stamp 2006-10-20 11:01:03 is 44025486181 s in the future /bin/tar: ./notting.pub: implausibly old time stamp 0611-09-10 04:18:02 /bin/tar: ./notting.pub: time stamp 2006-10-20 11:01:02 is 44025486180 s in the future /bin/tar: ./scop.pub: implausibly old time stamp 0611-09-10 04:18:02 /bin/tar: ./scop.pub: time stamp 2006-10-20 11:01:02 is 44025486180 s in the future /bin/tar: ./damian.pub: implausibly old time stamp 0611-09-10 04:18:02 /bin/tar: ./damian.pub: time stamp 2006-10-20 11:01:03 is 44025486181 s in the future /bin/tar: ./ausil.pub: implausibly old time stamp 0611-09-10 04:18:02 /bin/tar: ./ausil.pub: time stamp 2006-10-20 11:01:03 is 44025486181 s in the future /bin/tar: ./sopwith.pub: implausibly old time stamp 0611-09-10 04:18:02 /bin/tar: ./sopwith.pub: time stamp 2006-10-20 11:01:02 is 44025486180 s in the future /bin/tar: ./shadow: implausibly old time stamp 0611-09-10 04:18:02 /bin/tar: ./shadow: time stamp 2006-10-20 11:01:03 is 44025486181 s in the future /bin/tar: ./rordway.pub: implausibly old time stamp 0611-09-10 04:18:02 /bin/tar: ./rordway.pub: time stamp 2006-10-20 11:01:03 is 44025486181 s in the future /bin/tar: ./spot.pub: implausibly old time stamp 0611-09-10 04:18:02 /bin/tar: ./spot.pub: time stamp 2006-10-20 11:01:03 is 44025486181 s in the future /bin/tar: ./skvidal.pub: implausibly old time stamp 0611-09-10 04:18:02 /bin/tar: ./skvidal.pub: time stamp 2006-10-20 11:01:02 is 44025486180 s in the future /bin/tar: ./group: implausibly old time stamp 0611-09-10 04:18:02 /bin/tar: ./group: time stamp 2006-10-20 11:01:03 is 44025486181 s in the future /bin/tar: ./berrange.pub: implausibly old time stamp 0611-09-10 04:18:02 /bin/tar: ./berrange.pub: time stamp 2006-10-20 11:01:03 is 44025486181 s in the future /bin/tar: .: implausibly old time stamp 0611-09-10 04:18:02 /bin/tar: .: time stamp 2006-10-20 11:01:03 is 44025486181 s in the future From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Fri Oct 20 17:41:27 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:41:27 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] fpserv time problem Message-ID: <1161366087.14633.56.camel@cutter> The clock on fpserv appears to have gone all to hell. I couldn't get it to report in the kernel correctly, only from glibc. Which suggested something deeper going on. I've been going through the logs but not found anything yet. I've rebooted the box in the immediate term to get the wiki and friends working again. -sv From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Oct 20 22:06:43 2006 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:06:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] a simple request (i hope) about f.r.c Message-ID: As much as I'd like to simply pull the plug on f.r.c completely, can we (at the very least, for now) simply but a redirect in place for the root of the site -- http://fedora.redhat.com -- that will just instantly send someone over to fedoraproject.org instead. We'll get a lot of traffic come Tuesday -- I'd like it all to land in the right place. Deeper links into f.r.c, I'm not too worried about. I'd like to fix the whole thing, but let's just take this first step for now. Complaints? Concerns? --Max -- Max Spevack + http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MaxSpevack + gpg key -- http://spevack.org/max.asc + fingerprint -- CD52 5E72 369B B00D 9E9A 773E 2FDB CB46 5A17 CF21 From mgalgoci at redhat.com Fri Oct 20 22:09:28 2006 From: mgalgoci at redhat.com (Matthew Galgoci) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:09:28 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] a simple request (i hope) about f.r.c In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:06:43 -0400 (EDT) > From: Max Spevack > To: fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] a simple request (i hope) about f.r.c > > As much as I'd like to simply pull the plug on f.r.c completely, can we (at > the very least, for now) simply but a redirect in place for the root of the > site -- http://fedora.redhat.com -- that will just instantly send someone over > to fedoraproject.org instead. > > We'll get a lot of traffic come Tuesday -- I'd like it all to land in the > right place. > > Deeper links into f.r.c, I'm not too worried about. I'd like to fix the whole > thing, but let's just take this first step for now. > > Complaints? Concerns? f.r.c is a vhost controlled by my group - just fyi. It's not controlled by the fedora folks. -- Matthew Galgoci GIS Production Operations Red Hat, Inc 919.754.3700 x44155 From lyz27 at yahoo.com Fri Oct 20 22:57:36 2006 From: lyz27 at yahoo.com (TomLy) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:57:36 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Account System 2 Update Message-ID: <1161385056.3019.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Thanks go out to Jeffery for setting up the Xen box for me and helping me with my ssh inadequacies. I've been able to translate the LDAP schema to FDS LDIF format and imported it into the FDS on test5.fedora.phx.redhat.com . I've attached a screenshot for your viewing pleasure (notice the sshkey and bugzillaemail attributes on the properties page) . I'm calling this stage almost done. I'm sure that there will be more tweaking of the schema later, but the base is set. The next step, as I see it, is to develop a ldif export from the current account system's database. I will start work on this today. This would be a good project for one of the new members to help out with. If you can help, send me an email. ~tom -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Account2FDS.png Type: image/png Size: 58361 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nman64 at n-man.com Fri Oct 20 23:05:18 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick W. Barnes) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:05:18 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] a simple request (i hope) about f.r.c In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200610201805.21290.nman64@n-man.com> On Friday 20 October 2006 17:09, Matthew Galgoci wrote: > f.r.c is a vhost controlled by my group - just fyi. It's not controlled by > the fedora folks. ...and it would be up to your group to set up an automatic redirect of the sort Max has in mind. I don't think such a redirect would be a good permanent solution, but it might be better than leaving things as they are and would put more pressure on us to get a permanent solution ready. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://n-man.com/ LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/nman64 Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Sat Oct 21 14:41:34 2006 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:41:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] a simple request (i hope) about f.r.c In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Matthew Galgoci wrote: > f.r.c is a vhost controlled by my group - just fyi. It's not controlled > by the fedora folks. Ok, well what do you think, Matt? I'd like to have people not hitting the top page of f.r.c when the place that they really should be if fp.o -- it's going to happen a lot come Tuesday, especially since google ranks f.r.c higher up. So how about a top-level redirect? --Max From jkeating at redhat.com Sat Oct 21 20:09:00 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:09:00 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] PPC builder outage? Message-ID: <200610211609.04604.jkeating@redhat.com> A couple of builds are stacking up on the ppc hosts, and not finishing. Is something going on with them? -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sbranden at redhat.com Sun Oct 22 22:08:21 2006 From: sbranden at redhat.com (Stacy J. Brandenburg) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:08:21 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] a simple request (i hope) about f.r.c In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <453BEBD5.6050604@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Do you want a redirect in Apache, or should we just swing the NS for fedora.redhat.com to the fedoraproject.org IP? Max Spevack wrote: > On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Matthew Galgoci wrote: > >> f.r.c is a vhost controlled by my group - just fyi. It's not >> controlled by the fedora folks. > > Ok, well what do you think, Matt? I'd like to have people not hitting > the top page of f.r.c when the place that they really should be if fp.o > -- it's going to happen a lot come Tuesday, especially since google > ranks f.r.c higher up. > > So how about a top-level redirect? > > --Max > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list - -- ======================================================== = Stacy J. Brandenburg Red Hat Inc. = = Manager, Network Operations sbranden at redhat.com = = 919-754-4313 http://www.redhat.com = ======================================================== Fingerprint 03F7 43BE 1150 CCFA F57B 54DD AEDB 1C27 1828 D94D -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFO+vUrtscJxgo2U0RAlpAAKCpQu0NBT3eKF4Vf7OxckSYDV1YhQCgwD14 9b061uOe/bf16WrZ/PzOn5c= =i+/p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From paulo.banon at googlemail.com Sun Oct 22 23:05:07 2006 From: paulo.banon at googlemail.com (Paulo Santos) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 00:05:07 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Self Introduction: Paulo Santos Message-ID: <7a41c4bc0610221605vf8a3eyb6614a7fc5e91955@mail.gmail.com> Hi everyone, I'm new to the list, so this is my introduction. * Name: Paulo Santos * Profession: System Engineer * Your goals in the Fedora Project: System admin, help whenever and where i can and learn. * Languages: Portuguese, English * What level and type of computer skills do you have? Using Red Hat since 96/97 (can't remember), professionally since 2001. I'm not a programmer but i can do some usefull stuff in SQL, PHP and Bash. I'm completly focused on sys admin. Worked for Vodafone UK in the Vodafone Live! portal, so i have a good knowledge of Apache, tomcat, etc. * What other skills do you have that might be applicable? I already worked with RHEL, and currently work in a unix systems integrator. Mainly Sun Sparc, so i have access to sparc platforms (nothing midrange or high-end though, those are for clients only) if needed. * What makes you an excellent match for the project? System administration, and a completly self learner person. Give me a challenge, and i'll (try to) give you results :) Many thanks Regards, PS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Sun Oct 22 23:33:12 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:33:12 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] homepage for admin.fedoraproject.org In-Reply-To: <7a41c4bc0610221629h4663ab63lf48feb5e042cd319@mail.gmail.com> References: <7a41c4bc0610221629h4663ab63lf48feb5e042cd319@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610221633r756ca409gc4acfd9b2cb6c5e7@mail.gmail.com> On 10/22/06, Paulo Santos wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to start doing this asap, so far i just added my name in the > scheadule. > > Can you guys give me an idea, of the actual goal to be accomplished with the > finished page?! > I know its to unify the look, and according to the current draft "The Fedora > Infrastructure Administration homepage provides lists for all the > infrastructure pieces and gives links to them". So where can i get this > information from? > i'm one of the new guys so i'm still trying to integrate and to have an idea > of all the different 'pieces' we have in Infrastructure. > > So any help with this information would be helpfull. > > Thanks, > Paulo Well, the admin.fp.o site has become sort of a portal to a great deal of our infrasturcture. But most of it is totally for the RH dev's. So various links to our sites, what they are, what we are, who to contact, when the ticketing system should be used, how to get there. Just an admin.fp.o welcome page really. -Mike From dennis at ausil.us Sun Oct 22 23:53:56 2006 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:53:56 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] homepage for admin.fedoraproject.org In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610221633r756ca409gc4acfd9b2cb6c5e7@mail.gmail.com> References: <7a41c4bc0610221629h4663ab63lf48feb5e042cd319@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610221633r756ca409gc4acfd9b2cb6c5e7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610221853.56648.dennis@ausil.us> On Sunday 22 October 2006 6:33 pm, Mike McGrath wrote: > On 10/22/06, Paulo Santos wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I would like to start doing this asap, so far i just added my name in the > > scheadule. > > > > Can you guys give me an idea, of the actual goal to be accomplished with > > the finished page?! > > I know its to unify the look, and according to the current draft "The > > Fedora Infrastructure Administration homepage provides lists for all the > > infrastructure pieces and gives links to them". So where can i get this > > information from? > > i'm one of the new guys so i'm still trying to integrate and to have an > > idea of all the different 'pieces' we have in Infrastructure. > > > > So any help with this information would be helpfull. > > > > Thanks, > > Paulo > > Well, the admin.fp.o site has become sort of a portal to a great deal > of our infrasturcture. But most of it is totally for the RH dev's. > So various links to our sites, what they are, what we are, who to > contact, when the ticketing system should be used, how to get there. > Just an admin.fp.o welcome page really. > > -Mike wasn't part of the unifying process also to create some way to deploy a css stylesheet on the different parts of our infrastructure. give it all a common fedora look and feel. nagios, ORTS, cacti, BackupPC as well as the common gateway and info. -- Dennis Gilmore, RHCE Proud Australian From jw at jhop.com Mon Oct 23 00:24:50 2006 From: jw at jhop.com (Jason Watson) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:24:50 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] a simple request (i hope) about f.r.c In-Reply-To: <453BEBD5.6050604@redhat.com> References: <453BEBD5.6050604@redhat.com> Message-ID: <453C0BD2.7020308@jhop.com> Stacy J. Brandenburg wrote: > Do you want a redirect in Apache, or should we just swing the NS for > fedora.redhat.com to the fedoraproject.org IP? > I would suggest changing the NS record, FWIW. -- Jason Watson From linux at elfshadow.net Mon Oct 23 04:21:17 2006 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 00:21:17 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] mirrors cgi and load In-Reply-To: <1161324140.10399.56.camel@cutter> References: <1161324140.10399.56.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <453C433D.7060309@elfshadow.net> seth vidal wrote: > What do y'all think about implementing something like that in the next > few days before FC6 final? > > It feels like it is just: > 1. dns entry addition > 2. vhost addition on one of the phx boxes > 3. an rsync+ssh key at the end of the checker cron job I think it's a good idea to have something like this put in place. I spent a little time tonight getting some of the initial framework put in place on the PHX servers. I have a directory setup on app1 for the mirrors area. The four proxy servers have been configured to pass the traffic back to app1 for requests coming to mirrors.fedoraproject.org (which I tested using 209.132.176.121 as the external IP). Right now I only have some test files in the directory for the intial setup. Just a heads up to keep someone from repeating any work in case they were going to set it up. Feel free to poke around at my setup. --Jeffrey From mel at laamail.com Mon Oct 23 05:10:52 2006 From: mel at laamail.com (Mel) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:10:52 +0800 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Introduction Message-ID: <453C4EDC.7050104@laamail.com> * Name: Mel Adams * Profession: 1) Retired 2) English Tutoring 3) Web Services * Your goals in the Fedora Project: Simply to contribute what I can and learn a little. * Languages: English * What level and type of computer skills do you have? I have done some programing but I do not consider myself a programmer. I do have system level analytical skills having been paid to do that as one of my old jobs. I can do the hardware bit OK though. * What other skills do you have that might be applicable? I can edit and proof read pretty well. * What makes you an excellent match for the project? Not sure. That is why I am here. To find out if there is a match. * GPG KEYID = D0B495D0 * fingerprint = 7846 DA74 A422 77C7 D32C 6079 D86C D1CF D0B4 95D0 From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Mon Oct 23 14:53:12 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:53:12 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: lockbox.fedora.phx.redhat.com system events: Mon Oct 23 04:03:29 2006 In-Reply-To: <200610231104.k9NB4G9c004132@lockbox.fedora.phx.redhat.com> References: <200610231104.k9NB4G9c004132@lockbox.fedora.phx.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1161615192.17840.20.camel@cutter> On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 04:04 -0700, root wrote: Questions below: > Oct 22 04:10:02 bastion sendmail: sendmail -HUP succeeded > Oct 22 04:10:02 bastion sendmail: sendmail -HUP succeeded > Oct 22 04:10:02 bastion sendmail: sm-client -HUP succeeded > Oct 22 04:10:02 bastion sendmail: sm-client -HUP succeeded > Oct 22 05:10:02 bastion sendmail: sendmail -HUP succeeded > Oct 22 05:10:02 bastion sendmail: sendmail -HUP succeeded > Oct 22 05:10:02 bastion sendmail: sm-client -HUP succeeded > Oct 22 05:10:02 bastion sendmail: sm-client -HUP succeeded Why is sendmail being restarted every hour on bastion? Better yet, why is it running sendmail? > Oct 22 05:11:49 cvs-int rhnsd[10625]: running program /usr/sbin/rhn_check > Oct 22 05:15:19 proxy4 rhnsd[1224]: running program /usr/sbin/rhn_check > Oct 22 05:17:16 proxy2 rhnsd[12819]: running program /usr/sbin/rhn_check > Oct 22 05:44:57 proxy1 rhnsd[1686]: running program /usr/sbin/rhn_check > Oct 22 05:45:19 proxy4 rhnsd[1227]: running program /usr/sbin/rhn_check > Oct 22 05:56:50 cvs-int rhnsd[11010]: running program /usr/sbin/rhn_check > Oct 22 06:00:18 db1 rhnsd[5452]: running program /usr/sbin/rhn_check > Oct 22 06:01:17 bastion rhnsd[11168]: running program /usr/sbin/rhn_check > Oct 22 06:02:14 proxy3 rhnsd[27507]: running program /usr/sbin/rhn_check > Oct 22 06:05:38 app2 rhnsd[4430]: running program /usr/sbin/rhn_check I can think of something to add to the epylog weed list, can you? :) -sv From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Mon Oct 23 14:58:23 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:58:23 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: lockbox.fedora.phx.redhat.com system events: Mon Oct 23 04:03:29 2006 In-Reply-To: <1161615192.17840.20.camel@cutter> References: <200610231104.k9NB4G9c004132@lockbox.fedora.phx.redhat.com> <1161615192.17840.20.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <3237e4410610230758j968c035v58ff0f7a8c40c330@mail.gmail.com> On 10/23/06, seth vidal wrote: > On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 04:04 -0700, root wrote: > > Questions below: > > > > Oct 22 04:10:02 bastion sendmail: sendmail -HUP succeeded > > Oct 22 04:10:02 bastion sendmail: sendmail -HUP succeeded > > Oct 22 04:10:02 bastion sendmail: sm-client -HUP succeeded > > Oct 22 04:10:02 bastion sendmail: sm-client -HUP succeeded > > Oct 22 05:10:02 bastion sendmail: sendmail -HUP succeeded > > Oct 22 05:10:02 bastion sendmail: sendmail -HUP succeeded > > Oct 22 05:10:02 bastion sendmail: sm-client -HUP succeeded > > Oct 22 05:10:02 bastion sendmail: sm-client -HUP succeeded > > Why is sendmail being restarted every hour on bastion? > Better yet, why is it running sendmail? > Bastion is our current SMTP server (until smtp.fp.o) gets finished. I believe that we send a HUP to it after rebuilding the alises. -Mike From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Mon Oct 23 15:11:24 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:11:24 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] mod_python on fpserv Message-ID: <3237e4410610230811r1585f2d2j62083a055845a9db@mail.gmail.com> I've switched from using cgi to mod_python on the wiki. Sometimes I've noticed high load on the box and general sluggishness on the wiki. Hopefully this will fix that. As always keep an eye out for anything that might be broken. -Mike From jonathansteffan at gmail.com Mon Oct 23 15:28:32 2006 From: jonathansteffan at gmail.com (Jonathan Steffan) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:28:32 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Setting Up Plone 2.5 In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610230811r1585f2d2j62083a055845a9db@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610230811r1585f2d2j62083a055845a9db@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <453CDFA0.80605@gmail.com> Team, I'd like to get setup with Plone 2.5. Things I need: * Data.fs from old 2.1 instance (I have access to the ZMI; not the box) * Access to server with the correct version of python * sudo/root access to be able to use yum and setup Apache The plan is to just get a 2.5 install done, setup cachefu, tune what needs to be setup and then move the Data.fs over and be done with it. I will also setup Plone PAS ldap support that will be able to tie into the new accounts system. Also, I need info on how much RAM to give apache to cache. In addtion to that, if there are any squid gurus on the team, we should look into setting up squid if we expect plone to be hit very hard. Otherwise, apache mem caching and cachefu does a pretty good job. Any questions, let me know. Jonathan daMaestro -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 251 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Mon Oct 23 15:30:39 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:30:39 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Setting Up Plone 2.5 In-Reply-To: <453CDFA0.80605@gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610230811r1585f2d2j62083a055845a9db@mail.gmail.com> <453CDFA0.80605@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610230830x55a13f6bj38d92eafa3a40cb7@mail.gmail.com> On 10/23/06, Jonathan Steffan wrote: > Team, > > I'd like to get setup with Plone 2.5. Things I need: > > * Data.fs from old 2.1 instance (I have access to the ZMI; not the box) > * Access to server with the correct version of python > * sudo/root access to be able to use yum and setup Apache > > The plan is to just get a 2.5 install done, setup cachefu, tune what > needs to be setup and then move the Data.fs over and be done with it. I > will also setup Plone PAS ldap support that will be able to tie into the > new accounts system. Also, I need info on how much RAM to give apache to > cache. In addtion to that, if there are any squid gurus on the team, we > should look into setting up squid if we expect plone to be hit very > hard. Otherwise, apache mem caching and cachefu does a pretty good job. > Any questions, let me know. > > Jonathan > daMaestro > I'm fine with this, though I should point out that we don't even have LDAP up and running in our infrastructure yet. What exactly do you plan to accomplish? -Mike From jonathansteffan at gmail.com Mon Oct 23 15:54:51 2006 From: jonathansteffan at gmail.com (Jonathan Steffan) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:54:51 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Setting Up Plone 2.5 In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610230830x55a13f6bj38d92eafa3a40cb7@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610230811r1585f2d2j62083a055845a9db@mail.gmail.com> <453CDFA0.80605@gmail.com> <3237e4410610230830x55a13f6bj38d92eafa3a40cb7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <453CE5CB.5050409@gmail.com> Mike McGrath wrote: > On 10/23/06, Jonathan Steffan wrote: >> Team, >> >> I'd like to get setup with Plone 2.5. Things I need: >> >> * Data.fs from old 2.1 instance (I have access to the ZMI; not >> the box) >> * Access to server with the correct version of python >> * sudo/root access to be able to use yum and setup Apache >> >> The plan is to just get a 2.5 install done, setup cachefu, tune what >> needs to be setup and then move the Data.fs over and be done with it. I >> will also setup Plone PAS ldap support that will be able to tie into the >> new accounts system. Also, I need info on how much RAM to give apache to >> cache. In addtion to that, if there are any squid gurus on the team, we >> should look into setting up squid if we expect plone to be hit very >> hard. Otherwise, apache mem caching and cachefu does a pretty good job. >> Any questions, let me know. >> >> Jonathan >> daMaestro >> > > I'm fine with this, though I should point out that we don't even have > LDAP up and running in our infrastructure yet. What exactly do you > plan to accomplish? > > -Mike > I'm just looking to get what we have already setup on Plone 2.5 with CacheFu. Also, to setup all the plone 'products' that are needed to attach the plone site to the LDAP server that is being setup. It will just be getting us ready to attach the plone instance to the account system. If someone wants to do some of the work for me (that would rock,) get apache setup the same way it is on fpserv (including the ssl stuff and rewrites, etc) and then I will do updates to the config for mod_mem_cache. If I shouldn't have access, I can try to step someone with access through the process. Jonathan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 251 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From Matt_Domsch at dell.com Mon Oct 23 15:58:49 2006 From: Matt_Domsch at dell.com (Matt Domsch) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:58:49 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] 2 new Dell servers for PHX colo Message-ID: <20061023155848.GA27563@lists.us.dell.com> Two new Dell PowerEdge 2950 servers have shipped to the PHX colo as a donation to the infrastructure needs of the Fedora Project. They should arrive shortly. #1: 2x2.33GHz Intel Xeon 5140 (Woodcrest 4MB) CPUs, dual core + HT 8GB 4x146GB 10Krpm SAS disks #2: 2x2.33GHz Intel Xeon 5140 (Woodcrest 4MB) CPUs, dual core + HT 4GB 5x73GB 15Krpm SAS disks Use them well! Thanks, Matt -- Matt Domsch Software Architect Dell Linux Solutions linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux Linux on Dell mailing lists @ http://lists.us.dell.com From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Mon Oct 23 16:00:44 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:00:44 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] 2 new Dell servers for PHX colo In-Reply-To: <20061023155848.GA27563@lists.us.dell.com> References: <20061023155848.GA27563@lists.us.dell.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610230900t5b26d74ew70f665095132e849@mail.gmail.com> On 10/23/06, Matt Domsch wrote: > Two new Dell PowerEdge 2950 servers have shipped to the PHX colo as a > donation to the infrastructure needs of the Fedora Project. They > should arrive shortly. > > #1: 2x2.33GHz Intel Xeon 5140 (Woodcrest 4MB) CPUs, dual core + HT > 8GB > 4x146GB 10Krpm SAS disks > > #2: 2x2.33GHz Intel Xeon 5140 (Woodcrest 4MB) CPUs, dual core + HT > 4GB > 5x73GB 15Krpm SAS disks > > Use them well! > > Thanks, > Matt > > -- Rock. These will be our dedicated backup and database servers. Thanks as always Matt. -Mike From sbranden at redhat.com Mon Oct 23 16:01:10 2006 From: sbranden at redhat.com (Stacy J. Brandenburg) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:01:10 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] 2 new Dell servers for PHX colo In-Reply-To: <20061023155848.GA27563@lists.us.dell.com> References: <20061023155848.GA27563@lists.us.dell.com> Message-ID: <453CE746.8080408@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I will install them ASAP. thanks Matt Matt Domsch wrote: > Two new Dell PowerEdge 2950 servers have shipped to the PHX colo as a > donation to the infrastructure needs of the Fedora Project. They > should arrive shortly. > > #1: 2x2.33GHz Intel Xeon 5140 (Woodcrest 4MB) CPUs, dual core + HT > 8GB > 4x146GB 10Krpm SAS disks > > #2: 2x2.33GHz Intel Xeon 5140 (Woodcrest 4MB) CPUs, dual core + HT > 4GB > 5x73GB 15Krpm SAS disks > > Use them well! > > Thanks, > Matt > - -- ======================================================== = Stacy J. Brandenburg Red Hat Inc. = = Manager, Network Operations sbranden at redhat.com = = 919-754-4313 http://www.redhat.com = ======================================================== Fingerprint 03F7 43BE 1150 CCFA F57B 54DD AEDB 1C27 1828 D94D -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFPOdGrtscJxgo2U0RAg9gAJ44GWhJLdy9CpAaIlaWKBGJhPIByQCdFKKg Jp4iebOZ2kjtr6tndTQzgBQ= =zfeF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From linux at elfshadow.net Mon Oct 23 16:31:10 2006 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:31:10 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: lockbox.fedora.phx.redhat.com system events: Mon Oct 23 04:03:29 2006 In-Reply-To: <1161615192.17840.20.camel@cutter> References: <200610231104.k9NB4G9c004132@lockbox.fedora.phx.redhat.com> <1161615192.17840.20.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <453CEE4E.4070202@elfshadow.net> seth vidal wrote: >> Oct 22 05:56:50 cvs-int rhnsd[11010]: running program /usr/sbin/rhn_check >> Oct 22 06:00:18 db1 rhnsd[5452]: running program /usr/sbin/rhn_check >> Oct 22 06:01:17 bastion rhnsd[11168]: running program /usr/sbin/rhn_check >> Oct 22 06:02:14 proxy3 rhnsd[27507]: running program /usr/sbin/rhn_check >> Oct 22 06:05:38 app2 rhnsd[4430]: running program /usr/sbin/rhn_check > > I can think of something to add to the epylog weed list, can you? :) Added to the weed list. --Jeffrey From wtogami at redhat.com Mon Oct 23 16:33:45 2006 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:33:45 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] 2 new Dell servers for PHX colo In-Reply-To: <20061023155848.GA27563@lists.us.dell.com> References: <20061023155848.GA27563@lists.us.dell.com> Message-ID: <453CEEE9.40709@redhat.com> Matt Domsch wrote: > Two new Dell PowerEdge 2950 servers have shipped to the PHX colo as a > donation to the infrastructure needs of the Fedora Project. They > should arrive shortly. > > #1: 2x2.33GHz Intel Xeon 5140 (Woodcrest 4MB) CPUs, dual core + HT > 8GB > 4x146GB 10Krpm SAS disks > > #2: 2x2.33GHz Intel Xeon 5140 (Woodcrest 4MB) CPUs, dual core + HT > 4GB > 5x73GB 15Krpm SAS disks > > Use them well! > > Thanks, > Matt > Awesome news! Thanks Matt and Dell. Hey folks, do you know how many servers have been donated to the Fedora Project by Dell? I vaguely recall that some servers went to Duke, and others are in PHX. It would be good to post a small note of appreciation to Dell in a Fedora newsletter somewhere. Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From sbranden at redhat.com Mon Oct 23 16:41:35 2006 From: sbranden at redhat.com (Stacy J. Brandenburg) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:41:35 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] 2 new Dell servers for PHX colo In-Reply-To: <453CEEE9.40709@redhat.com> References: <20061023155848.GA27563@lists.us.dell.com> <453CEEE9.40709@redhat.com> Message-ID: <453CF0BF.1030504@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 We have 14 Dell, 3 IBM, and 3 Penguin boxes in the DC (that includes the 2 on the way) for fedoraproject.org. FYI - we need a rack :) The rack fedora is in, will be 100% utilized as of this shipment. Warren Togami wrote: > Matt Domsch wrote: >> Two new Dell PowerEdge 2950 servers have shipped to the PHX colo as a >> donation to the infrastructure needs of the Fedora Project. They >> should arrive shortly. >> >> #1: 2x2.33GHz Intel Xeon 5140 (Woodcrest 4MB) CPUs, dual core + HT >> 8GB >> 4x146GB 10Krpm SAS disks >> >> #2: 2x2.33GHz Intel Xeon 5140 (Woodcrest 4MB) CPUs, dual core + HT >> 4GB >> 5x73GB 15Krpm SAS disks >> >> Use them well! >> >> Thanks, >> Matt >> > > Awesome news! Thanks Matt and Dell. > > Hey folks, do you know how many servers have been donated to the Fedora > Project by Dell? I vaguely recall that some servers went to Duke, and > others are in PHX. > > It would be good to post a small note of appreciation to Dell in a > Fedora newsletter somewhere. > > Warren Togami > wtogami at redhat.com > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list - -- ======================================================== = Stacy J. Brandenburg Red Hat Inc. = = Manager, Network Operations sbranden at redhat.com = = 919-754-4313 http://www.redhat.com = ======================================================== Fingerprint 03F7 43BE 1150 CCFA F57B 54DD AEDB 1C27 1828 D94D -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFPPC/rtscJxgo2U0RArlOAKCUt0OLHs71bUKoLn0XlVbPdDvuYQCfRgWM bzoYREWdTnNRiTzRjt/JPN0= =b0J8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Mon Oct 23 16:45:23 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:45:23 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] 2 new Dell servers for PHX colo In-Reply-To: <453CF0BF.1030504@redhat.com> References: <20061023155848.GA27563@lists.us.dell.com> <453CEEE9.40709@redhat.com> <453CF0BF.1030504@redhat.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610230945n77220eccy997b4b05606d8255@mail.gmail.com> On 10/23/06, Stacy J. Brandenburg wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > We have 14 Dell, 3 IBM, and 3 Penguin boxes in the DC (that includes the > 2 on the way) for fedoraproject.org. > > FYI - we need a rack :) The rack fedora is in, will be 100% utilized as > of this shipment. > > HAH! Wow, That came quicker then I thought. How many U do we have and how many U are the boxes we have in there? (Like the Penguin boxes?) -Mike From linux at elfshadow.net Mon Oct 23 16:47:03 2006 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:47:03 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] 2 new Dell servers for PHX colo In-Reply-To: <453CEEE9.40709@redhat.com> References: <20061023155848.GA27563@lists.us.dell.com> <453CEEE9.40709@redhat.com> Message-ID: <453CF207.1070003@elfshadow.net> Warren Togami wrote: > Matt Domsch wrote: >> Two new Dell PowerEdge 2950 servers have shipped to the PHX colo as a >> donation to the infrastructure needs of the Fedora Project. They >> should arrive shortly. >> >> Use them well! > > Awesome news! Thanks Matt and Dell. That is good news. Thanks to Matt and Dell for these and the other boxes they have provided us. > It would be good to post a small note of appreciation to Dell in a > Fedora newsletter somewhere. I think this is a good idea as well. --Jeffrey From sbranden at redhat.com Mon Oct 23 17:20:10 2006 From: sbranden at redhat.com (Stacy J. Brandenburg) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:20:10 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] 2 new Dell servers for PHX colo In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610230945n77220eccy997b4b05606d8255@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061023155848.GA27563@lists.us.dell.com> <453CEEE9.40709@redhat.com> <453CF0BF.1030504@redhat.com> <3237e4410610230945n77220eccy997b4b05606d8255@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <453CF9CA.2050900@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 42 U Dell Rack (newer style) U Description 1/5 Reserved for floor access and wiring 6 Shelf 7 Penguin Hammer1 8 Penguin Hammer2 9 Penguin Hammer3 10 Shelf 11/12 IBM PPC3 13/14 IBM PPC2 15/16 IBM PPC1 17/18 New Dell on the way 19/20 Dell 2650 Lockbox 21/22 New Dell on the way 23 Keyboard tray 24/25 Dell 2850 CVS 26/27 Dell 2650 DB 28 Dell 1750 App 2 29 Dell 1750 App 1 30 Dell 1750 Proxy 4 31 Dell 1750 Proxy 3 32 Dell 1750 Proxy 2 33 Dell 1750 Proxy 1 34 Dell 1750 Bastion 35/36 Dell 2950 ??? 37 Dell 1950 ??? 38 Blank 39 Switch 40 Blank 41 Cyclades 42 Blank - -- ======================================================== = Stacy J. Brandenburg Red Hat Inc. = = Manager, Network Operations sbranden at redhat.com = = 919-754-4313 http://www.redhat.com = ======================================================== Fingerprint 03F7 43BE 1150 CCFA F57B 54DD AEDB 1C27 1828 D94D -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFPPnKrtscJxgo2U0RArBvAKCeVbpEfA6o5fvzhvBRGBW6eU1NKwCeM5WG 1bGCzB7obiVefrggmJGaHpg= =UIQQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From Matt_Domsch at dell.com Mon Oct 23 17:27:37 2006 From: Matt_Domsch at dell.com (Matt Domsch) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:27:37 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] 2 new Dell servers for PHX colo In-Reply-To: <453CEEE9.40709@redhat.com> References: <20061023155848.GA27563@lists.us.dell.com> <453CEEE9.40709@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20061023172737.GA27963@lists.us.dell.com> On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 12:33:45PM -0400, Warren Togami wrote: > Matt Domsch wrote: > >Two new Dell PowerEdge 2950 servers have shipped to the PHX colo as a > >donation to the infrastructure needs of the Fedora Project. They > >should arrive shortly. > > > >#1: 2x2.33GHz Intel Xeon 5140 (Woodcrest 4MB) CPUs, dual core + HT > > 8GB > > 4x146GB 10Krpm SAS disks > > > >#2: 2x2.33GHz Intel Xeon 5140 (Woodcrest 4MB) CPUs, dual core + HT > > 4GB > > 5x73GB 15Krpm SAS disks > > > >Use them well! > > > >Thanks, > >Matt > > > > Awesome news! Thanks Matt and Dell. > > Hey folks, do you know how many servers have been donated to the Fedora > Project by Dell? I vaguely recall that some servers went to Duke, and > others are in PHX. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Donations lists the donations. > It would be good to post a small note of appreciation to Dell in a > Fedora newsletter somewhere. That'd be great! Thanks! -- Matt Domsch Software Architect Dell Linux Solutions linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux Linux on Dell mailing lists @ http://lists.us.dell.com From Matt_Domsch at dell.com Mon Oct 23 17:30:09 2006 From: Matt_Domsch at dell.com (Matt Domsch) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:30:09 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] 2 new Dell servers for PHX colo In-Reply-To: <453CF9CA.2050900@redhat.com> References: <20061023155848.GA27563@lists.us.dell.com> <453CEEE9.40709@redhat.com> <453CF0BF.1030504@redhat.com> <3237e4410610230945n77220eccy997b4b05606d8255@mail.gmail.com> <453CF9CA.2050900@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20061023173009.GB27963@lists.us.dell.com> On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 01:20:10PM -0400, Stacy J. Brandenburg wrote: > 35/36 Dell 2950 ??? That's the one Max purchased a couple months ago. > 37 Dell 1950 ??? This is the donated box with Xen guests. -- Matt Domsch Software Architect Dell Linux Solutions linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux Linux on Dell mailing lists @ http://lists.us.dell.com From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Mon Oct 23 17:56:24 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:56:24 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: lockbox.fedora.phx.redhat.com system events: Mon Oct 23 04:03:29 2006 In-Reply-To: <453CEE4E.4070202@elfshadow.net> References: <200610231104.k9NB4G9c004132@lockbox.fedora.phx.redhat.com> <1161615192.17840.20.camel@cutter> <453CEE4E.4070202@elfshadow.net> Message-ID: <1161626184.17840.37.camel@cutter> On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 12:31 -0400, Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: > seth vidal wrote: > >> Oct 22 05:56:50 cvs-int rhnsd[11010]: running program /usr/sbin/rhn_check > >> Oct 22 06:00:18 db1 rhnsd[5452]: running program /usr/sbin/rhn_check > >> Oct 22 06:01:17 bastion rhnsd[11168]: running program /usr/sbin/rhn_check > >> Oct 22 06:02:14 proxy3 rhnsd[27507]: running program /usr/sbin/rhn_check > >> Oct 22 06:05:38 app2 rhnsd[4430]: running program /usr/sbin/rhn_check > > > > I can think of something to add to the epylog weed list, can you? :) > > Added to the weed list. > > --Jeffrey > thank you. -sv From jw at jhop.com Mon Oct 23 18:31:25 2006 From: jw at jhop.com (Jason Watson) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:31:25 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] 2 new Dell servers for PHX colo In-Reply-To: <453CF9CA.2050900@redhat.com> References: <20061023155848.GA27563@lists.us.dell.com> <453CEEE9.40709@redhat.com> <453CF0BF.1030504@redhat.com> <3237e4410610230945n77220eccy997b4b05606d8255@mail.gmail.com> <453CF9CA.2050900@redhat.com> Message-ID: <453D0A7D.9040806@jhop.com> > 41 Cyclades FYI, I have experience with Cyclades console servers, if that ever comes up. I currently manage 4 of them in various remote DC's. -- Jason Watson From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Mon Oct 23 19:00:15 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:00:15 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] 2 new Dell servers for PHX colo In-Reply-To: <453D0A7D.9040806@jhop.com> References: <20061023155848.GA27563@lists.us.dell.com> <453CEEE9.40709@redhat.com> <453CF0BF.1030504@redhat.com> <3237e4410610230945n77220eccy997b4b05606d8255@mail.gmail.com> <453CF9CA.2050900@redhat.com> <453D0A7D.9040806@jhop.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610231200k714b7ee1udb31f7cd85c59b3d@mail.gmail.com> On 10/23/06, Jason Watson wrote: > > 41 Cyclades > > FYI, I have experience with Cyclades console servers, if that ever comes > up. I currently manage 4 of them in various remote DC's. > > -- > Jason Watson Thats good to know, I've found cyclades have a lot of personality from one box to another :) -Mike From sbranden at redhat.com Mon Oct 23 19:05:07 2006 From: sbranden at redhat.com (Stacy J. Brandenburg) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:05:07 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] 2 new Dell servers for PHX colo In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610231200k714b7ee1udb31f7cd85c59b3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061023155848.GA27563@lists.us.dell.com> <453CEEE9.40709@redhat.com> <453CF0BF.1030504@redhat.com> <3237e4410610230945n77220eccy997b4b05606d8255@mail.gmail.com> <453CF9CA.2050900@redhat.com> <453D0A7D.9040806@jhop.com> <3237e4410610231200k714b7ee1udb31f7cd85c59b3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <453D1263.90108@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 *LAUGH* for sure... Mike McGrath wrote: > On 10/23/06, Jason Watson wrote: >> > 41 Cyclades >> >> FYI, I have experience with Cyclades console servers, if that ever comes >> up. I currently manage 4 of them in various remote DC's. >> >> -- >> Jason Watson > > Thats good to know, I've found cyclades have a lot of personality from > one box to another :) > > -Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list - -- ======================================================== = Stacy J. Brandenburg Red Hat Inc. = = Manager, Network Operations sbranden at redhat.com = = 919-754-4313 http://www.redhat.com = ======================================================== Fingerprint 03F7 43BE 1150 CCFA F57B 54DD AEDB 1C27 1828 D94D -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFPRJjrtscJxgo2U0RAshXAJ9A9guvztDMLt2HQ8j4+BkNd7NonwCgrLt1 sw5sEilMSmINRNyc9Q3Bre4= =RzI8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Mon Oct 23 19:12:19 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:12:19 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] homepage for admin.fedoraproject.org In-Reply-To: <200610221853.56648.dennis@ausil.us> References: <7a41c4bc0610221629h4663ab63lf48feb5e042cd319@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610221633r756ca409gc4acfd9b2cb6c5e7@mail.gmail.com> <200610221853.56648.dennis@ausil.us> Message-ID: <3237e4410610231212l3968f56ciffdaab8bdfd1609f@mail.gmail.com> On 10/22/06, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > On Sunday 22 October 2006 6:33 pm, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On 10/22/06, Paulo Santos wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I would like to start doing this asap, so far i just added my name in the > > > scheadule. > > > > > > Can you guys give me an idea, of the actual goal to be accomplished with > > > the finished page?! > > > I know its to unify the look, and according to the current draft "The > > > Fedora Infrastructure Administration homepage provides lists for all the > > > infrastructure pieces and gives links to them". So where can i get this > > > information from? > > > i'm one of the new guys so i'm still trying to integrate and to have an > > > idea of all the different 'pieces' we have in Infrastructure. > > > > > > So any help with this information would be helpfull. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Paulo > > > > Well, the admin.fp.o site has become sort of a portal to a great deal > > of our infrasturcture. But most of it is totally for the RH dev's. > > So various links to our sites, what they are, what we are, who to > > contact, when the ticketing system should be used, how to get there. > > Just an admin.fp.o welcome page really. > > > > -Mike > wasn't part of the unifying process also to create some way to deploy a css > stylesheet on the different parts of our infrastructure. give it all a > common fedora look and feel. nagios, ORTS, cacti, BackupPC as well as the > common gateway and info. > I forgot all about the style sheet. Paulo, how much work do you think it will be to create a css for our infrastructure based off the wiki css? -Mike From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Oct 23 20:16:42 2006 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] a simple request (i hope) about f.r.c In-Reply-To: <453C0BD2.7020308@jhop.com> References: <453BEBD5.6050604@redhat.com> <453C0BD2.7020308@jhop.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 22 Oct 2006, Jason Watson wrote: > Stacy J. Brandenburg wrote: >> Do you want a redirect in Apache, or should we just swing the NS for >> fedora.redhat.com to the fedoraproject.org IP? >> > > I would suggest changing the NS record, FWIW. Whatever you think is best, Stacy. I'd just like the f.r.c folks to bounce over to fedoraproject.org unless they are deep-linking in to f.r.c Sorry for the delay -- took me a while to get to this section of my email in all the pre-fc6 hubbub. --Max -- Max Spevack + http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MaxSpevack + gpg key -- http://spevack.org/max.asc + fingerprint -- CD52 5E72 369B B00D 9E9A 773E 2FDB CB46 5A17 CF21 From sbranden at redhat.com Mon Oct 23 20:25:14 2006 From: sbranden at redhat.com (Stacy J. Brandenburg) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:25:14 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] a simple request (i hope) about f.r.c In-Reply-To: References: <453BEBD5.6050604@redhat.com> <453C0BD2.7020308@jhop.com> Message-ID: <453D252A.7030709@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 If there are deep links, things may break. I am going to swing NS in a few minutes to Address: 152.3.220.166 If anyone notices a problem - please page me at sbranden-page at redhat.com or catch me on IRC. I will jump on freenode as well to watch for problems... Max Spevack wrote: > On Sun, 22 Oct 2006, Jason Watson wrote: > >> Stacy J. Brandenburg wrote: >>> Do you want a redirect in Apache, or should we just swing the NS for >>> fedora.redhat.com to the fedoraproject.org IP? >>> >> >> I would suggest changing the NS record, FWIW. > > Whatever you think is best, Stacy. I'd just like the f.r.c folks to > bounce over to fedoraproject.org unless they are deep-linking in to f.r.c > > Sorry for the delay -- took me a while to get to this section of my > email in all the pre-fc6 hubbub. > > --Max > - -- ======================================================== = Stacy J. Brandenburg Red Hat Inc. = = Manager, Network Operations sbranden at redhat.com = = 919-754-4313 http://www.redhat.com = ======================================================== Fingerprint 03F7 43BE 1150 CCFA F57B 54DD AEDB 1C27 1828 D94D -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFPSUqrtscJxgo2U0RAuCZAJ9JkD0su5oYZzg+GjQD8XB3lR9RqgCg0YZg 3F0/C9YABNH0zGnCpRLPtcE= =JD1S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sct at redhat.com Mon Oct 23 20:37:45 2006 From: sct at redhat.com (Stephen C. Tweedie) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:37:45 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] A couple of nasty breakages on fedora.redhat.com Message-ID: <1161635865.12586.13.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Hi, Many URLs on fedora.redhat.com are currently broken. Worse, they are coming up as redirections to a CentOS http config. First, http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors/fedora-extras-i386 is failing: Not Found The requested URL /download/mirrors/fedora-extras-i386 was not found on this server. Apache/2.0.52 (CentOS) Server at fedora.redhat.com Port 80 and as this is the official mirrors list in the FC-5 fedora-release yum.repos.d, this breaks all FC-5 yum updates for anybody with -extras enabled. And http://www.fedora.redhat.com/ is returning something similar: Index of / Icon Name Last modified Size Description ________________________________________________________________ Apache/2.0.52 (CentOS) Server at www.fedora.redhat.com Port 80 --Stephen From lyz27 at yahoo.com Mon Oct 23 22:31:57 2006 From: lyz27 at yahoo.com (TomLy) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:31:57 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Setting Up Plone 2.5 In-Reply-To: <453CE5CB.5050409@gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610230811r1585f2d2j62083a055845a9db@mail.gmail.com> <453CDFA0.80605@gmail.com> <3237e4410610230830x55a13f6bj38d92eafa3a40cb7@mail.gmail.com> <453CE5CB.5050409@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1161642717.2833.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> > I'm just looking to get what we have already setup on Plone 2.5 with > CacheFu. Also, to setup all the plone 'products' that are needed to > attach the plone site to the LDAP server that is being setup. It will > just be getting us ready to attach the plone instance to the account > system. If someone wants to do some of the work for me (that would > rock,) get apache setup the same way it is on fpserv (including the ssl > stuff and rewrites, etc) and then I will do updates to the config for > mod_mem_cache. If I shouldn't have access, I can try to step someone > with access through the process. > > Jonathan I hate to backtrack, but what are we running on Plone? This may be a good candidate for a test of the new account system once we get the user info migrated over. ~tom From jonathansteffan at gmail.com Mon Oct 23 22:51:20 2006 From: jonathansteffan at gmail.com (Jonathan Steffan) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:51:20 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Setting Up Plone 2.5 In-Reply-To: <1161642717.2833.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <3237e4410610230811r1585f2d2j62083a055845a9db@mail.gmail.com> <453CDFA0.80605@gmail.com> <3237e4410610230830x55a13f6bj38d92eafa3a40cb7@mail.gmail.com> <453CE5CB.5050409@gmail.com> <1161642717.2833.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <453D4768.6000904@gmail.com> TomLy wrote: >> I'm just looking to get what we have already setup on Plone 2.5 with >> CacheFu. Also, to setup all the plone 'products' that are needed to >> attach the plone site to the LDAP server that is being setup. It will >> just be getting us ready to attach the plone instance to the account >> system. If someone wants to do some of the work for me (that would >> rock,) get apache setup the same way it is on fpserv (including the ssl >> stuff and rewrites, etc) and then I will do updates to the config for >> mod_mem_cache. If I shouldn't have access, I can try to step someone >> with access through the process. >> >> Jonathan >> > > I hate to backtrack, but what are we running on Plone? This may be a > good candidate for a test of the new account system once we get the user > info migrated over. > > ~tom > > Yes. This will be great for the new accounts system. http://fpserv.fedoraproject.org/ It was my understanding that fedora.redhat.com would be directed towards the plone site and the fedoraproject.org frontpage would be directed at the plone site and then the rest would be the moinmoin wiki. We (Fedora Unity) are already using plone 2.5 with Fedora Directory Server. It works well. I also expect that moinmoin could be tied in with FDS easily. Jonathan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 251 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Mon Oct 23 22:51:48 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:51:48 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Setting Up Plone 2.5 In-Reply-To: <1161642717.2833.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <3237e4410610230811r1585f2d2j62083a055845a9db@mail.gmail.com> <453CDFA0.80605@gmail.com> <3237e4410610230830x55a13f6bj38d92eafa3a40cb7@mail.gmail.com> <453CE5CB.5050409@gmail.com> <1161642717.2833.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <3237e4410610231551q4e530983jf86d9f7fe17e6f49@mail.gmail.com> On 10/23/06, TomLy wrote: > > > I'm just looking to get what we have already setup on Plone 2.5 with > > CacheFu. Also, to setup all the plone 'products' that are needed to > > attach the plone site to the LDAP server that is being setup. It will > > just be getting us ready to attach the plone instance to the account > > system. If someone wants to do some of the work for me (that would > > rock,) get apache setup the same way it is on fpserv (including the ssl > > stuff and rewrites, etc) and then I will do updates to the config for > > mod_mem_cache. If I shouldn't have access, I can try to step someone > > with access through the process. > > > > Jonathan > > I hate to backtrack, but what are we running on Plone? This may be a > good candidate for a test of the new account system once we get the user > info migrated over. > > ~tom > Thats really my hesitation about this particular project, we don't use plone in production anywhere and we don't use LDAP in production anywhere. Its quite possible we never will with either if we choose a different route with the accounts system. What do the others think? -Mike From paulo.banon at googlemail.com Mon Oct 23 22:29:17 2006 From: paulo.banon at googlemail.com (Paulo Santos) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:29:17 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] homepage for admin.fedoraproject.org In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610231212l3968f56ciffdaab8bdfd1609f@mail.gmail.com> References: <7a41c4bc0610221629h4663ab63lf48feb5e042cd319@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610221633r756ca409gc4acfd9b2cb6c5e7@mail.gmail.com> <200610221853.56648.dennis@ausil.us> <3237e4410610231212l3968f56ciffdaab8bdfd1609f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7a41c4bc0610231529p2988aaco9d4dd69a51ae47d6@mail.gmail.com> no idea, but shouldn't be that hard to create a simple CSS. I've already created several for previous websites i made. Usually depends on the amount of 'style' you want to add. Btw i already started working on the draft, so any comments would be apreciated. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IndexAdmin Mike: sorry about the double message, but i just replied to you and not the list... Paulo On 10/23/06, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On 10/22/06, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > On Sunday 22 October 2006 6:33 pm, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > On 10/22/06, Paulo Santos wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I would like to start doing this asap, so far i just added my name > in the > > > > scheadule. > > > > > > > > Can you guys give me an idea, of the actual goal to be accomplished > with > > > > the finished page?! > > > > I know its to unify the look, and according to the current draft > "The > > > > Fedora Infrastructure Administration homepage provides lists for all > the > > > > infrastructure pieces and gives links to them". So where can i get > this > > > > information from? > > > > i'm one of the new guys so i'm still trying to integrate and to have > an > > > > idea of all the different 'pieces' we have in Infrastructure. > > > > > > > > So any help with this information would be helpfull. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Paulo > > > > > > Well, the admin.fp.o site has become sort of a portal to a great deal > > > of our infrasturcture. But most of it is totally for the RH dev's. > > > So various links to our sites, what they are, what we are, who to > > > contact, when the ticketing system should be used, how to get there. > > > Just an admin.fp.o welcome page really. > > > > > > -Mike > > wasn't part of the unifying process also to create some way to deploy a > css > > stylesheet on the different parts of our infrastructure. give it all a > > common fedora look and feel. nagios, ORTS, cacti, BackupPC as well as > the > > common gateway and info. > > > > I forgot all about the style sheet. Paulo, how much work do you think > it will be to create a css for our infrastructure based off the wiki > css? > > -Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nayfield at redhat.com Mon Oct 23 20:35:04 2006 From: nayfield at redhat.com (Rod Nayfield) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:35:04 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] fyi www.fedora.redhat.com goes to an empty web server RUNNING CENTOS Message-ID: <453D2778.2030300@redhat.com> www.fedora.redhat.com goes to an empty web server RUNNING CENTOS -rod From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Oct 23 20:43:16 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 02:13:16 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: FC mirror? In-Reply-To: <453C8632.8020106@crc.dk> References: <453C8632.8020106@crc.dk> Message-ID: <453D2964.2030700@fedoraproject.org> Mogens Kjaer wrote: > How does one become a FC mirrorsite? > > I've tried sending an email to the contact listed > at the bottom of > > http://fedora.redhat.com/Download/mirrors.html > > including contact, hostname, and IP number, but > I havn't heard anything... > How long back was this? I am copying the infrastructure team. Rahul From mattdm at mattdm.org Mon Oct 23 20:44:53 2006 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:44:53 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: FC mirror? In-Reply-To: <453D2964.2030700@fedoraproject.org> References: <453C8632.8020106@crc.dk> <453D2964.2030700@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <20061023204453.GA28258@jadzia.bu.edu> On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 02:13:16AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >How does one become a FC mirrorsite? > >I've tried sending an email to the contact listed > >at the bottom of > >http://fedora.redhat.com/Download/mirrors.html > >including contact, hostname, and IP number, but > >I havn't heard anything... > How long back was this? I am copying the infrastructure team. In my experience, mail to that address is answered sometime between several hours and "never, despite repeat attempts" -- with the later being far more frequent. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Tue Oct 24 01:02:22 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:02:22 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] fyi www.fedora.redhat.com goes to an empty web server RUNNING CENTOS In-Reply-To: <453D2778.2030300@redhat.com> References: <453D2778.2030300@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1161651742.20559.5.camel@cutter> On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 16:35 -0400, Rod Nayfield wrote: > www.fedora.redhat.com goes to an empty web server RUNNING CENTOS > > your shift or caps lock button is broken. :) A number of things run centos that hold up fedora. -sv From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Tue Oct 24 01:09:38 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:09:38 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] fyi www.fedora.redhat.com goes to an empty web server RUNNING CENTOS In-Reply-To: <9017-SnapperMsgF806F696C163178A@[75.195.222.42]> References: <453D2778.2030300@redhat.com> <1161651742.20559.5.camel@cutter> <9017-SnapperMsgF806F696C163178A@[75.195.222.42]> Message-ID: <1161652178.20559.8.camel@cutter> On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 21:06 -0400, Rod Nayfield wrote: > seth - as a former physics sysadmin - how can I help? Assuming I want that > to say "rhel" when the judgement day comes... it's a box run out of duke. We can't do network kickstarts from rhel for obvious reasons. What we can do is make sure the server tokens in apache don't say which distro it is running. -sv From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Tue Oct 24 01:15:35 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:15:35 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] fyi www.fedora.redhat.com goes to an empty web server RUNNING CENTOS In-Reply-To: <1161652178.20559.8.camel@cutter> References: <453D2778.2030300@redhat.com> <1161651742.20559.5.camel@cutter> <9017-SnapperMsgF806F696C163178A@[75.195.222.42]> <1161652178.20559.8.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <1161652535.20559.10.camel@cutter> On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 21:09 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 21:06 -0400, Rod Nayfield wrote: > > seth - as a former physics sysadmin - how can I help? Assuming I want that > > to say "rhel" when the judgement day comes... > > it's a box run out of duke. We can't do network kickstarts from rhel for > obvious reasons. > > What we can do is make sure the server tokens in apache don't say which > distro it is running. > Actually. I can't find any place that it is showing through the distro. Can you show me where it is showing up? -sv From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Tue Oct 24 01:18:58 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:18:58 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] fyi www.fedora.redhat.com goes to an empty web server RUNNING CENTOS In-Reply-To: <9064-SnapperMsgF806F696C1631950@[75.195.222.42]> References: <453D2778.2030300@redhat.com> <1161651742.20559.5.camel@cutter> <9017-SnapperMsgF806F696C163178A@[75.195.222.42]> <1161652178.20559.8.camel@cutter> <9064-SnapperMsgF806F696C1631950@[75.195.222.42]> Message-ID: <1161652738.20559.13.camel@cutter> On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 21:13 -0400, Rod Nayfield wrote: > >What we can do is make sure the server tokens in apache don't say which > >distro it is running. > > Thanks. Apache x.y it is. And if you need a rhel5 perpetual license, just > ask me :) > -r > > p.s. Have you heard about this fedora distro? I have - except the infrastructure team decided that for certain servers it was not viable for us to be updating them every year or so. -sv From nayfield at redhat.com Tue Oct 24 01:06:03 2006 From: nayfield at redhat.com (Rod Nayfield) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:06:03 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] fyi www.fedora.redhat.com goes to an empty web server RUNNING CENTOS In-Reply-To: <1161651742.20559.5.camel@cutter> References: <453D2778.2030300@redhat.com> <1161651742.20559.5.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <9017-SnapperMsgF806F696C163178A@[75.195.222.42]> seth - as a former physics sysadmin - how can I help? Assuming I want that to say "rhel" when the judgement day comes... ___ Rod Nayfield nayfield at redhat.com ...... Original Message ....... On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:02:22 -0400 "seth vidal" wrote: >On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 16:35 -0400, Rod Nayfield wrote: >> www.fedora.redhat.com goes to an empty web server RUNNING CENTOS >> >> > >your shift or caps lock button is broken. :) > >A number of things run centos that hold up fedora. > >-sv > > From nayfield at redhat.com Tue Oct 24 01:13:39 2006 From: nayfield at redhat.com (Rod Nayfield) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:13:39 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] fyi www.fedora.redhat.com goes to an empty web server RUNNING CENTOS In-Reply-To: <1161652178.20559.8.camel@cutter> References: <453D2778.2030300@redhat.com> <1161651742.20559.5.camel@cutter> <9017-SnapperMsgF806F696C163178A@[75.195.222.42]> <1161652178.20559.8.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <9064-SnapperMsgF806F696C1631950@[75.195.222.42]> >What we can do is make sure the server tokens in apache don't say which >distro it is running. Thanks. Apache x.y it is. And if you need a rhel5 perpetual license, just ask me :) -r p.s. Have you heard about this fedora distro? From rino.mardo at gmail.com Tue Oct 24 07:05:09 2006 From: rino.mardo at gmail.com (Rino Mardo) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:05:09 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] homepage for admin.fedoraproject.org In-Reply-To: <7a41c4bc0610231529p2988aaco9d4dd69a51ae47d6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005501c6f73a$bf802cd0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> looking great. can't wait to see the rest like the links to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Donations to name a few. _____ From: fedora-infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Paulo Santos Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 1:29 AM To: Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] homepage for admin.fedoraproject.org no idea, but shouldn't be that hard to create a simple CSS. I've already created several for previous websites i made. Usually depends on the amount of 'style' you want to add. Btw i already started working on the draft, so any comments would be apreciated. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IndexAdmin Mike: sorry about the double message, but i just replied to you and not the list... Paulo On 10/23/06, Mike McGrath wrote: On 10/22/06, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > On Sunday 22 October 2006 6:33 pm, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On 10/22/06, Paulo Santos < paulo.banon at googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I would like to start doing this asap, so far i just added my name in the > > > scheadule. > > > > > > Can you guys give me an idea, of the actual goal to be accomplished with > > > the finished page?! > > > I know its to unify the look, and according to the current draft "The > > > Fedora Infrastructure Administration homepage provides lists for all the > > > infrastructure pieces and gives links to them". So where can i get this > > > information from? > > > i'm one of the new guys so i'm still trying to integrate and to have an > > > idea of all the different 'pieces' we have in Infrastructure. > > > > > > So any help with this information would be helpfull. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Paulo > > > > Well, the admin.fp.o site has become sort of a portal to a great deal > > of our infrasturcture. But most of it is totally for the RH dev's. > > So various links to our sites, what they are, what we are, who to > > contact, when the ticketing system should be used, how to get there. > > Just an admin.fp.o welcome page really. > > > > -Mike > wasn't part of the unifying process also to create some way to deploy a css > stylesheet on the different parts of our infrastructure. give it all a > common fedora look and feel. nagios, ORTS, cacti, BackupPC as well as the > common gateway and info. > I forgot all about the style sheet. Paulo, how much work do you think it will be to create a css for our infrastructure based off the wiki css? -Mike _______________________________________________ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rino.mardo at gmail.com Tue Oct 24 07:07:58 2006 From: rino.mardo at gmail.com (Rino Mardo) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:07:58 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] A couple of nasty breakages onfedora.redhat.com In-Reply-To: <1161635865.12586.13.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Message-ID: <005a01c6f73b$25909000$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> Question: any reason why CentOS is used instead of FC? Or would it be in the same line as why OpenBSD website is using Solaris? ;-) > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com] On > Behalf Of Stephen C. Tweedie > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 11:38 PM > To: fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > Cc: Stephen Tweedie; Warren Togami > Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] A couple of nasty > breakages onfedora.redhat.com > > Hi, > > Many URLs on fedora.redhat.com are currently broken. Worse, > they are coming up as redirections to a CentOS http config. > > First, > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors/fedora-extras-i386 > is failing: > > Not Found > The requested URL /download/mirrors/fedora-extras-i386 was not > found on this server. > > Apache/2.0.52 (CentOS) Server at fedora.redhat.com Port 80 > > and as this is the official mirrors list in the FC-5 > fedora-release yum.repos.d, this breaks all FC-5 yum updates > for anybody with -extras enabled. > > And > http://www.fedora.redhat.com/ > is returning something similar: > > Index of / > Icon Name Last modified Size > Description > > ________________________________________________________________ > Apache/2.0.52 (CentOS) Server at www.fedora.redhat.com Port 80 > > --Stephen > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list From paulo.banon at googlemail.com Tue Oct 24 10:10:58 2006 From: paulo.banon at googlemail.com (Paulo Santos) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 11:10:58 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] homepage for admin.fedoraproject.org In-Reply-To: <005501c6f73a$bf802cd0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> References: <7a41c4bc0610231529p2988aaco9d4dd69a51ae47d6@mail.gmail.com> <005501c6f73a$bf802cd0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> Message-ID: <7a41c4bc0610240310v51292db4yeb439fb6d671f13b@mail.gmail.com> litle doubt regarding Bugzilla: In the Fedora Infrastructure CVS page: "you can file bugs and submit patches against Fedora Infrastructure using Bugzilla" In the bugs section of the Infrastructure page: "Bugs related to Fedora Infrastructure are tracked in Fedora's ticketing system" So where do we track what ?! Should this read something like: Fedora Distributions -> Bugzilla Fedora Infrastructure -> OSTR Is this it ? (Sorry Rino, replied to you and not the list... always forget about reply all - bad me!) Thanks, Paulo On 10/24/06, Rino Mardo wrote: > > looking great. can't wait to see the rest like the links to * > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Donations* to > name a few. > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* fedora-infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto: > fedora-infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com] *On Behalf Of *Paulo Santos > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 24, 2006 1:29 AM > *To:* Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > *Subject:* Re: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] homepage for > admin.fedoraproject.org > > no idea, but shouldn't be that hard to create a simple CSS. I've already > created several for previous websites i made. Usually depends on the amount > of 'style' you want to add. > > Btw i already started working on the draft, so any comments would be > apreciated. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IndexAdmin > > Mike: sorry about the double message, but i just replied to you and not > the list... > > > Paulo > > On 10/23/06, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > > On 10/22/06, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > > On Sunday 22 October 2006 6:33 pm, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > > On 10/22/06, Paulo Santos < paulo.banon at googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > I would like to start doing this asap, so far i just added my name > > in the > > > > > scheadule. > > > > > > > > > > Can you guys give me an idea, of the actual goal to be > > accomplished with > > > > > the finished page?! > > > > > I know its to unify the look, and according to the current draft > > "The > > > > > Fedora Infrastructure Administration homepage provides lists for > > all the > > > > > infrastructure pieces and gives links to them". So where can i get > > this > > > > > information from? > > > > > i'm one of the new guys so i'm still trying to integrate and to > > have an > > > > > idea of all the different 'pieces' we have in Infrastructure. > > > > > > > > > > So any help with this information would be helpfull. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Paulo > > > > > > > > Well, the admin.fp.o site has become sort of a portal to a great > > deal > > > > of our infrasturcture. But most of it is totally for the RH dev's. > > > > So various links to our sites, what they are, what we are, who to > > > > contact, when the ticketing system should be used, how to get there. > > > > Just an admin.fp.o welcome page really. > > > > > > > > -Mike > > > wasn't part of the unifying process also to create some way to deploy > > a css > > > stylesheet on the different parts of our infrastructure. give it all > > a > > > common fedora look and feel. nagios, ORTS, cacti, BackupPC as well as > > the > > > common gateway and info. > > > > > > > I forgot all about the style sheet. Paulo, how much work do you think > > it will be to create a css for our infrastructure based off the wiki > > css? > > > > -Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rino.mardo at gmail.com Tue Oct 24 10:33:59 2006 From: rino.mardo at gmail.com (Rino Mardo) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:33:59 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] homepage for admin.fedoraproject.org In-Reply-To: <7a41c4bc0610240310v51292db4yeb439fb6d671f13b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006901c6f757$ed8fd680$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> did same thing too. ;-) should be Fedora Infrastructures bug -> Bugzilla -> OSTR like "you found a bug? file it in bugzilla then track it using OSTR". _____ From: fedora-infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Paulo Santos Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 1:11 PM To: Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] homepage for admin.fedoraproject.org litle doubt regarding Bugzilla: In the Fedora Infrastructure CVS page: "you can file bugs and submit patches against Fedora Infrastructure using Bugzilla" In the bugs section of the Infrastructure page: "Bugs related to Fedora Infrastructure are tracked in Fedora's ticketing system" So where do we track what ?! Should this read something like: Fedora Distributions -> Bugzilla Fedora Infrastructure -> OSTR Is this it ? (Sorry Rino, replied to you and not the list... always forget about reply all - bad me!) Thanks, Paulo On 10/24/06, Rino Mardo wrote: looking great. can't wait to see the rest like the links to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Donations to name a few. _____ From: fedora-infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Paulo Santos Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 1:29 AM To: Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] homepage for admin.fedoraproject.org no idea, but shouldn't be that hard to create a simple CSS. I've already created several for previous websites i made. Usually depends on the amount of 'style' you want to add. Btw i already started working on the draft, so any comments would be apreciated. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IndexAdmin Mike: sorry about the double message, but i just replied to you and not the list... Paulo On 10/23/06, Mike McGrath wrote: On 10/22/06, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > On Sunday 22 October 2006 6:33 pm, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On 10/22/06, Paulo Santos < paulo.banon at googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I would like to start doing this asap, so far i just added my name in the > > > scheadule. > > > > > > Can you guys give me an idea, of the actual goal to be accomplished with > > > the finished page?! > > > I know its to unify the look, and according to the current draft "The > > > Fedora Infrastructure Administration homepage provides lists for all the > > > infrastructure pieces and gives links to them". So where can i get this > > > information from? > > > i'm one of the new guys so i'm still trying to integrate and to have an > > > idea of all the different 'pieces' we have in Infrastructure. > > > > > > So any help with this information would be helpfull. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Paulo > > > > Well, the admin.fp.o site has become sort of a portal to a great deal > > of our infrasturcture. But most of it is totally for the RH dev's. > > So various links to our sites, what they are, what we are, who to > > contact, when the ticketing system should be used, how to get there. > > Just an admin.fp.o welcome page really. > > > > -Mike > wasn't part of the unifying process also to create some way to deploy a css > stylesheet on the different parts of our infrastructure. give it all a > common fedora look and feel. nagios, ORTS, cacti, BackupPC as well as the > common gateway and info. > I forgot all about the style sheet. Paulo, how much work do you think it will be to create a css for our infrastructure based off the wiki css? -Mike _______________________________________________ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulo.banon at googlemail.com Tue Oct 24 10:44:28 2006 From: paulo.banon at googlemail.com (Paulo Santos) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 11:44:28 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] homepage for admin.fedoraproject.org In-Reply-To: <006901c6f757$ed8fd680$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> References: <7a41c4bc0610240310v51292db4yeb439fb6d671f13b@mail.gmail.com> <006901c6f757$ed8fd680$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> Message-ID: <7a41c4bc0610240344u140ea521me19247dd5e205180@mail.gmail.com> Ok everyone... 1st complete draft for AdminIndex is ready, please go read it and tell me if i forgot anything and/or anyone. As always, comments are apreciated. Thanks, Paulo On 10/24/06, Rino Mardo wrote: > > did same thing too. ;-) > > should be Fedora Infrastructures bug -> Bugzilla -> OSTR > > like "you found a bug? file it in bugzilla then track it using OSTR". > > ------------------------------ > *From:* fedora-infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto: > fedora-infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com] *On Behalf Of *Paulo Santos > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 24, 2006 1:11 PM > *To:* Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > *Subject:* Re: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] homepage for > admin.fedoraproject.org > > litle doubt regarding Bugzilla: > > In the Fedora Infrastructure CVS page: > "you can file bugs and submit patches against Fedora Infrastructure using > Bugzilla" > > In the bugs section of the Infrastructure page: > "Bugs related to Fedora Infrastructure are tracked in Fedora's ticketing > system" > > So where do we track what ?! Should this read something like: > Fedora Distributions -> Bugzilla > Fedora Infrastructure -> OSTR > > Is this it ? > > (Sorry Rino, replied to you and not the list... always forget about reply > all - bad me!) > > > Thanks, > Paulo > > On 10/24/06, Rino Mardo wrote: > > > > looking great. can't wait to see the rest like the links to * > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Donations* to > > name a few. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* fedora-infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto: > > fedora-infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com] *On Behalf Of *Paulo > > Santos > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 24, 2006 1:29 AM > > *To:* Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > > *Subject:* Re: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] homepage for > > admin.fedoraproject.org > > > > no idea, but shouldn't be that hard to create a simple CSS. I've > > already created several for previous websites i made. Usually depends on the > > amount of 'style' you want to add. > > > > Btw i already started working on the draft, so any comments would be > > apreciated. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IndexAdmin > > > > Mike: sorry about the double message, but i just replied to you and not > > the list... > > > > > > Paulo > > > > On 10/23/06, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > > > > On 10/22/06, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > > > On Sunday 22 October 2006 6:33 pm, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > > > On 10/22/06, Paulo Santos < paulo.banon at googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to start doing this asap, so far i just added my > > > name in the > > > > > > scheadule. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you guys give me an idea, of the actual goal to be > > > accomplished with > > > > > > the finished page?! > > > > > > I know its to unify the look, and according to the current draft > > > "The > > > > > > Fedora Infrastructure Administration homepage provides lists for > > > all the > > > > > > infrastructure pieces and gives links to them". So where can i > > > get this > > > > > > information from? > > > > > > i'm one of the new guys so i'm still trying to integrate and to > > > have an > > > > > > idea of all the different 'pieces' we have in Infrastructure. > > > > > > > > > > > > So any help with this information would be helpfull. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Paulo > > > > > > > > > > Well, the admin.fp.o site has become sort of a portal to a great > > > deal > > > > > of our infrasturcture. But most of it is totally for the RH > > > dev's. > > > > > So various links to our sites, what they are, what we are, who to > > > > > contact, when the ticketing system should be used, how to get > > > there. > > > > > Just an admin.fp.o welcome page really. > > > > > > > > > > -Mike > > > > wasn't part of the unifying process also to create some way to > > > deploy a css > > > > stylesheet on the different parts of our infrastructure. give it > > > all a > > > > common fedora look and feel. nagios, ORTS, cacti, BackupPC as well > > > as the > > > > common gateway and info. > > > > > > > > > > I forgot all about the style sheet. Paulo, how much work do you think > > > it will be to create a css for our infrastructure based off the wiki > > > css? > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > > > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rino.mardo at gmail.com Tue Oct 24 11:38:41 2006 From: rino.mardo at gmail.com (Rino Mardo) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:38:41 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] homepage for admin.fedoraproject.org In-Reply-To: <7a41c4bc0610240344u140ea521me19247dd5e205180@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <007401c6f760$f5d7a7b0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> ok this is cosmetic but: 1. should we use "defect" instead of "bug"? 2. i find this odd "Engineers have many responsibilities and will get to your defect in due time." it could read as "... and will get to the bug/s you have submitted in due time." my 2 cents. _____ From: fedora-infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Paulo Santos Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 1:44 PM To: Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] homepage for admin.fedoraproject.org Ok everyone... 1st complete draft for AdminIndex is ready, please go read it and tell me if i forgot anything and/or anyone. As always, comments are apreciated. Thanks, Paulo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rino.mardo at gmail.com Tue Oct 24 11:51:14 2006 From: rino.mardo at gmail.com (Rino Mardo) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:51:14 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Bug report to which category Message-ID: <007901c6f762$b7183330$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> Um which category to use for filing a "bug" report against the fedora accounts? -- From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Tue Oct 24 12:28:31 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:28:31 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] A couple of nasty breakages onfedora.redhat.com In-Reply-To: <005a01c6f73b$25909000$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> References: <005a01c6f73b$25909000$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> Message-ID: <1161692911.2098.0.camel@cutter> On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 10:07 +0300, Rino Mardo wrote: > Question: any reason why CentOS is used instead of FC? Or would it be in the > same line as why OpenBSD website is using Solaris? ;-) > Yes, We didn't want to be upgrading the machine once a year. -sv From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Tue Oct 24 12:39:19 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:39:19 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] A couple of nasty breakages on fedora.redhat.com In-Reply-To: <1161635865.12586.13.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> References: <1161635865.12586.13.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610240539h3cc274dfo54b23c0b4e18368f@mail.gmail.com> On 10/23/06, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote: > Hi, > > Many URLs on fedora.redhat.com are currently broken. Worse, they are > coming up as redirections to a CentOS http config. > > First, > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors/fedora-extras-i386 > is failing: > > Not Found > The requested URL /download/mirrors/fedora-extras-i386 was not > found on this server. > > Apache/2.0.52 (CentOS) Server at fedora.redhat.com Port 80 > > and as this is the official mirrors list in the FC-5 fedora-release > yum.repos.d, this breaks all FC-5 yum updates for anybody with -extras > enabled. > > And > http://www.fedora.redhat.com/ > is returning something similar: > > Index of / > Icon Name Last modified Size Description > ________________________________________________________________ > Apache/2.0.52 (CentOS) Server at www.fedora.redhat.com Port 80 > > --Stephen > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > Looks like it actually points to: mirrorlist=http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors/fedora-extras-$releasever Which would be: http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors/fedora-extras-5 for future releases make sure you capitalize the 'D' in download. -Mike From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Tue Oct 24 12:41:29 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:41:29 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Bug report to which category In-Reply-To: <007901c6f762$b7183330$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> References: <007901c6f762$b7183330$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> Message-ID: <3237e4410610240541r38c37479h82187ad109e10d61@mail.gmail.com> On 10/24/06, Rino Mardo wrote: > Um which category to use for filing a "bug" report against the fedora > accounts? > There's an accounts/security/passwords section in the ticketing system: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/tickets/ -Mike From sct at redhat.com Tue Oct 24 12:42:53 2006 From: sct at redhat.com (Stephen C. Tweedie) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:42:53 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] A couple of nasty breakages on fedora.redhat.com In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610240539h3cc274dfo54b23c0b4e18368f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1161635865.12586.13.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> <3237e4410610240539h3cc274dfo54b23c0b4e18368f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1161693773.12065.1.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> Hi, On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 07:39 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > Looks like it actually points to: > > mirrorlist=http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors/fedora-extras-$releasever > > Which would be: > > http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors/fedora-extras-5 Yes, I mistyped s/i386/5/ in the url in the email, but at the time of posting the correct url was broken in the same way, and yum updates were failing. It seems to be back up now, thanks. Cheers, Stephen From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Oct 24 13:29:25 2006 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:29:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] A couple of nasty breakages onfedora.redhat.com In-Reply-To: <1161692911.2098.0.camel@cutter> References: <005a01c6f73b$25909000$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> <1161692911.2098.0.camel@cutter> Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Oct 2006, seth vidal wrote: > On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 10:07 +0300, Rino Mardo wrote: >> Question: any reason why CentOS is used instead of FC? Or would it be in the >> same line as why OpenBSD website is using Solaris? ;-) >> > > Yes, We didn't want to be upgrading the machine once a year. CentOS is a distribution that is part of the Red Hat family, so it's still eating our own dog food. Seth is kind enough to host/manage fp.o for us. If CentOS is the distro that he wants to use, ok. It's 100% FOSS. Many Fedora contributors also contribute to CentOS. I'm fine with it all. -- Max Spevack + http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MaxSpevack + gpg key -- http://spevack.org/max.asc + fingerprint -- CD52 5E72 369B B00D 9E9A 773E 2FDB CB46 5A17 CF21 From rino.mardo at gmail.com Tue Oct 24 13:44:45 2006 From: rino.mardo at gmail.com (Rino Mardo) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:44:45 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] A couple of nasty breakages onfedora.redhat.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <007b01c6f772$9316df80$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> So would it be right to put some link in the admin site like who's hosting what using what OS. You know just to let the new comers know. We already have the donations link so I think a "thank-you-for-hosting" link is also needed. 2cents. > -----Original Message----- > From: Max Spevack [mailto:mspevack at redhat.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 4:29 PM > To: seth vidal > Cc: Rino Mardo; 'Stephen C. Tweedie'; > fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com; 'Warren Togami' > Subject: RE: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] A couple of nasty > breakages onfedora.redhat.com > > On Tue, 24 Oct 2006, seth vidal wrote: > > > On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 10:07 +0300, Rino Mardo wrote: > >> Question: any reason why CentOS is used instead of FC? Or > would it be > >> in the same line as why OpenBSD website is using Solaris? ;-) > >> > > > > Yes, We didn't want to be upgrading the machine once a year. > > CentOS is a distribution that is part of the Red Hat family, > so it's still eating our own dog food. Seth is kind enough > to host/manage fp.o for us. > If CentOS is the distro that he wants to use, ok. It's 100% > FOSS. Many Fedora contributors also contribute to CentOS. > I'm fine with it all. > > -- > Max Spevack > + http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MaxSpevack > + gpg key -- http://spevack.org/max.asc > + fingerprint -- CD52 5E72 369B B00D 9E9A 773E 2FDB CB46 5A17 CF21 > From paulo.banon at googlemail.com Tue Oct 24 13:56:59 2006 From: paulo.banon at googlemail.com (Paulo Santos) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:56:59 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] homepage for admin.fedoraproject.org In-Reply-To: <007401c6f760$f5d7a7b0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> References: <7a41c4bc0610240344u140ea521me19247dd5e205180@mail.gmail.com> <007401c6f760$f5d7a7b0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> Message-ID: <7a41c4bc0610240656n57829e37l5470f9b2fed883ce@mail.gmail.com> Modified as suggested Paulo On 10/24/06, Rino Mardo wrote: > > ok this is cosmetic but: > > > 1. should we use "defect" instead of "bug"? > 2. i find this odd "Engineers have many responsibilities and will get to > your defect in due time." > > it could read as "... and will get to the bug/s you have submitted in due > time." > > > my 2 cents. > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* fedora-infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto: > fedora-infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com] *On Behalf Of *Paulo Santos > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 24, 2006 1:44 PM > *To:* Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > *Subject:* Re: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] homepage for > admin.fedoraproject.org > > Ok everyone... > > 1st complete draft for AdminIndex is ready, please go read it and tell me > if i forgot anything and/or anyone. > As always, comments are apreciated. > > Thanks, > Paulo > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dennis at ausil.us Tue Oct 24 18:04:29 2006 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:04:29 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] hammer3 Message-ID: <200610241304.31264.dennis@ausil.us> For discussion once things settle down after the release. It seems hammer3 is very sick. I have logged into its console and tried to restart sshd which resulted in root at hammer3 ~]# /etc/init.d/sshd restart Stopping sshd: [FAILED] Starting sshd: /etc/init.d/sshd: line 100: 4550 Floating point exception$SSHD $OPTIONS [FAILED] on a reboot quite a few of the services failed with Floating point exception's most things on hammer3 don't work. I could try a rebuild as vi works. Or we need to look at replacing it. thoughts? ideas? comments? -- Dennis Gilmore, RHCE Proud Australian From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Tue Oct 24 21:09:24 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:09:24 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] release days docs/instructions/faq Message-ID: <1161724164.2098.78.camel@cutter> Hey guys, So some of you have heard that the load from today was pretty close to crippling for a while. We got it under 'control' for a bit but it wasn't happy. Mike suggested making some of our pages in the wiki static so we pulled them out using firefox and then put them onto the site using apache redirects. That worked out okay to bring the load down. We're still get beaten pretty badly but at least the load is manageable. Let's assume for now that the next N releases will be just like this. That the world will melt down. I think we should probably put together some docs on what steps to take. Here are some items we did today: 1. iptables rate limiting on fpserv: 2-4 new connection per ip for every 10-20 seconds. 2. look at the logs, figure out where all the hits are going and make those pages static. You can do this by using firefox to save the page (it grabs images and css, too) 3. turn off any unnecessary bits: zope (if its not being used, rsyncd) 4. trim out your log outputs. Decrease the number of things writing out to disk anywhere 5. get comfortable with /etc/init.d/httpd restart - just to get the load back under control What else should we be adding? -sv From sbranden at redhat.com Tue Oct 24 21:19:35 2006 From: sbranden at redhat.com (Stacy J. Brandenburg) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:19:35 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] release days docs/instructions/faq In-Reply-To: <1161724164.2098.78.camel@cutter> References: <1161724164.2098.78.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <453E8367.9040307@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Add HW. You need a dedicated load balanced env if you want to ever run the primary bits. We have 5 Dell servers for PRX, 4 APP that fell over. On top of that the Load Balancers died one time due to load - and we were not even serving pages, just redirects! These are Cisco CSM blades that failed today. Not small Load Balancers. Probably need to define well, the roles people will play for administration, so that you do not have a free for all. Maybe even shifts of people so Seth can take a shower or get food :) seth vidal wrote: > Hey guys, > So some of you have heard that the load from today was pretty close to > crippling for a while. We got it under 'control' for a bit but it wasn't > happy. Mike suggested making some of our pages in the wiki static so we > pulled them out using firefox and then put them onto the site using > apache redirects. That worked out okay to bring the load down. We're > still get beaten pretty badly but at least the load is manageable. > > Let's assume for now that the next N releases will be just like this. > That the world will melt down. I think we should probably put together > some docs on what steps to take. Here are some items we did today: > > 1. iptables rate limiting on fpserv: 2-4 new connection per ip for every > 10-20 seconds. > > 2. look at the logs, figure out where all the hits are going and make > those pages static. You can do this by using firefox to save the page > (it grabs images and css, too) > > 3. turn off any unnecessary bits: zope (if its not being used, rsyncd) > > 4. trim out your log outputs. Decrease the number of things writing out > to disk anywhere > > 5. get comfortable with /etc/init.d/httpd restart - just to get the load > back under control > > > > What else should we be adding? > > -sv > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list - -- ======================================================== = Stacy J. Brandenburg Red Hat Inc. = = Manager, Network Operations sbranden at redhat.com = = 919-754-4313 http://www.redhat.com = ======================================================== Fingerprint 03F7 43BE 1150 CCFA F57B 54DD AEDB 1C27 1828 D94D -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFPoNnrtscJxgo2U0RAp6rAKDGX11u0J2onLKYfyXlsC1MUhjC/wCg1Tqp Y/E2QQi7Lwv8NKm2lOktLk4= =6+yT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From damian.myerscough at gmail.com Tue Oct 24 21:25:34 2006 From: damian.myerscough at gmail.com (Damian Myerscough) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:25:34 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] release days docs/instructions/faq In-Reply-To: <453E8367.9040307@redhat.com> References: <1161724164.2098.78.camel@cutter> <453E8367.9040307@redhat.com> Message-ID: <8c9e56490610241425w3d4428a2t69f40600d58cde9@mail.gmail.com> We could also implement a load balancer using iptables "Nth" more details here: http://www.netfilter.org/patch-o-matic/pom-base.html#pom-base-nth if you want to balance the load to the 3 addresses 10.0.0.5, 10.0.0.6 and 10.0.0.7, then you can do as follows : iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -m nth --counter 7 --every 3 --packet 0 -j SNAT --to-source 10.0.0.5 iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -m nth --counter 7 --every 3 --packet 1 -j SNAT --to-source 10.0.0.6 iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -m nth --counter 7 --every 3 --packet 2 -j SNAT --to-source 10.0.0.7 I am sure this could help. On 24/10/06, Stacy J. Brandenburg wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Add HW. > > You need a dedicated load balanced env if you want to ever run the > primary bits. We have 5 Dell servers for PRX, 4 APP that fell over. On > top of that the Load Balancers died one time due to load - and we were > not even serving pages, just redirects! > > These are Cisco CSM blades that failed today. Not small Load Balancers. > > Probably need to define well, the roles people will play for > administration, so that you do not have a free for all. Maybe even > shifts of people so Seth can take a shower or get food :) > > > > > > seth vidal wrote: > > Hey guys, > > So some of you have heard that the load from today was pretty close to > > crippling for a while. We got it under 'control' for a bit but it wasn't > > happy. Mike suggested making some of our pages in the wiki static so we > > pulled them out using firefox and then put them onto the site using > > apache redirects. That worked out okay to bring the load down. We're > > still get beaten pretty badly but at least the load is manageable. > > > > Let's assume for now that the next N releases will be just like this. > > That the world will melt down. I think we should probably put together > > some docs on what steps to take. Here are some items we did today: > > > > 1. iptables rate limiting on fpserv: 2-4 new connection per ip for every > > 10-20 seconds. > > > > 2. look at the logs, figure out where all the hits are going and make > > those pages static. You can do this by using firefox to save the page > > (it grabs images and css, too) > > > > 3. turn off any unnecessary bits: zope (if its not being used, rsyncd) > > > > 4. trim out your log outputs. Decrease the number of things writing out > > to disk anywhere > > > > 5. get comfortable with /etc/init.d/httpd restart - just to get the load > > back under control > > > > > > > > What else should we be adding? > > > > -sv > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > > - -- > ======================================================== > = Stacy J. Brandenburg Red Hat Inc. = > = Manager, Network Operations sbranden at redhat.com = > = 919-754-4313 http://www.redhat.com = > ======================================================== > > Fingerprint > 03F7 43BE 1150 CCFA F57B 54DD AEDB 1C27 1828 D94D > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFFPoNnrtscJxgo2U0RAp6rAKDGX11u0J2onLKYfyXlsC1MUhjC/wCg1Tqp > Y/E2QQi7Lwv8NKm2lOktLk4= > =6+yT > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Tue Oct 24 21:25:49 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:25:49 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] release days docs/instructions/faq In-Reply-To: <453E8367.9040307@redhat.com> References: <1161724164.2098.78.camel@cutter> <453E8367.9040307@redhat.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610241425s710dc78dv47495f53aca13906@mail.gmail.com> On 10/24/06, Stacy J. Brandenburg wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Add HW. > > You need a dedicated load balanced env if you want to ever run the > primary bits. We have 5 Dell servers for PRX, 4 APP that fell over. On > top of that the Load Balancers died one time due to load - and we were > not even serving pages, just redirects! > > These are Cisco CSM blades that failed today. Not small Load Balancers. > > Probably need to define well, the roles people will play for > administration, so that you do not have a free for all. Maybe even > shifts of people so Seth can take a shower or get food :) > We do have 4 proxy servers and 2 app servers at present. But the wiki is not on any of them at present. Its at duke. -Mike From jw at jhop.com Tue Oct 24 21:21:36 2006 From: jw at jhop.com (Jason Watson) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:21:36 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] hammer3 In-Reply-To: <200610241304.31264.dennis@ausil.us> References: <200610241304.31264.dennis@ausil.us> Message-ID: <453E83E0.2010803@jhop.com> Dennis Gilmore wrote: > Or we need to look at replacing it. thoughts? ideas? comments? Dell has a hardware diagnostic cd that could be run to diagnose a possible hardware problem. -- Jason Watson From sbranden at redhat.com Tue Oct 24 21:49:10 2006 From: sbranden at redhat.com (Stacy J. Brandenburg) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:49:10 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] hammer3 In-Reply-To: <453E83E0.2010803@jhop.com> References: <200610241304.31264.dennis@ausil.us> <453E83E0.2010803@jhop.com> Message-ID: <453E8A56.7030209@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It is a penguin computing box... Jason Watson wrote: > Dennis Gilmore wrote: >> Or we need to look at replacing it. thoughts? ideas? comments? > > Dell has a hardware diagnostic cd that could be run to diagnose a > possible hardware problem. > > -- > Jason Watson > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list - -- ======================================================== = Stacy J. Brandenburg Red Hat Inc. = = Manager, Network Operations sbranden at redhat.com = = 919-754-4313 http://www.redhat.com = ======================================================== Fingerprint 03F7 43BE 1150 CCFA F57B 54DD AEDB 1C27 1828 D94D -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFPopWrtscJxgo2U0RAkIdAJwKMYGyxD5Dkb4v2MzepUKU7cMPWQCgloot +A0pxtE88y3GP0z//GarDSk= =RCB9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Tue Oct 24 21:52:23 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:52:23 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] release days docs/instructions/faq In-Reply-To: <453E8367.9040307@redhat.com> References: <1161724164.2098.78.camel@cutter> <453E8367.9040307@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1161726743.12988.7.camel@cutter> On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 17:19 -0400, Stacy J. Brandenburg wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Add HW. > > You need a dedicated load balanced env if you want to ever run the > primary bits. We have 5 Dell servers for PRX, 4 APP that fell over. On > top of that the Load Balancers died one time due to load - and we were > not even serving pages, just redirects! > > These are Cisco CSM blades that failed today. Not small Load Balancers. > > Probably need to define well, the roles people will play for > administration, so that you do not have a free for all. Maybe even > shifts of people so Seth can take a shower or get food :) > Here's what we talked about on IRC: 1. get the websites and docs people to split out a structure in the wiki that is the final release lay out. This will be frozen N days prior to release and static pages will be generated. This static content will be fedoraproject.org/ 2. the static content will get mirrored to a new set of mirrors in the world that we will recruit people into. These will be simple http-only mirrors. 3. fedoraproject.org can be globally load balanced using (more or less) dns round robin (more robust mechanisms are welcome) 4. we make the wiki server multiple and redundant by making use of multiple machines. So that would mean we get: 1. more capacity for the wiki server 2. global capacity for the front page and key pages for a release 3. network/site redundancy. -sv From kzak at redhat.com Tue Oct 24 21:59:25 2006 From: kzak at redhat.com (Karel Zak) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:59:25 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] release days docs/instructions/faq In-Reply-To: <1161724164.2098.78.camel@cutter> References: <1161724164.2098.78.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <20061024215925.GB2284@petra.dvoda.cz> On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 05:09:24PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > Hey guys, > So some of you have heard that the load from today was pretty close to > crippling for a while. We got it under 'control' for a bit but it wasn't > happy. Mike suggested making some of our pages in the wiki static so we > pulled them out using firefox and then put them onto the site using > apache redirects. That worked out okay to bring the load down. We're > still get beaten pretty badly but at least the load is manageable. > > Let's assume for now that the next N releases will be just like this. > That the world will melt down. I think we should probably put together > some docs on what steps to take. Here are some items we did today: > > 1. iptables rate limiting on fpserv: 2-4 new connection per ip for every > 10-20 seconds. > > 2. look at the logs, figure out where all the hits are going and make > those pages static. You can do this by using firefox to save the page > (it grabs images and css, too) I think dynamic web pages are pretty overrated... You can use mod_cache if your web application (zope, wiki, ..) correctly generates pages with Etag, Last-Modified or Expires tag. For more information read: http://www.us.apachecon.com/presentations/WE18/WE18_Performance_Up.pdf there is nice example with MoinMoin at wiki.apache.org. > What else should we be adding? More servers + load balancing? Karel -- Karel Zak From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Tue Oct 24 21:59:31 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:59:31 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] release days docs/instructions/faq In-Reply-To: <1161726743.12988.7.camel@cutter> References: <1161724164.2098.78.camel@cutter> <453E8367.9040307@redhat.com> <1161726743.12988.7.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <3237e4410610241459jb6d0b28q3df454e889790779@mail.gmail.com> On 10/24/06, seth vidal wrote: > On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 17:19 -0400, Stacy J. Brandenburg wrote: > Here's what we talked about on IRC: I agree with this in theory, implementation will be complex though. > > 1. get the websites and docs people to split out a structure in the wiki > that is the final release lay out. This will be frozen N days prior to > release and static pages will be generated. This static content will be > fedoraproject.org/ > +1 > > 2. the static content will get mirrored to a new set of mirrors in the > world that we will recruit people into. These will be simple http-only > mirrors. > if its our infrastructure it might be a good idea to do a nightly sync of the actual fp.o wiki incase the main server goes down. > 3. fedoraproject.org can be globally load balanced using (more or less) > dns round robin (more robust mechanisms are welcome) I don't know of any good way to do this. > > 4. we make the wiki server multiple and redundant by making use of > multiple machines. > > > So that would mean we get: > 1. more capacity for the wiki server > 2. global capacity for the front page and key pages for a release > 3. network/site redundancy. > > > -sv I'm wondering if we could just request some budget from max and the RH folks to grab some public mirrors during release time. I mean, digg.com has a dugmirrors site for hosts they DDOS, I believe other such services exist as well. I'm just trying to think of the easiest solution for our needs. It'd be nice to just say: 1. Freeze the wiki 2. sync the mirrors 3. cross fingers 4. enjoy the FC7 release instead of working all day :) -Mike From jw at jhop.com Tue Oct 24 21:58:22 2006 From: jw at jhop.com (Jason Watson) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:58:22 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] release days docs/instructions/faq In-Reply-To: <8c9e56490610241425w3d4428a2t69f40600d58cde9@mail.gmail.com> References: <1161724164.2098.78.camel@cutter> <453E8367.9040307@redhat.com> <8c9e56490610241425w3d4428a2t69f40600d58cde9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <453E8C7E.3070902@jhop.com> Squid can do a similar task with reverse proxying + caching + LB. The SNAT table below would possibly explode with the number of concurrent connections that we had today. I think the most important thing would be to get a small set of static pages on a dedicated server or three that could take 90% of the hits. -- Jason Watson Damian Myerscough wrote: > We could also implement a load balancer using iptables "Nth" more > details here: > > http://www.netfilter.org/patch-o-matic/pom-base.html#pom-base-nth > > if you want to balance the load to the 3 addresses 10.0.0.5, 10.0.0.6 > and 10.0.0.7, then you can do as follows : > > iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -m nth --counter 7 --every 3 > --packet 0 -j SNAT --to-source 10.0.0.5 > iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -m nth --counter 7 --every 3 > --packet 1 -j SNAT --to-source 10.0.0.6 > iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -m nth --counter 7 --every 3 > --packet 2 -j SNAT --to-source 10.0.0.7 > > I am sure this could help. From jw at jhop.com Tue Oct 24 22:41:14 2006 From: jw at jhop.com (Jason Watson) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:41:14 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] hammer3 In-Reply-To: <453E8A56.7030209@redhat.com> References: <200610241304.31264.dennis@ausil.us> <453E83E0.2010803@jhop.com> <453E8A56.7030209@redhat.com> Message-ID: <453E968A.7050909@jhop.com> Stacy J. Brandenburg wrote: > It is a penguin computing box... Ack. I thought that was one of the Dells. Nevermind. -- Jason Watson From sbranden at redhat.com Tue Oct 24 23:33:09 2006 From: sbranden at redhat.com (Stacy J. Brandenburg) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:33:09 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] release days docs/instructions/faq In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610241459jb6d0b28q3df454e889790779@mail.gmail.com> References: <1161724164.2098.78.camel@cutter> <453E8367.9040307@redhat.com> <1161726743.12988.7.camel@cutter> <3237e4410610241459jb6d0b28q3df454e889790779@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <453EA2B5.2080908@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I *MIGHT* be able to get a dedicated 11503 Cisco Content Switch for use as a LB if you want. I can make no guarantees of its success under the onslaught, but it is better than a kick in the butt. Mike McGrath wrote: > On 10/24/06, seth vidal wrote: >> On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 17:19 -0400, Stacy J. Brandenburg wrote: >> Here's what we talked about on IRC: > > I agree with this in theory, implementation will be complex though. > >> >> 1. get the websites and docs people to split out a structure in the wiki >> that is the final release lay out. This will be frozen N days prior to >> release and static pages will be generated. This static content will be >> fedoraproject.org/ >> > > +1 > >> >> 2. the static content will get mirrored to a new set of mirrors in the >> world that we will recruit people into. These will be simple http-only >> mirrors. >> > > if its our infrastructure it might be a good idea to do a nightly sync > of the actual fp.o wiki incase the main server goes down. > >> 3. fedoraproject.org can be globally load balanced using (more or less) >> dns round robin (more robust mechanisms are welcome) > > I don't know of any good way to do this. > >> >> 4. we make the wiki server multiple and redundant by making use of >> multiple machines. >> >> >> So that would mean we get: >> 1. more capacity for the wiki server >> 2. global capacity for the front page and key pages for a release >> 3. network/site redundancy. >> >> >> -sv > > I'm wondering if we could just request some budget from max and the RH > folks to grab some public mirrors during release time. I mean, > digg.com has a dugmirrors site for hosts they DDOS, I believe other > such services exist as well. I'm just trying to think of the easiest > solution for our needs. It'd be nice to just say: > > 1. Freeze the wiki > 2. sync the mirrors > 3. cross fingers > 4. enjoy the FC7 release instead of working all day :) > > -Mike - -- ======================================================== = Stacy J. Brandenburg Red Hat Inc. = = Manager, Network Operations sbranden at redhat.com = = 919-754-4313 http://www.redhat.com = ======================================================== Fingerprint 03F7 43BE 1150 CCFA F57B 54DD AEDB 1C27 1828 D94D -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFPqK1rtscJxgo2U0RAhrDAJ9SsSQIWL/kncYegfxRT5xmH0cFuwCeOB3T YvT9QjbRRbFDcko7MZa+s9Y= =eMl1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From linux at elfshadow.net Wed Oct 25 01:32:20 2006 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:32:20 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] release days docs/instructions/faq In-Reply-To: <1161726743.12988.7.camel@cutter> References: <1161724164.2098.78.camel@cutter> <453E8367.9040307@redhat.com> <1161726743.12988.7.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <453EBEA4.3030201@elfshadow.net> seth vidal wrote: > 1. get the websites and docs people to split out a structure in the wiki > that is the final release lay out. This will be frozen N days prior to > release and static pages will be generated. This static content will be > fedoraproject.org/ I definitely think this is a good idea. We need to be able to make the most hit pages on day of release static pages. That should help reduce load a fair amount, which we already saw a bit of my the static pages put in place this afternoon. I wouldn't think this to be a major issue, though we will want to be sure to let the websites and docs teams know well in advance what we would like to see. > 2. the static content will get mirrored to a new set of mirrors in the > world that we will recruit people into. These will be simple http-only > mirrors. Mirrored is good. I am more inclined to use resources we have control of to prevent undo management complexity. Bandwidth didn't seem to as much of an issue as server load. I am thinking we should use Duke, PHX and ask Stacy nicely for a bit of space at the TPA DC. This helps disperse the load across several locations. We would still need to have the server hardware to back it up with of course. The PHX DC has a few servers to throw at the problem. 4 Proxy servers and 2 app servers. The Xen boxes could always be added to that mix on release week (guests shut down and Apache running on the host boxes) to assist with the increased load. > 3. fedoraproject.org can be globally load balanced using (more or less) > dns round robin (more robust mechanisms are welcome) > > 4. we make the wiki server multiple and redundant by making use of > multiple machines. I'm in agreement here as well. --Jeffrey From itamar at ispbrasil.com.br Wed Oct 25 03:34:26 2006 From: itamar at ispbrasil.com.br (Itamar Reis Peixoto) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 00:34:26 -0300 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] how to help fedora-infrastructure. Message-ID: <002501c6f7e6$7b4adb80$0a00000a@ispbrasil> I am want to help fedora-infrastructure. what's the function of this group ? this group is responsible to maintance fedora mirrors and fedora-website ? -------------------- Itamar Reis Peixoto e-mail: itamar at ispbrasil.com.br msn: itamarjp at starmedia.com skype: itamarjp icq: 81053601 +55 34 3238 3845 +55 11 4063 5033 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Brandenburg wrote: > > Here's what we talked about on IRC: > > I agree with this in theory, implementation will be complex though. > > > > > 1. get the websites and docs people to split out a structure in the wiki > > that is the final release lay out. This will be frozen N days prior to > > release and static pages will be generated. This static content will be > > fedoraproject.org/ > > > > +1 > > > > > 2. the static content will get mirrored to a new set of mirrors in the > > world that we will recruit people into. These will be simple http-only > > mirrors. > > > > if its our infrastructure it might be a good idea to do a nightly sync > of the actual fp.o wiki incase the main server goes down. > > > 3. fedoraproject.org can be globally load balanced using (more or less) > > dns round robin (more robust mechanisms are welcome) > > I don't know of any good way to do this. > > > > > 4. we make the wiki server multiple and redundant by making use of > > multiple machines. > > > > > > So that would mean we get: > > 1. more capacity for the wiki server > > 2. global capacity for the front page and key pages for a release > > 3. network/site redundancy. > > > > > > -sv > > I'm wondering if we could just request some budget from max and the RH > folks to grab some public mirrors during release time. I mean, > digg.com has a dugmirrors site for hosts they DDOS, I believe other > such services exist as well. I'm just trying to think of the easiest > solution for our needs. It'd be nice to just say: > > 1. Freeze the wiki > 2. sync the mirrors > 3. cross fingers > 4. enjoy the FC7 release instead of working all day :) > > -Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jbourne at hardrock.org Wed Oct 25 05:43:21 2006 From: jbourne at hardrock.org (James Bourne) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:43:21 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] introduction Message-ID: Hi, Saw the request for assistance in the newsletter this week and thought I would join up. I've been using Linux systems since 1993 and have been a systems admin since 1994. I've worked with RH systems starting in 1994 (with Halloween IIRC) and have been using them ever since. I work full time at a local college here in Calgary, AB Canada where I am a senior systems admin and manage all the Linux systems (about 80), the SAN and VTL devices, and provide backup admin for the Solaris and Tru64 machines (or any other bit they need). I should be able to commit at least 4-6 hours each week, some weeks more and some less. I've already sent in the gpg signed CLA and I'm in #fedora-admin (nick etc). Regards James -- James Bourne | Email: jbourne at hardrock.org UNIX Systems Administration | WWW: http://www.hardrock.org Custom UNIX Programming | Linux: The choice of a GNU generation ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "All you need's an occasional kick in the philosophy." Frank Herbert From paulo.banon at googlemail.com Wed Oct 25 08:02:41 2006 From: paulo.banon at googlemail.com (Paulo Santos) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:02:41 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] how to help fedora-infrastructure. In-Reply-To: <002501c6f7e6$7b4adb80$0a00000a@ispbrasil> References: <002501c6f7e6$7b4adb80$0a00000a@ispbrasil> Message-ID: <7a41c4bc0610250102s5d18209aue80737211afe010f@mail.gmail.com> Hi Itamar, Welcome and thank you for the interest. First of all you should go to our wiki, since all the information you need is there. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure Regarding your question... "The Fedora Infrastructure Project is about helping all Fedora contributors get their stuff done with minimum hassle and maximum efficiency. Things under this umbrella include the Extras build system, the Fedora Account System, the CVS repositories , the mailing lists, and the Websites infrastructure. Infrastructure-related modules are in CVS." I'm also a new guy around here so i'm not sure if fedora-website is also with us. I know that at least the infrastructure used to host it, it's with us. btw don't forget to send a self introduction email, so that everyone here get to know you a bit better. Regards, Paulo On 10/25/06, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: > > I am want to help fedora-infrastructure. > > what's the function of this group ? > > this group is responsible to maintance fedora mirrors and fedora-website ? > > -------------------- > > Itamar Reis Peixoto > > e-mail: itamar at ispbrasil.com.br > msn: itamarjp at starmedia.com > skype: itamarjp > icq: 81053601 > +55 34 3238 3845 > +55 11 4063 5033 > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Wed Oct 25 13:52:25 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:52:25 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] how to help fedora-infrastructure. In-Reply-To: <7a41c4bc0610250102s5d18209aue80737211afe010f@mail.gmail.com> References: <002501c6f7e6$7b4adb80$0a00000a@ispbrasil> <7a41c4bc0610250102s5d18209aue80737211afe010f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610250652h1f3e287bj38c76dda2b291156@mail.gmail.com> On 10/25/06, Paulo Santos wrote: > Hi Itamar, > > Welcome and thank you for the interest. First of all you should go to our > wiki, since all the information you need is there. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure > Don't forget about bugzilla and open tickets https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora%20Infrastructure&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=NEEDINFO_REPORTER&bug_status=MODIFIED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=ON_DEV&bug_status=ON_QA&bug_status=RELEASE_PENDING&bug_status=POST&bug_status=FAILS_QA and https://admin.fedoraproject.org/tickets/ All this stuff is done by the people that actually select a job and do it :) If you want to be told to do something, I suppose that could be arranged though mostly its people saying 'I'd like to do this'. So go though, there's plenty of open tickets. Also go thought he infrastructure archives for an email called "priorities" To my knowledge no new people have actually offered to help on any of the projects we have coming down the pipe (new VCS for example). The key here is picking what you want to do and letting everyone know so they don't do it too ;-) Even if its just going through the open tickets and finding if they've already been done but haven't been closed. Its helpful, trust me :) -Mike From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Wed Oct 25 13:54:27 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:54:27 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] homepage for admin.fedoraproject.org In-Reply-To: <7a41c4bc0610240656n57829e37l5470f9b2fed883ce@mail.gmail.com> References: <7a41c4bc0610240344u140ea521me19247dd5e205180@mail.gmail.com> <007401c6f760$f5d7a7b0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> <7a41c4bc0610240656n57829e37l5470f9b2fed883ce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610250654i490b5f5cp2c095f101580f3c0@mail.gmail.com> On 10/24/06, Paulo Santos wrote: > Modified as suggested > > Paulo Looks good, I might get rid of some stuff like the getting started. Thats more for wanting-to-be-members. The admin.fp.o site is more of a portal for our users. Good job though Paulo, go ahead and move it to 'done' and let us know what else you'd like to work on ;-) -Mike From rino.mardo at gmail.com Wed Oct 25 14:55:45 2006 From: rino.mardo at gmail.com (Rino Mardo) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:55:45 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Ticket#: 2006081510000017 Message-ID: <005501c6f845$a8c59230$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> How does one go about fixing a ticket? Say ticket#: 2006081510000017. From wtogami at redhat.com Wed Oct 25 15:21:18 2006 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:21:18 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] hammer3 In-Reply-To: <200610241304.31264.dennis@ausil.us> References: <200610241304.31264.dennis@ausil.us> Message-ID: <453F80EE.4090508@redhat.com> Dennis Gilmore wrote: > For discussion once things settle down after the release. It seems hammer3 > is very sick. I have logged into its console and tried to restart sshd > which resulted in > root at hammer3 ~]# /etc/init.d/sshd restart > Stopping sshd: [FAILED] > Starting sshd: /etc/init.d/sshd: line 100: 4550 Floating point exception$SSHD > $OPTIONS > [FAILED] > > on a reboot quite a few of the services failed with Floating point > exception's most things on hammer3 don't work. I could try a rebuild as vi > works. Or we need to look at replacing it. thoughts? ideas? comments? > Pretty much everything crashes with a floating point exception. I wasn't able to download the memtest86+ RPM using any method. I just powered down the machine for now. Maybe Stacy can take a look at it later when he has more time. Meanwhile, do you think a xen guest to act as a temporary x86_64 builder would be useful? FC5 or FC6 guest OS? Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From jbourne at hardrock.org Wed Oct 25 15:41:37 2006 From: jbourne at hardrock.org (James Bourne) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:41:37 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Ticket #2006052510000085 Message-ID: FYI, I've attached a patch to this ticket that should do what sopwith has requested. Replace the text I added with whatever text is required. Regards James -- James Bourne | Email: jbourne at hardrock.org UNIX Systems Administration | WWW: http://www.hardrock.org Custom UNIX Programming | Linux: The choice of a GNU generation ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "All you need's an occasional kick in the philosophy." Frank Herbert From tim at robichaux.net Wed Oct 25 16:51:15 2006 From: tim at robichaux.net (Tim Robichaux) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:51:15 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] It's a pleasure to meet you all Message-ID: Hi there, I'm not quite sure how to do this but I am sending this out as my introduction. I'm a network admin in a primarily windows shop but I'm looking to branch out and help out on a project. I've been using Red Hat Linux since version 4 and I've been running Fedora on and off since version 2. I've been impressed with the progress and I would like to volunteer my time and effort and I figured that this would be a good place to stick my nose. I've been following the e-mail for a couple of days now and it looks like this is quite a hectic time with the release of FC6 but I wanted to put my introduction out there all the same. As I said, I've been a network admin for about 8 years now and I've been working on integrating Linux with our infrastructure here at work. I have quite a bit of experience running Linux on the desktop and I've bounced around on several distros so I'm about as confident in CLI as GUI. I know this isn't the grandest listing of skills, but then again, that's why I want to expand them. I'm planning on running through the bug list that was posted in response to another person's cry of volunteer-itis but if anyone has a recommendation on a good place to start (or a type of ticket that I should be looking for) I would appreciate it. If not, I'll just go through and pick something at random (: Thanks, Tim Robichaux P.S. I know this isn't signed but I'm not at home and I'm working on getting my key over to my work computer. From damian.myerscough at gmail.com Wed Oct 25 18:12:55 2006 From: damian.myerscough at gmail.com (Damian Myerscough) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:12:55 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] release days docs/instructions/faq In-Reply-To: <1161752599.5192.3.camel@leo> References: <1161724164.2098.78.camel@cutter> <453E8367.9040307@redhat.com> <1161726743.12988.7.camel@cutter> <3237e4410610241459jb6d0b28q3df454e889790779@mail.gmail.com> <1161752599.5192.3.camel@leo> Message-ID: <8c9e56490610251112mdf779f9x628897383a16cc34@mail.gmail.com> Did anyone look at iptables Nth extention? On 25/10/06, Mario Verbelen wrote: > I fully agree Mike, > > let freeze the project > notify only the mirror onwers > and release > > If I now more what is needed to be a mirror I will have more diskspace > in january > I will have unlimited traffic upon 1T at DE > so maybe I will also mirror some stuff if it do not kill my server (qos > or other limits) > > Mario, > > On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 16:59 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On 10/24/06, seth vidal wrote: > > > On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 17:19 -0400, Stacy J. Brandenburg wrote: > > > Here's what we talked about on IRC: > > > > I agree with this in theory, implementation will be complex though. > > > > > > > > 1. get the websites and docs people to split out a structure in the wiki > > > that is the final release lay out. This will be frozen N days prior to > > > release and static pages will be generated. This static content will be > > > fedoraproject.org/ > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > 2. the static content will get mirrored to a new set of mirrors in the > > > world that we will recruit people into. These will be simple http-only > > > mirrors. > > > > > > > if its our infrastructure it might be a good idea to do a nightly sync > > of the actual fp.o wiki incase the main server goes down. > > > > > 3. fedoraproject.org can be globally load balanced using (more or less) > > > dns round robin (more robust mechanisms are welcome) > > > > I don't know of any good way to do this. > > > > > > > > 4. we make the wiki server multiple and redundant by making use of > > > multiple machines. > > > > > > > > > So that would mean we get: > > > 1. more capacity for the wiki server > > > 2. global capacity for the front page and key pages for a release > > > 3. network/site redundancy. > > > > > > > > > -sv > > > > I'm wondering if we could just request some budget from max and the RH > > folks to grab some public mirrors during release time. I mean, > > digg.com has a dugmirrors site for hosts they DDOS, I believe other > > such services exist as well. I'm just trying to think of the easiest > > solution for our needs. It'd be nice to just say: > > > > 1. Freeze the wiki > > 2. sync the mirrors > > 3. cross fingers > > 4. enjoy the FC7 release instead of working all day :) > > > > -Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > > > > From jkeating at redhat.com Wed Oct 25 23:19:02 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:19:02 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: Re: wow.. why mirror? Message-ID: <200610251919.02635.jkeating@redhat.com> This was sent to our mirror discussion list. ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: wow.. why mirror? Date: Wednesday 25 October 2006 19:11 From: Jesse Keating On Wednesday 25 October 2006 16:20, Paul Hall wrote: > I'm wondering this very question too. Our site isn't even showing up on the > list of mirrors and on the other list of mirrors isn't listed correctly. We > haven't seen *any* traffic for core 6 since its release. I'm trying to > decide if theres any reason for us to continue to be a mirror and dedicate > resources to this. The job of managing mirrors fell onto me when I joined Red Hat. Dumped is probably a better term. The way mirrors were handled is pretty sad, there are _lots_ of files to edit, and a huge amount of duplicated data. Also there is no way for mirrors to make updates themselves or add / remove themselves. It's all done via email and CVS. I had requested some help in the Fedora community managing these mirrors and I got some initially, however that help seems to have dried up and I'm left to handle it all myself again. As you can expect, I was a bit busy the last couple days, and will continue to be for a while. Noticing that your mirror isn't listed the day or so of the release isn't great, as I'm not going to be able to get to it. Add to this the fact that redhat.com was getting attacked, and fedora.redhat.com is where the mirror source files lived. SO while I could change it in CVS, I would _then_ have to change it in at least 2 other places for our emergency static listings. This is by far not optimal especially on days when I have 0 extra time. Where do we go from here? We obviously need a way for mirror admins to manage their own mirror listings, and a way to submit mirror data to ONE source, and that source would be used to generate URLs to the various bits under fedora/core or fedora/extras. Nothing should change from that point lower anyway. Now that we have methods to verify mirrors are up to date, and sort by geoip, all we really need is your base URL(s). Lets see if we can get this done before the next Fedora test release. How can you help? See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure for information on how to contact our infrastructure team and help on the mirror management project. Until we get such a system up, I'm not all that interested in continuing to make fine tunes to the multitude of mirror files we have scattered around. Lets clean it up by moving to a new system. And yes, we deeply appreciate any and all mirrors. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora ------------------------------------------------------- -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We need: 1) A way for people to add their own mirrors and maintain them 2) a web interface to add/delete mirrors from the current system 3) a more efficient way of checking the mirrors 4) possible move the configs into the database itself? Anyone out there that's interested, respond to the list and add yourself to the infrastructure schedule. -MIke From sbranden at redhat.com Thu Oct 26 00:58:56 2006 From: sbranden at redhat.com (Stacy J Brandenburg) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:58:56 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] 2 new Dell servers for PHX colo In-Reply-To: <20061023173009.GB27963@lists.us.dell.com> References: <20061023155848.GA27563@lists.us.dell.com> <453CEEE9.40709@redhat.com> <453CF0BF.1030504@redhat.com> <3237e4410610230945n77220eccy997b4b05606d8255@mail.gmail.com> <453CF9CA.2050900@redhat.com> <20061023173009.GB27963@lists.us.dell.com> Message-ID: <45400850.7040205@redhat.com> Servers were received and will be mounted this week hopefully. Let you know when the are ready Matt Domsch wrote: > On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 01:20:10PM -0400, Stacy J. Brandenburg wrote: >> 35/36 Dell 2950 ??? > > That's the one Max purchased a couple months ago. > >> 37 Dell 1950 ??? > > This is the donated box with Xen guests. > > From spd1snd at gmail.com Thu Oct 26 01:55:20 2006 From: spd1snd at gmail.com (Paul Singh) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:55:20 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Self-Introduction: Paul Singh Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey all, I just happened to come across the Fedora Infrastructure team wiki page today and I thought that I may be able to help out with things. I am currently employed full time for a company that provides dedicated and colocated servers as the Director of Operations. I oversee our system administration teams and our environment is compose of mostly RHEL and Fedora boxes. We've also got a handful of Gentoo and Debian machines too. I should mention that since I've used linux on servers mostly, that's where my strengths lie -- I don't have much experience with any GUI's (or desktops) as most of our work is done on the CLI. I've been with this company for some time now and helped us through our "growing pains" as we learned to manage more and more machines through the past few years. (To give you an idea: when I first started, we had 2 full cabinets of servers and now we're well into the hundreds.) I've been working with Red Hat linux since around 2003 and I obtained my RHCE about two years ago on RHEL4. If anyone needs some help on the sys admin and/or architecture side of the house, definitely give me a shout and I'll see what I can do to help out. In the meantime, I'll be hanging out on IRC (my handle is "spd1snd") and the email list to get a feel for what's been going on lately. I look forward to becoming more involved. Thanks. - --Paul Aragorn:~ psingh$ gpg --fingerprint AA84142D pub 1024D/AA84142D 2006-10-25 Key fingerprint = 928B E0A0 96D4 0681 E3ED DC30 7E24 AA7B AA84 142D uid Paul Singh (Open Source Projects) sub 4096g/DC89EBC4 2006-10-25 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFQBWNfiSqe6qEFC0RAj//AKCqt67Paq5cI3ziB6C/ZsaeejHGegCfXJiK L3yMMsPYLmIRSykgzJm2Ic4= =xmP/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From skvidal at linux.duke.edu Thu Oct 26 06:42:35 2006 From: skvidal at linux.duke.edu (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 02:42:35 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: Re: wow.. why mirror? In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610251624m2e52ec95p7b75d79b2f5d8cd0@mail.gmail.com> References: <200610251919.02635.jkeating@redhat.com> <3237e4410610251624m2e52ec95p7b75d79b2f5d8cd0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1161844955.9263.27.camel@cutter> On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 18:24 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > On 10/25/06, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > > How can you help? See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure for > > information on how to contact our infrastructure team and help on the mirror > > management project. > > > > > now that the return-mirrors script reads from a database this should > get easier and easier. We'll need an experienced python programmer to > work on what we have. I'll maintain the current branch but we need an > overall solution for this. Who out there can help? We need: > > 1) A way for people to add their own mirrors and maintain them Authenticated, of course. > 2) a web interface to add/delete mirrors from the current system > 3) a more efficient way of checking the mirrors We should think about threading the checking. > 4) possible move the configs into the database itself? what does this mean? -sv From paulo.banon at googlemail.com Thu Oct 26 08:10:18 2006 From: paulo.banon at googlemail.com (Paulo Santos) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:10:18 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: Re: wow.. why mirror? In-Reply-To: <1161844955.9263.27.camel@cutter> References: <200610251919.02635.jkeating@redhat.com> <3237e4410610251624m2e52ec95p7b75d79b2f5d8cd0@mail.gmail.com> <1161844955.9263.27.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <7a41c4bc0610260110h40a0fc64m531bd095aaff7e80@mail.gmail.com> >From what i see in the schedule page the MirrorManagement task is defined as a closed issue. Shouldn't we update the schedule page adding the information we are discussing here, defining it as Priority 1 and setting a date for FC7-test1 ? Paulo On 10/26/06, seth vidal wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 18:24 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On 10/25/06, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > > > > How can you help? See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructurefor > > > information on how to contact our infrastructure team and help on the > mirror > > > management project. > > > > > > > > > now that the return-mirrors script reads from a database this should > > get easier and easier. 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I still run Linux at home of course. I can program in Perl, Python, PHP, Bash and Java. * Other skills: Consultancy, architecture and project management skills. * What makes me an excellent match for the project: Excellent Linux & programming skills, > 10 years experience in medium - large companies with Unix infrastructures. * GPG Keyid / Fingerprint: pub 1024D/C5FB8238 2006-10-16 Key fingerprint = 4770 2897 0386 DE09 5FC1 FE12 DCA1 47D5 C5FB 8238 uid Mark Wormgoor sub 2048g/B60BCDFE 2006-10-16 Kind regards, Mark -- *************************************************************** * |\ /| | /| / Mark Wormgoor * * | \ / | | / | / mailto:mark at wormgoor.com * * | \/ |ark |/ |/ormgoor http://www.wormgoor.com/mark/ * *************************************************************** From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Thu Oct 26 13:13:27 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:13:27 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: Re: wow.. why mirror? In-Reply-To: <1161844955.9263.27.camel@cutter> References: <200610251919.02635.jkeating@redhat.com> <3237e4410610251624m2e52ec95p7b75d79b2f5d8cd0@mail.gmail.com> <1161844955.9263.27.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <3237e4410610260613v7136ec76odae9b556541b9c6f@mail.gmail.com> On 10/26/06, seth vidal wrote: > On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 18:24 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On 10/25/06, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > > > > How can you help? See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure for > > > information on how to contact our infrastructure team and help on the mirror > > > management project. > > > > > > > > > now that the return-mirrors script reads from a database this should > > get easier and easier. We'll need an experienced python programmer to > > work on what we have. I'll maintain the current branch but we need an > > overall solution for this. Who out there can help? We need: > > > > 1) A way for people to add their own mirrors and maintain them > Authenticated, of course. > > > 2) a web interface to add/delete mirrors from the current system > > 3) a more efficient way of checking the mirrors > > We should think about threading the checking. > Definatly. > > 4) possible move the configs into the database itself? > what does this mean? > Being able to define which dists/repos are available for mirroring all through the webpage instead of a flat config file. -Mike From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Thu Oct 26 13:12:18 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:12:18 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Fwd: Re: wow.. why mirror? In-Reply-To: <7a41c4bc0610260110h40a0fc64m531bd095aaff7e80@mail.gmail.com> References: <200610251919.02635.jkeating@redhat.com> <3237e4410610251624m2e52ec95p7b75d79b2f5d8cd0@mail.gmail.com> <1161844955.9263.27.camel@cutter> <7a41c4bc0610260110h40a0fc64m531bd095aaff7e80@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610260612l7c8ca110id1fc2a5ab714971b@mail.gmail.com> On 10/26/06, Paulo Santos wrote: > From what i see in the schedule page the MirrorManagement task is defined as > a closed issue. > Shouldn't we update the schedule page adding the information we are > discussing here, defining it as Priority 1 and setting a date for FC7-test1 > ? > > > Paulo > > We can re-open it. I just need an experienced python programmer to say "Yep, I'll take it" -Mike From Matt_Domsch at dell.com Thu Oct 26 13:35:38 2006 From: Matt_Domsch at dell.com (Matt Domsch) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:35:38 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] release days docs/instructions/faq In-Reply-To: <1161726743.12988.7.camel@cutter> References: <1161724164.2098.78.camel@cutter> <453E8367.9040307@redhat.com> <1161726743.12988.7.camel@cutter> Message-ID: <20061026133537.GA10508@lists.us.dell.com> On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 05:52:23PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > 1. get the websites and docs people to split out a structure in the wiki > that is the final release lay out. This will be frozen N days prior to > release and static pages will be generated. This static content will be > fedoraproject.org/ I've been looking at this a little. There are moinmoin patches [1] to let it work more cleanly with a reverse proxy (the patches proposed are used by the Apache Software Foundation). mediawiki has options [2] to let non-authenticated users hit static cached pages, cache updated when an authenticated user edits a page. I'm still looking for same for moinmoin. Together, barring DDOS, that should reduce the load significantly. [1] http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinPatch/CachingProxies [2] $wgUseFileCache = true; $wgFileCacheDirectory = "/home/httpd/cache"; $wgShowIPinHeader = false; $wgUseGzip = false; -- Matt Domsch Software Architect Dell Linux Solutions linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux Linux on Dell mailing lists @ http://lists.us.dell.com From paulo.banon at googlemail.com Thu Oct 26 13:59:10 2006 From: paulo.banon at googlemail.com (Paulo Santos) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:59:10 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] release days docs/instructions/faq In-Reply-To: <20061026133537.GA10508@lists.us.dell.com> References: <1161724164.2098.78.camel@cutter> <453E8367.9040307@redhat.com> <1161726743.12988.7.camel@cutter> <20061026133537.GA10508@lists.us.dell.com> Message-ID: <7a41c4bc0610260659x16fcd7dbg8f324305255fa229@mail.gmail.com> We can always use squid for the static and some dynamic content. I.e. when we have the MirrorManagement project ready, we can cache the full list of mirrors for 30mins or something just my 2 cents, Paulo On 10/26/06, Matt Domsch wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 05:52:23PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > 1. get the websites and docs people to split out a structure in the wiki > > that is the final release lay out. This will be frozen N days prior to > > release and static pages will be generated. This static content will be > > fedoraproject.org/ > > I've been looking at this a little. There are moinmoin patches [1] to > let it work more cleanly with a reverse proxy (the patches proposed > are used by the Apache Software Foundation). mediawiki has options > [2] to let non-authenticated users hit static cached pages, cache > updated when an authenticated user edits a page. I'm still looking > for same for moinmoin. 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URL: From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Thu Oct 26 14:01:24 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:01:24 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] release days docs/instructions/faq In-Reply-To: <7a41c4bc0610260659x16fcd7dbg8f324305255fa229@mail.gmail.com> References: <1161724164.2098.78.camel@cutter> <453E8367.9040307@redhat.com> <1161726743.12988.7.camel@cutter> <20061026133537.GA10508@lists.us.dell.com> <7a41c4bc0610260659x16fcd7dbg8f324305255fa229@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610260701y72b142bah74f0aa3d261c04da@mail.gmail.com> On 10/26/06, Paulo Santos wrote: > We can always use squid for the static and some dynamic content. > I.e. when we have the MirrorManagement project ready, we can cache the full > list of mirrors for 30mins or something > > just my 2 cents, > > Paulo Actually that part of mirror management is already there and being used. I think the main goal here is to spread out the load among many different machines, static content helps but only so much. -Mike From laroche at redhat.com Thu Oct 26 14:21:04 2006 From: laroche at redhat.com (Florian La Roche) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:21:04 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] release days docs/instructions/faq In-Reply-To: <20061026133537.GA10508@lists.us.dell.com> References: <1161724164.2098.78.camel@cutter> <453E8367.9040307@redhat.com> <1161726743.12988.7.camel@cutter> <20061026133537.GA10508@lists.us.dell.com> Message-ID: <20061026142104.GA9687@dudweiler.stuttgart.redhat.com> On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 08:35:38AM -0500, Matt Domsch wrote: > On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 05:52:23PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > 1. get the websites and docs people to split out a structure in the wiki > > that is the final release lay out. This will be frozen N days prior to > > release and static pages will be generated. This static content will be > > fedoraproject.org/ > > I've been looking at this a little. There are moinmoin patches [1] to > let it work more cleanly with a reverse proxy (the patches proposed > are used by the Apache Software Foundation). mediawiki has options > [2] to let non-authenticated users hit static cached pages, cache > updated when an authenticated user edits a page. I'm still looking > for same for moinmoin. Together, barring DDOS, that should reduce the > load significantly. > > > [1] http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinPatch/CachingProxies > > [2] > $wgUseFileCache = true; > $wgFileCacheDirectory = "/home/httpd/cache"; > $wgShowIPinHeader = false; > $wgUseGzip = false; Is there any reason we should not do the update to moin 1.5 and then check what additional steps need to be taken? This would ensure fast upstream integration and a not too heavily patched local system. regards, Florian La Roche From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Thu Oct 26 14:42:32 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:42:32 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] release days docs/instructions/faq In-Reply-To: <20061026142104.GA9687@dudweiler.stuttgart.redhat.com> References: <1161724164.2098.78.camel@cutter> <453E8367.9040307@redhat.com> <1161726743.12988.7.camel@cutter> <20061026133537.GA10508@lists.us.dell.com> <20061026142104.GA9687@dudweiler.stuttgart.redhat.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610260742nb3b000ejc5a32c714e67e999@mail.gmail.com> On 10/26/06, Florian La Roche wrote: > On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 08:35:38AM -0500, Matt Domsch wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 05:52:23PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > > 1. get the websites and docs people to split out a structure in the wiki > > > that is the final release lay out. This will be frozen N days prior to > > > release and static pages will be generated. This static content will be > > > fedoraproject.org/ > > > > I've been looking at this a little. There are moinmoin patches [1] to > > let it work more cleanly with a reverse proxy (the patches proposed > > are used by the Apache Software Foundation). mediawiki has options > > [2] to let non-authenticated users hit static cached pages, cache > > updated when an authenticated user edits a page. I'm still looking > > for same for moinmoin. Together, barring DDOS, that should reduce the > > load significantly. > > > > > > [1] http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinPatch/CachingProxies > > > > [2] > > $wgUseFileCache = true; > > $wgFileCacheDirectory = "/home/httpd/cache"; > > $wgShowIPinHeader = false; > > $wgUseGzip = false; > > > Is there any reason we should not do the update to > moin 1.5 and then check what additional steps need > to be taken? This would ensure fast upstream integration > and a not too heavily patched local system. > > regards, > > Florian La Roche Its my understanding the web team has some code getting commited back to moin from the SOC. We've just been waiting on them. -Mike From damian.myerscough at gmail.com Thu Oct 26 15:46:55 2006 From: damian.myerscough at gmail.com (Damian Myerscough) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:46:55 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] release days docs/instructions/faq In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610260742nb3b000ejc5a32c714e67e999@mail.gmail.com> References: <1161724164.2098.78.camel@cutter> <453E8367.9040307@redhat.com> <1161726743.12988.7.camel@cutter> <20061026133537.GA10508@lists.us.dell.com> <20061026142104.GA9687@dudweiler.stuttgart.redhat.com> <3237e4410610260742nb3b000ejc5a32c714e67e999@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8c9e56490610260846s57089674n897a3e516ede1492@mail.gmail.com> I have been looking into the issue has anyone though of: mod_backhand this module could help with load balancing. http://www.backhand.org/mod_backhand/ On 26/10/06, Mike McGrath wrote: > On 10/26/06, Florian La Roche wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 08:35:38AM -0500, Matt Domsch wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 05:52:23PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > > > 1. get the websites and docs people to split out a structure in the wiki > > > > that is the final release lay out. This will be frozen N days prior to > > > > release and static pages will be generated. This static content will be > > > > fedoraproject.org/ > > > > > > I've been looking at this a little. There are moinmoin patches [1] to > > > let it work more cleanly with a reverse proxy (the patches proposed > > > are used by the Apache Software Foundation). mediawiki has options > > > [2] to let non-authenticated users hit static cached pages, cache > > > updated when an authenticated user edits a page. I'm still looking > > > for same for moinmoin. Together, barring DDOS, that should reduce the > > > load significantly. > > > > > > > > > [1] http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinPatch/CachingProxies > > > > > > [2] > > > $wgUseFileCache = true; > > > $wgFileCacheDirectory = "/home/httpd/cache"; > > > $wgShowIPinHeader = false; > > > $wgUseGzip = false; > > > > > > Is there any reason we should not do the update to > > moin 1.5 and then check what additional steps need > > to be taken? This would ensure fast upstream integration > > and a not too heavily patched local system. > > > > regards, > > > > Florian La Roche > > Its my understanding the web team has some code getting commited back > to moin from the SOC. We've just been waiting on them. > > -Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > From linux at elfshadow.net Thu Oct 26 15:54:02 2006 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:54:02 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] release days docs/instructions/faq In-Reply-To: <8c9e56490610260846s57089674n897a3e516ede1492@mail.gmail.com> References: <1161724164.2098.78.camel@cutter> <453E8367.9040307@redhat.com> <1161726743.12988.7.camel@cutter> <20061026133537.GA10508@lists.us.dell.com> <20061026142104.GA9687@dudweiler.stuttgart.redhat.com> <3237e4410610260742nb3b000ejc5a32c714e67e999@mail.gmail.com> <8c9e56490610260846s57089674n897a3e516ede1492@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4540DA1A.2010900@elfshadow.net> Damian Myerscough wrote: > I have been looking into the issue has anyone though of: mod_backhand > this module could help with load balancing. > > http://www.backhand.org/mod_backhand/ I think this will hurt (from their FAQ): Question: Does mod_backhand support Apache 2? Answer: Nope. There has been thought, but no real work. The design of mod_backhand is very specific to both UNIX and a multiprocess-model. Apache 2 does away with the latter, so mod_backhand 2.x will need to be written from the ground up. From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Thu Oct 26 16:30:23 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:30:23 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] 'the plan' Message-ID: <3237e4410610260930n3ef165c7k17a9e73a42b60d43@mail.gmail.com> Ok, so here's 'the plan' we're working on if you guys are cool with it. Strip f.r.c out to only have: /Download/mirrors/ / The / will be a static page identical to the one on the wiki (instead of redirecting the users to the page, we'll bring the page right too them) If need be we will start removing things like graphics, formatting, etc. We'll stick the content on our two app servers, we'll enable caching on our 4 proxy servers. We can use rpm.livina.com as an app server and one of our xen boxes as an app server if need be (thanks Pix). Once that's done, change f.r.c to point to the new IP address. Then cross our fingers. Redirecting traffic to fp.o over the weekend is out of the question. Seth is gone and that box is extremely important, its not just the wiki but also our primary DNS and some other services. What do you think? -Mike From jkeating at redhat.com Thu Oct 26 16:35:29 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:35:29 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] 'the plan' In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610260930n3ef165c7k17a9e73a42b60d43@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610260930n3ef165c7k17a9e73a42b60d43@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610261235.29807.jkeating@redhat.com> On Thursday 26 October 2006 12:30, Mike McGrath wrote: > Strip f.r.c out to only have: > > /Download/mirrors/ > > / We need /download/mirrors/ too because I'm a twit and typod the yumconf files for FC5. Btw, I'm going to prepare a new fedora-release package for FC5 that changes the mirror URLs to mirrors.fedoraproject.org so we don't get hit with this again. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mike McGrath wrote: > Ok, so here's 'the plan' we're working on if you guys are cool with it. > > Strip f.r.c out to only have: > > /Download/mirrors/ > > / > > > The / will be a static page identical to the one on the wiki (instead > of redirecting the users to the page, we'll bring the page right too > them) If need be we will start removing things like graphics, > formatting, etc. > > We'll stick the content on our two app servers, we'll enable caching > on our 4 proxy servers. We can use rpm.livina.com as an app server > and one of our xen boxes as an app server if need be (thanks Pix). > > > Once that's done, change f.r.c to point to the new IP address. Then > cross our fingers. Redirecting traffic to fp.o over the weekend is > out of the question. Seth is gone and that box is extremely > important, its not just the wiki but also our primary DNS and some > other services. What do you think? > > -Mike From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Thu Oct 26 16:53:38 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:53:38 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: 'the plan' In-Reply-To: <4540E6F4.7000008@redhat.com> References: <3237e4410610260930n3ef165c7k17a9e73a42b60d43@mail.gmail.com> <4540E6F4.7000008@redhat.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610260953h20c93059ja17b864eff176453@mail.gmail.com> On 10/26/06, Stacy J Brandenburg wrote: > Like I said, if you can provide me content based on the outage page we > have now, I can add it. Well thats easy then. http://fedoraproject.org/mirrors/ -> f.rh.c/download/mirrors/ -> f.rh.c/Download/mirrors/ we may have to come up with a special page that is a combination of the wiki mirrors page and the main page if we want. -Mike From jkeating at redhat.com Thu Oct 26 16:56:09 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:56:09 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: 'the plan' In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610260953h20c93059ja17b864eff176453@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610260930n3ef165c7k17a9e73a42b60d43@mail.gmail.com> <4540E6F4.7000008@redhat.com> <3237e4410610260953h20c93059ja17b864eff176453@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610261256.09483.jkeating@redhat.com> On Thursday 26 October 2006 12:53, Mike McGrath wrote: > > Like I said, if you can provide me content based on the outage page we > > have now, I can add it. > > Well thats easy then. > > http://fedoraproject.org/mirrors/ -> f.rh.c/download/mirrors/ > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -> f.rh.c/Download/mirrors/ > Ok, I'm a simpleton. I don't follow this exchange here... Is Stacy asking for different content to put on our outage page? -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sbranden at redhat.com Thu Oct 26 17:00:33 2006 From: sbranden at redhat.com (Stacy J Brandenburg) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:00:33 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: 'the plan' In-Reply-To: <200610261256.09483.jkeating@redhat.com> References: <3237e4410610260930n3ef165c7k17a9e73a42b60d43@mail.gmail.com> <4540E6F4.7000008@redhat.com> <3237e4410610260953h20c93059ja17b864eff176453@mail.gmail.com> <200610261256.09483.jkeating@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4540E9B1.7040606@redhat.com> Yes, Give me content to place on the page. I cannot make the whole of the structure show up in TPA, but I can change the page that is there. If someone other than Seth can and wants to take responsibility for the FP.org server in Duke, we can redirect it there via NS. However, if we do anything to negatively impact their services, you must realize you will be held accountable for making that call. Jesse Keating wrote: > On Thursday 26 October 2006 12:53, Mike McGrath wrote: >>> Like I said, if you can provide me content based on the outage page we >>> have now, I can add it. >> Well thats easy then. >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/mirrors/ -> f.rh.c/download/mirrors/ >> -> f.rh.c/Download/mirrors/ >> > > Ok, I'm a simpleton. I don't follow this exchange here... Is Stacy asking > for different content to put on our outage page? > > From jkeating at redhat.com Thu Oct 26 17:03:20 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:03:20 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: 'the plan' In-Reply-To: <4540E9B1.7040606@redhat.com> References: <3237e4410610260930n3ef165c7k17a9e73a42b60d43@mail.gmail.com> <200610261256.09483.jkeating@redhat.com> <4540E9B1.7040606@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200610261303.20745.jkeating@redhat.com> On Thursday 26 October 2006 13:00, Stacy J Brandenburg wrote: > Give me content to place on the page. ?I cannot make the whole of the > structure show up in TPA, but I can change the page that is there. > > If someone other than Seth can and wants to take responsibility for the > FP.org server in Duke, we can redirect it there via NS. > > However, if we do anything to negatively impact their services, you must > realize you will be held accountable for making that call. right. We're not talking about a content change per se. We're talking about a DNS change to completely bypass redhat.com infrastructure, and taking responsibility for this subdomain for the time being. Mike outlined the plan to handle the load, which does not involve the fp.org host at Duke. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sbranden at redhat.com Thu Oct 26 17:24:00 2006 From: sbranden at redhat.com (Stacy J Brandenburg) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:24:00 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: 'the plan' In-Reply-To: <200610261303.20745.jkeating@redhat.com> References: <3237e4410610260930n3ef165c7k17a9e73a42b60d43@mail.gmail.com> <200610261256.09483.jkeating@redhat.com> <4540E9B1.7040606@redhat.com> <200610261303.20745.jkeating@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4540EF30.5060208@redhat.com> Chris was able to get the directories /download/mirrors and /Download/mirrors on the static pages. See if that get you over the hump. Jesse Keating wrote: > On Thursday 26 October 2006 13:00, Stacy J Brandenburg wrote: >> Give me content to place on the page. I cannot make the whole of the >> structure show up in TPA, but I can change the page that is there. >> >> If someone other than Seth can and wants to take responsibility for the >> FP.org server in Duke, we can redirect it there via NS. >> >> However, if we do anything to negatively impact their services, you must >> realize you will be held accountable for making that call. > > right. We're not talking about a content change per se. We're talking about > a DNS change to completely bypass redhat.com infrastructure, and taking > responsibility for this subdomain for the time being. Mike outlined the plan > to handle the load, which does not involve the fp.org host at Duke. > -- ======================================================== = Stacy J. Brandenburg Red Hat Inc. = = Manager, Network Operations sbranden at redhat.com = = 919-754-4313 http://www.redhat.com = ======================================================== From jkeating at redhat.com Thu Oct 26 17:30:03 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:30:03 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: 'the plan' In-Reply-To: <4540EF30.5060208@redhat.com> References: <3237e4410610260930n3ef165c7k17a9e73a42b60d43@mail.gmail.com> <200610261303.20745.jkeating@redhat.com> <4540EF30.5060208@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200610261330.03496.jkeating@redhat.com> On Thursday 26 October 2006 13:24, Stacy J Brandenburg wrote: > Chris was able to get the directories /download/mirrors and > /Download/mirrors on the static pages. ?See if that get you over the hump. /Download/mirrors/ is working, however /download/mirrors/ still seems to be the outage page. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sbranden at redhat.com Thu Oct 26 17:32:22 2006 From: sbranden at redhat.com (Stacy J Brandenburg) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:32:22 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: 'the plan' In-Reply-To: <200610261330.03496.jkeating@redhat.com> References: <3237e4410610260930n3ef165c7k17a9e73a42b60d43@mail.gmail.com> <200610261303.20745.jkeating@redhat.com> <4540EF30.5060208@redhat.com> <200610261330.03496.jkeating@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4540F126.3000803@redhat.com> We are adding it now. Stand by for 10 min. Jesse Keating wrote: > On Thursday 26 October 2006 13:24, Stacy J Brandenburg wrote: >> Chris was able to get the directories /download/mirrors and >> /Download/mirrors on the static pages. See if that get you over the hump. > > /Download/mirrors/ is working, however /download/mirrors/ still seems to be > the outage page. > -- ======================================================== = Stacy J. Brandenburg Red Hat Inc. = = Manager, Network Operations sbranden at redhat.com = = 919-754-4313 http://www.redhat.com = ======================================================== From sbranden at redhat.com Thu Oct 26 17:40:16 2006 From: sbranden at redhat.com (Stacy J Brandenburg) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:40:16 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: 'the plan' In-Reply-To: <4540F126.3000803@redhat.com> References: <3237e4410610260930n3ef165c7k17a9e73a42b60d43@mail.gmail.com> <200610261303.20745.jkeating@redhat.com> <4540EF30.5060208@redhat.com> <200610261330.03496.jkeating@redhat.com> <4540F126.3000803@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4540F300.9070501@redhat.com> Fixed. Stacy J Brandenburg wrote: > We are adding it now. Stand by for 10 min. > > Jesse Keating wrote: >> On Thursday 26 October 2006 13:24, Stacy J Brandenburg wrote: >>> Chris was able to get the directories /download/mirrors and >>> /Download/mirrors on the static pages. See if that get you over the >>> hump. >> >> /Download/mirrors/ is working, however /download/mirrors/ still seems >> to be the outage page. >> > -- ======================================================== = Stacy J. Brandenburg Red Hat Inc. = = Manager, Network Operations sbranden at redhat.com = = 919-754-4313 http://www.redhat.com = ======================================================== From jkeating at redhat.com Thu Oct 26 17:40:44 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:40:44 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: 'the plan' In-Reply-To: <4540F126.3000803@redhat.com> References: <3237e4410610260930n3ef165c7k17a9e73a42b60d43@mail.gmail.com> <200610261330.03496.jkeating@redhat.com> <4540F126.3000803@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200610261340.44366.jkeating@redhat.com> On Thursday 26 October 2006 13:32, Stacy J Brandenburg wrote: > We are adding it now. ?Stand by for 10 min. Thank you very much for this quick work Stacy. This setup should service our users well throughout the weekend. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sbranden at redhat.com Thu Oct 26 17:48:05 2006 From: sbranden at redhat.com (Stacy J Brandenburg) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:48:05 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: 'the plan' In-Reply-To: <200610261340.44366.jkeating@redhat.com> References: <3237e4410610260930n3ef165c7k17a9e73a42b60d43@mail.gmail.com> <200610261330.03496.jkeating@redhat.com> <4540F126.3000803@redhat.com> <200610261340.44366.jkeating@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4540F4D5.1090409@redhat.com> Great, we can examine moving it back to PHX on Monday once we get through this short period... Jesse Keating wrote: > On Thursday 26 October 2006 13:32, Stacy J Brandenburg wrote: >> We are adding it now. Stand by for 10 min. > > Thank you very much for this quick work Stacy. This setup should service our > users well throughout the weekend. > -- ======================================================== = Stacy J. Brandenburg Red Hat Inc. = = Manager, Network Operations sbranden at redhat.com = = 919-754-4313 http://www.redhat.com = ======================================================== From rino.mardo at gmail.com Thu Oct 26 18:31:39 2006 From: rino.mardo at gmail.com (Rino Mardo) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:31:39 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: 'the plan' In-Reply-To: <4540E9B1.7040606@redhat.com> Message-ID: <00ea01c6f92c$fd6093c0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> > > If someone other than Seth can and wants to take > responsibility for the FP.org server in Duke, we can redirect > it there via NS. > Speaking on behalf of the newcomers here, you mean take care (remotely) of the server that is there in Duke or host the fp.o on Duke to some other servers? I asking because over the weekend I'm looking for hosting services for my personal use. From wtogami at redhat.com Thu Oct 26 18:36:49 2006 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:36:49 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] <--- Remove That Message-ID: <45410041.7020109@redhat.com> Hey folks, Why don't we remove the subject prefix from this list? Or at least make it shorter... Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From dennis at ausil.us Thu Oct 26 18:46:34 2006 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:46:34 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] <--- Remove That In-Reply-To: <45410041.7020109@redhat.com> References: <45410041.7020109@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200610261346.35341.dennis@ausil.us> On Thursday 26 October 2006 13:36, Warren Togami wrote: > Hey folks, > > Why don't we remove the subject prefix from this list? > > Or at least make it shorter... > > Warren Togami > wtogami at redhat.com Warren, i'm all for that [FIL] [F-I-L] or nothing is my vote -- Dennis Gilmore, RHCE Proud Australian From spd1snd at gmail.com Thu Oct 26 19:19:12 2006 From: spd1snd at gmail.com (Paul Singh) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:19:12 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] <--- Remove That In-Reply-To: <200610261346.35341.dennis@ausil.us> References: <45410041.7020109@redhat.com> <200610261346.35341.dennis@ausil.us> Message-ID: <93D9533C-7696-4E14-B0FD-49AF8BF317CB@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm with ya. Shortening it is a good idea -- if [FIL] is too short, maybe [Fedora-Infrastructure] is a good start. It's a small change, but it would help me read subject lines without having to actually open the email on my tiny laptop screen. :) - --Paul On Oct 26, 2006, at 2:46 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > On Thursday 26 October 2006 13:36, Warren Togami wrote: >> Hey folks, >> >> Why don't we remove the subject prefix from this list? >> >> Or at least make it shorter... >> >> Warren Togami >> wtogami at redhat.com > Warren, > i'm all for that [FIL] [F-I-L] or nothing is my vote > > -- > Dennis Gilmore, RHCE > Proud Australian > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFQQozfiSqe6qEFC0RAtFAAJsFJicms8iFeesyitItZ4gGnpVWHQCgqqJb gJ/NM++v5LRHkg+h/gx812c= =ymM0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sbranden at redhat.com Thu Oct 26 19:54:39 2006 From: sbranden at redhat.com (Stacy J. Brandenburg) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:54:39 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: 'the plan' In-Reply-To: <00ea01c6f92c$fd6093c0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> References: <00ea01c6f92c$fd6093c0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> Message-ID: <4541127F.4050609@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I did not want to crush Seth or Duke, who are currently hosting fedoraproject.org Rino Mardo wrote: >> If someone other than Seth can and wants to take >> responsibility for the FP.org server in Duke, we can redirect >> it there via NS. >> > > Speaking on behalf of the newcomers here, you mean take care (remotely) of > the server that is there in Duke or host the fp.o on Duke to some other > servers? I asking because over the weekend I'm looking for hosting services > for my personal use. > - -- ======================================================== = Stacy J. Brandenburg Red Hat Inc. = = Manager, Network Operations sbranden at redhat.com = = 919-754-4313 http://www.redhat.com = ======================================================== Fingerprint 03F7 43BE 1150 CCFA F57B 54DD AEDB 1C27 1828 D94D -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFQRJ/rtscJxgo2U0RAoz5AKCUJnnsbHUFEOKgQ4hoFGfISWzGowCeKyVV y3TB0K2m5M8ekmiWtkFlGeM= =Ek1y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nman64 at n-man.com Thu Oct 26 20:55:55 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick W. Barnes) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:55:55 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] <--- Remove That In-Reply-To: <93D9533C-7696-4E14-B0FD-49AF8BF317CB@gmail.com> References: <45410041.7020109@redhat.com> <200610261346.35341.dennis@ausil.us> <93D9533C-7696-4E14-B0FD-49AF8BF317CB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610261555.58396.nman64@n-man.com> On Thursday 26 October 2006 14:19, Paul Singh wrote: > I'm with ya. Shortening it is a good idea -- if [FIL] is too short, > maybe [Fedora-Infrastructure] is a good start. > > It's a small change, but it would help me read subject lines without > having to actually open the email on my tiny laptop screen. :) > Personally, I'd be happy with nothing, but the shorter the better. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://n-man.com/ LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/nman64 Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ask at develooper.com Thu Oct 26 21:36:47 2006 From: ask at develooper.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ask_Bj=F8rn_Hansen?=) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:36:47 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] release days docs/instructions/faq In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610260701y72b142bah74f0aa3d261c04da@mail.gmail.com> References: <1161724164.2098.78.camel@cutter> <453E8367.9040307@redhat.com> <1161726743.12988.7.camel@cutter> <20061026133537.GA10508@lists.us.dell.com> <7a41c4bc0610260659x16fcd7dbg8f324305255fa229@mail.gmail.com> <3237e4410610260701y72b142bah74f0aa3d261c04da@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Oct 26, 2006, at 7:01 AM, Mike McGrath wrote: > Actually that part of mirror management is already there and being > used. I think the main goal here is to spread out the load among many > different machines, static content helps but only so much. Are the docs/instructions/faq pages really being hit so much that a server or two with static pages and a well configured http server can't keep up? - ask -- http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ From ask at develooper.com Thu Oct 26 21:38:24 2006 From: ask at develooper.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ask_Bj=F8rn_Hansen?=) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:38:24 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] release days docs/instructions/faq In-Reply-To: <8c9e56490610260846s57089674n897a3e516ede1492@mail.gmail.com> References: <1161724164.2098.78.camel@cutter> <453E8367.9040307@redhat.com> <1161726743.12988.7.camel@cutter> <20061026133537.GA10508@lists.us.dell.com> <20061026142104.GA9687@dudweiler.stuttgart.redhat.com> <3237e4410610260742nb3b000ejc5a32c714e67e999@mail.gmail.com> <8c9e56490610260846s57089674n897a3e516ede1492@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <641CF79C-FB73-4CCF-A28F-2B1949D6F322@develooper.com> On Oct 26, 2006, at 8:46 AM, Damian Myerscough wrote: > I have been looking into the issue has anyone though of: mod_backhand > this module could help with load balancing. > > http://www.backhand.org/mod_backhand/ perlbal is different, but fits in similarly shaped holes as mod_backhand. http://www.danga.com/perlbal/ - ask -- http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ From linux at elfshadow.net Thu Oct 26 21:54:32 2006 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:54:32 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] IRC Meeting Log - 10/26/06 Message-ID: <45412E98.6020708@elfshadow.net> This weeks IRC meeting log is attached. --Jeffrey -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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Shortening it is a good idea -- if [FIL] is too short, > > maybe [Fedora-Infrastructure] is a good start. > > > > It's a small change, but it would help me read subject lines without > > having to actually open the email on my tiny laptop screen. :) > > > > Personally, I'd be happy with nothing, but the shorter the better. Nothing is fine. Just filter the list based on email address. If there is to be a change, why not do it across the board for all Fedora lists? You could use the 2 letter acronym FC (as in Fedora Core). Using square brackets to denote a mailing list and removing the '-list' section. eg. [FC-Infrastructure] Subject or for the fedora-laptop-list: [FC-Laptop] Subject or even: [fc-laptop] I've also noticed that the case for the naming of the Fedora mailing lists are inconsistent. Some start with a capital, F, some don't. Why not make it lowercase across the board? You already have the description for the page so it will make it a lot neater and cohesive. ~ Julian RHCT (RHCE in the making) From nman64 at n-man.com Fri Oct 27 06:53:37 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick W. Barnes) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 01:53:37 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] <--- Remove That In-Reply-To: References: <45410041.7020109@redhat.com> <200610261555.58396.nman64@n-man.com> Message-ID: <200610270153.40157.nman64@n-man.com> On Friday 27 October 2006 01:35, Julian Yap wrote: > > Nothing is fine. Just filter the list based on email address. > > If there is to be a change, why not do it across the board for all Fedora > lists? Each list is opened and managed by a different person or people, who may wish to follow different practices. No attempt has ever been made to enforce a global policy. > > You could use the 2 letter acronym FC (as in Fedora Core). Using > square brackets to denote a mailing list and removing the '-list' > section. > > eg. [FC-Infrastructure] Subject > or for the fedora-laptop-list: > [FC-Laptop] Subject > or even: > [fc-laptop] > Using Fedora Core (FC) as a base would be inappropriate. Core is just one subproject. The greater umbrella is the Fedora Project (FP). > I've also noticed that the case for the naming of the Fedora mailing > lists are inconsistent. Some start with a capital, F, some don't. > > Why not make it lowercase across the board? You already have the > description for the page so it will make it a lot neater and cohesive. Again, this is dependent upon each list's manager. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://n-man.com/ LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/nman64 Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'd like to see "Guidelines for a fedora mailing list policy" that should be followed, but not enforced -- I'm getting more and more confused with all those different settings on the different lists. On some fedora-lists there are tags, some don't have them. Some modify the reply-to, other not, and you have to watch carefully if you have to click on Reply-to or on Reply-to-All. It's makes everything a bit annoying... CU thl From jkeating at redhat.com Fri Oct 27 10:27:55 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:27:55 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] <--- Remove That In-Reply-To: <4541B519.5010609@leemhuis.info> References: <45410041.7020109@redhat.com> <200610270153.40157.nman64@n-man.com> <4541B519.5010609@leemhuis.info> Message-ID: <200610270627.55667.jkeating@redhat.com> On Friday 27 October 2006 03:28, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > and you have to watch carefully if you have to > click on Reply-to or on Reply-to-All. It's makes everything a bit > annoying... Or you just ignore such settings and use reply-list, or if you want to send a specific reply to a specific person, right click -> reply-to. Works pretty darn great in Kmail. I haven't even thought about what reply-to is set on a mailing list for years. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jkeating at redhat.com Fri Oct 27 10:29:22 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:29:22 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Re: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] <--- Remove That In-Reply-To: <200610270114.54811.nman64@n-man.com> References: <200610270114.54811.nman64@n-man.com> Message-ID: <200610270629.22395.jkeating@redhat.com> On Friday 27 October 2006 02:14, Patrick W. Barnes wrote: > I'm using the subject as filter > so I like that there is something > > I'm OK with smaller but remove will be annoying You _really_ should be filtering on the 'list-post' header. Each post that goes to this list has a header: List-Post: So you can filter on: if HEADER List-Post CONTAINS fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com MOVETO ->.... -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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And not in Evolution IIRC (I switched to thunderbird some months ago). CU thl From jkeating at redhat.com Fri Oct 27 11:02:42 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:02:42 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] <--- Remove That In-Reply-To: <4541E6B5.4090005@leemhuis.info> References: <45410041.7020109@redhat.com> <200610270627.55667.jkeating@redhat.com> <4541E6B5.4090005@leemhuis.info> Message-ID: <200610270702.42996.jkeating@redhat.com> On Friday 27 October 2006 07:00, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > But not in thunderbird. And not in Evolution IIRC (I switched to > thunderbird some months ago). Sounds like bugs. I've filed RFEs for evolution before to get the 'right click -> reply-to' ability, but it fell on deaf ears. Evo does have reply-list though. T-bird is just a lost cause to me. 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(Just making sure its documented somewhere) -Mike From dennis at ausil.us Fri Oct 27 13:54:09 2006 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:54:09 -0500 Subject: Builders Message-ID: <200610270854.09553.dennis@ausil.us> Hey, I had a thought about the builders that i wanted to run by everyone. it seems that the chroot exploded on hammer1 and as a result some files got installed in the real filesystem not in the chroot. so as a way to help things in the future. once we are done with analysis we will need to rebuild hammer1 So what i want to do is install a xen host on hammer1 and actually have hammer1 a xen guest. it would be the only guest on the system but if the same thing happened again it would be a simple task to fix. warren to do this we would need a internal only ip for the xen host. so what id like to do as far as the xen guest goes. and we should probably do this with all production xen guests. is create a snapshot of the lvm volume once the system is up and running and ready. so if the chroot explodes again we put the snapshot in place start the instance and things are back in a matter of minutes. we would have a pre-configured system ready to roll. thoughts? opinions? objections? -- Dennis Gilmore, RHCE Proud Australian From dennis at ausil.us Fri Oct 27 13:55:17 2006 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:55:17 -0500 Subject: Xen guests and internet access In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610270624n7efd441fqbff5e5d63cb8d24c@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610270624n7efd441fqbff5e5d63cb8d24c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610270855.17809.dennis@ausil.us> On Friday 27 October 2006 08:24, Mike McGrath wrote: > Did we all agree that the test instances should have http and https > open for the xen guests? (Just making sure its documented somewhere) > > -Mike > I think so, we should also possibly have 8888 and 8889 on a couple of the ips we could use as emergency builders. -- Dennis Gilmore, RHCE Proud Australian From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Fri Oct 27 14:02:07 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:02:07 -0500 Subject: Builders In-Reply-To: <200610270854.09553.dennis@ausil.us> References: <200610270854.09553.dennis@ausil.us> Message-ID: <3237e4410610270702g7a6a97d3v3e35b95b1e21e7c4@mail.gmail.com> On 10/27/06, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > Hey, > > I had a thought about the builders that i wanted to run by everyone. it seems > that the chroot exploded on hammer1 and as a result some files got > installed in the real filesystem not in the chroot. so as a way to help > things in the future. once we are done with analysis we will need to rebuild > hammer1 So what i want to do is install a xen host on hammer1 and actually > have hammer1 a xen guest. it would be the only guest on the system but if > the same thing happened again it would be a simple task to fix. warren to > do this we would need a internal only ip for the xen host. > > so what id like to do as far as the xen guest goes. and we should probably do > this with all production xen guests. is create a snapshot of the lvm volume > once the system is up and running and ready. so if the chroot explodes > again we put the snapshot in place start the instance and things are back > in a matter of minutes. we would have a pre-configured system ready to roll. > > thoughts? opinions? objections? > I'm kind of in the boat that we should just use large files and skip the partition all together, that way its an scp or a cp away from having another guest. -Mike From Christian.Iseli at licr.org Fri Oct 27 14:08:00 2006 From: Christian.Iseli at licr.org (Christian Iseli) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:08:00 +0200 Subject: Builders In-Reply-To: <200610270854.09553.dennis@ausil.us> References: <200610270854.09553.dennis@ausil.us> Message-ID: <20061027160800.478a82a8@ludwig-alpha.unil.ch> On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:54:09 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > so what id like to do as far as the xen guest goes. and we should probably do > this with all production xen guests. is create a snapshot of the lvm volume > once the system is up and running and ready. so if the chroot explodes > again we put the snapshot in place start the instance and things are back > in a matter of minutes. we would have a pre-configured system ready to roll. > > thoughts? Sounds like a good idea. C From tim at robichaux.net Fri Oct 27 16:41:43 2006 From: tim at robichaux.net (Tim Robichaux) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:41:43 -0400 Subject: Server Config Standards Message-ID: Is there anything out there (published) on how the servers are configured? Is it just up to whomever is configuring it at the time? The reason why I'm asking is that I'd like to set up a small test environment and I would like it to be compliant with any standards or recommendations for the Fedora Project. If there is a standard, should it be published to the Wiki? Tim From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Fri Oct 27 18:13:00 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 13:13:00 -0500 Subject: Server Config Standards In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3237e4410610271113t22598ba7nd19de577597dd86f@mail.gmail.com> On 10/27/06, Tim Robichaux wrote: > Is there anything out there (published) on how the servers are configured? Is it just up to whomever is configuring it at the time? The reason why I'm asking is that I'd like to set up a small test environment and I would like it to be compliant with any standards or recommendations for the Fedora Project. > > If there is a standard, should it be published to the Wiki? > > Tim > We've discussed some of these things in the past a couple of times. Right now there is a http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/InfrastructurePrivate section on the wiki that discusses some of these items. Is it security through obscurity? yes? Will that change in the future? Maybe, but that's the way it is right now. What type of Test environment were you interested in setting up? -Mike From dennis at ausil.us Fri Oct 27 18:35:34 2006 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 13:35:34 -0500 Subject: Builders In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610270702g7a6a97d3v3e35b95b1e21e7c4@mail.gmail.com> References: <200610270854.09553.dennis@ausil.us> <3237e4410610270702g7a6a97d3v3e35b95b1e21e7c4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610271335.35112.dennis@ausil.us> On Friday 27 October 2006 09:02, Mike McGrath wrote: > On 10/27/06, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > so what id like to do as far as the xen guest goes. and we should > > probably do this with all production xen guests. is create a snapshot of > > the lvm volume once the system is up and running and ready. so if the > > chroot explodes again we put the snapshot in place start the instance > > and things are back in a matter of minutes. we would have a > > pre-configured system ready to roll. > > > > thoughts? opinions? objections? > > I'm kind of in the boat that we should just use large files and skip > the partition all together, that way its an scp or a cp away from > having another guest. > > -Mike That works also. one issue we would face is storing the xen guest images. that will get big fast. But i do really like the idea. we could do something to help us manage bottlenecks also. bring up an app server image when needed and some quick configuration we have a new app server. or proxy or any of our other services. -- Dennis Gilmore, RHCE Proud Australian From tim at robichaux.net Fri Oct 27 18:44:15 2006 From: tim at robichaux.net (Tim Robichaux) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:44:15 -0400 Subject: Server Config Standards In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610271113t22598ba7nd19de577597dd86f@mail.gmail.com> References: , <3237e4410610271113t22598ba7nd19de577597dd86f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: What I want to do is get a couple of servers set up and start to examine the mirror and CVS setups. I have almost no experience with any kind of VCS and I know that this is a big priority for FC7. I'd love to try sticking my nose in a bunch of other aspects like clustering, load balancing and LDAP, but I need to start with a manageable chunk. It seems to me that all of the options that have been looked at for future VCS are missing features that seem like good ideas and I want to look and see if I can come up with any novel ideas. Even if I can't I can at least follow along with what everyone else is doing and not look _too_ lost. Tim ________________________________________ From: imlinux at gmail.com On Behalf Of Mike McGrath Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 2:13 PM To: Tim Robichaux Cc: Fedora Infrastructure Subject: Re: Server Config Standards On 10/27/06, Tim Robichaux wrote: > Is there anything out there (published) on how the servers are configured? Is it just up to whomever is configuring it at the time? The reason why I'm asking is that I'd like to set up a small test environment and I would like it to be compliant with any standards or recommendations for the Fedora Project. > > If there is a standard, should it be published to the Wiki? > > Tim > We've discussed some of these things in the past a couple of times. Right now there is a http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/InfrastructurePrivate section on the wiki that discusses some of these items. Is it security through obscurity? yes? Will that change in the future? Maybe, but that's the way it is right now. What type of Test environment were you interested in setting up? -Mike From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Fri Oct 27 18:47:13 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 13:47:13 -0500 Subject: Server Config Standards In-Reply-To: References: <3237e4410610271113t22598ba7nd19de577597dd86f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610271147t40f29972v762a1bc230374343@mail.gmail.com> On 10/27/06, Tim Robichaux wrote: > What I want to do is get a couple of servers set up and start to examine the mirror and CVS setups. I have almost no experience with any kind of VCS and I know that this is a big priority for FC7. I'd love to try sticking my nose in a bunch of other aspects like clustering, load balancing and LDAP, but I need to start with a manageable chunk. > > It seems to me that all of the options that have been looked at for future VCS are missing features that seem like good ideas and I want to look and see if I can come up with any novel ideas. Even if I can't I can at least follow along with what everyone else is doing and not look _too_ lost. > If you find any documentation on our CVS box let me know ;-) Right now your best bet is to examine the viewcvs to see how they're layed out. As far as our mirrors go they should be exact copies of our primary mirror. (if there not let us know) -Mike From linux at elfshadow.net Fri Oct 27 19:07:19 2006 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:07:19 -0400 Subject: Builders In-Reply-To: <200610271335.35112.dennis@ausil.us> References: <200610270854.09553.dennis@ausil.us> <3237e4410610270702g7a6a97d3v3e35b95b1e21e7c4@mail.gmail.com> <200610271335.35112.dennis@ausil.us> Message-ID: <454258E7.6090206@elfshadow.net> Dennis Gilmore wrote: > On Friday 27 October 2006 09:02, Mike McGrath wrote: >> I'm kind of in the boat that we should just use large files and skip >> the partition all together, that way its an scp or a cp away from >> having another guest. >> > That works also. one issue we would face is storing the xen guest images. > that will get big fast. But i do really like the idea. we could do > something to help us manage bottlenecks also. bring up an app server image > when needed and some quick configuration we have a new app server. or proxy > or any of our other services. One of the downsides of file based images is I/O performance, right? Won't that have an adverse effect on the builders versus LVM? I do like the idea of using more Xen Guests for some of the flexibility it could give us. Figuring out how to make it work well for our infrastructure is most likely worth the time. --Jeffrey From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Fri Oct 27 19:20:03 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:20:03 -0500 Subject: Builders In-Reply-To: <454258E7.6090206@elfshadow.net> References: <200610270854.09553.dennis@ausil.us> <3237e4410610270702g7a6a97d3v3e35b95b1e21e7c4@mail.gmail.com> <200610271335.35112.dennis@ausil.us> <454258E7.6090206@elfshadow.net> Message-ID: <3237e4410610271220w2f5318c7k290ad987ece669fe@mail.gmail.com> On 10/27/06, Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: > Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > On Friday 27 October 2006 09:02, Mike McGrath wrote: > >> I'm kind of in the boat that we should just use large files and skip > >> the partition all together, that way its an scp or a cp away from > >> having another guest. > >> > > That works also. one issue we would face is storing the xen guest images. > > that will get big fast. But i do really like the idea. we could do > > something to help us manage bottlenecks also. bring up an app server image > > when needed and some quick configuration we have a new app server. or proxy > > or any of our other services. > > One of the downsides of file based images is I/O performance, right? > Won't that have an adverse effect on the builders versus LVM? Yes, though I'd like to see some numbers as to what difference we're talking about. The flexability of using a file is very appealing. Especially since our boxes aren't really that overloaded. (well except fpserv ;-) -Mike From jkeating at redhat.com Fri Oct 27 19:42:31 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:42:31 -0400 Subject: Builders In-Reply-To: <454258E7.6090206@elfshadow.net> References: <200610270854.09553.dennis@ausil.us> <200610271335.35112.dennis@ausil.us> <454258E7.6090206@elfshadow.net> Message-ID: <200610271542.31566.jkeating@redhat.com> On Friday 27 October 2006 15:07, Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: > One of the downsides of file based images is I/O performance, right? > Won't that have an adverse effect on the builders versus LVM? Yes. I just talked w/ our Xen folks and they recommend using LVM, and doing lvm snapshots, back up the snapshot to an image file, so that in an emergency a guest could be brought up on another machine using the image file. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I just talked w/ our Xen folks and they recommend using LVM, and doing > lvm snapshots, back up the snapshot to an image file, so that in an emergency > a guest could be brought up on another machine using the image file. > Whats the actual performance hit though? I want numbers :D -Mike From ask at develooper.com Fri Oct 27 20:49:51 2006 From: ask at develooper.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ask_Bj=F8rn_Hansen?=) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 13:49:51 -0700 Subject: Builders In-Reply-To: <200610271542.31566.jkeating@redhat.com> References: <200610270854.09553.dennis@ausil.us> <200610271335.35112.dennis@ausil.us> <454258E7.6090206@elfshadow.net> <200610271542.31566.jkeating@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Oct 27, 2006, at 12:42, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Friday 27 October 2006 15:07, Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: >> One of the downsides of file based images is I/O performance, right? >> Won't that have an adverse effect on the builders versus LVM? > > Yes. I just talked w/ our Xen folks and they recommend using LVM, > and doing > lvm snapshots, back up the snapshot to an image file, so that in an > emergency > a guest could be brought up on another machine using the image file. A variation could be having the "system partition" in a relatively static small-ish image file and the build path on an LVM partition... - ask -- http://askask.com/ - http://develooper.com/ From rino.mardo at gmail.com Sat Oct 28 06:43:14 2006 From: rino.mardo at gmail.com (Rino Mardo) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:43:14 +0300 Subject: Server Config Standards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <008901c6fa5c$598bb0a0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> > > What I want to do is get a couple of servers set up and start > to examine the mirror and CVS setups. I have almost no > experience with any kind of VCS and I know that this is a big > priority for FC7. I'd love to try sticking my nose in a bunch > of other aspects like clustering, load balancing and LDAP, > but I need to start with a manageable chunk. > > It seems to me that all of the options that have been looked > at for future VCS are missing features that seem like good > ideas and I want to look and see if I can come up with any > novel ideas. Even if I can't I can at least follow along with > what everyone else is doing and not look _too_ lost. > > Tim I too am mostly lost (probably the same goest with the newcomers) with the discussion going in this list. Only recently that I managed to "crack" what fp.o means :-) Maybe that's why no one is volunteering (yet) because they're still trying to get over the initial shock? Somebody, or some docs ought to be up there after the "getting started" link. Some sort of a welcome kit. Contact the project leads? I did that already (on two occasions a couple of weeks back) and no one has replied. My 2cents. From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Sat Oct 28 14:00:19 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:00:19 -0500 Subject: Server Config Standards In-Reply-To: <008901c6fa5c$598bb0a0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> References: <008901c6fa5c$598bb0a0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> Message-ID: <3237e4410610280700x1839f24ald57de0f0ce5727a@mail.gmail.com> On 10/28/06, Rino Mardo wrote: > > I too am mostly lost (probably the same goest with the newcomers) with the > discussion going in this list. Only recently that I managed to "crack" what > fp.o means :-) > > Maybe that's why no one is volunteering (yet) because they're still trying > to get over the initial shock? > > Somebody, or some docs ought to be up there after the "getting started" > link. Some sort of a welcome kit. Contact the project leads? I did that > already (on two occasions a couple of weeks back) and no one has replied. > > My 2cents. Anything you think would help is welcome. The biggest thing is to just stick around and get involved. The best way to learn is to sign up with someone and get started :D -MIke From rino.mardo at gmail.com Sat Oct 28 14:10:51 2006 From: rino.mardo at gmail.com (Rino Mardo) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 17:10:51 +0300 Subject: Server Config Standards In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610280700x1839f24ald57de0f0ce5727a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001c6fa9a$e2bc80f0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> > Anything you think would help is welcome. The biggest thing > is to just stick around and get involved. The best way to > learn is to sign up with someone and get started :D > > -MIke I'm sticking, I'm sticking. :-) Ok, let's make it clear. I'm signing up to maintain Duke fp.o (or what name it's called) as previously discussed. Also, as I learn I wanna put up a "After signing here's what you should do next..." link from the fp.o/infra site. Please lock that for me. -- rmm From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Sat Oct 28 15:48:04 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 10:48:04 -0500 Subject: Server Config Standards In-Reply-To: <000001c6fa9a$e2bc80f0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> References: <3237e4410610280700x1839f24ald57de0f0ce5727a@mail.gmail.com> <000001c6fa9a$e2bc80f0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> Message-ID: <3237e4410610280848p50a1c4c7r6da81b62e42310b3@mail.gmail.com> On 10/28/06, Rino Mardo wrote: > > > Anything you think would help is welcome. The biggest thing > > is to just stick around and get involved. The best way to > > learn is to sign up with someone and get started :D > > > > -MIke > > I'm sticking, I'm sticking. :-) > > Ok, let's make it clear. I'm signing up to maintain Duke fp.o (or what name > it's called) as previously discussed. Also, as I learn I wanna put up a > "After signing here's what you should do next..." link from the fp.o/infra > site. Please lock that for me. > Thats where the infrastructure team gets tricky. At present there's no need for extra people on the fp.o site. And, unfortunately, we can't just hand over the keys to whoever asks for them for obvious reasons. Was there something on the schedules page or any one of the many tickets in otrs or bugzillla you were interested in working on? I still haven't had anyone volunteer for the mirrors project. -Mike From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Sat Oct 28 16:08:49 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 11:08:49 -0500 Subject: Server Config Standards In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610280848p50a1c4c7r6da81b62e42310b3@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610280700x1839f24ald57de0f0ce5727a@mail.gmail.com> <000001c6fa9a$e2bc80f0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> <3237e4410610280848p50a1c4c7r6da81b62e42310b3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610280908q4d48c02ere122a1469733a527@mail.gmail.com> On 10/28/06, Mike McGrath wrote: > On 10/28/06, Rino Mardo wrote: > > > > > Anything you think would help is welcome. The biggest thing > > > is to just stick around and get involved. The best way to > > > learn is to sign up with someone and get started :D > > > > > > -MIke > > > > I'm sticking, I'm sticking. :-) > > > > Ok, let's make it clear. I'm signing up to maintain Duke fp.o (or what name > > it's called) as previously discussed. Also, as I learn I wanna put up a > > "After signing here's what you should do next..." link from the fp.o/infra > > site. Please lock that for me. > > > > > Thats where the infrastructure team gets tricky. At present there's > no need for extra people on the fp.o site. And, unfortunately, we > can't just hand over the keys to whoever asks for them for obvious > reasons. Was there something on the schedules page or any one of the > many tickets in otrs or bugzillla you were interested in working on? > I still haven't had anyone volunteer for the mirrors project. > I've added the relevant OTRS and Bugzilla links to the getting started page on the wiki. -Mike From ask at develooper.com Sat Oct 28 17:03:46 2006 From: ask at develooper.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ask_Bj=F8rn_Hansen?=) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 10:03:46 -0700 Subject: Server Config Standards In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610280848p50a1c4c7r6da81b62e42310b3@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610280700x1839f24ald57de0f0ce5727a@mail.gmail.com> <000001c6fa9a$e2bc80f0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> <3237e4410610280848p50a1c4c7r6da81b62e42310b3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Oct 28, 2006, at 8:48, Mike McGrath wrote: > I still haven't had anyone volunteer for the mirrors project. I'd help except for the python requirement. :-) - ask -- http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Sat Oct 28 17:19:19 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 12:19:19 -0500 Subject: Server Config Standards In-Reply-To: References: <3237e4410610280700x1839f24ald57de0f0ce5727a@mail.gmail.com> <000001c6fa9a$e2bc80f0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> <3237e4410610280848p50a1c4c7r6da81b62e42310b3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610281019o322746bdl5f21916099af9026@mail.gmail.com> On 10/28/06, Ask Bj?rn Hansen wrote: > > On Oct 28, 2006, at 8:48, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > I still haven't had anyone volunteer for the mirrors project. > > I'd help except for the python requirement. :-) > > > - ask > You can always help test once its ready ;-) -Mike From rino.mardo at gmail.com Sun Oct 29 05:33:17 2006 From: rino.mardo at gmail.com (Rino Mardo) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 08:33:17 +0300 Subject: Server Config Standards In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610281019o322746bdl5f21916099af9026@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000701c6fb1b$c2b505d0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> > > On Oct 28, 2006, at 8:48, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > > > I still haven't had anyone volunteer for the mirrors project. > > > > I'd help except for the python requirement. :-) > > > > > > - ask > > > You can always help test once its ready ;-) > > -Mike > What about the mirror project? I'm all ears and hands on helping the project. I've got time. How does one maintain it? There's a local university here who have the fp.o directories but it's empty. From tla-ml at rasmil.dk Sun Oct 29 08:50:13 2006 From: tla-ml at rasmil.dk (Tim Lauridsen) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 09:50:13 +0100 Subject: Error in Fedora Mirrorlist for core-source repo. Message-ID: <45446B45.4080600@rasmil.dk> Hi. Sorry for cross posting. I just got this bugzilla report for yumex: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=212709 it looks like the is a problem with the Urls returned by the mirrorlist CGI script for the core source repo. http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=core-source-6&arch=i386 returns http://redhat.download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/core/6/SRPMS/ it should be. http://redhat.download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/core/6/source/SRPMS/ That component should should i report the bug against ?. Regards, Tim From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Sun Oct 29 14:16:33 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 09:16:33 -0500 Subject: Error in Fedora Mirrorlist for core-source repo. In-Reply-To: <45446B45.4080600@rasmil.dk> References: <45446B45.4080600@rasmil.dk> Message-ID: <3237e4410610290616s658d45ffvf7a4f50980b3844a@mail.gmail.com> On 10/29/06, Tim Lauridsen wrote: > Hi. > > Sorry for cross posting. > > I just got this bugzilla report for yumex: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=212709 > > it looks like the is a problem with the Urls returned by the > mirrorlist CGI script for the core source repo. > > http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=core-source-6&arch=i386 > > returns > > http://redhat.download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/core/6/SRPMS/ > > it should be. > > http://redhat.download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/core/6/source/SRPMS/ > > That component should should i report the bug against ?. > > Regards, > Tim > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/tickets/ would have been the approperate place for this :) Its fixed now and should return the other mirrors as well as the primary mirror soon. -Mike From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Sun Oct 29 14:20:32 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 09:20:32 -0500 Subject: Server Config Standards In-Reply-To: <000701c6fb1b$c2b505d0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> References: <3237e4410610281019o322746bdl5f21916099af9026@mail.gmail.com> <000701c6fb1b$c2b505d0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> Message-ID: <3237e4410610290620r6e2788e6uac76509f655bfb4d@mail.gmail.com> On 10/29/06, Rino Mardo wrote: > > What about the mirror project? I'm all ears and hands on helping the > project. I've got time. How does one maintain it? There's a local university > here who have the fp.o directories but it's empty. (From an earlier post) now that the return-mirrors script reads from a database this should get easier and easier. We'll need an experienced python programmer to work on what we have. I'll maintain the current branch but we need an overall solution for this. Who out there can help? We need: 1) A way for people to add their own mirrors and maintain them 2) a web interface to add/delete mirrors from the current system 3) a more efficient way of checking the mirrors 4) possible move the configs into the database itself? Anyone out there that's interested, respond to the list and add yourself to the infrastructure schedule. -MIke From farshadkh at gmail.com Sun Oct 29 18:59:34 2006 From: farshadkh at gmail.com (Farshad Khoshkhui) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 22:29:34 +0330 Subject: Server Config Standards In-Reply-To: <3237e4410610290620r6e2788e6uac76509f655bfb4d@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610281019o322746bdl5f21916099af9026@mail.gmail.com> <000701c6fb1b$c2b505d0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> <3237e4410610290620r6e2788e6uac76509f655bfb4d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5c0fad5d0610291059p3df8bbd3wa2651ac8f961e72a@mail.gmail.com> > (From an earlier post) > now that the return-mirrors script reads from a database this should > get easier and easier. We'll need an experienced python programmer to > work on what we have. I'll maintain the current branch but we need an > overall solution for this. Who out there can help? We need: > > 1) A way for people to add their own mirrors and maintain them > 2) a web interface to add/delete mirrors from the current system > 3) a more efficient way of checking the mirrors > 4) possible move the configs into the database itself? > > Anyone out there that's interested, respond to the list and add > yourself to the infrastructure schedule. > > -MIke I'm interested. Is there a way I can see how "current system" works? -- Farshad Khoshkhui From lmacken at redhat.com Sun Oct 29 19:03:38 2006 From: lmacken at redhat.com (Luke Macken) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 14:03:38 -0500 Subject: accounts system bug? Message-ID: <20061029190338.GE8656@tomservo.rh.rit.edu> I'm seeing these errors multiple times a day in epylog. Can someone with some accounts-system-fu take a look? Oct 28 12:33:53 db1 postgres[11033]: [2-1] ERROR: relation "valid" does not exist Oct 28 12:33:53 db1 postgres[11033]: [2-2] STATEMENT: SELECT id FROM valid WHERE name = 'valid' Oct 28 12:33:53 db1 postgres[11033]: [3-1] ERROR: syntax error at or near ")" at character 179 Oct 28 12:33:53 db1 postgres[11033]: [3-2] STATEMENT: SELECT username , username,human_name, email FROM person WHERE Oct 28 12:33:53 db1 postgres[11033]: [3-3] LOWER(mail) LIKE LOWER('mjergg at arkansas-realestate.com') AND id in ( ) LIMIT 250 thanks, luke From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Sun Oct 29 19:17:44 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 13:17:44 -0600 Subject: Server Config Standards In-Reply-To: <5c0fad5d0610291059p3df8bbd3wa2651ac8f961e72a@mail.gmail.com> References: <3237e4410610281019o322746bdl5f21916099af9026@mail.gmail.com> <000701c6fb1b$c2b505d0$240110ac@ALJOMAIHBEV.COM> <3237e4410610290620r6e2788e6uac76509f655bfb4d@mail.gmail.com> <5c0fad5d0610291059p3df8bbd3wa2651ac8f961e72a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3237e4410610291117s3777d8d9m4ef1954b9f79f3b6@mail.gmail.com> On 10/29/06, Farshad Khoshkhui wrote: > > (From an earlier post) > > now that the return-mirrors script reads from a database this should > > get easier and easier. We'll need an experienced python programmer to > > work on what we have. I'll maintain the current branch but we need an > > overall solution for this. Who out there can help? We need: > > > > 1) A way for people to add their own mirrors and maintain them > > 2) a web interface to add/delete mirrors from the current system > > 3) a more efficient way of checking the mirrors > > 4) possible move the configs into the database itself? > > > > Anyone out there that's interested, respond to the list and add > > yourself to the infrastructure schedule. > > > > -MIke > I'm interested. Is there a way I can see how "current system" works? > > -- > Farshad Khoshkhui > http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/check-mirrors/?root=fedora -Mike From dennis at ausil.us Mon Oct 30 03:01:43 2006 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:01:43 -0600 Subject: PHX network Message-ID: <200610292101.43868.dennis@ausil.us> Hey All, With the move to to a more xen based infrastructure. its a good time to evaluate our ip allocation we have a /24 for our use. id like to propose that we allocate the ips as follows 1-35 for Network appliances/devices nas, san, switches, kvms, etc. 36 - 169 for services i.e. xen guests and physical hosts when needed for example ppc builders 164-169 for existing boxes admin interfaces these would most likely be needed for a short term period 170-199 for admin interfaces drac, ALOM, etc 200 is a nat pool ip id like to have it moved to 250 201 - 219 for test systems 220-249 ?for physical xen hosts 250-254 for gateways to external networks What do you all think? -- Dennis Gilmore, RHCE Proud Australian From Christian.Iseli at licr.org Mon Oct 30 08:54:50 2006 From: Christian.Iseli at licr.org (Christian Iseli) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:54:50 +0100 Subject: PHX network In-Reply-To: <200610292101.43868.dennis@ausil.us> References: <200610292101.43868.dennis@ausil.us> Message-ID: <20061030095450.6c15bc61@ludwig-alpha.unil.ch> On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:01:43 -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > 1-35 for Network appliances/devices nas, san, switches, kvms, etc. > 36 - 169 for services i.e. xen guests and physical hosts when needed for > example ppc builders > 164-169 for existing boxes admin interfaces these would most likely be > needed for a short term period > 170-199 for admin interfaces drac, ALOM, etc > 200 is a nat pool ip id like to have it moved to 250 > 201 - 219 for test systems > 220-249 ?for physical xen hosts > 250-254 for gateways to external networks Wouldn't it be more secure to have the interfaces you put in 1-35 and 170-199 in a separate, unrouted network (10.x.x.x) that can only be accessed from a couple admin machines having dual ethernet ports ? That would also leave more room in the /24 net... It's a bit more trouble to manage two networks, but not that much. C From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Mon Oct 30 13:32:59 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:32:59 -0600 Subject: PHX network In-Reply-To: <20061030095450.6c15bc61@ludwig-alpha.unil.ch> References: <200610292101.43868.dennis@ausil.us> <20061030095450.6c15bc61@ludwig-alpha.unil.ch> Message-ID: <3237e4410610300532k539be560na900662b729728c9@mail.gmail.com> On 10/30/06, Christian Iseli wrote: > On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:01:43 -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > 1-35 for Network appliances/devices nas, san, switches, kvms, etc. > > 36 - 169 for services i.e. xen guests and physical hosts when needed for > > example ppc builders > > 164-169 for existing boxes admin interfaces these would most likely be > > needed for a short term period > > 170-199 for admin interfaces drac, ALOM, etc > > 200 is a nat pool ip id like to have it moved to 250 > > 201 - 219 for test systems > > 220-249 for physical xen hosts > > 250-254 for gateways to external networks > > Wouldn't it be more secure to have the interfaces you put in 1-35 and > 170-199 in a separate, unrouted network (10.x.x.x) that can only be > accessed from a couple admin machines having dual ethernet ports ? > > That would also leave more room in the /24 net... > > It's a bit more trouble to manage two networks, but not that much. > I think that was part of the idea that we could do this later on if we wanted. For now I don't think we need such an architectural change. -MIke From farshadkh at gmail.com Mon Oct 30 16:19:33 2006 From: farshadkh at gmail.com (Farshad Khoshkhui) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:49:33 +0330 Subject: accounts system bug? In-Reply-To: <20061029190338.GE8656@tomservo.rh.rit.edu> References: <20061029190338.GE8656@tomservo.rh.rit.edu> Message-ID: <5c0fad5d0610300819x48824808wdbc2c56ef5d2634f@mail.gmail.com> On 10/29/06, Luke Macken wrote: > I'm seeing these errors multiple times a day in epylog. Can someone > with some accounts-system-fu take a look? > > Oct 28 12:33:53 db1 postgres[11033]: [2-1] ERROR: relation "valid" does not exist > Oct 28 12:33:53 db1 postgres[11033]: [2-2] STATEMENT: SELECT id FROM valid WHERE name = 'valid' > Oct 28 12:33:53 db1 postgres[11033]: [3-1] ERROR: syntax error at or near ")" at character 179 > Oct 28 12:33:53 db1 postgres[11033]: [3-2] STATEMENT: SELECT username , username,human_name, email FROM person WHERE > Oct 28 12:33:53 db1 postgres[11033]: [3-3] LOWER(mail) LIKE LOWER('mjergg at arkansas-realestate.com') AND id in ( ) LIMIT 250 I tried to check, but it seems the code generating these queries isn't in fedora-accounts cvs. Might be some restricted codes, nah? From wtogami at redhat.com Tue Oct 31 01:43:06 2006 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 20:43:06 -0500 Subject: Proposal: publictest[1-9] addresses Message-ID: <4546AA2A.2030001@redhat.com> Last week we discussed the need to open ports like 22 and 80 for the mercurial test currently hosted on test1 to proceed with public testing. I did not want to request this firewall change because it would make it inconsistent, difficult to track, and a thus long-term security risk. This is because we do NOT want public facing ssh except in known defined ways. Proposal ======== test[1-9] remain internal-only test addresses. We assign new addresses for services ready for public facing testing. publictest[1-9].fedora.phx.redhat.com (internal) publictest[1-9].fedora.redhat.com (external) Port Forwards: 22 80 443 8887 (potential test plague master) 8888 (potential plague builder) 8889 (potential plague builder) As a matter of security policy, Infrastructure team must approve any and all uses of publictest[1-9] addresses, especially if they require public facing ssh. Public facing ssh is necessary for mercurial and other VCS testing. Thoughts? Should we go ahead? Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From a.badger at gmail.com Tue Oct 31 21:48:48 2006 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:48:48 -0800 Subject: accounts system bug? In-Reply-To: <5c0fad5d0610300819x48824808wdbc2c56ef5d2634f@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061029190338.GE8656@tomservo.rh.rit.edu> <5c0fad5d0610300819x48824808wdbc2c56ef5d2634f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1162331328.2930.14.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2006-10-30 at 19:49 +0330, Farshad Khoshkhui wrote: > On 10/29/06, Luke Macken wrote: > > I'm seeing these errors multiple times a day in epylog. Can someone > > with some accounts-system-fu take a look? > > > > Oct 28 12:33:53 db1 postgres[11033]: [2-1] ERROR: relation "valid" does not exist > > Oct 28 12:33:53 db1 postgres[11033]: [2-2] STATEMENT: SELECT id FROM valid WHERE name = 'valid' > > Oct 28 12:33:53 db1 postgres[11033]: [3-1] ERROR: syntax error at or near ")" at character 179 > > Oct 28 12:33:53 db1 postgres[11033]: [3-2] STATEMENT: SELECT username , username,human_name, email FROM person WHERE > > Oct 28 12:33:53 db1 postgres[11033]: [3-3] LOWER(mail) LIKE LOWER('mjergg at arkansas-realestate.com') AND id in ( ) LIMIT 250 > > > I tried to check, but it seems the code generating these queries isn't > in fedora-accounts cvs. Might be some restricted codes, nah? A brief grep doesn't show these calls in the code on our custom web apps deployed on admin.fedoraproject.org. Where else are we calling the account system? -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org Tue Oct 31 21:50:28 2006 From: mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:50:28 -0600 Subject: accounts system bug? In-Reply-To: <1162331328.2930.14.camel@localhost> References: <20061029190338.GE8656@tomservo.rh.rit.edu> <5c0fad5d0610300819x48824808wdbc2c56ef5d2634f@mail.gmail.com> <1162331328.2930.14.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <3237e4410610311350w268cfda3la38e864369b3a7a8@mail.gmail.com> On 10/31/06, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Mon, 2006-10-30 at 19:49 +0330, Farshad Khoshkhui wrote: > > On 10/29/06, Luke Macken wrote: > > > I'm seeing these errors multiple times a day in epylog. Can someone > > > with some accounts-system-fu take a look? > > > > > > Oct 28 12:33:53 db1 postgres[11033]: [2-1] ERROR: relation "valid" does not exist > > > Oct 28 12:33:53 db1 postgres[11033]: [2-2] STATEMENT: SELECT id FROM valid WHERE name = 'valid' > > > Oct 28 12:33:53 db1 postgres[11033]: [3-1] ERROR: syntax error at or near ")" at character 179 > > > Oct 28 12:33:53 db1 postgres[11033]: [3-2] STATEMENT: SELECT username , username,human_name, email FROM person WHERE > > > Oct 28 12:33:53 db1 postgres[11033]: [3-3] LOWER(mail) LIKE LOWER('mjergg at arkansas-realestate.com') AND id in ( ) LIMIT 250 > > > > > > I tried to check, but it seems the code generating these queries isn't > > in fedora-accounts cvs. Might be some restricted codes, nah? > > A brief grep doesn't show these calls in the code on our custom web apps > deployed on admin.fedoraproject.org. Where else are we calling the > account system? > > -Toshio > > OTRS comes to mind, it does searches and things when a new ticket comes in via email to try to figure out who sent it. -Mike