[Fedora-infrastructure-list] Re: Infrastructure Officers and team goals

[Mike McGrath]

On 10/6/06, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> On 10/6/06, Michael Schwendt <bugs.michael at gmx.net> wrote:
> > On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:04:25 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 2006-10-06 at 06:22 -0400, Sam Folk-Williams wrote:
> > >
> > > > To be consistent with other groups (Docs/Ambassadors, etc) you may want
> > > > to have people vote for these positions rather than appointing them.
> > > >
> > > Not sure about voting.  Ambassadors and FESCo have only started to vote
> > > on their positions this past year after having a while to create a sense
> > > of what roles the elected body is supposed to perform.  These positions
> > > are also different than FESCo and Ambassadors in that it isn't an
> > > election of a body of people -- it's an election to individual
> > > positions.  This is the difference between elections for the city
> > > council and elections for sheriff, treasurer, and mayor.  For these
> > > specialized positions you want someone who is familiar with the issues
> > > that will be facing them in that job as they will be the go-to person
> > > when problems crop up in those areas.
> > >
> > > Which isn't to say that voters couldn't do a good job of picking people
> > > with the right skills and knowledge here either.  But I think we lack
> > > one other criteria for good elections: voters.  Currently we only have
> > > 31 people listed in the sysadmin groups so it's somewhat silly to hold
> > > elections for seven positions at this point.  I think a simple
> > > confirmation/discussion will better serve us at this time.
> >
> > Prior to filling positions with people and titles, it would be better to
> > define the obligations, responsibilities, and the work-flow for each of
> > these positions.
> >
> > Like "What exactly does the Build System/Package Manager [X] do? How does he
> > differ from other contributors within the Infrastructure Group? What
> > do you--i.e. a contributor or person within the Infrastructure Group--need
> > him for instead of the list?"   [X] insert other position titles here
> >
> > Especially for people outside the Infrastructure Group or even outside the
> > Fedora Project, such information about the structure of parts of the
> > project is important.
> >
>
> In this instance I was hoping the people involved would help design
> the guidelines for their own roles, for approval of course.
>

Sorry, I should preface this with:

I know this is a bit unorthodox but given who's involved and that we
need to get more people in I felt speed was important.  I certainly
don't suspect that this will be the permanent way officers come and
go.  But these are all guys that are regularly at the meetings and
know the environment pretty well.

This is not at all in stone and I'd encourage anyone that has a
problem or a better idea to bring it up on the list or come to the
next meeting.  I just want to have the guys in place so we can bring
in some new guys en mass (an announcement will go out soon) and have
the right people get sponsored by the right sponsors.

           -Mike