Fedora Infrastructure IRC Meeting Log from 2007-06-21

Jeffrey C. Ollie jeff at ocjtech.us
Thu Jun 21 21:04:01 UTC 2007

[15:01] mmcgrath has set the subject to Fedora Infrastructure -- Who's here?
[15:01] mmcgrath: Alrighty everyone.  Who's here?
[15:01] * abadger1999 is here
[15:01] * skvidal is here
[15:01] * xDamox is here
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[15:02] mmcgrath: dgilmore: f13: ping?
[15:02] * G is reattached
[15:02] mmcgrath: Allrighty, lets get started.
[15:02] jcollie: here!
[15:02] mmcgrath has set the subject to Package Database -- abadger1999
[15:02] * riczho listens again.
[15:02] mmcgrath: jcollie: yo
[15:02] f13: here
[15:02] f13: battling rawhide still
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[15:03] abadger1999: We're close
[15:03] abadger1999: I have the importer almost done.
[15:03] abadger1999: Had a late feature request from jeremy that I'm working on now.
[15:03] * rordway is here for once
[15:03] abadger1999: bz-sync is ~ half done.
[15:03] jcollie: i think that we should all pitch in to buy f13 some authentic leather chaps for when he's dealing with rawhide
[15:03] * jeremy is nothing but a trouble maker
[15:03] mmcgrath: abadger1999: if you get sucked into feature creep, don't forget you can say no 
[15:03] abadger1999: warren hasn't had a chance to work on the koji sync so I may have to pick that up.
[15:04] mmcgrath: well for now anyway 
[15:04] mmcgrath: abadger1999: so all in all you think we're in good shape?
[15:04] f13: wow.
[15:04] abadger1999: And I need to work out exactly what scripts need to be ported for new packages and package branches.
[15:04] abadger1999: That should be it.
[15:04] mmcgrath: when do you suspect we'll be able to promote it?
[15:04] f13: jcollie: between you and jwb I'm wearing pasties and leather chaps.
[15:04] f13: I'm deeply frightened.
[15:05] * rordway hides his eyes
[15:05] jwb: gah, scary
[15:05] abadger1999: I'm hoping we can deploy it for cvsadmins to use next week.
[15:05] * skvidal hides his brain
[15:05] abadger1999: And then let the public start self-serving afte rthat.
[15:05] mmcgrath: excellent.
[15:05] mmcgrath: abadger1999: did we get the python-fedora timeout issue figured out?
[15:05] abadger1999: Nope.  I'm still looking for it.
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[15:06] mmcgrath: k
[15:06] mmcgrath: abadger1999: anything else then?
[15:06] abadger1999: I know that it's something involved with deep TurboGears stuff.
[15:06] abadger1999: But beyond that 
[15:06] abadger1999: (Session cookie is being lost or something.)
[15:06] mmcgrath: <nod>
[15:06] abadger1999: That's it.
[15:06] mmcgrath: cool
[15:07] mmcgrath has set the subject to config management -- mmcgrath
[15:07] mmcgrath: So puppet (i think) and RHN have started to conflict.
[15:07] mmcgrath: I'm looking into it more.
[15:07] skvidal: mmcgrath: put in some 'sleep 10'
[15:07] mmcgrath: basically we're getting this - http://pastebin.ca/581690
[15:07] mmcgrath: Which I think is a 24 hour period average.
[15:08] mmcgrath: something to keep an eye on though.
[15:08] mmcgrath has set the subject to VCS choice -- abadger1999/jcollie
[15:09] mmcgrath: So the conversation on what Infrastructure should use for its SCM kind of went crazy.  Does anyone have any opinions that have not been discussed on the list?
[15:09] jcollie: i think we defiitely need to go to a dscm... which one is up for debate
[15:09] f13: lets do like puppet
[15:09] abadger1999: What about the consolidate small projects into one hosted project idea?
[15:09] f13: pick git, run with it.  People will deal.
[15:09] skvidal: f13: break rhn?
[15:10] mmcgrath: abadger1999: thats not a bad idea really.  I'd worry about Infrastructure having two homes though.
[15:10] abadger1999: Hmm.. That's true.
[15:10] mmcgrath: having said that, I'd be up for examining using trac's bug system as a replacement for OTRS.
[15:10] * mmcgrath notes that we really haven't picked up and used OTRS.
[15:10] f13: Trac does have the concept of a 'task' vs a bug
[15:11] f13: well really, it has the concept of whatever kind of ticket we want to teach it
[15:11] * dgilmore is here
[15:11] jcollie: can trac create new tickets based upon an email?
[15:11] * riczho doesn't particularly enjoy OTRS either.
[15:11] mmcgrath: f13: the defaults look like "defect" "enhancement" "task"
[15:12] mmcgrath: riczho: I think its just a bit of an overkill for what we need.
[15:12] f13: jcollie: not sure.  Maybe, may require some more advanced setup on the track host
[15:12] f13: mmcgrath: yeah, the webadmin tab lets you create/remove ticket types at will.
[15:12] mmcgrath: excellent, well lets discuss this then
[15:12] jcollie: what about using bugzilla.redhat.com? i know it's the bugtracker we all love to hate but it'll keep things simpler
[15:12] f13: or completely remove the ability to have tickets in that particular Trac instance
[15:12] G: can't we just use a dumbed down version of Mantis, or a new Bugzilla 'Project'?
[15:13] mmcgrath has set the subject to OTRS and a Trac home -- All
[15:13] * mdomsch never saw the point of OTRS
[15:13] skvidal: G: you shall not mention mantis again
[15:13] skvidal: die mantis, die
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[15:13] dgilmore: we use RT here
[15:13] mmcgrath: mdomsch: well everyone hated bugzilla so it seemed like a good idea at the time 
[15:13] dgilmore: it seems ok
[15:13] skvidal: mmcgrath: yes and now we hate bugzilla and otrs
[15:13] G: skvidal: I actually agree, but it was the first that came to mind
[15:14] f13: RT is great, until somebody cc's it, and reply-all starts spewing all kinds of duplicate tickets
[15:14] mmcgrath: skvidal: the big difference is we don't ignore bugzilla   well, not as bad anyway.
[15:14] f13: oh and depite what it says, any change to a closed ticket re-opens the ticket, even if you explicitly mark it as stay closed.
[15:14] * mmcgrath considers RT and OTRS to be identical in respect to our needs.
[15:14] skvidal: I'm going to suggest something
[15:14] skvidal: and I want everyone to remain calm
[15:14] dgilmore: lah lah lah
[15:14] G: One of the requirements is that the bugsystem can handle reports via email right?
[15:15] skvidal: what if we just have a mailing list
[15:15] skvidal: and if the task takes more than 10 minutes
[15:15] skvidal: WE file it
[15:15] skvidal: it's not like we're being inundated with requests
[15:15] dgilmore: skvidal: sure but not everything in ORTS is handled by us
[15:15] skvidal: at least, I don't seem to see thousands of them
[15:15] skvidal: dgilmore: yes, that's why we file it for others
[15:15] mmcgrath: skvidal: I'd still like to know who's working on what and such.
[15:16] skvidal: mmcgrath: sure, if it is quick you email saying 'got it'
[15:16] f13: I don't either.  I'm not a huge fan of using a mailing list as a task tracking system, but...
[15:16] mmcgrath: I think we need something, but far more light weight then OTRS.
[15:16] skvidal: and you do it
[15:16] skvidal: like I said - mailing list just lets us know about the problem
[15:16] skvidal: and if the problem really requires a ticket then file it
[15:16] f13: we'd have to allow posting by non-members
[15:16] skvidal: in bugzilla or trac or whatever
[15:16] f13: and then deal with the spam
[15:16] skvidal: f13: as opposed to now?
[15:16] f13: wereas anybody with a fedora account can create a ticket in Trac
[15:17] skvidal: f13: which is vastly superior to get otrs spam
[15:17] f13: skvidal: well yeah, now sucks big time.
[15:17] skvidal: f13: right
[15:17] riczho: We get a ton of spam in OTRS now already.
[15:17] mmcgrath: riczho: actually we don't, it used to be between 10 and 20 a day.
[15:17] G: doesn't KDE have a patch to bugzilla which allows it to accept bug reports filed by email?
[15:17] f13: Trac would kill the spam, but lose the email handynes
[15:17] mmcgrath: the sytem we have in place now isn't great but its better than it could be 
[15:17] riczho: mmcgrath: Woah, never mind, then.
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[15:18] mmcgrath: we should take this to the list and see what they say.
[15:18] * G thinks RH IS wouldn't be very happy though 
[15:18] mmcgrath: skvidal: are you saying a separate list?
[15:18] abadger1999: I don't mind losing the email-to-open-ticket ability.
[15:18] skvidal: mmcgrath: yes
[15:18] skvidal: mmcgrath: shit-is-broken at fedoraproject.org
[15:18] skvidal: (kidding, of course)
[15:18] mmcgrath: skvidal: here's my question, where do I go to find what hasn't been done?
[15:18] skvidal: I was thinking one of two things
[15:18] mmcgrath: like, I wake up, I've got 2 hours to kill, where do I go to find a list of stuff I need to do?
[15:19] mmcgrath: err a list of stuff that needs to be done.
[15:19] skvidal: your inbox?
[15:19] dgilmore: mmcgrath: id say we bug the shit out of legal about smtp and move forward with ORTS and spamassain sqlgrey clamav
[15:19] skvidal: or if there are outstanding things you go to bugzilla/trac/etc to find what things are filed and not done
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[15:20] skvidal: mmcgrath: rather than what you do now, which is, I presume chase it down in otrs' ever-so-obvious interface
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[15:20] notting: we have an irc channel where peopel can leave issues, with a bot doing mail gating...
[15:20] mmcgrath: we should compare a mailing list to trac, not otrs.
[15:20] mmcgrath: skvidal: You have to admit, this is pretty simple - https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/smolt/report/1
[15:20] G: notting: heh, not bad idea!
[15:21] skvidal: mmcgrath: excluding all the unncessary crap like 'component1'
[15:21] G: notting: of course, relying on another 3rd party isn't a very good situation
[15:21] mmcgrath: skvidal: I'm just saying email gets very easy to ignore.
[15:21] f13: yeah, why do you still have 'component1' in there?
[15:21] mmcgrath: f13: I never set it up.
[15:21] f13: Admin tab and edit up your components (:
[15:21] mmcgrath: 
[15:22] f13: it's nice that we can set milestones for things like new OS rollouts and assign people tasks
[15:22] f13: and as things get done the Timeline will show it
[15:22] mmcgrath: Ok, so I think this should be talked about again, skvidal mind sending something to the list so we can discuss it further?
[15:23] skvidal: mmcgrath: I can - but I'm not wed to this idea
[15:23] skvidal: if everyone is happy with trac, I'm on board
[15:23] mmcgrath: skvidal: its good to think it over again since we're talking about changing, no need to end up with another OTRS 
[15:23] mmcgrath: ok, for now we'll move on.
[15:23] skvidal: mmcgrath: okay- email on its way soon
[15:24] mmcgrath has set the subject to Firewall System Rewrite -- skvidal lmacken xDamox
[15:24] mmcgrath: So AFAIK this has gone very well.
[15:24] mmcgrath: few very minor bumps while implementing but a lot of our hosts are actually using the firewalls now.
[15:24] mmcgrath: xDamox: what do you think?
[15:24] xDamox: I am just monitoring the bulder ports and the torrent server to suggest the rules
[15:24] xDamox: I am going to get the ports run by skvidal and lmacken
[15:24] mmcgrath: xDamox: FYI the torrent box is also our primary DNS.
[15:25] xDamox: I did a test last night but it became void due to security scans
[15:25] xDamox: ok
[15:25] mmcgrath: cool.
[15:25] dgilmore: xDamox: i can give you the ports the builders use
[15:25] mmcgrath: skvidal: lmacken: anything to add?
[15:25] xDamox: within the next 24 hours we should have them fully deployed
[15:25] skvidal: mmcgrath: other than 'yay' xDamox?
[15:25] xDamox: dgilmore, yea that would be good
[15:25] mmcgrath: 
[15:26] skvidal: torrent is tricky b/c of the seeder
[15:26] skvidal: but I think I have the rule set I used before
[15:26] xDamox: ok
[15:26] mmcgrath: xDamox: If we find our template is too simple for the torrent box let me know, I can add a "custom" section to the bottom.
[15:27] xDamox: Ok mmcgrath
[15:27] mmcgrath: alllrighty, next item
[15:27] mmcgrath has set the subject to Upgrade DB1 -- mmcgrath
[15:27] xDamox: skvidal, if I email you so, can you supply the iptable for the torrent box?
[15:27] skvidal: yah
[15:27] xDamox: s/so/soon/
[15:27] mmcgrath: so db2 is up and so far has been working great.
[15:27] xDamox: cheers
[15:27] mmcgrath: abadger1999: have you had a chance to check out test2?
[15:27] mmcgrath: mbonnet: ping
[15:27] mbonnet: mmcgrath: yo
[15:28] mmcgrath: mbonnet: any chance to take a look at db2?
[15:28] abadger1999: Not yet.  it's whatI'm working on now.
[15:28] mbonnet: mmcgrath: crap, not yet
[15:29] mmcgrath: mbonnet: want me to just keep bugging you till you get a moment?
[15:29] * mmcgrath is good at bugging 
[15:29] mbonnet: mmcgrath: sure, please do
[15:29] mmcgrath: will do.
[15:29] mbonnet: I'll find a few spare moments at some point
[15:29] mmcgrath: abadger1999: if you need anything with test2 let me know.
[15:29] abadger1999: Will do.
[15:29] mmcgrath has set the subject to Server Upgrades -- mmcgrath
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[15:29] mmcgrath: So I've put in some requests to the soc.
[15:30] mmcgrath: Just to remind everyone.  Priority 1) Some of our servers don't have a proper warranty right now.... fix that.
[15:30] mmcgrath: priority 2) Figure out how to backup koji (probably tape)
[15:30] mmcgrath: 3) Server upgrades and replacements.  (includes adding RAM to the boxes we have, and replacing some of our older stuff)
[15:31] mmcgrath: In with this somewhere is a new disk tray thats been installed, we're just waiting for the soc to configure it and hand it over to us.
[15:31] mmcgrath: Anyone have any questions about that?
[15:31] dgilmore: mmcgrath: where can we host tape
[15:31] jcollie: ot - what's soc? i assume it's some RH IT group?
[15:31] dgilmore: and who will swap the tapes?
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[15:32] mmcgrath: jcollie: <nod> they're the guys that run the PHX colo (and many other colo's)
[15:32] mmcgrath: dgilmore: thats the big question.
[15:32] mmcgrath: dgilmore: it'd be at PHX, we could get a robot out there.  I basically went to those guys, said we'd need to backup at least a T by the end of the year.
[15:33] dgilmore: mmcgrath: so they would handle tape rotation?
[15:33] jcollie: would the SOC guys/gals be in charge of swapping tapes then?
[15:33] mmcgrath: jcollie: yep
[15:33] mmcgrath: dgilmore: Not sure.
[15:33] dgilmore: What kinda cost is involved in that ?
[15:33] mmcgrath: dgilmore: a lot.
[15:34] jcollie: what about offsite copies of the tapes?
[15:34] mmcgrath: but its got to get done.
[15:34] dgilmore: f13: when was power upgrade there supposed to be done
[15:34] mmcgrath: jcollie: thats not even on the radar yet.
[15:34] mmcgrath: jcollie: I'm working on a DR plan but thats at least a year out.
[15:34] f13: dgilmore: dunno, I just have vague mentions of it being done.
[15:34] dgilmore: mmcgrath: could we do it in RDU and have a RH person manage tapes?
[15:34] mmcgrath: dgilmore: not efficiently.
[15:34] mmcgrath: I don't think anyway.  Possibly at another colo.
[15:35] dgilmore: mmcgrath: stacys basement?
[15:35] mmcgrath: dgilmore: try not to think of the tapes.  Its a possibility, but there are many others.
[15:35] mdomsch: tape libraries are your friends, if you have to use tapes at all
[15:35] dgilmore: f13: it would be good to get those blades in ASAP
[15:35] mmcgrath: Including another netapp provided by the soc.  The issue is there's no backups at PHX right now, pretty much everything there (besides our stuff) gets replicated to there from somewhere else.
[15:35] f13: dgilmore: indeed it would.
[15:35] jcollie: i suppose if you had enough tapes in the robot and a short retention policy you wouldn't have to swap tapes
[15:36] dgilmore: mmcgrath: can we get netapp space in Tampa or RDU?
[15:36] mmcgrath: anyway, you guys can see this is an expensive and tricky thing so it'll likely take some time to implement.
[15:36] f13: mmcgrath: hrm, since we're using netapps for our stuff, why couldn't the taping happen on the RDU fedora netapp?
[15:36] mmcgrath: f13: because none of the other netapps are the same size as the PHX netapp.
[15:36] mmcgrath: its much much larger.
[15:37] mmcgrath: dgilmore: possibly.
[15:37] f13: mmcgrath: oh the production one, not the mirror one.  sorry
[15:37] mmcgrath: I'm letting the soc figure that stuff out, we're a consumer of theirs.
[15:37] mmcgrath: I've told them what we need hopefully they'll come back at me with what they can provide and what I'll have to find a budget for.
[15:37] mmcgrath: anywho, thats the latest on that.
[15:37] mmcgrath has set the subject to xen Conversion -- mmcgrath
[15:38] mmcgrath: so I've been taking machines down and converting them to iscsi.  I'll be making an SOP for this and for how our cluster works.
[15:38] mmcgrath: I've also been trying to figure out some issues with mod_proxy_balancer.  I think I've got them all figured out now.
[15:39] mmcgrath: we've got 9 hosts running over pure iscsi now, and they've been working great.
[15:39] mmcgrath: Any questions on this?
[15:39] mmcgrath: or comments?
[15:39] dgilmore: im glad we can do it this way
[15:39] jcollie: awesome
[15:39] mmcgrath: dgilmore: so far its proved to be very reliable.
[15:40] mmcgrath has set the subject to Bacula -- mmcgrath
[15:40] mmcgrath: So I've been evaluating bacula and dgilmore's taken a look as well.
[15:40] mmcgrath: we're just waiting on ixs to release another version for review.
[15:40] mmcgrath has set the subject to Translator's Compendium -- Glezos
[15:41] mmcgrath: for those of you that don't know, glezos has been working on http://translate.fedoraproject.org/
[15:41] mmcgrath: Its a pretty exciting app, keep your eye out for more news with it in the future.
[15:41] glezos: yay.
[15:41] mmcgrath has set the subject to Project Hosting -- f13
[15:41] mmcgrath: f13: anything new on this front?
[15:41] mmcgrath: the git plugin still stink?
[15:41] jcollie: i thought that someone was going to do some work on the git plugin
[15:42] f13: git plugin still sucks major ass.
[15:42] f13: jcollie: daMaestro was talking about it
[15:43] f13: mmcgrath: seeing more people asking for projects.  Did 3 this week already
[15:43] jcollie: f13, he get anything done?
[15:43] f13: jcollie: he was waiting for a new laptop to arrive that he could use kvm with I think
[15:43] jcollie: is adding a project something that can be "puppetized"?
[15:43] mmcgrath: f13: its probably time we move that to the cluster until we find a permanent home for it.
[15:43] mmcgrath: f13: does it have a db backend?
[15:44] mmcgrath: or is it flat file?
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[15:45] f13: sqlite backend
[15:45] f13: each project gets it's own sqlite db
[15:45] mmcgrath: f13: is it possible to move that to mysql or postgres or is sqlite a requisite?
[15:45] f13: I think we can actually make it use more robust backends but wasn't necessary for the proof of concept
[15:46] mmcgrath: <nod>  we can examine that then.
[15:46] f13: jcollie: probably not easily puppetted
[15:46] f13: jcollie: the project space is really more like content than config
[15:46] mmcgrath: f13: is there an SOP for creating a new project?
[15:46] f13: yeah, but not under the SOP header yet
[15:47] mmcgrath: <nod> k
[15:47] mmcgrath: f13: anything else there?
[15:48] f13: nope.  I still suck (:
[15:48] mmcgrath: 
[15:48] mmcgrath: moving on
[15:48] mmcgrath has set the subject to FedoraPeople.org -- skvidal
[15:48] mmcgrath: skvidal: whats the word?
[15:48] skvidal: fpserv is cleared of planet stuff
[15:48] skvidal: I am going through the other aliases to it and checking them
[15:48] skvidal: ex: bugs, art, legacy
[15:48] skvidal: (all of which go to bugzilla, amusingly)
[15:48] mmcgrath: fantastic 
[15:49] skvidal: once I'm happy that dns is not taking people there
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[15:49] skvidal: then I can nuke it
[15:49] skvidal: a couple of questions on fpserv
[15:49] skvidal: dns is very very not-being-used on it, right?
[15:49] dgilmore: it was moved away awile ago now
[15:49] mmcgrath: It shouldn't be.  You can tcpdump it.
[15:49] skvidal: okay, well it is still running
[15:49] skvidal: 
[15:50] mmcgrath: skvidal: turn it off and see what happens.  It shouldn't be taking any traffic anymore.
[15:50] skvidal: mmcgrath: cool, just wanted to be sure
[15:50] mmcgrath: and it should be way out of date with what is actually live right now 
[15:50] skvidal: right
[15:50] skvidal: also - where are we sending logs for remote boxes?
[15:50] mmcgrath: skvidal: anything else on that front?
[15:50] skvidal: see above
[15:50] mmcgrath: skvidal: lockbox.
[15:50] skvidal: how do they get through?
[15:50] skvidal: ie: via syslog
[15:51] mmcgrath: http logs go via rsync and syslog go via udp except we're not pulling anything from the external boxes right now.
[15:51] mmcgrath: and AFAIK ssh port forwards don't support UDP yet.
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[15:51] skvidal: is lockbox just using sysklogd?
[15:51] skvidal: b/c we can do tcp syslog using syslog-ng and stunnel the whole thing
[15:51] mmcgrath: yep, I'm working on rebuilding lockbox though.
[15:52] skvidal: okay, then I'll just leave it off for now on fpserv for syslog
[15:52] mmcgrath: so we can re-examine that part of it.
[15:52] mmcgrath: <nod>
[15:52] skvidal: my other question is this
[15:52] skvidal: how do you want me to do the kickstart for this box?
[15:52] skvidal: b/c it can't really be installed using the same mechanisms as boxes in phx
[15:52] mmcgrath: skvidal: actually it *could* be if you wanted to.
[15:52] skvidal: I had planned on doing it via a kickstart and talking to the centos-5 repos
[15:52] skvidal: mmcgrath: how?
[15:53] mmcgrath: We could just expose the install media and kickstarts temporarely.
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[15:53] mmcgrath: or if you're using CentOS-5 we can just expose the kickstart.
[15:53] mmcgrath: though our kickstart scripts are very very simple now.
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[15:53] skvidal: mmcgrath: right, that's why I was wondering if it was worth it
[15:54] mmcgrath: most of the configuration is done with puppet so as long as you get puppet on there and forward a port like what we're doing for ns1.fp.o then you're golden.
[15:54] mmcgrath: skvidal: is duke backing up torrent?
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[15:54] skvidal: okay, I think I can arrange something
[15:54] skvidal: mmcgrath: umm lemme check
[15:54] mmcgrath: k
[15:54] mmcgrath: skvidal: mind if I move on?  we only have a few more minutes left.
[15:55] skvidal: go right ahead
[15:55] mmcgrath has set the subject to Ibiblio Mirror -- mmcgrath

[15:55] mmcgrath: So the ibiblio mirror is setup and syncing.  I just need to test it then have others test it then work with f13 on a plan for how to use it.
[15:55] f13: neat
[15:55] skvidal: quick return - torrent is backed up, yes - but it's excluding the isos b/c we just don't have the space
[15:55] mmcgrath: k
[15:55] mmcgrath has set the subject to noc -- mmcgrath
[15:56] mmcgrath: so the noc site is sort of taking shape.  If anyone has something they'd like to see montiored let me knwo and I'll add it or tell you how to write your own script to add it.
[15:56] mmcgrath: Here's whats there right now - http://publictest4.fedora.redhat.com/noc/list
[15:56] mmcgrath: just some basic stuff.
[15:57] mmcgrath has set the subject to Open Floor -- Everyone
[15:57] mmcgrath: Anyone have anything else to dicsuss?  we have a few more minutes.
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[15:57] skvidal: yah one thing
[15:57] skvidal: I'm working full time now. So if there is shit that needs doing and you think I can help, ping me
[15:58] skvidal: I've been gone for the last 2 months in all serious senses
[15:58] dgilmore: skvidal: what exactly is your role in RH?
[15:58] skvidal: but I'm back and around now
[15:58] skvidal: dgilmore: that's an interesting question
[15:58] skvidal: dgilmore: max actually said the following to me "paying me to do the stuff I was doing before"
[15:58] skvidal: that confused me more, but that's okay
[15:58] dgilmore: skvidal: i want that gig
[15:58] dgilmore: so whatever you want in Fedora space
[15:58] mmcgrath: skvidal: that reminds me.  If any python programmers out there want to assist me with the new account system.  I really could use it.
[15:58] skvidal: in my email to my manager I said that fedorapeople.org was on my short-term todo list
[15:59] skvidal: mmcgrath: subtle
[15:59] mmcgrath: :: wink wink nudge nudge ::
[15:59] skvidal: mmcgrath: where is it?
[15:59] f13: skvidal: and I could probably use a code review of pungi for proper use of yum apis
[15:59] MukulDharwadkar: mmcgrath: Thanks for setting me up on fedoraproject.org
[15:59] skvidal: f13: that's also on my list of things to stare at for a while
[15:59] mmcgrath: http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/accounts2/fas/?root=fedora
[15:59] mmcgrath: MukulDharwadkar: you are welcome.
[15:59] rordway: mmcgrath: I like the NOC data
[16:00] mmcgrath: rordway: if you're interested email me some more things you'd like to see on there.
[16:00] rordway: would be cool to get some server metrics too
[16:00] rordway: k, will do
[16:00] dgilmore: skvidal: ill come up with some task lists for you by the end of week 
[16:00] mmcgrath: Ok, we're at the top of the hour.  If no one has anything else I'll close in 30
[16:00] skvidal: dgilmore: umm, thanks?
[16:00] mmcgrath: 15
[16:01] mmcgrath: 5
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