From frankc.fedora at gmail.com Sun Feb 1 03:18:29 2009 From: frankc.fedora at gmail.com (Frank Chiulli) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:18:29 -0800 Subject: CSI (Security Policy) Help Message-ID: So I've implemented the CSI (Security Policy) as previously posted by Mike (http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/csi/security-policy/en-US/html-singel/) Now I'm seeing the following messages in /var/log/messages: Jan 31 19:09:21 localhost kernel: FW-REJECT IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:16:01:41:10:5b:08:00 SRC=192.168.2.248 DST=192.168.2.255 LEN=78 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=137 DPT=137 LEN=58 Jan 31 19:09:21 localhost kernel: FW-REJECT IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:0e:3b:02:0e:b7:08:00 SRC=192.168.2.250 DST=192.168.2.255 LEN=229 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=138 DPT=138 LEN=209 192.168.2.248 is a NAS device 192.168.2.250 is a Hawking print server I'm not an iptables expert. Usually I just leave it alone. Can someone help me write one or more rules to eliminate the messages? Frank From mmcgrath at redhat.com Sun Feb 1 03:30:44 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:30:44 -0600 (CST) Subject: CSI (Security Policy) Help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, 31 Jan 2009, Frank Chiulli wrote: > So I've implemented the CSI (Security Policy) as previously posted by Mike > (http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/csi/security-policy/en-US/html-singel/) > > Now I'm seeing the following messages in /var/log/messages: > Jan 31 19:09:21 localhost kernel: FW-REJECT IN=eth0 OUT= > MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:16:01:41:10:5b:08:00 SRC=192.168.2.248 > DST=192.168.2.255 LEN=78 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP > SPT=137 DPT=137 LEN=58 > > Jan 31 19:09:21 localhost kernel: FW-REJECT IN=eth0 OUT= > MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:0e:3b:02:0e:b7:08:00 SRC=192.168.2.250 > DST=192.168.2.255 LEN=229 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP > SPT=138 DPT=138 LEN=209 > > > 192.168.2.248 is a NAS device > 192.168.2.250 is a Hawking print server > > I'm not an iptables expert. Usually I just leave it alone. Can > someone help me write one or more rules to eliminate the messages? > I suspect that before you were blocking these messages but didn't notice. You'll see the "DPT=137" and "DPT=138". Those are both ports that the various IP's are trying to hit on your machine. If you check out those ports in /etc/services In this case those devices seem to be using netbios. If you want to get rid of them you can just remove the: -A INPUT -j LOG --log-prefix "FW-REJECT " Or setup netbios, or block the ports explicitly or allow it and let them drop naturally. -Mike From skvidal at fedoraproject.org Sun Feb 1 03:59:40 2009 From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (seth vidal) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:59:40 -0500 Subject: CSI (Security Policy) Help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1233460780.8810.11.camel@rosebud> On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 21:30 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Sat, 31 Jan 2009, Frank Chiulli wrote: > > > So I've implemented the CSI (Security Policy) as previously posted by Mike > > (http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/csi/security-policy/en-US/html-singel/) > > > > Now I'm seeing the following messages in /var/log/messages: > > Jan 31 19:09:21 localhost kernel: FW-REJECT IN=eth0 OUT= > > MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:16:01:41:10:5b:08:00 SRC=192.168.2.248 > > DST=192.168.2.255 LEN=78 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP > > SPT=137 DPT=137 LEN=58 > > > > Jan 31 19:09:21 localhost kernel: FW-REJECT IN=eth0 OUT= > > MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:0e:3b:02:0e:b7:08:00 SRC=192.168.2.250 > > DST=192.168.2.255 LEN=229 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP > > SPT=138 DPT=138 LEN=209 > > > > > > 192.168.2.248 is a NAS device > > 192.168.2.250 is a Hawking print server > > > > I'm not an iptables expert. Usually I just leave it alone. Can > > someone help me write one or more rules to eliminate the messages? > > > > I suspect that before you were blocking these messages but didn't notice. > You'll see the "DPT=137" and "DPT=138". Those are both ports that the > various IP's are trying to hit on your machine. If you check out those > ports in /etc/services > > In this case those devices seem to be using netbios. If you want to get > rid of them you can just remove the: > > -A INPUT -j LOG --log-prefix "FW-REJECT " > > Or setup netbios, or block the ports explicitly or allow it and let them > drop naturally. Those are windows/samba/cifs ports. if you've got samba running and/or a windows (or now-adays even a mac) running on the same network you'll probably find your culprit. -sv From frankc.fedora at gmail.com Sun Feb 1 05:09:49 2009 From: frankc.fedora at gmail.com (Frank Chiulli) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:09:49 -0800 Subject: CSI (Security Policy) Help In-Reply-To: <1233460780.8810.11.camel@rosebud> References: <1233460780.8810.11.camel@rosebud> Message-ID: On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 7:59 PM, seth vidal wrote: > On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 21:30 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: >> On Sat, 31 Jan 2009, Frank Chiulli wrote: >> >> > So I've implemented the CSI (Security Policy) as previously posted by Mike >> > (http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/csi/security-policy/en-US/html-singel/) >> > >> > Now I'm seeing the following messages in /var/log/messages: >> > Jan 31 19:09:21 localhost kernel: FW-REJECT IN=eth0 OUT= >> > MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:16:01:41:10:5b:08:00 SRC=192.168.2.248 >> > DST=192.168.2.255 LEN=78 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP >> > SPT=137 DPT=137 LEN=58 >> > >> > Jan 31 19:09:21 localhost kernel: FW-REJECT IN=eth0 OUT= >> > MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:0e:3b:02:0e:b7:08:00 SRC=192.168.2.250 >> > DST=192.168.2.255 LEN=229 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP >> > SPT=138 DPT=138 LEN=209 >> > >> > >> > 192.168.2.248 is a NAS device >> > 192.168.2.250 is a Hawking print server >> > >> > I'm not an iptables expert. Usually I just leave it alone. Can >> > someone help me write one or more rules to eliminate the messages? >> > >> >> I suspect that before you were blocking these messages but didn't notice. >> You'll see the "DPT=137" and "DPT=138". Those are both ports that the >> various IP's are trying to hit on your machine. If you check out those >> ports in /etc/services >> >> In this case those devices seem to be using netbios. If you want to get >> rid of them you can just remove the: >> >> -A INPUT -j LOG --log-prefix "FW-REJECT " >> >> Or setup netbios, or block the ports explicitly or allow it and let them >> drop naturally. > > Those are windows/samba/cifs ports. if you've got samba running and/or a > windows (or now-adays even a mac) running on the same network you'll > probably find your culprit. > > -sv > > > I'm not running samba. If I put the following rule before the LOG rule, will the packets be dropped and the messages stopped? -A INPUT -p udp -s 192.168.0.0/24 -d 192.168.0.0/24 -m multiport --ports 137,138 -j DROP Frank From kanarip at kanarip.com Sun Feb 1 06:27:10 2009 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 07:27:10 +0100 Subject: Change request Message-ID: <498540BE.6010207@kanarip.com> Hey, I'd like the following patch to be applied. It fixes the redirects for RPM-GPG-KEY files for secondary arches not to be redirected to /pub/fedora-secondary/, so that Jigdo's can find the files. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip commit b240e804a23e4171d21de19f0de0ec4b34586654 Author: Jeroen van Meeuwen Date: Tue Dec 30 01:02:00 2008 +0000 Fix the rewrite for secondary architectures. The rewrite caused GPG keys in primary architecture install trees matching the name of a secondary architecture to be rewritten to secondary-archs. diff --git a/configs/web/download.fedoraproject.org/rewrite.conf b/configs/web/download.fedoraproject.org/rewrite.conf index 63f2e45..adc7a3c 100644 --- a/configs/web/download.fedoraproject.org/rewrite.conf +++ b/configs/web/download.fedoraproject.org/rewrite.conf @@ -4,8 +4,8 @@ RequestHeader set CP-Location /mirrormanager RewriteEngine On -RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/pub/fedora/linux/.*ia64.* [OR] -RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/pub/fedora/linux/.*sparc.* +RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/pub/fedora/linux/.*[/]+ia64.* [OR] +RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/pub/fedora/linux/.*[/]+sparc.* RewriteRule ^/pub/fedora/linux/(.*) /pub/fedora-secondary/$1 RewriteRule ^/(.+)$ balancer://mirrorsCluster//mirrorlist?path=$1&redirect=1 [P] From laxathom at fedoraproject.org Sun Feb 1 08:32:56 2009 From: laxathom at fedoraproject.org (Xavier Lamien) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:32:56 +0100 Subject: Change request In-Reply-To: <498540BE.6010207@kanarip.com> References: <498540BE.6010207@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <62bc09df0902010032s158a716buc91b521c31c6d25@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 7:27 AM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Hey, > > I'd like the following patch to be applied. It fixes the redirects for > RPM-GPG-KEY files for secondary arches not to be redirected to > /pub/fedora-secondary/, so that Jigdo's can find the files. > +1 -- Xavier.t Lamien -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/XavierLamien GPG-Key ID: F3903DEB Fingerprint: 0F2A 7A17 0F1B 82EE FCBF 1F51 76B7 A28D F390 3DEB From Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net Sun Feb 1 09:16:34 2009 From: Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net (Axel Thimm) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:16:34 +0100 Subject: /releases/10/Everything: several packages changed In-Reply-To: <1233439108.3650.395.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090131181012.GA3721@victor.nirvana> <1233432879.3650.387.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1233433307.3650.391.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1233439108.3650.395.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090201091634.GB31604@teufli.physik.fu-berlin.de> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 01:58:28PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 12:21 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > > This was certainly unexpected, and repairing this is going to be... > > interesting. > > > > Through some fun work with /sbin/hardlink I got a lot of the packages > fixed up. There are some more that aren't quite right, due to the > development tree having moved on, so I'll have to fix this individually. Isn't there a backup of /releases/ to pull back the original files? -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net From angel at linux.org.bd Sun Feb 1 09:30:28 2009 From: angel at linux.org.bd (Ashiqur Rahman Angel) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:30:28 +0600 Subject: Fedora 11: What do we expect? Message-ID: Hi, It?s almost one year, I am with the Fedora community. In this one year, I met so many great people from Fedora community. I have visited hundreds of forums, mailing lists. I meet so many people who uses Fedora (also who doesn?t). I have learned so many things from them. Some of them are happy using Fedora and some them are not. And I think, as a community member, it?s my responsibility to inform you guys about some issues that I think, why people doesnt like to use Fedora or switching to other distros. And something, that we need to fix. 1. Need to include RPM Fusion with Fedora 11 default installation (but not activated, like Fedora test repo or raw hide, as we don?t include proprietary software). If this is not possible (may be because of some legal issue), then I?ll say, we need a working GUI solution to install RPM Fusion. According to RPM Fusion they explained a GUI solution to install the repo, but most of the time, it doesnt work at all (I myself, tested thousands time, also so many people there has, who tried, I searched for the solution, everyone give me CLI solution). And KPackage Kit can?t install it. So we need a solution that will work for GNOME and KDE both. 2. Need a GUI solution to install nVidia and ATI driver, that will automatically install the appropriate driver (Ubuntu has a GUI *Hardware Drivers *options that automatically download and install the driver, also they have Envy, its another GUI solution) 3. Need a GUI solution to install all kind of proprietary Multimedia codecs (Ubuntu has ubuntu-restricted-extras, they simply select it from package manager, and it installs all kind of codecs including JAVA) 4. Need a complete GUI solution to install softwares offline from cache (ofcourse if it can fix the dependency) or DVD Media. 5. There has a very easy way to install a rpm package from CLI (one single package, that has not any dependency issue or if it has, it?s possible to install the package by ignoring it). But from Fedora 9, GUI double click rpm install doesnt work at all. So, we need a GUI solution of it. 6. Need to add CD/DVD repo with Fedora 11 default installation, so people can use DVD to install softwares. 7. From /etc/yum.conf we need to edit keepcache=0 to 1 as default. So people can use the cache to install software later or to some other PC. Many of you will say, why we are following Ubuntu? Well, I?ll say, no, we are not following them. This is the truth, what users want. And many of you will think, this ideas are stupid, but truth is If this issues we can fix, for sure, so many people will start using Fedora. My apologies, if I am wrong anywhere. -- Angel GPG key: 0x34001F46 Bangladesh Linux Users Alliance Fedora Ambassador Bangladesh http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Angel Fedora -- Freedom? and rapid innovation -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From indosoft at inbox.com Sun Feb 1 10:53:32 2009 From: indosoft at inbox.com (Indosoft) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 02:53:32 -0800 Subject: Self Introduction Message-ID: <22F67385FD8.000001C3indosoft@inbox.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From indosoft at inbox.com Sun Feb 1 10:53:39 2009 From: indosoft at inbox.com (Indosoft) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 02:53:39 -0800 Subject: Self Introduction Message-ID: <22F6B6BA466.000001C4indosoft@inbox.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From angel at linux.org.bd Sun Feb 1 13:31:22 2009 From: angel at linux.org.bd (Ashiqur Rahman Angel) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 19:31:22 +0600 Subject: Fedora 11: What do we expect? In-Reply-To: <635d8d560902010526g531bbd09qbb2c4ebfecda8f5c@mail.gmail.com> References: <635d8d560902010526g531bbd09qbb2c4ebfecda8f5c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks. Ok. I am forwarding it there. On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > 2009/2/1 Ashiqur Rahman Angel : > > Hi, > > > > It?s almost one year, I am with the Fedora community. In this one year, I > > met so many great people from Fedora community. I have visited hundreds > of > > forums, mailing lists. I meet so many people who uses Fedora (also who > > doesn?t). I have learned so many things from them. Some of them are > happy > > using Fedora and some them are not. And I think, as a community member, > it?s > > my responsibility to inform you guys about some issues that I think, why > > people doesnt like to use Fedora or switching to other distros. And > > something, that we need to fix. > > You'd probably be far better off discussing this on > fedora-devel-list at redhat.com > > Jon > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Angel GPG key: 0x34001F46 Bangladesh Linux Users Alliance Fedora Ambassador Bangladesh http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Angel Fedora -- Freedom? and rapid innovation -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From angel at linux.org.bd Sun Feb 1 15:41:48 2009 From: angel at linux.org.bd (Ashiqur Rahman Angel) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:41:48 -0500 Subject: Fedora 11: What do we expect? In-Reply-To: <8D52B6E0-973C-49D4-A654-A4950C3602AC@gmail.com> References: <8D52B6E0-973C-49D4-A654-A4950C3602AC@gmail.com> Message-ID: According to Fedora Devel List, I have got some hope about this issues I have explained. May be soon we will get all the solutions. If not in this release (Fedora 11), then may be in Fedora 12. Thanks. 2009/2/1 Kanin Horvath > The goal of fedora isn't to make it super easy for new users to Linux. > That's ubuntu's job. Fedora aims to be a free, usable OS. I agree with some > of your points but I don't think they are part of the goals of Fedora. > > Fedora isn't meant to compete with other operating systems. It aims to > provide an independent solution to users. > > -- > Kamin Horvath > Fedora Ambassadors USA > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:mohaas05 > > > On Feb 1, 2009, at 4:30 AM, Ashiqur Rahman Angel > wrote: > > Hi, > > It?s almost one year, I am with the Fedora community. In this one year, I > met so many great people from Fedora community. I have visited hundreds of > forums, mailing lists. I meet so many people who uses Fedora (also who > doesn?t). I have learned so many things from them. Some of them are happy > using Fedora and some them are not. And I think, as a community member, it?s > my responsibility to inform you guys about some issues that I think, why > people doesnt like to use Fedora or switching to other distros. And > something, that we need to fix. > > 1. Need to include RPM Fusion with Fedora 11 default installation (but not > activated, like Fedora test repo or raw hide, as we don?t include > proprietary software). If this is not possible (may be because of some legal > issue), then I?ll say, we need a working GUI solution to install RPM Fusion. > According to RPM Fusion they > explained a GUI solution to install the repo, but most of the time, it > doesnt work at all (I myself, tested thousands time, also so many people > there has, who tried, I searched for the solution, everyone give me CLI > solution). And KPackage Kit can?t install it. So we need a solution that > will work for GNOME and KDE both. > > 2. Need a GUI solution to install nVidia and ATI driver, that will > automatically install the appropriate driver (Ubuntu has a GUI *Hardware > Drivers *options that automatically download and install the driver, also > they have Envy, its another GUI solution) > > 3. Need a GUI solution to install all kind of proprietary Multimedia codecs > (Ubuntu has ubuntu-restricted-extras, they simply select it from package > manager, and it installs all kind of codecs including JAVA) > > 4. Need a complete GUI solution to install softwares offline from cache > (ofcourse if it can fix the dependency) or DVD Media. > > 5. There has a very easy way to install a rpm package from CLI (one single > package, that has not any dependency issue or if it has, it?s possible to > install the package by ignoring it). But from Fedora 9, GUI double click rpm > install doesnt work at all. So, we need a GUI solution of it. > > 6. Need to add CD/DVD repo with Fedora 11 default installation, so people > can use DVD to install softwares. > > 7. From /etc/yum.conf we need to edit keepcache=0 to 1 as default. So > people can use the cache to install software later or to some other PC. > > Many of you will say, why we are following Ubuntu? Well, I?ll say, no, we > are not following them. This is the truth, what users want. And many of you > will think, this ideas are stupid, but truth is If this issues we can fix, > for sure, so many people will start using Fedora. My apologies, if I am > wrong anywhere. > > > -- > Angel > GPG key: 0x34001F46 > Bangladesh Linux Users Alliance > Fedora Ambassador Bangladesh > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Angel > > Fedora -- Freedom? and rapid innovation > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Angel GPG key: 0x34001F46 Bangladesh Linux Users Alliance Fedora Ambassador Bangladesh http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Angel Fedora -- Freedom? and rapid innovation -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Sun Feb 1 16:08:22 2009 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:38:22 +0530 Subject: Fedora 11: What do we expect? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3170f42f0902010808h56d3bdf4k17155b30b6e32a34@mail.gmail.com> > 4. Need a complete GUI solution to install softwares offline from cache > (ofcourse if it can fix the dependency) or DVD Media. PackageKit has it: http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/10/09/service-pack-gui/ Cheerio, Debarshi From danishka at gmail.com Sun Feb 1 16:09:23 2009 From: danishka at gmail.com (Danishka Navin) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:39:23 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect? In-Reply-To: <8D52B6E0-973C-49D4-A654-A4950C3602AC@gmail.com> References: <8D52B6E0-973C-49D4-A654-A4950C3602AC@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2009/2/1 Kanin Horvath > The goal of fedora isn't to make it super easy for new users to Linux. > > That's ubuntu's job. > Whats wrong with "super easy" Operating System if it include all security capabilities? To whom you are developing this? Is this for geeks? or for every one (including new users)? > > > Fedora aims to be a free, usable OS. I agree with some of your points but I > don't think they are part of the goals of Fedora. > > Fedora isn't meant to compete with other operating systems. It aims to > provide an independent solution to users. > > -- > Kamin Horvath > Fedora Ambassadors USA > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:mohaas05 > > > On Feb 1, 2009, at 4:30 AM, Ashiqur Rahman Angel > wrote: > > Hi, > > It?s almost one year, I am with the Fedora community. In this one year, I > met so many great people from Fedora community. I have visited hundreds of > forums, mailing lists. I meet so many people who uses Fedora (also who > doesn?t). I have learned so many things from them. Some of them are happy > using Fedora and some them are not. And I think, as a community member, it?s > my responsibility to inform you guys about some issues that I think, why > people doesnt like to use Fedora or switching to other distros. And > something, that we need to fix. > > 1. Need to include RPM Fusion with Fedora 11 default installation (but not > activated, like Fedora test repo or raw hide, as we don?t include > proprietary software). If this is not possible (may be because of some legal > issue), then I?ll say, we need a working GUI solution to install RPM Fusion. > According to RPM Fusion they > explained a GUI solution to install the repo, but most of the time, it > doesnt work at all (I myself, tested thousands time, also so many people > there has, who tried, I searched for the solution, everyone give me CLI > solution). And KPackage Kit can?t install it. So we need a solution that > will work for GNOME and KDE both. > > 2. Need a GUI solution to install nVidia and ATI driver, that will > automatically install the appropriate driver (Ubuntu has a GUI *Hardware > Drivers *options that automatically download and install the driver, also > they have Envy, its another GUI solution) > > 3. Need a GUI solution to install all kind of proprietary Multimedia codecs > (Ubuntu has ubuntu-restricted-extras, they simply select it from package > manager, and it installs all kind of codecs including JAVA) > > 4. Need a complete GUI solution to install softwares offline from cache > (ofcourse if it can fix the dependency) or DVD Media. > > 5. There has a very easy way to install a rpm package from CLI (one single > package, that has not any dependency issue or if it has, it?s possible to > install the package by ignoring it). But from Fedora 9, GUI double click rpm > install doesnt work at all. So, we need a GUI solution of it. > > 6. Need to add CD/DVD repo with Fedora 11 default installation, so people > can use DVD to install softwares. > > 7. From /etc/yum.conf we need to edit keepcache=0 to 1 as default. So > people can use the cache to install software later or to some other PC. > > Many of you will say, why we are following Ubuntu? Well, I?ll say, no, we > are not following them. This is the truth, what users want. And many of you > will think, this ideas are stupid, but truth is If this issues we can fix, > for sure, so many people will start using Fedora. My apologies, if I am > wrong anywhere. > > > -- > Angel > GPG key: 0x34001F46 > Bangladesh Linux Users Alliance > Fedora Ambassador Bangladesh > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Angel > > Fedora -- Freedom? and rapid innovation > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com (use Sinhala Unicode fonts) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It fixes the redirects for > > RPM-GPG-KEY files for secondary arches not to be redirected to > > /pub/fedora-secondary/, so that Jigdo's can find the files. > > > > +1 > +1 -Mike From ricky at fedoraproject.org Sun Feb 1 16:50:18 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:50:18 -0500 Subject: Change request In-Reply-To: <498540BE.6010207@kanarip.com> References: <498540BE.6010207@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <20090201165018.GB12229@sphe.res.cmu.edu> On 2009-02-01 07:27:10 AM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > -RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/pub/fedora/linux/.*ia64.* [OR] > -RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/pub/fedora/linux/.*sparc.* > +RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/pub/fedora/linux/.*[/]+ia64.* [OR] > +RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/pub/fedora/linux/.*[/]+sparc.* > RewriteRule ^/pub/fedora/linux/(.*) /pub/fedora-secondary/$1 +1 Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If I put the following rule before the LOG > rule, will the packets be dropped and the messages stopped? > > -A INPUT -p udp -s 192.168.0.0/24 -d 192.168.0.0/24 -m multiport > --ports 137,138 -j DROP > I normally go with 135:139 as they are noisy ports. On a public network I have a list of ports I drop because they are noisy -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 67:68 -j DROP -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 135:139 -j DROP -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 445 -j DROP -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 67:68 -j DROP -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 135:139 -j DROP -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --sport 177 --dport 177 -j DROP -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 445 -j DROP -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 1024:1030 -j DROP The 1024:1030 UDP drop the enormouse anmount of UDP pop-up spam. -- Stephen J Smoogen. -- BSD/GNU/Linux How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice" From frankc.fedora at gmail.com Sun Feb 1 21:35:26 2009 From: frankc.fedora at gmail.com (Frank Chiulli) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:35:26 -0800 Subject: CSI (Security Policy) Help In-Reply-To: <80d7e4090902011108u47b22605tbcde3014d1460575@mail.gmail.com> References: <1233460780.8810.11.camel@rosebud> <80d7e4090902011108u47b22605tbcde3014d1460575@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Frank Chiulli wrote: > >> >> I'm not running samba. If I put the following rule before the LOG >> rule, will the packets be dropped and the messages stopped? >> >> -A INPUT -p udp -s 192.168.0.0/24 -d 192.168.0.0/24 -m multiport >> --ports 137,138 -j DROP >> > > I normally go with 135:139 as they are noisy ports. On a public > network I have a list of ports I drop because they are noisy > > > -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 67:68 -j DROP > -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 135:139 -j DROP > -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 445 -j DROP > -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 67:68 -j DROP > -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 135:139 -j DROP > -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --sport 177 --dport 177 -j DROP > -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 445 -j DROP > -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 1024:1030 -j DROP > > The 1024:1030 UDP drop the enormouse anmount of UDP pop-up spam. > > > > -- > Stephen J Smoogen. -- BSD/GNU/Linux > How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed > in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice" > Stephen, Thanks for the suggestions. I'm hoping that my router throws most of those away because so far all I've seen in messages is local traffic. I discovered something interesting while looking at messages. I saw the following message repeated several times: Feb 1 09:03:46 localhost kernel: FW-REJECT IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:21:47:b7:86:61:08:00 SRC=0.0.0.0 DST=255.255.255.255 LEN=328 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=40094 PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=308 I was curious what it was because of 'SRC=0.0.0.0'. It turned out to be my Wii. I discovered this based on my router which keeps track of MAC addresses and IP addresses. I had forgotten that it was on my net. Frank From smooge at gmail.com Sun Feb 1 21:54:33 2009 From: smooge at gmail.com (Stephen John Smoogen) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 14:54:33 -0700 Subject: CSI (Security Policy) Help In-Reply-To: References: <1233460780.8810.11.camel@rosebud> <80d7e4090902011108u47b22605tbcde3014d1460575@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <80d7e4090902011354v4991b5fbleef903074f0cb408@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Frank Chiulli wrote: > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Frank Chiulli wrote: >> >>> >>> I'm not running samba. If I put the following rule before the LOG >>> rule, will the packets be dropped and the messages stopped? >>> >>> -A INPUT -p udp -s 192.168.0.0/24 -d 192.168.0.0/24 -m multiport >>> --ports 137,138 -j DROP >>> >> >> I normally go with 135:139 as they are noisy ports. On a public >> network I have a list of ports I drop because they are noisy >> >> >> -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 67:68 -j DROP >> -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 135:139 -j DROP >> -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 445 -j DROP >> -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 67:68 -j DROP >> -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 135:139 -j DROP >> -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --sport 177 --dport 177 -j DROP >> -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 445 -j DROP >> -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 1024:1030 -j DROP >> >> The 1024:1030 UDP drop the enormouse anmount of UDP pop-up spam. >> >> >> >> -- >> Stephen J Smoogen. -- BSD/GNU/Linux >> How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed >> in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice" >> > > Stephen, > Thanks for the suggestions. I'm hoping that my router throws most of > those away because so far all I've seen in messages is local traffic. > > I discovered something interesting while looking at messages. I saw > the following message repeated several times: > > Feb 1 09:03:46 localhost kernel: FW-REJECT IN=eth0 OUT= > MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:21:47:b7:86:61:08:00 SRC=0.0.0.0 > DST=255.255.255.255 LEN=328 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=40094 > PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=308 > > I was curious what it was because of 'SRC=0.0.0.0'. It turned out to > be my Wii. I discovered this based on my router which keeps track of > MAC addresses and IP addresses. I had forgotten that it was on my > net. Yeah... that one can be a shocker when first looked at :). As you probably know, the reason is that a box booting up doesn't have an IP address and the old standard was to use 0.0.0.0 as the default to start up as. Some other boxes use a different from IP address, but for the most part they are 0.0.0.0 -- Stephen J Smoogen. -- BSD/GNU/Linux How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice" From jeff at ocjtech.us Sun Feb 1 23:19:10 2009 From: jeff at ocjtech.us (Jeffrey Ollie) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:19:10 -0600 Subject: CSI (Security Policy) Help In-Reply-To: References: <1233460780.8810.11.camel@rosebud> <80d7e4090902011108u47b22605tbcde3014d1460575@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <935ead450902011519s7efe507ew6c15fb18468e90f4@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Frank Chiulli wrote: > > Feb 1 09:03:46 localhost kernel: FW-REJECT IN=eth0 OUT= > MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:21:47:b7:86:61:08:00 SRC=0.0.0.0 > DST=255.255.255.255 LEN=328 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=40094 > PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=308 > > I was curious what it was because of 'SRC=0.0.0.0'. It turned out to > be my Wii. I discovered this based on my router which keeps track of > MAC addresses and IP addresses. I had forgotten that it was on my > net. This is a standard DHCP/BOOTP packet. When a system is booting up it doesn't have an IP address to stick in there so it puts 0.0.0.0. The DHCP server and/or DHCP relay uses the MAC address of the client to send a response back. -- Jeff Ollie "You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe." -- Marcus to Franklin in Babylon 5: "A Late Delivery from Avalon" From jkeating at redhat.com Mon Feb 2 00:34:03 2009 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 16:34:03 -0800 Subject: Change request; tmpfile cleanup Message-ID: <1233534843.7493.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> I added some code just after FUDCon to generate a fullfilelist at the top of /pub/fedora/. I made an error in this leading to lots of /tmp/ files. Subject: [PATCH] Fix an alias assignment. This was causing /tmp/ to fill up with lots of tmpfiles of no use. Also, use a more modern syntax. --- configs/system/fedora-updates-push | 2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) diff --git a/configs/system/fedora-updates-push b/configs/system/fedora-updates-push index 473048a..8c09e27 100755 --- a/configs/system/fedora-updates-push +++ b/configs/system/fedora-updates-push @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@ rsync -rlptDvHh --delay-updates $RSYNC_OPTS --delete --delete-after \ done pushd /pub/fedora/ -TMPFILE = `mktemp -p /tmp/` +TMPFILE=$(mktemp -p /tmp/) find * -print > $TMPFILE diff $TMPFILE fullfilelist >/dev/null if [ "$?" = "1" ]; then -- 1.5.5.6 -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I made an error in this leading to lots of > /tmp/ > files. > > Subject: [PATCH] Fix an alias assignment. > > This was causing /tmp/ to fill up with lots of tmpfiles of no use. > Also, use a more modern syntax. > --- > configs/system/fedora-updates-push | 2 +- > 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/configs/system/fedora-updates-push > b/configs/system/fedora-updates-push > index 473048a..8c09e27 100755 > --- a/configs/system/fedora-updates-push > +++ b/configs/system/fedora-updates-push > @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@ rsync -rlptDvHh --delay-updates $RSYNC_OPTS > --delete > --delete-after \ > done > > pushd /pub/fedora/ > -TMPFILE = `mktemp -p /tmp/` > +TMPFILE=$(mktemp -p /tmp/) > find * -print > $TMPFILE > diff $TMPFILE fullfilelist >/dev/null > if [ "$?" = "1" ]; then > -- > 1.5.5.6 > > -- > Jesse Keating > Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! > identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list From mmcgrath at redhat.com Mon Feb 2 01:11:57 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 19:11:57 -0600 (CST) Subject: telia1 is hurtin for certain Message-ID: Nirik noticed the wiki behaving slow. After some investigation I noticed telia1 had a ro filesystem. Anyway, a reboot later and she's dead jim. I've created a ticket with proio (they provide our remote hands in telia for free, we are happy to have them as a Fedora sponsor :) Anywho, I'll let you all know whats up when I know more. In the meantime I've removed telia1 from our proxy rotation. -Mike From ricky at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 2 01:17:36 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 20:17:36 -0500 Subject: Change request; tmpfile cleanup In-Reply-To: <1233534843.7493.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1233534843.7493.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090202011736.GC12229@sphe.res.cmu.edu> On 2009-02-01 04:34:03 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > I added some code just after FUDCon to generate a fullfilelist at the > top of /pub/fedora/. 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I'm willing to help, but I have to ask - would it make sense to hold this until after F11 is out? -sv From ricky at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 2 13:40:55 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:40:55 -0500 Subject: Change request: Another tmpfile fix Message-ID: <20090202134055.GE12229@sphe.res.cmu.edu> Looks like there's a problem with the fullfilelist tmpfile removal for EPEL as well. Can I get some +1s for this patch? diff --git a/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp b/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp index ca01522..846d581 100644 --- a/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp +++ b/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ class mirrormaster { } cron { epel-sync: - command => 'rsync -aHz --numeric-ids --delete-after --exclude=".snapshot" --exclude="*/build-logs" buildsys.fedoraproject.org::epel/ /pub/epel/ &>/dev/null && TMPFILE=`mktemp -p /tmp`; pushd /pub/epel; find * -print > $TMPFILE; diff $TMPFILE fullfilelist >/dev/null; if [ "$?" = "1" ]; then mv $TMPFILE fullfilelist; fi', + command => 'rsync -aHz --numeric-ids --delete-after --exclude=".snapshot" --exclude="*/build-logs" buildsys.fedoraproject.org::epel/ /pub/epel/ &>/dev/null && TMPFILE=`mktemp -p /tmp`; pushd /pub/epel; find * -print > $TMPFILE; diff $TMPFILE fullfilelist >/dev/null; if [ "$?" = "1" ]; then mv $TMPFILE fullfilelist; else rm -f $TMPFILE; fi', user => ftpsync, minute => [ 10, 40 ], ensure => present, -- Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ricky at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 2 13:53:29 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:53:29 -0500 Subject: Change request: Another tmpfile fix In-Reply-To: <20090202134055.GE12229@sphe.res.cmu.edu> References: <20090202134055.GE12229@sphe.res.cmu.edu> Message-ID: <20090202135329.GF12229@sphe.res.cmu.edu> On 2009-02-02 08:40:55 AM, Ricky Zhou wrote: > Looks like there's a problem with the fullfilelist tmpfile removal for > EPEL as well. Can I get some +1s for this patch? Actually, ignore that one. This might be a bit simpler: diff --git a/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp b/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp index ca01522..73bfb94 100644 --- a/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp +++ b/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ class mirrormaster { } cron { epel-sync: - command => 'rsync -aHz --numeric-ids --delete-after --exclude=".snapshot" --exclude="*/build-logs" buildsys.fedoraproject.org::epel/ /pub/epel/ &>/dev/null && TMPFILE=`mktemp -p /tmp`; pushd /pub/epel; find * -print > $TMPFILE; diff $TMPFILE fullfilelist >/dev/null; if [ "$?" = "1" ]; then mv $TMPFILE fullfilelist; fi', + command => 'rsync -aHz --numeric-ids --delete-after --exclude=".snapshot" --exclude="*/build-logs" buildsys.fedoraproject.org::epel/ /pub/epel/ &>/dev/null && TMPFILE=$(mktemp -p /tmp); pushd /pub/epel; find * -print > $TMPFILE; if diff $TMPFILE fullfilelist > /dev/null; then mv $TMPFILE fullfilelist; else rm -f $TMPFILE; fi', user => ftpsync, minute => [ 10, 40 ], ensure => present, -- Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mmcgrath at redhat.com Mon Feb 2 14:04:53 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:04:53 -0600 (CST) Subject: Upgrading Fedora Hosted to Trac-0.11 In-Reply-To: <1233555439.7493.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1233555439.7493.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Sun, 1 Feb 2009, Jesse Keating wrote: > There are some features I'd really like to make use of in 0.11, > particularly the metrics feature, but I think there are others as well. > Trac 0.11 is where all the development seems to be happening, we'll > slowly fall farther and farther behind. > > There is a catch with 0.11, in that it requires an ondisk change of the > project db, so I don't feel comfortable just putting 0.11 in EPEL-5 as > an upgrade to 0.10. > > What I'd like is some help in investigating and planning how to do the > upgrade in such a way that will be a low cost to the Infra team to > maintain, but could also perhaps be pushed into EPEL for other trac > users. > > Would anybody like to help me with this? > I can help with this, I've gone through a trac upgrade that required on disk changes before, hosted2 makes testing pretty easy :) -Mike From ricky at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 2 14:31:08 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:31:08 -0500 Subject: Change request: Another tmpfile fix In-Reply-To: <20090202135329.GF12229@sphe.res.cmu.edu> References: <20090202134055.GE12229@sphe.res.cmu.edu> <20090202135329.GF12229@sphe.res.cmu.edu> Message-ID: <20090202143108.GG12229@sphe.res.cmu.edu> On 2009-02-02 08:53:29 AM, Ricky Zhou wrote: > On 2009-02-02 08:40:55 AM, Ricky Zhou wrote: > > Looks like there's a problem with the fullfilelist tmpfile removal for > > EPEL as well. Can I get some +1s for this patch? > Actually, ignore that one. This might be a bit simpler: Oops, I forgot to fix the same problem in fedora-updates-push. Here's the latest patch that include all of my changes: diff --git a/configs/system/fedora-updates-push b/configs/system/fedora-updates-push index 8c09e27..a475163 100755 --- a/configs/system/fedora-updates-push +++ b/configs/system/fedora-updates-push @@ -38,7 +38,8 @@ done pushd /pub/fedora/ TMPFILE=$(mktemp -p /tmp/) find * -print > $TMPFILE -diff $TMPFILE fullfilelist >/dev/null -if [ "$?" = "1" ]; then +if diff $TMPFILE fullfilelist > /dev/null; then mv $TMPFILE fullfilelist +else + rm -f $TMPFILE fi diff --git a/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp b/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp index ca01522..73bfb94 100644 --- a/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp +++ b/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ class mirrormaster { } cron { epel-sync: - command => 'rsync -aHz --numeric-ids --delete-after --exclude=".snapshot" --exclude="*/build-logs" buildsys.fedoraproject.org::epel/ /pub/epel/ &>/dev/null && TMPFILE=`mktemp -p /tmp`; pushd /pub/epel; find * -print > $TMPFILE; diff $TMPFILE fullfilelist >/dev/null; if [ "$?" = "1" ]; then mv $TMPFILE fullfilelist; fi', + command => 'rsync -aHz --numeric-ids --delete-after --exclude=".snapshot" --exclude="*/build-logs" buildsys.fedoraproject.org::epel/ /pub/epel/ &>/dev/null && TMPFILE=$(mktemp -p /tmp); pushd /pub/epel; find * -print > $TMPFILE; if diff $TMPFILE fullfilelist > /dev/null; then mv $TMPFILE fullfilelist; else rm -f $TMPFILE; fi', user => ftpsync, minute => [ 10, 40 ], ensure => present, Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ricky at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 2 14:35:32 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:35:32 -0500 Subject: Change request: Another tmpfile fix In-Reply-To: <20090202143108.GG12229@sphe.res.cmu.edu> References: <20090202134055.GE12229@sphe.res.cmu.edu> <20090202135329.GF12229@sphe.res.cmu.edu> <20090202143108.GG12229@sphe.res.cmu.edu> Message-ID: <20090202143532.GH12229@sphe.res.cmu.edu> On 2009-02-02 09:31:08 AM, Ricky Zhou wrote: > On 2009-02-02 08:53:29 AM, Ricky Zhou wrote: > > On 2009-02-02 08:40:55 AM, Ricky Zhou wrote: > > > Looks like there's a problem with the fullfilelist tmpfile removal for > > > EPEL as well. Can I get some +1s for this patch? > > Actually, ignore that one. This might be a bit simpler: > Oops, I forgot to fix the same problem in fedora-updates-push. Here's > the latest patch that include all of my changes: Sorry again. I just realized that I reversed the if statement. That's what I get for not sleeping. Here the corrected version: diff --git a/configs/system/fedora-updates-push b/configs/system/fedora-updates-push index 8c09e27..380af87 100755 --- a/configs/system/fedora-updates-push +++ b/configs/system/fedora-updates-push @@ -38,7 +38,8 @@ done pushd /pub/fedora/ TMPFILE=$(mktemp -p /tmp/) find * -print > $TMPFILE -diff $TMPFILE fullfilelist >/dev/null -if [ "$?" = "1" ]; then +if diff $TMPFILE fullfilelist > /dev/null; then + rm -f $TMPFILE +else mv $TMPFILE fullfilelist fi diff --git a/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp b/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp index ca01522..b7c2b47 100644 --- a/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp +++ b/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ class mirrormaster { } cron { epel-sync: - command => 'rsync -aHz --numeric-ids --delete-after --exclude=".snapshot" --exclude="*/build-logs" buildsys.fedoraproject.org::epel/ /pub/epel/ &>/dev/null && TMPFILE=`mktemp -p /tmp`; pushd /pub/epel; find * -print > $TMPFILE; diff $TMPFILE fullfilelist >/dev/null; if [ "$?" = "1" ]; then mv $TMPFILE fullfilelist; fi', + command => 'rsync -aHz --numeric-ids --delete-after --exclude=".snapshot" --exclude="*/build-logs" buildsys.fedoraproject.org::epel/ /pub/epel/ &>/dev/null && TMPFILE=$(mktemp -p /tmp); pushd /pub/epel; find * -print > $TMPFILE; if diff $TMPFILE fullfilelist > /dev/null; then rm -f $TMPFILE; else mv $TMPFILE fullfilelist; fi', user => ftpsync, minute => [ 10, 40 ], ensure => present, Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nigjones at redhat.com Mon Feb 2 14:38:02 2009 From: nigjones at redhat.com (Nigel Jones) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:38:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: Change request: Another tmpfile fix In-Reply-To: <20090202143532.GH12229@sphe.res.cmu.edu> Message-ID: <1117133084.3514541233585482695.JavaMail.root@zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> +1 ----- "Ricky Zhou" wrote: > On 2009-02-02 09:31:08 AM, Ricky Zhou wrote: > > On 2009-02-02 08:53:29 AM, Ricky Zhou wrote: > > > On 2009-02-02 08:40:55 AM, Ricky Zhou wrote: > > > > Looks like there's a problem with the fullfilelist tmpfile > removal for > > > > EPEL as well. Can I get some +1s for this patch? > > > Actually, ignore that one. This might be a bit simpler: > > Oops, I forgot to fix the same problem in fedora-updates-push. > Here's > > the latest patch that include all of my changes: > Sorry again. I just realized that I reversed the if statement. > That's > what I get for not sleeping. Here the corrected version: > > diff --git a/configs/system/fedora-updates-push > b/configs/system/fedora-updates-push > index 8c09e27..380af87 100755 > --- a/configs/system/fedora-updates-push > +++ b/configs/system/fedora-updates-push > @@ -38,7 +38,8 @@ done > pushd /pub/fedora/ > TMPFILE=$(mktemp -p /tmp/) > find * -print > $TMPFILE > -diff $TMPFILE fullfilelist >/dev/null > -if [ "$?" = "1" ]; then > +if diff $TMPFILE fullfilelist > /dev/null; then > + rm -f $TMPFILE > +else > mv $TMPFILE fullfilelist > fi > diff --git a/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp > b/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp > index ca01522..b7c2b47 100644 > --- a/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp > +++ b/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp > @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ class mirrormaster { > } > > cron { epel-sync: > - command => 'rsync -aHz --numeric-ids --delete-after > --exclude=".snapshot" --exclude="*/build-logs" > buildsys.fedoraproject.org::epel/ /pub/epel/ &>/dev/null && > TMPFILE=`mktemp -p /tmp`; pushd /pub/epel; find * -print > $TMPFILE; > diff $TMPFILE fullfilelist >/dev/null; if [ "$?" = "1" ]; then mv > $TMPFILE fullfilelist; fi', > + command => 'rsync -aHz --numeric-ids --delete-after > --exclude=".snapshot" --exclude="*/build-logs" > buildsys.fedoraproject.org::epel/ /pub/epel/ &>/dev/null && > TMPFILE=$(mktemp -p /tmp); pushd /pub/epel; find * -print > $TMPFILE; > if diff $TMPFILE fullfilelist > /dev/null; then rm -f $TMPFILE; else > mv $TMPFILE fullfilelist; fi', > user => ftpsync, > minute => [ 10, 40 ], > ensure => present, > > Thanks, > Ricky > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list From jkeating at redhat.com Mon Feb 2 16:15:20 2009 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 08:15:20 -0800 Subject: Upgrading Fedora Hosted to Trac-0.11 In-Reply-To: <1233581785.27307.0.camel@rosebud> References: <1233555439.7493.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1233581785.27307.0.camel@rosebud> Message-ID: <1233591320.7493.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 08:36 -0500, seth vidal wrote: > > I'm willing to help, but I have to ask - would it make sense to hold > this until after F11 is out? I don't necessarily think so. If done right, the change is pretty unnoticeable to the end user, just one day they get more features. I think the only real risk wrt F11 is me spending too much time on Trac, which is why I'm asking for some help (: -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mmcgrath at redhat.com Mon Feb 2 17:11:33 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:11:33 -0600 (CST) Subject: Upgrading Fedora Hosted to Trac-0.11 In-Reply-To: <1233591320.7493.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1233555439.7493.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1233581785.27307.0.camel@rosebud> <1233591320.7493.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, 2 Feb 2009, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 08:36 -0500, seth vidal wrote: > > > > I'm willing to help, but I have to ask - would it make sense to hold > > this until after F11 is out? > > I don't necessarily think so. If done right, the change is pretty > unnoticeable to the end user, just one day they get more features. I > think the only real risk wrt F11 is me spending too much time on Trac, > which is why I'm asking for some help (: > After the alpha ships we can do a test upgrade on hosted2 for a project. If the tests and everything go ok we can do the rest and verify the upgrade produces no errors and warnings. The last upgrade was very smooth. It was pretty much a for f in * do the upgrade done -Mike From jkeating at redhat.com Mon Feb 2 18:19:56 2009 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:19:56 -0800 Subject: Upgrading Fedora Hosted to Trac-0.11 In-Reply-To: References: <1233555439.7493.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1233581785.27307.0.camel@rosebud> <1233591320.7493.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1233598796.7493.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 11:11 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: > > After the alpha ships we can do a test upgrade on hosted2 for a > project. > If the tests and everything go ok we can do the rest and verify the > upgrade produces no errors and warnings. The last upgrade was very > smooth. It was pretty much a > > for f in * > do > the upgrade > done We'll have to do some pre work, building trac-0.11 and then building any plugins that are still 3rd party for 0.11 as well. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mmcgrath at redhat.com Mon Feb 2 23:15:06 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:15:06 -0600 (CST) Subject: Security Policy Changes Message-ID: I've added some patches (mostly more better English :) to the security policy. I've also added an "Administrative Exceptions" section to deal with the following valid use-cases: - Password sharing (like that of the mailman admin password) - Role accounts (for Ian and our wiki bot account) - Policy for other non-user passwords (like those of our webapps contacting the database) Please comment on clarity and logic: http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/csi/security-policy/en-US/html-single/#EndUser-Standard-Admin-Exceptions -Mike From a.badger at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 23:21:35 2009 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:21:35 -0800 Subject: Can we share the login template? Message-ID: <49877FFF.1030506@gmail.com> Hey TG App authors, I've been working on fixing our CSRF problem and I've gotten a prototype FAS up and running. It requires only a few changes to the code you have in your application but one of those is in the login template. We have to run forward_url and previous_url through the tg.url() function in order for the csrf token to be added to the urls. Additionally, we can have a click-through page to authenticate a user who already has an active, authenticated session and only lacks a tg-visit. This needs to be added to the login template. I have a working template in fas. In the interest of making this transition as painless as possible I was thinking of adding it to the python-fedora package as well. The trouble is I don't know if it can be used verbatim in all of our apps. The fas login template, for instance, is written in genshi and has an wrote: > Hey TG App authors, > > I've been working on fixing our CSRF problem and I've gotten a > prototype > FAS up and running. It requires only a few changes to the code you > have > in your application but one of those is in the login template. We > have > to run forward_url and previous_url through the tg.url() function in > order for the csrf token to be added to the urls. Additionally, we > can > have a click-through page to authenticate a user who already has an > active, authenticated session and only lacks a tg-visit. This needs > to > be added to the login template. > > I have a working template in fas. In the interest of making this > transition as painless as possible I was thinking of adding it to the > python-fedora package as well. The trouble is I don't know if it can > be > used verbatim in all of our apps. The fas login template, for > instance, > is written in genshi and has an References: <1233624879.7493.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090203020854.GA8393@sphe.res.cmu.edu> On 2009-02-02 05:34:39 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > I noticed something while composing this release. Packages gotten from > kojipkgs (and thus the proxy) all have a timestamp of when the file was > downloaded, vs the timestamp of the file on the fileserver. This has > caused me some... frustration in getting my composes synced on the > master mirror using hardlinks to rawhide. > > Can somebody help me debug why this is? I'm not familiar with our squid > setup, and I couldn't find it in a quick wiki search for 'squid'. Oops, I cleared the Last-Modified headers in the configs hoping that it might somehow save some NFS load. Here's a patch to remove those lines - can I get two +1s? diff --git a/configs/system/fedora-updates-push b/configs/system/fedora-updates-push index 8c09e27..380af87 100755 --- a/configs/system/fedora-updates-push +++ b/configs/system/fedora-updates-push @@ -38,7 +38,8 @@ done pushd /pub/fedora/ TMPFILE=$(mktemp -p /tmp/) find * -print > $TMPFILE -diff $TMPFILE fullfilelist >/dev/null -if [ "$?" = "1" ]; then +if diff $TMPFILE fullfilelist > /dev/null; then + rm -f $TMPFILE +else mv $TMPFILE fullfilelist fi diff --git a/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp b/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp index ca01522..b7c2b47 100644 --- a/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp +++ b/manifests/services/mirrormaster.pp @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ class mirrormaster { } cron { epel-sync: - command => 'rsync -aHz --numeric-ids --delete-after --exclude=".snapshot" --exclude="*/build-logs" buildsys.fedoraproject.org::epel/ /pub/epel/ &>/dev/null && TMPFILE=`mktemp -p /tmp`; pushd /pub/epel; find * -print > $TMPFILE; diff $TMPFILE fullfilelist >/dev/null; if [ "$?" = "1" ]; then mv $TMPFILE fullfilelist; fi', + command => 'rsync -aHz --numeric-ids --delete-after --exclude=".snapshot" --exclude="*/build-logs" buildsys.fedoraproject.org::epel/ /pub/epel/ &>/dev/null && TMPFILE=$(mktemp -p /tmp); pushd /pub/epel; find * -print > $TMPFILE; if diff $TMPFILE fullfilelist > /dev/null; then rm -f $TMPFILE; else mv $TMPFILE fullfilelist; fi', user => ftpsync, minute => [ 10, 40 ], ensure => present, Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jkeating at redhat.com Tue Feb 3 02:09:22 2009 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:09:22 -0800 Subject: Change request: reenable last-modified (was Re: squid issues) In-Reply-To: <20090203020854.GA8393@sphe.res.cmu.edu> References: <1233624879.7493.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20090203020854.GA8393@sphe.res.cmu.edu> Message-ID: <1233626962.7493.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 21:08 -0500, Ricky Zhou wrote: > Oops, I cleared the Last-Modified headers in the configs hoping that it > might somehow save some NFS load. Here's a patch to remove those lines > - can I get two +1s? Wrong diff? -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ricky at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 3 02:15:09 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:15:09 -0500 Subject: Change request: reenable last-modified (was Re: squid issues) In-Reply-To: <20090203020854.GA8393@sphe.res.cmu.edu> References: <1233624879.7493.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20090203020854.GA8393@sphe.res.cmu.edu> Message-ID: <20090203021509.GB8393@sphe.res.cmu.edu> On 2009-02-02 09:08:54 PM, Ricky Zhou wrote: > On 2009-02-02 05:34:39 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > > I noticed something while composing this release. Packages gotten from > > kojipkgs (and thus the proxy) all have a timestamp of when the file was > > downloaded, vs the timestamp of the file on the fileserver. This has > > caused me some... frustration in getting my composes synced on the > > master mirror using hardlinks to rawhide. > > > > Can somebody help me debug why this is? I'm not familiar with our squid > > setup, and I couldn't find it in a quick wiki search for 'squid'. > Oops, I cleared the Last-Modified headers in the configs hoping that it > might somehow save some NFS load. Here's a patch to remove those lines > - can I get two +1s? I'm sorry, that was the wrong patch. Here is the right one: diff --git a/configs/web/applications/kojipkgs.conf b/configs/web/applications/kojipkgs.conf index 7077546..6ad116c 100644 --- a/configs/web/applications/kojipkgs.conf +++ b/configs/web/applications/kojipkgs.conf @@ -6,7 +6,6 @@ Alias /packages /mnt/koji/packages Options Indexes FileETag None - Header unset Last-Modified Alias /repos /mnt/koji/repos @@ -14,7 +13,6 @@ Alias /repos /mnt/koji/repos Options Indexes FileETag None - Header unset Last-Modified Alias /scratch /mnt/koji/scratch @@ -22,7 +20,6 @@ Alias /scratch /mnt/koji/scratch Options Indexes FileETag None - Header unset Last-Modified Alias /work /mnt/koji/work @@ -30,7 +27,6 @@ Alias /work /mnt/koji/work Options Indexes FileETag None - Header unset Last-Modified Alias /static-repos /mnt/koji/static-repos @@ -38,7 +34,6 @@ Alias /static-repos /mnt/koji/static-repos Options Indexes FollowSymLinks FileETag None - Header unset Last-Modified Alias /mash /mnt/koji/mash @@ -46,6 +41,5 @@ Alias /mash /mnt/koji/mash Options Indexes FollowSymLinks FileETag None - Header unset Last-Modified Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Feb 3 02:16:23 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:16:23 -0600 (CST) Subject: Change request: reenable last-modified (was Re: squid issues) In-Reply-To: <20090203021509.GB8393@sphe.res.cmu.edu> References: <1233624879.7493.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20090203020854.GA8393@sphe.res.cmu.edu> <20090203021509.GB8393@sphe.res.cmu.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 2 Feb 2009, Ricky Zhou wrote: > On 2009-02-02 09:08:54 PM, Ricky Zhou wrote: > > On 2009-02-02 05:34:39 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > I noticed something while composing this release. Packages gotten from > > > kojipkgs (and thus the proxy) all have a timestamp of when the file was > > > downloaded, vs the timestamp of the file on the fileserver. This has > > > caused me some... frustration in getting my composes synced on the > > > master mirror using hardlinks to rawhide. > > > > > > Can somebody help me debug why this is? I'm not familiar with our squid > > > setup, and I couldn't find it in a quick wiki search for 'squid'. > > Oops, I cleared the Last-Modified headers in the configs hoping that it > > might somehow save some NFS load. Here's a patch to remove those lines > > - can I get two +1s? > I'm sorry, that was the wrong patch. Here is the right one: > > diff --git a/configs/web/applications/kojipkgs.conf b/configs/web/applications/kojipkgs.conf > index 7077546..6ad116c 100644 > --- a/configs/web/applications/kojipkgs.conf > +++ b/configs/web/applications/kojipkgs.conf > @@ -6,7 +6,6 @@ Alias /packages /mnt/koji/packages > > Options Indexes > FileETag None > - Header unset Last-Modified > > > Alias /repos /mnt/koji/repos > @@ -14,7 +13,6 @@ Alias /repos /mnt/koji/repos > > Options Indexes > FileETag None > - Header unset Last-Modified > > > Alias /scratch /mnt/koji/scratch > @@ -22,7 +20,6 @@ Alias /scratch /mnt/koji/scratch > > Options Indexes > FileETag None > - Header unset Last-Modified > > > Alias /work /mnt/koji/work > @@ -30,7 +27,6 @@ Alias /work /mnt/koji/work > > Options Indexes > FileETag None > - Header unset Last-Modified > > > Alias /static-repos /mnt/koji/static-repos > @@ -38,7 +34,6 @@ Alias /static-repos /mnt/koji/static-repos > > Options Indexes FollowSymLinks > FileETag None > - Header unset Last-Modified > > > Alias /mash /mnt/koji/mash > @@ -46,6 +41,5 @@ Alias /mash /mnt/koji/mash > > Options Indexes FollowSymLinks > FileETag None > - Header unset Last-Modified > > +1 from me. -Mike From skvidal at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 3 02:17:46 2009 From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (seth vidal) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:17:46 -0500 Subject: Change request: reenable last-modified (was Re: squid issues) In-Reply-To: <20090203021509.GB8393@sphe.res.cmu.edu> References: <1233624879.7493.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20090203020854.GA8393@sphe.res.cmu.edu> <20090203021509.GB8393@sphe.res.cmu.edu> Message-ID: <1233627466.27307.24.camel@rosebud> On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 21:15 -0500, Ricky Zhou wrote: > On 2009-02-02 09:08:54 PM, Ricky Zhou wrote: > > On 2009-02-02 05:34:39 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > I noticed something while composing this release. Packages gotten from > > > kojipkgs (and thus the proxy) all have a timestamp of when the file was > > > downloaded, vs the timestamp of the file on the fileserver. This has > > > caused me some... frustration in getting my composes synced on the > > > master mirror using hardlinks to rawhide. > > > > > > Can somebody help me debug why this is? I'm not familiar with our squid > > > setup, and I couldn't find it in a quick wiki search for 'squid'. > > Oops, I cleared the Last-Modified headers in the configs hoping that it > > might somehow save some NFS load. Here's a patch to remove those lines > > - can I get two +1s? > I'm sorry, that was the wrong patch. Here is the right one: > > diff --git a/configs/web/applications/kojipkgs.conf b/configs/web/applications/kojipkgs.conf > index 7077546..6ad116c 100644 > --- a/configs/web/applications/kojipkgs.conf > +++ b/configs/web/applications/kojipkgs.conf > @@ -6,7 +6,6 @@ Alias /packages /mnt/koji/packages > > Options Indexes > FileETag None > - Header unset Last-Modified > > > Alias /repos /mnt/koji/repos > @@ -14,7 +13,6 @@ Alias /repos /mnt/koji/repos > > Options Indexes > FileETag None > - Header unset Last-Modified > > > Alias /scratch /mnt/koji/scratch > @@ -22,7 +20,6 @@ Alias /scratch /mnt/koji/scratch > > Options Indexes > FileETag None > - Header unset Last-Modified > > > Alias /work /mnt/koji/work > @@ -30,7 +27,6 @@ Alias /work /mnt/koji/work > > Options Indexes > FileETag None > - Header unset Last-Modified > > > Alias /static-repos /mnt/koji/static-repos > @@ -38,7 +34,6 @@ Alias /static-repos /mnt/koji/static-repos > > Options Indexes FollowSymLinks > FileETag None > - Header unset Last-Modified > > > Alias /mash /mnt/koji/mash > @@ -46,6 +41,5 @@ Alias /mash /mnt/koji/mash > > Options Indexes FollowSymLinks > FileETag None > - Header unset Last-Modified > > +1 -sv From mmcgrath at redhat.com Wed Feb 4 20:09:26 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:09:26 -0600 (CST) Subject: Change Request ssh_known_hosts Message-ID: The staging environment was rebuilt recently but not updated in ssh_known_hosts. This patch updates those keys (its a bit rough to read so its attached) Can I get 2+1's? This is a global change. -Mike -------------- next part -------------- diff --git a/modules/ssh/files/ssh_known_hosts b/modules/ssh/files/ssh_known_hosts index 787fb86..3eb3e86 100644 --- a/modules/ssh/files/ssh_known_hosts +++ b/modules/ssh/files/ssh_known_hosts @@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ app4,10.8.34.48 ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABIwAAAQEA0cbc0AhUL0vAhKZz7QrPNeJ/o8y1 app5,192.168.1.13 ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABIwAAAQEAr38n4Jf0quJPlSQOjnQJke5UxGmdKRor3eL+PrTHvOCeQC3Vq97Uy7yj4P684CHvC8ayEom22A5uFg6M5g/Owc0sRlZLK7xqd6xesZJ9lb3BBVVK1sP5JX8HqAbc3nbK+3W81I1zoMuu9rrZhUh3/dqippfqQfyHI9bQxqcWrbJK/b9P+44lfCoaVtK06Zvm7W6Ngp2VGNR8NsV2RUNP3wVd4Os2sEI95q13LRhKxlPAeQ2d4NAHPAVymSlXKGseUi5dq6afq+gV17UgvP8lJqzgoZB8QeXdjUhRt1PBXoINOwoXlnr9+hh10DgaABPWZH2eoFlLVbd9ptUxCfcofw== app6,192.168.1.24 ssh-rsa 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AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABIwAAAQEA8Ugvsm2NjI8LtvbeuGZcrePE2NEk4QmyjcTsitFyf5dEQ5X6Kh76eSe7zUN4y5WCSg3feaRJ3V9CU1bpRSZJQXQ2CKSVosfE+6DzTDpdtsVP0wk/ljezR+ws55RvT3zdQGFEM/PUK0PZgKQ6m2iAR7KrxuU/QgvnFRvXDLa5k8AFpVIah8aB+OKhD8MW9eIK7h0UcwkVO//Eg5/oEsPLCmiq0Pv9vdM56lsCE/kVBEJYwYEkGdPqKpratFMvpylBXSL1pHv/kgSHlkohJWxO6Z3T2PoVDn9sSHk3a0+enEbZFc5J6YFY8Nl6UxUW3yn6KL82TMNv/ZX01rsRpurs1w== proxy4,192.168.1.14 ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABIwAAAQEA1Tvuf9rxO2q69x7/ShRfMgDDD4AjKK8mqKiGovlhrjrIHABuqoX87N/UIy2AkorPyIXKrsbfEN39h/sDNre2svAO+bPrdFemgbciKav8VEZQ+I8A2rGlNo+djh6MM/r6JQ+eA3hgQmK2vQqLkK49WVzJTL+eTpH4Uik4WAesPrrsJhwTnHxj9x92fo58gxs3fBtwM4tpAFcXuRkew1FLJL1h4FesZ360Nr+UuHu2pt7ZWGMEuJje56+hyvuMI3Q/yNaCtE4iMrg001KuF3qjwGVGywrPC9MlitG/ktwCEGhneYr508JxZtwp/VoBsZtD9gew9gkHQBK0e20ZGU3zkQ== From katzj at redhat.com Wed Feb 4 20:10:38 2009 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:10:38 -0500 Subject: Change Request ssh_known_hosts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090204201038.GA24705@redhat.com> On Wednesday, February 04 2009, Mike McGrath said: > The staging environment was rebuilt recently but not updated in > ssh_known_hosts. This patch updates those keys (its a bit rough to read > so its attached) > > Can I get 2+1's? This is a global change. I'll trust that you're using the right keys gathered by running directly on the console of the machine; +1 Jeremy From skvidal at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 4 20:12:36 2009 From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (seth vidal) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:12:36 -0500 Subject: Change Request ssh_known_hosts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1233778356.3238.23.camel@rosebud> On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 14:09 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: > The staging environment was rebuilt recently but not updated in > ssh_known_hosts. This patch updates those keys (its a bit rough to read > so its attached) > > Can I get 2+1's? This is a global change. > +1 -sv From stickster at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 00:09:35 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:09:35 -0500 Subject: Local community domains Message-ID: <20090205000935.GI4977@localhost.localdomain> Hello Infrastructure team, We occasionally have local communities that want to set up supporting sites for spreading Fedora in their region. They might offer localized forums or other assistance that helps them spread Fedora in their respective locales. Red Hat indicated they would be willing to purchase a domain for Fedora that we could maintain on behalf of these local communities. They purchased "fedoracommunity.org" on behalf of the local communities, so if we're approached by someone looking for a domain, we can assign a subdomain like "xx.fedoracommunity.org". Mike McGrath worked with us to establish an acceptable way to do this, but we probably should have a procedure that makes the process acceptable for the Infrastructure team. I've started drafting a wiki page here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Local_community_domains I'd appreciate it if interested parties would review and then edit the page, or put input on its Talk page. I want to end up with a clear process for a community member to follow to request and receive a community domain. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Finally, run sudo func proxy\* call command run \ "/usr/local/bin/syncFiles.sh fedoraproject.org \ /srv/web/fedoraproject.org/" to make the proxies pull the new website. After this, it may be a good idea to clear the proxy caches by removing the contents of /srv/cache/mod_cache on proxy[1-5]. If any last-minute changes are required after this, commit/push it the the fedora-web repo, then re-run syncStatic.sh and the func command. Sorry I won't be around, and good luck tomorrow! Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From extremoburo at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 11:50:36 2009 From: extremoburo at gmail.com (Fabrizio Buratta) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:50:36 +0100 Subject: get Fedora puppet modules Message-ID: <48e871f70902050350w51aab48aq7160666c42688ed2@mail.gmail.com> Hi all! Is it possible to get the fedora infrastructure puppet modules? If so, how to get them? Thanks -- Fab From mmcgrath at redhat.com Thu Feb 5 15:27:26 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:27:26 -0600 (CST) Subject: get Fedora puppet modules In-Reply-To: <48e871f70902050350w51aab48aq7160666c42688ed2@mail.gmail.com> References: <48e871f70902050350w51aab48aq7160666c42688ed2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Fabrizio Buratta wrote: > Hi all! > > Is it possible to get the fedora infrastructure puppet modules? > > If so, how to get them? > We don't currently publish them but we have plans to. If you're interested in specific modules let me know and I can make sure to get them to you. The main issue is ensuring they're properly sanatized. We used to store passwords in configs and manifests way back when. Also we do some things in a messy way still, I'd hate to give people the idea that its the right way to do it :) -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Thu Feb 5 15:46:45 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:46:45 -0600 (CST) Subject: Announcing Fedora 11 Alpha (blink) (fwd) Message-ID: Bored at work? Tired fo the freeze? Test the alpha! Its not a privilege, its a responsiblity :) -Mike -------------- next part -------------- To blink or not to blink: that is the question; Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer The slings and arrows of outrageous users, Or to take arms against a see of power drains. And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep; No more: and by a sleep to say we suspend. Ok enough of that. The Fedora project is proud to present the availability of Fedora 11 (Leonidas) Alpha. Now is the time to test, now is the time to improve. The Alpha release provides the first opportunity for the wider community to become involved with testing Fedora 11 by way of Rawhide: Alpha represents a sanitized snapshot of rawhide, Fedora's development branch, which undergoes rapid changes before becoming the next major release. * The Alpha should boot on the majority of systems, and provides: * A look at what new features are to be included in the next release * A way to provide feedback and bug reports to help ensure that the next release is as good as possible For information about what new and wonderful things Alpha brings us, please check out the release notes: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Alpha_release_notes What to test Test status is being tracked here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_Alpha_Install_Test_Results Check out this page before reporting problems, including looking through the bug trackers as linked on that page. Get the Alpha http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-prerelease (Please bear in mind that our mirrors are still picking up the permission change and you may get a few permission denied messages while this happens this morning) Join Fedora To find ways you can help and participate, visit: http://join.fedoraproject.org/ -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank-you anyway. ;-) -- Carlos Vassalo (opossum1er) French fedora ambassador opossum1er at fedoraproject.org GPG fingerprint : 1E38 D153 476F C831 0CF6 0A6A 2E7A 992F 8958 8851 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From kolesov_dv at mail.ru Thu Feb 5 15:45:15 2009 From: kolesov_dv at mail.ru (=?koi8-r?Q?=E4=CD=C9=D4=D2=C9=CA_=EB=CF=CC=C5=D3=CF=D7?=) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:45:15 +0300 Subject: Introduction In-Reply-To: <20090205073948.BC71E61ABE6@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20090205073948.BC71E61ABE6@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: Hello, my name is Dmitry Kolesov and I would like to join the Infrastructure group. I have been a Linux sysadmin for several years. I have experience with bash, Python, C/C++, PHP, MySQL, MS SQL. I have workstations with Fedora and CentOS in my work. From awilliam at redhat.com Thu Feb 5 21:30:07 2009 From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:30:07 -0500 Subject: Calendaring system? Message-ID: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> Hi, guys. Uh, quick intro for those who see the redhat.com and wonder who I am - I'm Adam Williamson. I'm new in the Fedora QA department here at RH, my job is to drive community involvement in Fedora QA. I came over from Mandriva where I was the community manager. I'll be working from my home in Vancouver, Canada. I'm new on the list so this may have come up before, in which case apologies :). Something I thought would be nice to have for QA community is a public calendar system where dates of events like test days can be published. Obviously it's silly for me personally or the QA team to take on the job of hosting a calendar server, but it was suggested that it would be a good project for the infrastructure team, and other groups within Fedora could probably benefit from it. Does it sound like a good idea? Anyone want to have a go? Or is there something already, that I don't know about? Thanks! -- adamw From mmcgrath at redhat.com Thu Feb 5 21:38:09 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 15:38:09 -0600 (CST) Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi, guys. Uh, quick intro for those who see the redhat.com and wonder > who I am - I'm Adam Williamson. I'm new in the Fedora QA department here > at RH, my job is to drive community involvement in Fedora QA. I came > over from Mandriva where I was the community manager. I'll be working > from my home in Vancouver, Canada. > > I'm new on the list so this may have come up before, in which case > apologies :). Something I thought would be nice to have for QA community > is a public calendar system where dates of events like test days can be > published. Obviously it's silly for me personally or the QA team to take > on the job of hosting a calendar server, but it was suggested that it > would be a good project for the infrastructure team, and other groups > within Fedora could probably benefit from it. Does it sound like a good > idea? Anyone want to have a go? Or is there something already, that I > don't know about? Thanks! > -- This is something that has been discussed a few times in the past but no one has volunteered to put together I'm afraid. It'd be a good project to have up and going though. -Mike From awilliam at redhat.com Thu Feb 5 21:40:35 2009 From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:40:35 -0500 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> Message-ID: <1233870035.9993.503.camel@vaio.local.net> On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 15:38 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > Hi, guys. Uh, quick intro for those who see the redhat.com and wonder > > who I am - I'm Adam Williamson. I'm new in the Fedora QA department here > > at RH, my job is to drive community involvement in Fedora QA. I came > > over from Mandriva where I was the community manager. I'll be working > > from my home in Vancouver, Canada. > > > > I'm new on the list so this may have come up before, in which case > > apologies :). Something I thought would be nice to have for QA community > > is a public calendar system where dates of events like test days can be > > published. Obviously it's silly for me personally or the QA team to take > > on the job of hosting a calendar server, but it was suggested that it > > would be a good project for the infrastructure team, and other groups > > within Fedora could probably benefit from it. Does it sound like a good > > idea? Anyone want to have a go? Or is there something already, that I > > don't know about? Thanks! > > -- > > This is something that has been discussed a few times in the past but no > one has volunteered to put together I'm afraid. It'd be a good project to > have up and going though. Thanks a lot, Mike. Would it maybe help if I at least do some evaluatin' of the available software? I'm happy to do one-time stuff like that, it's the long-term commitment of *maintaining* the running server that I don't think it makes sense to house over here. Thanks! -- adamw From simon at zikula.org Thu Feb 5 21:53:01 2009 From: simon at zikula.org (Simon Birtwistle) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:53:01 -0000 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> Message-ID: <037801c987dc$1e6af250$5b40d6f0$@org> There are a few Calendar modules for Zikula (the CMS I'm setting up to run docs.fp.o) that might suit your needs - worth considering in the longer term should the CMS prove to be a success? Simon > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora- > infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Adam Williamson > Sent: 05 February 2009 21:30 > To: fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > Subject: Calendaring system? > > Hi, guys. Uh, quick intro for those who see the redhat.com and wonder > who I am - I'm Adam Williamson. I'm new in the Fedora QA department > here > at RH, my job is to drive community involvement in Fedora QA. I came > over from Mandriva where I was the community manager. I'll be working > from my home in Vancouver, Canada. > > I'm new on the list so this may have come up before, in which case > apologies :). Something I thought would be nice to have for QA > community > is a public calendar system where dates of events like test days can be > published. Obviously it's silly for me personally or the QA team to > take > on the job of hosting a calendar server, but it was suggested that it > would be a good project for the infrastructure team, and other groups > within Fedora could probably benefit from it. Does it sound like a good > idea? Anyone want to have a go? Or is there something already, that I > don't know about? Thanks! > -- > adamw > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1935 - Release Date: > 02/04/09 16:35:00 From awilliam at redhat.com Thu Feb 5 22:01:58 2009 From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:01:58 -0500 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: <037801c987dc$1e6af250$5b40d6f0$@org> References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <037801c987dc$1e6af250$5b40d6f0$@org> Message-ID: <1233871318.9993.560.camel@vaio.local.net> On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 21:53 +0000, Simon Birtwistle wrote: > There are a few Calendar modules for Zikula (the CMS I'm setting up to run > docs.fp.o) that might suit your needs - worth considering in the longer term > should the CMS prove to be a success? I'll take a look, thanks for the pointer. The needs for us are, I think, pretty simple. It needs to work as a simple calendaring system - you can just use it as a calendar, nothing more, nothing less, if you don't want anything else - into which you can do all the usual calendar stuff, schedule events. The only other significant requirement for me is that it support CalDAV, because it's important to allow people to access it through other clients and calendar systems so that it doesn't become yet another damn thing they have to look at separately. I would be accessing the calendar from Evolution, for e.g., along with my personal calendar and other shared calendars I have going. -- adamw From mmcgrath at redhat.com Thu Feb 5 22:57:21 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:57:21 -0600 (CST) Subject: Interesting mirror rediness results for alpha Message-ID: So, I've been monitoring the mirrors all day, its been sort of a manual process (thus the sporadic times there). I'm going to re-run this for the beta and continue to run it for the alpha but the results are not at all what I expected: http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/alphaMirrorRediness.html So the 10:00 AM portion is when we announced the alpha. People coming to the mirrors would have had a less then 10% hit rate. It went up from there mostly and wasn't until hours later that we saw a big spike upwards (after a mirror crawl completed). What I don't understand is why we've actually started losing mirrors. We were almost at 90% hit rate for a bit today, and now we're back down to just above 60. Any theories? I'm going to keep monitoring. Feel free to monitor yourself. I've basically been going to: http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/11-Alpha/Fedora/i386/iso/ And seeing if it comes up with a found or not found/perm denied. I'm going to think on my methods a bit. Currently I'm just running wget's in a loop for 5+ minutes at a time and taking the total number of 200's / total requests * 100. -Mike From jkeating at redhat.com Thu Feb 5 23:00:57 2009 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:00:57 -0800 Subject: Interesting mirror rediness results for alpha In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1233874857.7493.1196.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 16:57 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: > What I don't understand is why we've actually started losing mirrors. We > were almost at 90% hit rate for a bit today, and now we're back down to > just above 60. Any theories? I'm going to keep monitoring. Feel free to > monitor yourself. I've basically been going to: That one is easy. As mirrors get swarmed by users, they start refusing connections or just timing out. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mmcgrath at redhat.com Thu Feb 5 23:26:39 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 17:26:39 -0600 (CST) Subject: Interesting mirror rediness results for alpha In-Reply-To: <1233874857.7493.1196.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1233874857.7493.1196.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 16:57 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: > > What I don't understand is why we've actually started losing mirrors. We > > were almost at 90% hit rate for a bit today, and now we're back down to > > just above 60. Any theories? I'm going to keep monitoring. Feel free to > > monitor yourself. I've basically been going to: > > That one is easy. As mirrors get swarmed by users, they start refusing > connections or just timing out. > Ehh, The trick there is I don't think they're actually getting swarmed. None of my tests have been timing out or refusing connections, mostly 403's and some 404's. It could be mirrors refusing through a 403 but from what I've seen, the mirrors throwing a 403, throw a 200 OK for the F10 release. -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Thu Feb 5 23:52:22 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 17:52:22 -0600 (CST) Subject: Change Request Message-ID: If this get's +1'd tonight I'll do it tonight, if not I'll wait till tomorrow. Karsten had a request for the docs site to be updated more often. We'd initially lowered it because of a request of one of our sponsors. It was running hourly, during that time it did a 400M transfer so it produced noticeable load spikes. I've altered the script to keep a cache. Please comment (attached) +1's? -Mike -------------- next part -------------- diff --git a/configs/web/applications/docs-sync b/configs/web/applications/docs-sync index 5ce1850..e60057c 100644 --- a/configs/web/applications/docs-sync +++ b/configs/web/applications/docs-sync @@ -1,12 +1,50 @@ -#!/bin/sh - -TMPFILE=`mktemp -dp /var/tmp docs.XXXXXXXXXX` || exit 1 -cd $TMPFILE +#!/bin/sh +CACHEDIR='/var/cache/docsSite/' export CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous at cvs.fedora.redhat.com:/cvs/fedora -cvs co -r LIVE web > /dev/null 2>&1 + +function cleanlock() +{ + /bin/rm -f /var/lock/$1.lock +} + + +function quit() +{ + echo $1 + if [ $2 ] + then + cleanlock $2 + fi + exit 2 +} + +function newlock() +{ + if [ -f /var/lock/$1.lock ] + then + quit "Lockfile exists.. Remove /var/lock/$1.lock" + else + touch /var/lock/$1.lock + fi +} + +newlock docSync +if [ ! -d $CACHEDIR ] +then + echo "CACHEDIR missing" + mkdir $CACHEDIR + cd $CACHEDIR + cvs co -r LIVE web > /dev/null 2>&1 +fi + + +cd $CACHEDIR + +cvs up -d LIVE web > /dev/null 2>&1 cd web sed -i s/project-web/web/g Makefile +echo starting build make tree > /dev/null 2>&1 cd fedoraweb /bin/mkdir -p /srv/web/docs/css/ @@ -19,6 +57,8 @@ cd fedoraweb # For bug #65 rm -rf /srv/web/docs/package-list/ -rm -rf $TMPFILE -/sbin/restorecon -R /srv/web +/sbin/restorecon -R /srv/web/docs/ +/sbin/restorecon -R /srv/web/rhold/ +cleanlock docSync + diff --git a/configs/web/applications/docs-sync.cron b/configs/web/applications/docs-sync.cron index 2a390ec..e0dede2 100644 --- a/configs/web/applications/docs-sync.cron +++ b/configs/web/applications/docs-sync.cron @@ -1 +1 @@ -05 12 * * * root /root/bin/docs-sync > /dev/null 2> /dev/null +05 01,07,14,21 * * * root /root/bin/docs-sync > /dev/null 2> /dev/null From herlo1 at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 01:51:03 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:51:03 -0700 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: <1233871318.9993.560.camel@vaio.local.net> References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <037801c987dc$1e6af250$5b40d6f0$@org> <1233871318.9993.560.camel@vaio.local.net> Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 21:53 +0000, Simon Birtwistle wrote: >> There are a few Calendar modules for Zikula (the CMS I'm setting up to run >> docs.fp.o) that might suit your needs - worth considering in the longer term >> should the CMS prove to be a success? > > I'll take a look, thanks for the pointer. The needs for us are, I think, > pretty simple. It needs to work as a simple calendaring system - you can > just use it as a calendar, nothing more, nothing less, if you don't want > anything else - into which you can do all the usual calendar stuff, > schedule events. The only other significant requirement for me is that > it support CalDAV, because it's important to allow people to access it > through other clients and calendar systems so that it doesn't become yet > another damn thing they have to look at separately. I would be accessing > the calendar from Evolution, for e.g., along with my personal calendar > and other shared calendars I have going. > -- > adamw Adam, Funny thing, I was just mentioning how it would be nice to have a calendaring solution that would be able to let people pull feeds and put items on the calendar for Fedora with use in FAS. I think even though there's currently no solution quite as good as google calendar (or apple's iCal) in free software, there are alternatives. Bongo Project - http://bongo-project.org/Main_Page (formerly Hula) (GPLv2) Bedework - http://www.bedework.org/bedework/ (BSD License) DAViCal - http://rscds.sourceforge.net/ (GPL) I'm sure there are others, but I think a self-sustaining calendar that could integrate with the Fedora Account System (FAS) and make it so that people can create events that could get pushed to a central calendar which others might subscribe. Something like this would be awesome and I'd be happy to help you get it started. Maybe one of the above programs can meet our needs, or maybe we need to look into something else. Cheers, Clint From jeff at ocjtech.us Fri Feb 6 03:27:21 2009 From: jeff at ocjtech.us (Jeffrey Ollie) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:27:21 -0600 Subject: Change request: make ping and traceroute tools work from Zabbix dashboard Message-ID: <935ead450902051927xf47ffadha90356fb96b1f3ea@mail.gmail.com> The ping and traceroute tools in the Zabbix dashboard do not work because the web front end does not know how to connect to the Zabbix server to initiate the commands. The following patch adds that configuration as well as tweaks a selinux boolean. The Zabbix web front end runs on the app servers so this is affected by the change freeze. The impact should be minor, reverting should be relatively easy in case of problems. diff --git a/manifests/servergroups/appRhel.pp b/manifests/servergroups/appRhel.pp index e43b275..a68b396 100644 --- a/manifests/servergroups/appRhel.pp +++ b/manifests/servergroups/appRhel.pp @@ -58,6 +58,7 @@ class appRhel { } ## SElinux + selinux_bool { 'httpd_can_network_connect': bool => 'on' } selinux_bool { 'httpd_can_network_connect_db': bool => 'on' } selinux_bool { 'httpd_can_network_relay': bool => 'on' } selinux_bool { 'httpd_enable_homedirs': bool => 'on' } diff --git a/modules/zabbix/templates/zabbix.conf.php.erb b/modules/zabbix/templates/zabbix.conf.php.erb index c2cae5b..8486cf4 100644 --- a/modules/zabbix/templates/zabbix.conf.php.erb +++ b/modules/zabbix/templates/zabbix.conf.php.erb @@ -28,4 +28,8 @@ $DB_USER = "zabbix"; $DB_PASSWORD = "<%= zabbixPassword %>"; $IMAGE_FORMAT_DEFAULT = IMAGE_FORMAT_PNG; + +$ZBX_SERVER = "noc1.fedora.phx.redhat.com"; +$ZBX_SERVER_PORT = "10051"; + ?> -- Jeff Ollie "You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe." -- Marcus to Franklin in Babylon 5: "A Late Delivery from Avalon" From ricky at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 6 04:56:55 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 23:56:55 -0500 Subject: Change Request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090206045655.GB27095@sphe.res.cmu.edu> On 2009-02-05 05:52:22 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > If this get's +1'd tonight I'll do it tonight, if not I'll wait till > tomorrow. > > Karsten had a request for the docs site to be updated more often. We'd > initially lowered it because of a request of one of our sponsors. It was > running hourly, during that time it did a 400M transfer so it produced > noticeable load spikes. > > I've altered the script to keep a cache. Please comment (attached) > > +1's? +1 Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ricky at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 6 04:57:30 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 23:57:30 -0500 Subject: Change request: make ping and traceroute tools work from Zabbix dashboard In-Reply-To: <935ead450902051927xf47ffadha90356fb96b1f3ea@mail.gmail.com> References: <935ead450902051927xf47ffadha90356fb96b1f3ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090206045730.GC27095@sphe.res.cmu.edu> On 2009-02-05 09:27:21 PM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > The ping and traceroute tools in the Zabbix dashboard do not work > because the web front end does not know how to connect to the Zabbix > server to initiate the commands. The following patch adds that > configuration as well as tweaks a selinux boolean. The Zabbix web > front end runs on the app servers so this is affected by the change > freeze. The impact should be minor, reverting should be relatively > easy in case of problems. +1 Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From a.badger at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 06:10:01 2009 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:10:01 -0800 Subject: Change request: make ping and traceroute tools work from Zabbix dashboard In-Reply-To: <935ead450902051927xf47ffadha90356fb96b1f3ea@mail.gmail.com> References: <935ead450902051927xf47ffadha90356fb96b1f3ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <498BD439.8060603@gmail.com> Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > The ping and traceroute tools in the Zabbix dashboard do not work > because the web front end does not know how to connect to the Zabbix > server to initiate the commands. The following patch adds that > configuration as well as tweaks a selinux boolean. The Zabbix web > front end runs on the app servers so this is affected by the change > freeze. The impact should be minor, reverting should be relatively > easy in case of problems. > > diff --git a/manifests/servergroups/appRhel.pp > b/manifests/servergroups/appRhel.pp > index e43b275..a68b396 100644 > --- a/manifests/servergroups/appRhel.pp > +++ b/manifests/servergroups/appRhel.pp > @@ -58,6 +58,7 @@ class appRhel { > } > > ## SElinux > + selinux_bool { 'httpd_can_network_connect': bool => 'on' } > selinux_bool { 'httpd_can_network_connect_db': bool => 'on' } > selinux_bool { 'httpd_can_network_relay': bool => 'on' } > selinux_bool { 'httpd_enable_homedirs': bool => 'on' } > diff --git a/modules/zabbix/templates/zabbix.conf.php.erb > b/modules/zabbix/templates/zabbix.conf.php.erb > index c2cae5b..8486cf4 100644 > --- a/modules/zabbix/templates/zabbix.conf.php.erb > +++ b/modules/zabbix/templates/zabbix.conf.php.erb > @@ -28,4 +28,8 @@ $DB_USER = "zabbix"; > $DB_PASSWORD = "<%= zabbixPassword %>"; > > $IMAGE_FORMAT_DEFAULT = IMAGE_FORMAT_PNG; > + > +$ZBX_SERVER = "noc1.fedora.phx.redhat.com"; > +$ZBX_SERVER_PORT = "10051"; > + > ?> > +1 -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe." -- Marcus to Franklin in Babylon 5: "A Late Delivery from Avalon" From mmcgrath at redhat.com Fri Feb 6 15:56:37 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:56:37 -0600 (CST) Subject: More active role in QA Message-ID: I'd like to see our infrastructure team take a more active role in QA during pre-release times. What did I have in mind? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_Alpha_Install_Test_Results We've got a lot of smart people on this list, so I figure I'll just nag people about it :) -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Fri Feb 6 16:23:50 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:23:50 -0600 (CST) Subject: Interesting mirror rediness results for alpha In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Mike McGrath wrote: > So, I've been monitoring the mirrors all day, its been sort of a manual > process (thus the sporadic times there). I'm going to re-run this for the > beta and continue to run it for the alpha but the results are not at all > what I expected: > > http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/alphaMirrorRediness.html > > So the 10:00 AM portion is when we announced the alpha. People coming to > the mirrors would have had a less then 10% hit rate. It went up from > there mostly and wasn't until hours later that we saw a big spike upwards > (after a mirror crawl completed). > > What I don't understand is why we've actually started losing mirrors. We > were almost at 90% hit rate for a bit today, and now we're back down to > just above 60. Any theories? I'm going to keep monitoring. Feel free to > monitor yourself. I've basically been going to: > > http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/11-Alpha/Fedora/i386/iso/ > > And seeing if it comes up with a found or not found/perm denied. I'm > going to think on my methods a bit. Currently I'm just running wget's in > a loop for 5+ minutes at a time and taking the total number of 200's / > total requests * 100. > So here's the first 24 hours: http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/alphaMirrorRediness.html From hassonofer at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 17:33:19 2009 From: hassonofer at gmail.com (Ofer Hasson) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 19:33:19 +0200 Subject: More active role in QA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <32fd46d0902060933s6be70ffco1c93e788e798d210@mail.gmail.com> Hello, I didn't introduce myself yet, because i'm really busy these days and unfortunately i cant help much. But i did test one or two items from the QA list that have been posted. I have read the instruction and notes. should i just edit the wiki now ? i'm not really familiar with the way of work here... Anyway my name is Ofer Hasson, i hope i can start helping around May. I'll be happy to help if i can, i will introduce myself properly when i'll have more free time. Thanks all, and sorry for my poor english On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > I'd like to see our infrastructure team take a more active role in QA > during pre-release times. What did I have in mind? > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_Alpha_Install_Test_Results > > We've got a lot of smart people on this list, so I figure I'll just nag > people about it :) > > -Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmcgrath at redhat.com Fri Feb 6 18:45:12 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 12:45:12 -0600 (CST) Subject: More active role in QA In-Reply-To: <32fd46d0902060933s6be70ffco1c93e788e798d210@mail.gmail.com> References: <32fd46d0902060933s6be70ffco1c93e788e798d210@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Ofer Hasson wrote: > Hello, > I didn't introduce myself yet, because i'm really busy these days and unfortunately i cant help much. But i did test one > or two items from the QA list that have been posted. I have read the instruction and notes. > should i just edit the wiki now ? i'm not really familiar with the way of work here... > AFAIK, thats what I've been doing. I click on the test if it has specific instructions, if they work right I fill out that box with my username. > Anyway my name is Ofer Hasson, i hope i can start helping around May. I'll be happy to help if i can, i will introduce > myself properly when i'll have more free time. > Welcome Ofer! -Mike From awilliam at redhat.com Fri Feb 6 19:28:30 2009 From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:28:30 -0500 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <037801c987dc$1e6af250$5b40d6f0$@org> <1233871318.9993.560.camel@vaio.local.net> Message-ID: <1233948510.12681.509.camel@vaio.local.net> On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 18:51 -0700, Clint Savage wrote: > Adam, > > Funny thing, I was just mentioning how it would be nice to have a > calendaring solution that would be able to let people pull feeds and > put items on the calendar for Fedora with use in FAS. I think even > though there's currently no solution quite as good as google calendar > (or apple's iCal) in free software, there are alternatives. > > Bongo Project - http://bongo-project.org/Main_Page (formerly Hula) (GPLv2) > Bedework - http://www.bedework.org/bedework/ (BSD License) > DAViCal - http://rscds.sourceforge.net/ (GPL) > > I'm sure there are others, but I think a self-sustaining calendar that > could integrate with the Fedora Account System (FAS) and make it so > that people can create events that could get pushed to a central > calendar which others might subscribe. Something like this would be > awesome and I'd be happy to help you get it started. Maybe one of the > above programs can meet our needs, or maybe we need to look into > something else. Thanks a lot, Clint. Actually one of our QA community guys, J?hann Gu?mundsson, independently suggested Bedework to me and I had a quick look at the web page and it looks nice. It runs in Java but I guess that's no problem if it works on OpenJDK, and it looks like it's nice and self-contained, actively developed, and seems to really work to implement the latest standards, so it looks like a good candidate to me. I haven't looked at the others you suggested yet, but I will. I'm happy to help out as much as I can - I'm no expert in this field - in the initial set up, my only concern is to make sure that this is something the infrastructure group will maintain over a sustained period, I'm just hoping that it won't fall by the wayside and stop working after a few months or wind up with me having to (try and) maintain it or something. But I'm certainly happy to help out in getting it up and running and fit for purpose initially. -- adamw From jlaska at redhat.com Fri Feb 6 19:37:59 2009 From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:37:59 -0500 Subject: More active role in QA In-Reply-To: References: <32fd46d0902060933s6be70ffco1c93e788e798d210@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1233949079.3499.49.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 12:45 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: > > Hello, > > I didn't introduce myself yet, because i'm really busy these days > and unfortunately i cant help much. But i did test one > > or two items from the QA list that have been posted. I have read the > instruction and notes. > > should i just edit the wiki now ? i'm not really familiar with the > way of work here... > > > > AFAIK, thats what I've been doing. I click on the test if it has > specific > instructions, if they work right I fill out that box with my username. You've got it! Until we have an alternative project online (https://fedorahosted.org/nitrate) we're using the wiki to record test results. If there is something unclear/incorrect/missing with a specific test case, you are encouraged to use the Talk page ... or raise the issue in #fedora-qa. Thanks for testing :) -James -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From bretm at redhat.com Fri Feb 6 20:52:05 2009 From: bretm at redhat.com (Bret McMillan) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 15:52:05 -0500 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> Message-ID: <498CA2F5.5040008@redhat.com> Mike McGrath wrote: >> I'm new on the list so this may have come up before, in which case >> apologies :). Something I thought would be nice to have for QA community >> is a public calendar system where dates of events like test days can be >> published. Obviously it's silly for me personally or the QA team to take >> on the job of hosting a calendar server, but it was suggested that it >> would be a good project for the infrastructure team, and other groups >> within Fedora could probably benefit from it. Does it sound like a good >> idea? Anyone want to have a go? Or is there something already, that I >> don't know about? Thanks! >> -- > > This is something that has been discussed a few times in the past but no > one has volunteered to put together I'm afraid. It'd be a good project to > have up and going though. http://trac.calendarserver.org/ Would love to see this packaged up in fedora... I've been meaning to do it, but just bogged down w/ other things. :) --Bret From a.badger at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 21:32:48 2009 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 13:32:48 -0800 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: <1233948510.12681.509.camel@vaio.local.net> References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <037801c987dc$1e6af250$5b40d6f0$@org> <1233871318.9993.560.camel@vaio.local.net> <1233948510.12681.509.camel@vaio.local.net> Message-ID: <498CAC80.2040601@gmail.com> Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 18:51 -0700, Clint Savage wrote: > >> Adam, >> >> Funny thing, I was just mentioning how it would be nice to have a >> calendaring solution that would be able to let people pull feeds and >> put items on the calendar for Fedora with use in FAS. I think even >> though there's currently no solution quite as good as google calendar >> (or apple's iCal) in free software, there are alternatives. >> >> Bongo Project - http://bongo-project.org/Main_Page (formerly Hula) (GPLv2) >> Bedework - http://www.bedework.org/bedework/ (BSD License) >> DAViCal - http://rscds.sourceforge.net/ (GPL) >> >> I'm sure there are others, but I think a self-sustaining calendar that >> could integrate with the Fedora Account System (FAS) and make it so >> that people can create events that could get pushed to a central >> calendar which others might subscribe. Something like this would be >> awesome and I'd be happy to help you get it started. Maybe one of the >> above programs can meet our needs, or maybe we need to look into >> something else. > > Thanks a lot, Clint. Actually one of our QA community guys, J?hann > Gu?mundsson, independently suggested Bedework to me and I had a quick > look at the web page and it looks nice. It runs in Java but I guess > that's no problem if it works on OpenJDK, and it looks like it's nice > and self-contained, actively developed, and seems to really work to > implement the latest standards, so it looks like a good candidate to me. > I haven't looked at the others you suggested yet, but I will. > > I'm happy to help out as much as I can - I'm no expert in this field - > in the initial set up, my only concern is to make sure that this is > something the infrastructure group will maintain over a sustained > period, I'm just hoping that it won't fall by the wayside and stop > working after a few months or wind up with me having to (try and) > maintain it or something. But I'm certainly happy to help out in getting > it up and running and fit for purpose initially. We have kind of a de facto no-Java standard in infrastructure. This is partially because none of us have had good experiences running apps in java and partially because we have noone with Java programming experience to fix things if we need to. If you had some people to give to us to work on maintaining the server we might be able to work out something similar to how zikula is being run for the docs deploy. But that doesn't sound like the case :-( -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From simon at zikula.org Fri Feb 6 22:47:35 2009 From: simon at zikula.org (Simon Birtwistle) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:47:35 -0000 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: <498CAC80.2040601@gmail.com> References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <037801c987dc$1e6af250$5b40d6f0$@org> <1233871318.9993.560.camel@vaio.local.net> <1233948510.12681.509.camel@vaio.local.net> <498CAC80.2040601@gmail.com> Message-ID: <023201c988ac$e9ab4d40$bd01e7c0$@org> One Zikula calendar module has a variety of feeds (see http://code.zikula.org/crpcalendar/attachment/wiki/screenshots/list.png) or http://jami.cremonapalloza.org/index.php?module=crpCalendar for a live demo. It might need some template modifications for display, but you could allow users to submit events and so on by logging in with their FAS ID. However, I am sure there are better standalone solutions out there, if you're happy to maintain a separate tool. > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora- > infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Toshio Kuratomi > Sent: 06 February 2009 21:33 > To: Fedora Infrastructure > Subject: Re: Calendaring system? > > Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 18:51 -0700, Clint Savage wrote: > > > >> Adam, > >> > >> Funny thing, I was just mentioning how it would be nice to have a > >> calendaring solution that would be able to let people pull feeds and > >> put items on the calendar for Fedora with use in FAS. I think even > >> though there's currently no solution quite as good as google > calendar > >> (or apple's iCal) in free software, there are alternatives. > >> > >> Bongo Project - http://bongo-project.org/Main_Page (formerly Hula) > >> (GPLv2) Bedework - http://www.bedework.org/bedework/ (BSD License) > >> DAViCal - http://rscds.sourceforge.net/ (GPL) > >> > >> I'm sure there are others, but I think a self-sustaining calendar > >> that could integrate with the Fedora Account System (FAS) and make > it > >> so that people can create events that could get pushed to a central > >> calendar which others might subscribe. Something like this would be > >> awesome and I'd be happy to help you get it started. Maybe one of > >> the above programs can meet our needs, or maybe we need to look into > >> something else. > > > > Thanks a lot, Clint. Actually one of our QA community guys, J?hann > > Gu?mundsson, independently suggested Bedework to me and I had a quick > > look at the web page and it looks nice. It runs in Java but I guess > > that's no problem if it works on OpenJDK, and it looks like it's nice > > and self-contained, actively developed, and seems to really work to > > implement the latest standards, so it looks like a good candidate to > me. > > I haven't looked at the others you suggested yet, but I will. > > > > I'm happy to help out as much as I can - I'm no expert in this field > - > > in the initial set up, my only concern is to make sure that this is > > something the infrastructure group will maintain over a sustained > > period, I'm just hoping that it won't fall by the wayside and stop > > working after a few months or wind up with me having to (try and) > > maintain it or something. But I'm certainly happy to help out in > > getting it up and running and fit for purpose initially. > > We have kind of a de facto no-Java standard in infrastructure. This is > partially because none of us have had good experiences running apps in > java and partially because we have noone with Java programming > experience to fix things if we need to. If you had some people to give > to us to work on maintaining the server we might be able to work out > something similar to how zikula is being run for the docs deploy. But > that doesn't sound like the case :-( > > -Toshio > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1936 - Release Date: > 02/05/09 11:34:00 From herlo1 at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 22:56:25 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 15:56:25 -0700 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: <023201c988ac$e9ab4d40$bd01e7c0$@org> References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <037801c987dc$1e6af250$5b40d6f0$@org> <1233871318.9993.560.camel@vaio.local.net> <1233948510.12681.509.camel@vaio.local.net> <498CAC80.2040601@gmail.com> <023201c988ac$e9ab4d40$bd01e7c0$@org> Message-ID: On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Simon Birtwistle wrote: > One Zikula calendar module has a variety of feeds (see http://code.zikula.org/crpcalendar/attachment/wiki/screenshots/list.png) or http://jami.cremonapalloza.org/index.php?module=crpCalendar for a live demo. It might need some template modifications for display, but you could allow users to submit events and so on by logging in with their FAS ID. However, I am sure there are better standalone solutions out there, if you're happy to maintain a separate tool. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: fedora-infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora- >> infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Toshio Kuratomi >> Sent: 06 February 2009 21:33 >> To: Fedora Infrastructure >> Subject: Re: Calendaring system? >> >> Adam Williamson wrote: >> > On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 18:51 -0700, Clint Savage wrote: >> > >> >> Adam, >> >> >> >> Funny thing, I was just mentioning how it would be nice to have a >> >> calendaring solution that would be able to let people pull feeds and >> >> put items on the calendar for Fedora with use in FAS. I think even >> >> though there's currently no solution quite as good as google >> calendar >> >> (or apple's iCal) in free software, there are alternatives. >> >> >> >> Bongo Project - http://bongo-project.org/Main_Page (formerly Hula) >> >> (GPLv2) Bedework - http://www.bedework.org/bedework/ (BSD License) >> >> DAViCal - http://rscds.sourceforge.net/ (GPL) >> >> >> >> I'm sure there are others, but I think a self-sustaining calendar >> >> that could integrate with the Fedora Account System (FAS) and make >> it >> >> so that people can create events that could get pushed to a central >> >> calendar which others might subscribe. Something like this would be >> >> awesome and I'd be happy to help you get it started. Maybe one of >> >> the above programs can meet our needs, or maybe we need to look into >> >> something else. >> > >> > Thanks a lot, Clint. Actually one of our QA community guys, J?hann >> > Gu?mundsson, independently suggested Bedework to me and I had a quick >> > look at the web page and it looks nice. It runs in Java but I guess >> > that's no problem if it works on OpenJDK, and it looks like it's nice >> > and self-contained, actively developed, and seems to really work to >> > implement the latest standards, so it looks like a good candidate to >> me. >> > I haven't looked at the others you suggested yet, but I will. >> > >> > I'm happy to help out as much as I can - I'm no expert in this field >> - >> > in the initial set up, my only concern is to make sure that this is >> > something the infrastructure group will maintain over a sustained >> > period, I'm just hoping that it won't fall by the wayside and stop >> > working after a few months or wind up with me having to (try and) >> > maintain it or something. But I'm certainly happy to help out in >> > getting it up and running and fit for purpose initially. >> >> We have kind of a de facto no-Java standard in infrastructure. This is >> partially because none of us have had good experiences running apps in >> java and partially because we have noone with Java programming >> experience to fix things if we need to. If you had some people to give >> to us to work on maintaining the server we might be able to work out >> something similar to how zikula is being run for the docs deploy. But >> that doesn't sound like the case :-( >> >> -Toshio >> Bret, I don't know, part of me wants to look at calendarserver, but I can't find what the licensing is there. It looks like maybe it's a ruby project? I looked around on the site and there's no clear link to any good information on its licensing. Simon, As far as zikula, while I think the calendaring of Zikula is great, I wonder if we really need a fully blown CMS to manage our calendaring? In this case, it seems to me that we need *just* calendaring and not much else. I'd like an easy way for people to interact with the calendar from their client applications and update the calendar. I'd also like it to only do that if they have the rights to modify calendar events for their particular group(s) in FAS. Can Zikula do that? My thought is that Zikula is more of a "do it on the server" type application and can't handle input from a calendar client using caldav (or others). Maybe it can do all of the above and more. My theory is that we need to create a wiki page with the feature set we need and get the thing that matches closest to our needs. I'd be happy to start that effort early next week. If anyone else wants to create it first, I'd be happy to help their page instead of mine. Cheers, Clint From jkeating at redhat.com Sat Feb 7 00:47:41 2009 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:47:41 -0800 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <037801c987dc$1e6af250$5b40d6f0$@org> <1233871318.9993.560.camel@vaio.local.net> <1233948510.12681.509.camel@vaio.local.net> <498CAC80.2040601@gmail.com> <023201c988ac$e9ab4d40$bd01e7c0$@org> Message-ID: <1233967661.7493.1253.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 15:56 -0700, Clint Savage wrote: > > Bret, > > I don't know, part of me wants to look at calendarserver, but I can't > find what the licensing is there. It looks like maybe it's a ruby > project? I looked around on the site and there's no clear link to > any good information on its licensing. calendarserver appears to be a python project, and it appears to be licensed at least partly under apache 2.0 http://trac.calendarserver.org/browser/CalendarServer/trunk/LICENSE More clear info at http://trac.calendarserver.org/browser/CalendarServer/trunk/README -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From eric at christensenplace.us Sat Feb 7 02:04:42 2009 From: eric at christensenplace.us (Eric Christensen) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:04:42 -0500 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <037801c987dc$1e6af250$5b40d6f0$@org> <1233871318.9993.560.camel@vaio.local.net> <1233948510.12681.509.camel@vaio.local.net> <498CAC80.2040601@gmail.com> <023201c988ac$e9ab4d40$bd01e7c0$@org> Message-ID: <1233972282.7325.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 15:56 -0700, Clint Savage wrote: > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Simon Birtwistle wrote: > > One Zikula calendar module has a variety of feeds (see http://code.zikula.org/crpcalendar/attachment/wiki/screenshots/list.png) or http://jami.cremonapalloza.org/index.php?module=crpCalendar for a live demo. It might need some template modifications for display, but you could allow users to submit events and so on by logging in with their FAS ID. However, I am sure there are better standalone solutions out there, if you're happy to maintain a separate tool. > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: fedora-infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora- > >> infrastructure-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Toshio Kuratomi > >> Sent: 06 February 2009 21:33 > >> To: Fedora Infrastructure > >> Subject: Re: Calendaring system? > >> > >> Adam Williamson wrote: > >> > On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 18:51 -0700, Clint Savage wrote: > >> > > >> >> Adam, > >> >> > >> >> Funny thing, I was just mentioning how it would be nice to have a > >> >> calendaring solution that would be able to let people pull feeds and > >> >> put items on the calendar for Fedora with use in FAS. I think even > >> >> though there's currently no solution quite as good as google > >> calendar > >> >> (or apple's iCal) in free software, there are alternatives. > >> >> > >> >> Bongo Project - http://bongo-project.org/Main_Page (formerly Hula) > >> >> (GPLv2) Bedework - http://www.bedework.org/bedework/ (BSD License) > >> >> DAViCal - http://rscds.sourceforge.net/ (GPL) > >> >> > >> >> I'm sure there are others, but I think a self-sustaining calendar > >> >> that could integrate with the Fedora Account System (FAS) and make > >> it > >> >> so that people can create events that could get pushed to a central > >> >> calendar which others might subscribe. Something like this would be > >> >> awesome and I'd be happy to help you get it started. Maybe one of > >> >> the above programs can meet our needs, or maybe we need to look into > >> >> something else. > >> > > >> > Thanks a lot, Clint. Actually one of our QA community guys, J?hann > >> > Gu?mundsson, independently suggested Bedework to me and I had a quick > >> > look at the web page and it looks nice. It runs in Java but I guess > >> > that's no problem if it works on OpenJDK, and it looks like it's nice > >> > and self-contained, actively developed, and seems to really work to > >> > implement the latest standards, so it looks like a good candidate to > >> me. > >> > I haven't looked at the others you suggested yet, but I will. > >> > > >> > I'm happy to help out as much as I can - I'm no expert in this field > >> - > >> > in the initial set up, my only concern is to make sure that this is > >> > something the infrastructure group will maintain over a sustained > >> > period, I'm just hoping that it won't fall by the wayside and stop > >> > working after a few months or wind up with me having to (try and) > >> > maintain it or something. But I'm certainly happy to help out in > >> > getting it up and running and fit for purpose initially. > >> > >> We have kind of a de facto no-Java standard in infrastructure. This is > >> partially because none of us have had good experiences running apps in > >> java and partially because we have noone with Java programming > >> experience to fix things if we need to. If you had some people to give > >> to us to work on maintaining the server we might be able to work out > >> something similar to how zikula is being run for the docs deploy. But > >> that doesn't sound like the case :-( > >> > >> -Toshio > >> > > Bret, > > I don't know, part of me wants to look at calendarserver, but I can't > find what the licensing is there. It looks like maybe it's a ruby > project? I looked around on the site and there's no clear link to > any good information on its licensing. > > Simon, > > As far as zikula, while I think the calendaring of Zikula is great, I > wonder if we really need a fully blown CMS to manage our calendaring? > In this case, it seems to me that we need *just* calendaring and not > much else. I'd like an easy way for people to interact with the > calendar from their client applications and update the calendar. I'd > also like it to only do that if they have the rights to modify > calendar events for their particular group(s) in FAS. > > Can Zikula do that? My thought is that Zikula is more of a "do it on > the server" type application and can't handle input from a calendar > client using caldav (or others). > > Maybe it can do all of the above and more. My theory is that we need > to create a wiki page with the feature set we need and get the thing > that matches closest to our needs. I'd be happy to start that effort > early next week. If anyone else wants to create it first, I'd be > happy to help their page instead of mine. > > Cheers, > > Clint > Clint, I see it a little different. Why support ANOTHER piece of software when the software we already have will work. We wouldn't be using the CMS just for calendaring... We'd be using the CMS for everything and it has a calendar function. All that being said, I don't know if Zikula can do what we want it to do for a calendar solution. Eric -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From senapati2001 at yahoo.com Sat Feb 7 05:00:07 2009 From: senapati2001 at yahoo.com (p sena) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 21:00:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: where am i Message-ID: <767156.96272.qm@web45110.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi All, My apologies that I was not konnected a month in the lists with the plans I undertook, and now I am bit occupied in some of my chores. However I will be around.. C'ya , Cheers. From poelstra at redhat.com Sat Feb 7 06:21:27 2009 From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:21:27 -0800 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: <1233871318.9993.560.camel@vaio.local.net> References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <037801c987dc$1e6af250$5b40d6f0$@org> <1233871318.9993.560.camel@vaio.local.net> Message-ID: <498D2867.6070605@redhat.com> Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 21:53 +0000, Simon Birtwistle wrote: >> There are a few Calendar modules for Zikula (the CMS I'm setting up to run >> docs.fp.o) that might suit your needs - worth considering in the longer term >> should the CMS prove to be a success? > > I'll take a look, thanks for the pointer. The needs for us are, I think, > pretty simple. It needs to work as a simple calendaring system - you can > just use it as a calendar, nothing more, nothing less, if you don't want > anything else - into which you can do all the usual calendar stuff, > schedule events. The only other significant requirement for me is that > it support CalDAV, because it's important to allow people to access it > through other clients and calendar systems so that it doesn't become yet > another damn thing they have to look at separately. I would be accessing > the calendar from Evolution, for e.g., along with my personal calendar > and other shared calendars I have going. Has anyone given this a try? http://chandlerproject.org/ http://chandlerproject.org/Projects/ProductTour It might be a nice fit for Fedora because it is python based and some of the user stories center around how it has been useful in collaboration activities. John From kanarip at kanarip.com Thu Feb 5 16:56:00 2009 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:56:00 +0100 Subject: get Fedora puppet modules In-Reply-To: References: <48e871f70902050350w51aab48aq7160666c42688ed2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <498B1A20.5020807@kanarip.com> Mike McGrath wrote: > On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Fabrizio Buratta wrote: > >> Hi all! >> >> Is it possible to get the fedora infrastructure puppet modules? >> >> If so, how to get them? >> > > We don't currently publish them but we have plans to. If you're > interested in specific modules let me know and I can make sure to get them > to you. The main issue is ensuring they're properly sanatized. We used > to store passwords in configs and manifests way back when. Also we do > some things in a messy way still, I'd hate to give people the idea that > its the right way to do it :) > Could the effort of cleaning them up be aligned with development on commonly available modules, such as puppetmanaged.org (potentially move/copy the git repos for each module to fedorahosted infra?). Not only would I be very happy if that happens, it'd also mean a little more involvement in development of the Fedora Infra modules from my side. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From awilliam at redhat.com Sat Feb 7 11:32:36 2009 From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson) Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 03:32:36 -0800 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: <498CAC80.2040601@gmail.com> References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <037801c987dc$1e6af250$5b40d6f0$@org> <1233871318.9993.560.camel@vaio.local.net> <1233948510.12681.509.camel@vaio.local.net> <498CAC80.2040601@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1234006356.32551.12.camel@adam.local.net> On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 13:32 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > We have kind of a de facto no-Java standard in infrastructure. This is > partially because none of us have had good experiences running apps in > java and partially because we have noone with Java programming > experience to fix things if we need to. If you had some people to give > to us to work on maintaining the server we might be able to work out > something similar to how zikula is being run for the docs deploy. But > that doesn't sound like the case :-( No, I don't think so. So let's knock Bedework off the list for now, there do seem to be other viable alternatives. I like Clint's idea of a wiki page to set the requirements and evaluate alternatives, I will happily create / contribute to that next week once my brain is working again :), depending on whether Clint has got around to creating it by then. Added to my todo. -- adamw From herlo1 at gmail.com Mon Feb 9 06:10:14 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 23:10:14 -0700 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: <1234006356.32551.12.camel@adam.local.net> References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <037801c987dc$1e6af250$5b40d6f0$@org> <1233871318.9993.560.camel@vaio.local.net> <1233948510.12681.509.camel@vaio.local.net> <498CAC80.2040601@gmail.com> <1234006356.32551.12.camel@adam.local.net> Message-ID: On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 4:32 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 13:32 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > >> We have kind of a de facto no-Java standard in infrastructure. This is >> partially because none of us have had good experiences running apps in >> java and partially because we have noone with Java programming >> experience to fix things if we need to. If you had some people to give >> to us to work on maintaining the server we might be able to work out >> something similar to how zikula is being run for the docs deploy. But >> that doesn't sound like the case :-( > > No, I don't think so. So let's knock Bedework off the list for now, > there do seem to be other viable alternatives. I like Clint's idea of a > wiki page to set the requirements and evaluate alternatives, I will > happily create / contribute to that next week once my brain is working > again :), depending on whether Clint has got around to creating it by > then. Added to my todo. > -- > adamw > Hi all, It's been a day or two since this conversation knocked off, but I think I have a wiki page[1] up with some good information. It is still a bit incomplete and we'll need to spend some time specifically with the features we'd like to see. I've added all of the calendaring servers listed in this thread, if I missed one, feel free to add it on the wiki page. Also, I put together a tentative timeline for when we could have this calendaring server in place. I assume it's based upon desire and time so let's see what we can get done! I'm looking forward to seeing this project a reality. Cheers, Clint 1 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Herlo/Fedora_Calendar_Project_Desired_Features_(Draft) From extremoburo at gmail.com Mon Feb 9 08:31:10 2009 From: extremoburo at gmail.com (Fabrizio Buratta) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:31:10 +0100 Subject: get Fedora puppet modules In-Reply-To: <498B1A20.5020807@kanarip.com> References: <48e871f70902050350w51aab48aq7160666c42688ed2@mail.gmail.com> <498B1A20.5020807@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <48e871f70902090031wc51d8adg7a8bfce187cc4c8a@mail.gmail.com> >We don't currently publish them but we have plans to. If you're >interested in specific modules let me know and I can make sure to get them >to you. Thanks! I would like to have a look at php, postfix, apache, mailman ,mock and users management mainly. Could you send them at this email address? -- Fab From gastonfedericobenitez at gmail.com Mon Feb 9 16:08:33 2009 From: gastonfedericobenitez at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gaston_Ben=EDtez?=) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:08:33 -0300 Subject: Notes about me Message-ID: <705623bf0902090808g767100a9wa55e13ff6d206f03@mail.gmail.com> I'm argentinian, 28 years old, & I want to help the fedora comunity, my skill level isn`t high, I only program with microsoft languages (but I want to learn others), this year I became a Sistem Analist. If my help is usefull as a traductor or in other aspect please contact me, I'm looking foward some problems to solve and to learn from it. Thanks and goodbye. From kanarip at kanarip.com Mon Feb 9 19:36:27 2009 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:36:27 +0100 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> Message-ID: <499085BB.60000@kanarip.com> Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi, guys. Uh, quick intro for those who see the redhat.com and wonder > who I am - I'm Adam Williamson. I'm new in the Fedora QA department here > at RH, my job is to drive community involvement in Fedora QA. I came > over from Mandriva where I was the community manager. I'll be working > from my home in Vancouver, Canada. > > I'm new on the list so this may have come up before, in which case > apologies :). Something I thought would be nice to have for QA community > is a public calendar system where dates of events like test days can be > published. Obviously it's silly for me personally or the QA team to take > on the job of hosting a calendar server, but it was suggested that it > would be a good project for the infrastructure team, and other groups > within Fedora could probably benefit from it. Does it sound like a good > idea? Anyone want to have a go? Or is there something already, that I > don't know about? Thanks! I've not seen anything in this thread yet, so it may have been mentioned before; MediaWiki has a couple of calendering plugins that will allow "days" to be allocated; I looked into this for our meeting schedule but since none of them include any times for appointments I found it to be useless. Nonetheless, it could be worthwhile for allocating "Test days" and "Events" -and things of the sort. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From herlo1 at gmail.com Mon Feb 9 19:58:49 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 12:58:49 -0700 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: <499085BB.60000@kanarip.com> References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <499085BB.60000@kanarip.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: >> >> Hi, guys. Uh, quick intro for those who see the redhat.com and wonder >> who I am - I'm Adam Williamson. I'm new in the Fedora QA department here >> at RH, my job is to drive community involvement in Fedora QA. I came >> over from Mandriva where I was the community manager. I'll be working >> from my home in Vancouver, Canada. >> >> I'm new on the list so this may have come up before, in which case >> apologies :). Something I thought would be nice to have for QA community >> is a public calendar system where dates of events like test days can be >> published. Obviously it's silly for me personally or the QA team to take >> on the job of hosting a calendar server, but it was suggested that it >> would be a good project for the infrastructure team, and other groups >> within Fedora could probably benefit from it. Does it sound like a good >> idea? Anyone want to have a go? Or is there something already, that I >> don't know about? Thanks! > > I've not seen anything in this thread yet, so it may have been mentioned > before; > > MediaWiki has a couple of calendering plugins that will allow "days" to be > allocated; I looked into this for our meeting schedule but since none of > them include any times for appointments I found it to be useless. > Nonetheless, it could be worthwhile for allocating "Test days" and "Events" > -and things of the sort. > > Kind regards, > > Jeroen van Meeuwen > -kanarip > I think the point I'm continuing to make is that it should support caldav or something similar. The protocol defines a protocol, so the client applications themselves shouldn't matter, but we do need to have a way to communicate with the calendar server. My intention isn't to discount MediaWiki or Zikula as a possible platform for a calendaring client, but to say that the features you suggest are not what we're after here. Instead I'd say that those two applications could push/pull data from the calendar server (using caldav). The events listed in the caldav server can be manipulated by these other applications and probably through an API which could include Access Control Lists based upon FAS rights. I can see this being a bit of an undertaking, but it can really benefit the Fedora Project as a whole. As I stated in my previous email, I've got a draft up of all the features we'd like to see (it's pretty empty right now) and I'll probably go ahead and list some of this email there. But for those of you who are interested in helping me get that wiki page more complete, feel free to visit: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Herlo/Fedora_Calendar_Project_Desired_Features_(Draft) Keep the thoughts coming, I want to see this project succeed! Cheers, Clint From kanarip at kanarip.com Mon Feb 9 20:28:40 2009 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:28:40 +0100 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <499085BB.60000@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <499091F8.6060106@kanarip.com> Clint Savage wrote: > On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: >> Adam Williamson wrote: >>> Hi, guys. Uh, quick intro for those who see the redhat.com and wonder >>> who I am - I'm Adam Williamson. I'm new in the Fedora QA department here >>> at RH, my job is to drive community involvement in Fedora QA. I came >>> over from Mandriva where I was the community manager. I'll be working >>> from my home in Vancouver, Canada. >>> >>> I'm new on the list so this may have come up before, in which case >>> apologies :). Something I thought would be nice to have for QA community >>> is a public calendar system where dates of events like test days can be >>> published. Obviously it's silly for me personally or the QA team to take >>> on the job of hosting a calendar server, but it was suggested that it >>> would be a good project for the infrastructure team, and other groups >>> within Fedora could probably benefit from it. Does it sound like a good >>> idea? Anyone want to have a go? Or is there something already, that I >>> don't know about? Thanks! >> I've not seen anything in this thread yet, so it may have been mentioned >> before; >> >> MediaWiki has a couple of calendering plugins that will allow "days" to be >> allocated; I looked into this for our meeting schedule but since none of >> them include any times for appointments I found it to be useless. >> Nonetheless, it could be worthwhile for allocating "Test days" and "Events" >> -and things of the sort. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Jeroen van Meeuwen >> -kanarip >> > > I think the point I'm continuing to make is that it should support > caldav or something similar. The protocol defines a protocol, so the > client applications themselves shouldn't matter, but we do need to > have a way to communicate with the calendar server. > > My intention isn't to discount MediaWiki or Zikula as a possible > platform for a calendaring client, but to say that the features you > suggest are not what we're after here. Instead I'd say that those two > applications could push/pull data from the calendar server (using > caldav). > > The events listed in the caldav server can be manipulated by these > other applications and probably through an API which could include > Access Control Lists based upon FAS rights. I can see this being a > bit of an undertaking, but it can really benefit the Fedora Project as > a whole. > > As I stated in my previous email, I've got a draft up of all the > features we'd like to see (it's pretty empty right now) and I'll > probably go ahead and list some of this email there. But for those of > you who are interested in helping me get that wiki page more complete, > feel free to visit: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Herlo/Fedora_Calendar_Project_Desired_Features_(Draft) > > Keep the thoughts coming, I want to see this project succeed! > Dude, I'm sorry I even brought it up. Good luck! -Jeroen From mmcgrath at redhat.com Mon Feb 9 20:46:45 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 14:46:45 -0600 (CST) Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <499085BB.60000@kanarip.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, Clint Savage wrote: > On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > > Adam Williamson wrote: > >> > >> Hi, guys. Uh, quick intro for those who see the redhat.com and wonder > >> who I am - I'm Adam Williamson. I'm new in the Fedora QA department here > >> at RH, my job is to drive community involvement in Fedora QA. I came > >> over from Mandriva where I was the community manager. I'll be working > >> from my home in Vancouver, Canada. > >> > >> I'm new on the list so this may have come up before, in which case > >> apologies :). Something I thought would be nice to have for QA community > >> is a public calendar system where dates of events like test days can be > >> published. Obviously it's silly for me personally or the QA team to take > >> on the job of hosting a calendar server, but it was suggested that it > >> would be a good project for the infrastructure team, and other groups > >> within Fedora could probably benefit from it. Does it sound like a good > >> idea? Anyone want to have a go? Or is there something already, that I > >> don't know about? Thanks! > > > > I've not seen anything in this thread yet, so it may have been mentioned > > before; > > > > MediaWiki has a couple of calendering plugins that will allow "days" to be > > allocated; I looked into this for our meeting schedule but since none of > > them include any times for appointments I found it to be useless. > > Nonetheless, it could be worthwhile for allocating "Test days" and "Events" > > -and things of the sort. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Jeroen van Meeuwen > > -kanarip > > > > I think the point I'm continuing to make is that it should support > caldav or something similar. The protocol defines a protocol, so the > client applications themselves shouldn't matter, but we do need to > have a way to communicate with the calendar server. > > My intention isn't to discount MediaWiki or Zikula as a possible > platform for a calendaring client, but to say that the features you > suggest are not what we're after here. Instead I'd say that those two > applications could push/pull data from the calendar server (using > caldav). > > The events listed in the caldav server can be manipulated by these > other applications and probably through an API which could include > Access Control Lists based upon FAS rights. I can see this being a > bit of an undertaking, but it can really benefit the Fedora Project as > a whole. > > As I stated in my previous email, I've got a draft up of all the > features we'd like to see (it's pretty empty right now) and I'll > probably go ahead and list some of this email there. But for those of > you who are interested in helping me get that wiki page more complete, > feel free to visit: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Herlo/Fedora_Calendar_Project_Desired_Features_(Draft) > > Keep the thoughts coming, I want to see this project succeed! > Maybe we should mature this a bit and look into full collaboration suites. For example http://www.opengroupware.org/ I'm poking around at some now, I'm not sure what license restrictions there are for each. -Mike From david at gnsa.us Mon Feb 9 20:55:18 2009 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:55:18 -0500 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <499085BB.60000@kanarip.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, Clint Savage wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: >> > Adam Williamson wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi, guys. Uh, quick intro for those who see the redhat.com and wonder >> >> who I am - I'm Adam Williamson. I'm new in the Fedora QA department here >> >> at RH, my job is to drive community involvement in Fedora QA. I came >> >> over from Mandriva where I was the community manager. I'll be working >> >> from my home in Vancouver, Canada. >> >> >> >> I'm new on the list so this may have come up before, in which case >> >> apologies :). Something I thought would be nice to have for QA community >> >> is a public calendar system where dates of events like test days can be >> >> published. Obviously it's silly for me personally or the QA team to take >> >> on the job of hosting a calendar server, but it was suggested that it >> >> would be a good project for the infrastructure team, and other groups >> >> within Fedora could probably benefit from it. Does it sound like a good >> >> idea? Anyone want to have a go? Or is there something already, that I >> >> don't know about? Thanks! >> > >> > I've not seen anything in this thread yet, so it may have been mentioned >> > before; >> > >> > MediaWiki has a couple of calendering plugins that will allow "days" to be >> > allocated; I looked into this for our meeting schedule but since none of >> > them include any times for appointments I found it to be useless. >> > Nonetheless, it could be worthwhile for allocating "Test days" and "Events" >> > -and things of the sort. >> > >> > Kind regards, >> > >> > Jeroen van Meeuwen >> > -kanarip >> > >> >> I think the point I'm continuing to make is that it should support >> caldav or something similar. The protocol defines a protocol, so the >> client applications themselves shouldn't matter, but we do need to >> have a way to communicate with the calendar server. >> >> My intention isn't to discount MediaWiki or Zikula as a possible >> platform for a calendaring client, but to say that the features you >> suggest are not what we're after here. Instead I'd say that those two >> applications could push/pull data from the calendar server (using >> caldav). >> >> The events listed in the caldav server can be manipulated by these >> other applications and probably through an API which could include >> Access Control Lists based upon FAS rights. I can see this being a >> bit of an undertaking, but it can really benefit the Fedora Project as >> a whole. >> >> As I stated in my previous email, I've got a draft up of all the >> features we'd like to see (it's pretty empty right now) and I'll >> probably go ahead and list some of this email there. But for those of >> you who are interested in helping me get that wiki page more complete, >> feel free to visit: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Herlo/Fedora_Calendar_Project_Desired_Features_(Draft) >> >> Keep the thoughts coming, I want to see this project succeed! >> > > Maybe we should mature this a bit and look into full collaboration suites. > > For example http://www.opengroupware.org/ > > I'm poking around at some now, I'm not sure what license restrictions > there are for each. > > -Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > As a former contributor to OGo I think it's a great project, and it supports things like CAlDAV. However unless things have changed recently I'd expect it to be a bear to get packaged and into Fedora. Not that it should be excluded, just a heads up. That said it's really email centric and I am not sure we'd want to get in that business. From mmcgrath at redhat.com Mon Feb 9 21:11:08 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:11:08 -0600 (CST) Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <499085BB.60000@kanarip.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, David Nalley wrote: > On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, Clint Savage wrote: > > > >> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > >> > Adam Williamson wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Hi, guys. Uh, quick intro for those who see the redhat.com and wonder > >> >> who I am - I'm Adam Williamson. I'm new in the Fedora QA department here > >> >> at RH, my job is to drive community involvement in Fedora QA. I came > >> >> over from Mandriva where I was the community manager. I'll be working > >> >> from my home in Vancouver, Canada. > >> >> > >> >> I'm new on the list so this may have come up before, in which case > >> >> apologies :). Something I thought would be nice to have for QA community > >> >> is a public calendar system where dates of events like test days can be > >> >> published. Obviously it's silly for me personally or the QA team to take > >> >> on the job of hosting a calendar server, but it was suggested that it > >> >> would be a good project for the infrastructure team, and other groups > >> >> within Fedora could probably benefit from it. Does it sound like a good > >> >> idea? Anyone want to have a go? Or is there something already, that I > >> >> don't know about? Thanks! > >> > > >> > I've not seen anything in this thread yet, so it may have been mentioned > >> > before; > >> > > >> > MediaWiki has a couple of calendering plugins that will allow "days" to be > >> > allocated; I looked into this for our meeting schedule but since none of > >> > them include any times for appointments I found it to be useless. > >> > Nonetheless, it could be worthwhile for allocating "Test days" and "Events" > >> > -and things of the sort. > >> > > >> > Kind regards, > >> > > >> > Jeroen van Meeuwen > >> > -kanarip > >> > > >> > >> I think the point I'm continuing to make is that it should support > >> caldav or something similar. The protocol defines a protocol, so the > >> client applications themselves shouldn't matter, but we do need to > >> have a way to communicate with the calendar server. > >> > >> My intention isn't to discount MediaWiki or Zikula as a possible > >> platform for a calendaring client, but to say that the features you > >> suggest are not what we're after here. Instead I'd say that those two > >> applications could push/pull data from the calendar server (using > >> caldav). > >> > >> The events listed in the caldav server can be manipulated by these > >> other applications and probably through an API which could include > >> Access Control Lists based upon FAS rights. I can see this being a > >> bit of an undertaking, but it can really benefit the Fedora Project as > >> a whole. > >> > >> As I stated in my previous email, I've got a draft up of all the > >> features we'd like to see (it's pretty empty right now) and I'll > >> probably go ahead and list some of this email there. But for those of > >> you who are interested in helping me get that wiki page more complete, > >> feel free to visit: > >> > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Herlo/Fedora_Calendar_Project_Desired_Features_(Draft) > >> > >> Keep the thoughts coming, I want to see this project succeed! > >> > > > > Maybe we should mature this a bit and look into full collaboration suites. > > > > For example http://www.opengroupware.org/ > > > > I'm poking around at some now, I'm not sure what license restrictions > > there are for each. > > > > -Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > > > > As a former contributor to OGo I think it's a great project, and it > supports things like CAlDAV. However unless things have changed > recently I'd expect it to be a bear to get packaged and into Fedora. > Not that it should be excluded, just a heads up. That said it's really > email centric and I am not sure we'd want to get in that business. > Lets say we wanted to use features that were _not_ email storage based. How feasible is that? For example, if I created an appointment for you and me, it'd still send an email to your @fp.o email address which would then just be forwarded to your local MTA. -Mike From david at gnsa.us Mon Feb 9 21:23:37 2009 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 16:23:37 -0500 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <499085BB.60000@kanarip.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, David Nalley wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: >> > On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, Clint Savage wrote: >> > >> >> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: >> >> > Adam Williamson wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi, guys. Uh, quick intro for those who see the redhat.com and wonder >> >> >> who I am - I'm Adam Williamson. I'm new in the Fedora QA department here >> >> >> at RH, my job is to drive community involvement in Fedora QA. I came >> >> >> over from Mandriva where I was the community manager. I'll be working >> >> >> from my home in Vancouver, Canada. >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm new on the list so this may have come up before, in which case >> >> >> apologies :). Something I thought would be nice to have for QA community >> >> >> is a public calendar system where dates of events like test days can be >> >> >> published. Obviously it's silly for me personally or the QA team to take >> >> >> on the job of hosting a calendar server, but it was suggested that it >> >> >> would be a good project for the infrastructure team, and other groups >> >> >> within Fedora could probably benefit from it. Does it sound like a good >> >> >> idea? Anyone want to have a go? Or is there something already, that I >> >> >> don't know about? Thanks! >> >> > >> >> > I've not seen anything in this thread yet, so it may have been mentioned >> >> > before; >> >> > >> >> > MediaWiki has a couple of calendering plugins that will allow "days" to be >> >> > allocated; I looked into this for our meeting schedule but since none of >> >> > them include any times for appointments I found it to be useless. >> >> > Nonetheless, it could be worthwhile for allocating "Test days" and "Events" >> >> > -and things of the sort. >> >> > >> >> > Kind regards, >> >> > >> >> > Jeroen van Meeuwen >> >> > -kanarip >> >> > >> >> >> >> I think the point I'm continuing to make is that it should support >> >> caldav or something similar. The protocol defines a protocol, so the >> >> client applications themselves shouldn't matter, but we do need to >> >> have a way to communicate with the calendar server. >> >> >> >> My intention isn't to discount MediaWiki or Zikula as a possible >> >> platform for a calendaring client, but to say that the features you >> >> suggest are not what we're after here. Instead I'd say that those two >> >> applications could push/pull data from the calendar server (using >> >> caldav). >> >> >> >> The events listed in the caldav server can be manipulated by these >> >> other applications and probably through an API which could include >> >> Access Control Lists based upon FAS rights. I can see this being a >> >> bit of an undertaking, but it can really benefit the Fedora Project as >> >> a whole. >> >> >> >> As I stated in my previous email, I've got a draft up of all the >> >> features we'd like to see (it's pretty empty right now) and I'll >> >> probably go ahead and list some of this email there. But for those of >> >> you who are interested in helping me get that wiki page more complete, >> >> feel free to visit: >> >> >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Herlo/Fedora_Calendar_Project_Desired_Features_(Draft) >> >> >> >> Keep the thoughts coming, I want to see this project succeed! >> >> >> > >> > Maybe we should mature this a bit and look into full collaboration suites. >> > >> > For example http://www.opengroupware.org/ >> > >> > I'm poking around at some now, I'm not sure what license restrictions >> > there are for each. >> > >> > -Mike >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list >> > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list >> > >> >> As a former contributor to OGo I think it's a great project, and it >> supports things like CAlDAV. However unless things have changed >> recently I'd expect it to be a bear to get packaged and into Fedora. >> Not that it should be excluded, just a heads up. That said it's really >> email centric and I am not sure we'd want to get in that business. >> > > Lets say we wanted to use features that were _not_ email storage based. > How feasible is that? For example, if I created an appointment for you > and me, it'd still send an email to your @fp.o email address which would > then just be forwarded to your local MTA. > > -Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > So OGo is (or was) cognizant of other users accounts - and would create the appointment on the calendar directly rather than sending to the users MTA. Calendar and other non-mail stuff are all stored in the DB - while mail is almost an add-on. (In the mail-less environment it knows about e-mail - and can send items out, but it treats local users completely separate from e-mail. That might be ok. - esp if we did iCAL or CalDAV. I do need to disclaim that I haven't kept up with OGo in quite a while and things may have changed, but the architecture had been around for a long time, and I don't think they would have made any dramatic changes. From herlo1 at gmail.com Mon Feb 9 22:08:24 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:08:24 -0700 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <499085BB.60000@kanarip.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 2:23 PM, David Nalley wrote: > On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: >> On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, David Nalley wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: >>> > On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, Clint Savage wrote: >>> > >>> >> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: >>> >> > Adam Williamson wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Hi, guys. Uh, quick intro for those who see the redhat.com and wonder >>> >> >> who I am - I'm Adam Williamson. I'm new in the Fedora QA department here >>> >> >> at RH, my job is to drive community involvement in Fedora QA. I came >>> >> >> over from Mandriva where I was the community manager. I'll be working >>> >> >> from my home in Vancouver, Canada. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> I'm new on the list so this may have come up before, in which case >>> >> >> apologies :). Something I thought would be nice to have for QA community >>> >> >> is a public calendar system where dates of events like test days can be >>> >> >> published. Obviously it's silly for me personally or the QA team to take >>> >> >> on the job of hosting a calendar server, but it was suggested that it >>> >> >> would be a good project for the infrastructure team, and other groups >>> >> >> within Fedora could probably benefit from it. Does it sound like a good >>> >> >> idea? Anyone want to have a go? Or is there something already, that I >>> >> >> don't know about? Thanks! >>> >> > >>> >> > I've not seen anything in this thread yet, so it may have been mentioned >>> >> > before; >>> >> > >>> >> > MediaWiki has a couple of calendering plugins that will allow "days" to be >>> >> > allocated; I looked into this for our meeting schedule but since none of >>> >> > them include any times for appointments I found it to be useless. >>> >> > Nonetheless, it could be worthwhile for allocating "Test days" and "Events" >>> >> > -and things of the sort. >>> >> > >>> >> > Kind regards, >>> >> > >>> >> > Jeroen van Meeuwen >>> >> > -kanarip >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> I think the point I'm continuing to make is that it should support >>> >> caldav or something similar. The protocol defines a protocol, so the >>> >> client applications themselves shouldn't matter, but we do need to >>> >> have a way to communicate with the calendar server. >>> >> >>> >> My intention isn't to discount MediaWiki or Zikula as a possible >>> >> platform for a calendaring client, but to say that the features you >>> >> suggest are not what we're after here. Instead I'd say that those two >>> >> applications could push/pull data from the calendar server (using >>> >> caldav). >>> >> >>> >> The events listed in the caldav server can be manipulated by these >>> >> other applications and probably through an API which could include >>> >> Access Control Lists based upon FAS rights. I can see this being a >>> >> bit of an undertaking, but it can really benefit the Fedora Project as >>> >> a whole. >>> >> >>> >> As I stated in my previous email, I've got a draft up of all the >>> >> features we'd like to see (it's pretty empty right now) and I'll >>> >> probably go ahead and list some of this email there. But for those of >>> >> you who are interested in helping me get that wiki page more complete, >>> >> feel free to visit: >>> >> >>> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Herlo/Fedora_Calendar_Project_Desired_Features_(Draft) >>> >> >>> >> Keep the thoughts coming, I want to see this project succeed! >>> >> >>> > >>> > Maybe we should mature this a bit and look into full collaboration suites. >>> > >>> > For example http://www.opengroupware.org/ >>> > >>> > I'm poking around at some now, I'm not sure what license restrictions >>> > there are for each. >>> > >>> > -Mike >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list >>> > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com >>> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list >>> > >>> >>> As a former contributor to OGo I think it's a great project, and it >>> supports things like CAlDAV. However unless things have changed >>> recently I'd expect it to be a bear to get packaged and into Fedora. >>> Not that it should be excluded, just a heads up. That said it's really >>> email centric and I am not sure we'd want to get in that business. >>> >> >> Lets say we wanted to use features that were _not_ email storage based. >> How feasible is that? For example, if I created an appointment for you >> and me, it'd still send an email to your @fp.o email address which would >> then just be forwarded to your local MTA. >> >> -Mike >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list >> Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list >> > > So OGo is (or was) cognizant of other users accounts - and would > create the appointment on the calendar directly rather than sending to > the users MTA. Calendar and other non-mail stuff are all stored in the > DB - while mail is almost an add-on. (In the mail-less environment it > knows about e-mail - and can send items out, but it treats local users > completely separate from e-mail. That might be ok. - esp if we did > iCAL or CalDAV. > > I do need to disclaim that I haven't kept up with OGo in quite a while > and things may have changed, but the architecture had been around for > a long time, and I don't think they would have made any dramatic > changes. > Good call on OGO, I didn't even know it did iCal or caldav stuffs. My last job was extensively with OGO, but I was just a user. It is flexible, can handle multiple appointments, scheduling with one another. If it supports ical/caldav, it could be a very viable choice as it wouldn't require the use of OGO, but it *could* be used to schedule activities. Sounds like we're narrowing our features down to a good list. I'll add OpenGroupWare onto the list. Dave, could you expand on why it might be a bear to package? Cheers, Clint From awilliam at redhat.com Mon Feb 9 22:18:03 2009 From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson) Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:18:03 -0800 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <499085BB.60000@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <1234217883.8308.88.camel@adam.local.net> On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 12:58 -0700, Clint Savage wrote: > I think the point I'm continuing to make is that it should support > caldav or something similar. The protocol defines a protocol, so the > client applications themselves shouldn't matter, but we do need to > have a way to communicate with the calendar server. > > My intention isn't to discount MediaWiki or Zikula as a possible > platform for a calendaring client, but to say that the features you > suggest are not what we're after here. Instead I'd say that those two > applications could push/pull data from the calendar server (using > caldav). > > The events listed in the caldav server can be manipulated by these > other applications and probably through an API which could include > Access Control Lists based upon FAS rights. I can see this being a > bit of an undertaking, but it can really benefit the Fedora Project as > a whole. > > As I stated in my previous email, I've got a draft up of all the > features we'd like to see (it's pretty empty right now) and I'll > probably go ahead and list some of this email there. But for those of > you who are interested in helping me get that wiki page more complete, > feel free to visit: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Herlo/Fedora_Calendar_Project_Desired_Features_(Draft) > > Keep the thoughts coming, I want to see this project succeed! > > Cheers, > > Clint Right, Clint and I are definitely thinking along the same lines here. I think it's worthwhile outlining the Glorious Future Vision, so you can see what Clint and I are driving for here. What we'd like to have is a beautiful calendar system, where all Fedora-related events are stored. It'd have each team's meetings and test days and so on listed in it, the dates when Fedora pre-releases and final releases are due out - anything Fedora-related with a specific date and time on it could be stored here. And, critically, it needs to support CalDAV so that we can pull that data into other places. Most usefully for an end user, you could pull whichever particular project's dates you wanted into Evolution, Lightning, KDEPIM or whatever, so that you can see the dates in your regular client, and set alarms based on them and so on. The problem with a purely web-based system is it becomes yet another damn place to log in to, and you can't really set alarms on it. -- adamw From soimafreak at gmail.com Tue Feb 10 08:10:43 2009 From: soimafreak at gmail.com (Matthew ...) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 08:10:43 +0000 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: <1234217883.8308.88.camel@adam.local.net> References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <499085BB.60000@kanarip.com> <1234217883.8308.88.camel@adam.local.net> Message-ID: <600c3330902100010g18eb27e1qa86835e630204322@mail.gmail.com> Would it be possible to get a features list that is "ideal" I understand what you want but, do we know of anything that supports that and is able to run within our environment? In terms of running Java Apps, Its not that hard, we've been running 3 or 4 jboss clusters here for a couple of years and had absolutely no problems with anything server side. Nothing major anyway, apache (httpd) issues with it, but not with Jboss. The only issues we have had has always been application dependant. And in most cases a bounce of the war file would resolve the issue (temporarily) If there isn't enough skill to support that sort of environment then are we looking more towards a slightly more bespoke solution? 2009/2/9 Adam Williamson > On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 12:58 -0700, Clint Savage wrote: > > > I think the point I'm continuing to make is that it should support > > caldav or something similar. The protocol defines a protocol, so the > > client applications themselves shouldn't matter, but we do need to > > have a way to communicate with the calendar server. > > > > My intention isn't to discount MediaWiki or Zikula as a possible > > platform for a calendaring client, but to say that the features you > > suggest are not what we're after here. Instead I'd say that those two > > applications could push/pull data from the calendar server (using > > caldav). > > > > The events listed in the caldav server can be manipulated by these > > other applications and probably through an API which could include > > Access Control Lists based upon FAS rights. I can see this being a > > bit of an undertaking, but it can really benefit the Fedora Project as > > a whole. > > > > As I stated in my previous email, I've got a draft up of all the > > features we'd like to see (it's pretty empty right now) and I'll > > probably go ahead and list some of this email there. But for those of > > you who are interested in helping me get that wiki page more complete, > > feel free to visit: > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Herlo/Fedora_Calendar_Project_Desired_Features_(Draft) > > > > Keep the thoughts coming, I want to see this project succeed! > > > > Cheers, > > > > Clint > > Right, Clint and I are definitely thinking along the same lines here. > > I think it's worthwhile outlining the Glorious Future Vision, so you can > see what Clint and I are driving for here. What we'd like to have is a > beautiful calendar system, where all Fedora-related events are stored. > It'd have each team's meetings and test days and so on listed in it, the > dates when Fedora pre-releases and final releases are due out - anything > Fedora-related with a specific date and time on it could be stored here. > And, critically, it needs to support CalDAV so that we can pull that > data into other places. Most usefully for an end user, you could pull > whichever particular project's dates you wanted into Evolution, > Lightning, KDEPIM or whatever, so that you can see the dates in your > regular client, and set alarms based on them and so on. The problem with > a purely web-based system is it becomes yet another damn place to log in > to, and you can't really set alarms on it. > -- > adamw > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From awilliam at redhat.com Tue Feb 10 16:12:53 2009 From: awilliam at redhat.com (Adam Williamson) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 08:12:53 -0800 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: <600c3330902100010g18eb27e1qa86835e630204322@mail.gmail.com> References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <499085BB.60000@kanarip.com> <1234217883.8308.88.camel@adam.local.net> <600c3330902100010g18eb27e1qa86835e630204322@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1234282373.8308.116.camel@adam.local.net> On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 08:10 +0000, Matthew ... wrote: > Would it be possible to get a features list that is "ideal" I > understand what you want but, do we know of anything that supports > that and is able to run within our environment? That's what Clint's page is about - it's a list of candidates we can evaluate to see if they meet our needs. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net From jackycheung_itf at yahoo.com.cn Tue Feb 10 16:20:36 2009 From: jackycheung_itf at yahoo.com.cn (JackyCheung) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 00:20:36 +0800 (CST) Subject: HI~ All I'm New Message-ID: <115191.2481.qm@web15204.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> HI~: ??? Hi,All. I'm JCheung from BeiJing China. I'm 23 years old. I want to join the Fedora-infrastructure team of Fedora project. ? ?? When I was a child, I'm learn the qbasic, and write some smimple program with qbasic.When I was 18 years old(2004) ,I have CCNA of Cisco Career Certifications. In the same year, I'm learn the C#,(Now i don't use this for development program.) When I was? 19 years old(2005), I'm learn the Linux OS, PHP & C in work. When I was 21 years old(2007), I'm learn the Python. Use this write some little program. Now, I'm skill is : C, Python, PHP, and some with Ruby on Rails. I love OpenSource !!! I love FreeSoftware!!! I have the Fedora account. The Fedora Account username is jcheung too. ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Wirte by JCheung ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Feb, 11th, 2009 ___________________________________________________________ ????????????????? http://card.mail.cn.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Feb 10 16:30:13 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:30:13 -0600 (CST) Subject: Outage Notification - 2009-02-11 16:00 UTC Message-ID: There will be an outage starting at 2009-02-11 16:00 UTC, which will last approximately 4 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2009-02-11 16:00 UTC' Affected Services: alt.fedoraproject.org secondary.fedoraproject.org archive.fedoraproject.org Unaffected Services: Buildsystem CVS / Source Control Database DNS Fedora Hosted Fedora People Fedora Talk Mail Mirror System Torrent Translation Services Websites Ticket Link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1177 Reason for Outage: Jonathan will be on site to install some more RAM in this host. It will probably only be down for a half hour or so but we're giving it a bigger window of time. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to trackthe status of this outage. From soimafreak at gmail.com Tue Feb 10 16:35:10 2009 From: soimafreak at gmail.com (Matthew ...) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:35:10 +0000 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: <1234282373.8308.116.camel@adam.local.net> References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <499085BB.60000@kanarip.com> <1234217883.8308.88.camel@adam.local.net> <600c3330902100010g18eb27e1qa86835e630204322@mail.gmail.com> <1234282373.8308.116.camel@adam.local.net> Message-ID: <600c3330902100835m3e584f25ne054a1f8df9e422c@mail.gmail.com> To clarify what I was after, if you look at the following link: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Herlo/Fedora_Calendar_Project_Desired_Features_(Draft)#Solution_requirements Which has no "must have" requirements and no "Should have" requirements. >From reading through this email thread it is clear that not just "any" calendar solution will do. Before seeing if the list of calendars on the page meet the requirements it would be helpful to know what the requirements are so each calendar solution could be evaluated fairly. I appreciate that it may not be known what exactly is required but at the least you have some things highlighted here... It must be able to store events, recurring events, send out reminders, allow people to plug it in to their mail client, allow it to be viewed from a web page, support CalDav / iCalendar etc etc With these requirements listed it would be easier and fairer to evaluate the solution needed, I imagine then the Infrastructure team would be able to work out the "how" to make it happen or if it is even possible to meet all requirements, or to suggest alternatives. Hope that helps explain what I was thinking in my head. 2009/2/10 Adam Williamson > On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 08:10 +0000, Matthew ... wrote: > > Would it be possible to get a features list that is "ideal" I > > understand what you want but, do we know of anything that supports > > that and is able to run within our environment? > > That's what Clint's page is about - it's a list of candidates we can > evaluate to see if they meet our needs. > -- > Adam Williamson > Fedora QA Community Monkey > IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org > http://www.happyassassin.net > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It refers to the spacewalk project. best wishes, Sascha -- Mit freundlichen Gr??en, / with kind regards, Sascha Thomas Spreitzer http://spreitzer.name/ From jeff at ocjtech.us Tue Feb 10 17:15:32 2009 From: jeff at ocjtech.us (Jeffrey Ollie) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:15:32 -0600 Subject: redhat.com/spacewalk, BugID# 484907 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <935ead450902100915h7b5a17efu8977951fea9b76f5@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Sascha Thomas Spreitzer wrote: > > ive opened the following bug, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=484907 > I don't know whether this is related to this infrastructure group. It > refers to the spacewalk project. "You are not authorized to access bug #484907" I'd bet that almost 100% of us on the fedora-infrastructure list do not have access to this bug. Makes it kind of hard to help... -- Jeff Ollie "You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe." -- Marcus to Franklin in Babylon 5: "A Late Delivery from Avalon" From sascha at spreitzer.name Tue Feb 10 17:25:00 2009 From: sascha at spreitzer.name (Sascha Thomas Spreitzer) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:25:00 +0100 Subject: redhat.com/spacewalk, BugID# 484907 In-Reply-To: <935ead450902100915h7b5a17efu8977951fea9b76f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <935ead450902100915h7b5a17efu8977951fea9b76f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, ive no clue why bugs in that group are restricted, but heres the past of the description: Description of problem: The website http://www.redhat.com/spacewalk is inaccessible by Firefox 3.0.6 on Fedora 10. Supplied server compression is not handled proper by firefox. Page fails to load. German error description from firefox: [START] Fehlerhafte Kodierung der Inhalte Die Webseite, die Sie ?ffnen m?chten, kann nicht angezeigt werden, da sie eine ung?ltige oder unbekannte Form der Kompression verwendet. Die aufgerufene Seite kann nicht angezeigt werden, da sie eine ung?ltige oder nicht unterst?tzte Form der Kompression verwendet. * Bitte kontaktieren Sie die Website-Betreiber, um sie ?ber dieses Problem zu informieren. [END] Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): N/A How reproducible: Try to access or reload page. cheers, Sascha 2009/2/10 Jeffrey Ollie : > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Sascha Thomas Spreitzer > wrote: >> >> ive opened the following bug, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=484907 >> I don't know whether this is related to this infrastructure group. It >> refers to the spacewalk project. > > "You are not authorized to access bug #484907" > > I'd bet that almost 100% of us on the fedora-infrastructure list do > not have access to this bug. Makes it kind of hard to help... > > -- > Jeff Ollie > > "You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then > I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the > terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve > them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and > unfairness of the universe." > > -- Marcus to Franklin in Babylon 5: "A Late Delivery from Avalon" > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > -- Mit freundlichen Gr??en, / with kind regards, Sascha Thomas Spreitzer http://spreitzer.name/ From ricky at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 10 17:30:25 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:30:25 -0500 Subject: redhat.com/spacewalk, BugID# 484907 In-Reply-To: References: <935ead450902100915h7b5a17efu8977951fea9b76f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090210173025.GB25767@sphe.res.cmu.edu> On 2009-02-10 06:25:00 PM, Sascha Thomas Spreitzer wrote: > Description of problem: > The website http://www.redhat.com/spacewalk is inaccessible by Firefox 3.0.6 on > Fedora 10. > Supplied server compression is not handled proper by firefox. > Page fails to load. For what it's worth, loading that page and clicking on a couple of links works for me with Firefox 3.0.6 in Fedora 10 now. We don't use Spacewalk (or run http://www.redhat.com/spacewalk) in Fedora Infrastructure, though. Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jeff at ocjtech.us Tue Feb 10 17:32:30 2009 From: jeff at ocjtech.us (Jeffrey Ollie) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:32:30 -0600 Subject: redhat.com/spacewalk, BugID# 484907 In-Reply-To: <20090210173025.GB25767@sphe.res.cmu.edu> References: <935ead450902100915h7b5a17efu8977951fea9b76f5@mail.gmail.com> <20090210173025.GB25767@sphe.res.cmu.edu> Message-ID: <935ead450902100932k1263f1e1xb5d4772d2b42c67f@mail.gmail.com> 2009/2/10 Ricky Zhou : > On 2009-02-10 06:25:00 PM, Sascha Thomas Spreitzer wrote: >> Description of problem: >> The website http://www.redhat.com/spacewalk is inaccessible by Firefox 3.0.6 on >> Fedora 10. >> Supplied server compression is not handled proper by firefox. >> Page fails to load. > For what it's worth, loading that page and clicking on a couple of links > works for me with Firefox 3.0.6 in Fedora 10 now. We don't use > Spacewalk (or run http://www.redhat.com/spacewalk) in Fedora > Infrastructure, though. Loads fine for me as well, F-10 FF 3.0.6. And as Fedora Infrastructure doesn't run www.redhat.com it's a problem either for RedHat IT or the Firefox maintainers. -- Jeff Ollie "You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe." -- Marcus to Franklin in Babylon 5: "A Late Delivery from Avalon" From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue Feb 10 17:38:35 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:38:35 -0700 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: <600c3330902100835m3e584f25ne054a1f8df9e422c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <499085BB.60000@kanarip.com> <1234217883.8308.88.camel@adam.local.net> <600c3330902100010g18eb27e1qa86835e630204322@mail.gmail.com> <1234282373.8308.116.camel@adam.local.net> <600c3330902100835m3e584f25ne054a1f8df9e422c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2009/2/10 Matthew ... : > To clarify what I was after, if you look at the following link: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Herlo/Fedora_Calendar_Project_Desired_Features_(Draft)#Solution_requirements > > Which has no "must have" requirements and no "Should have" requirements. Add some requirements. It's a wiki and can be edited :) > From reading through this email thread it is clear that not just "any" > calendar solution will do. > > Before seeing if the list of calendars on the page meet the requirements it > would be helpful to know what the requirements are so each calendar solution > could be evaluated fairly. No argument, that page is a draft and needs editing. I'm hoping we get a collective of suggestions/requirements. > I appreciate that it may not be known what exactly is required but at the > least you have some things highlighted here... > > It must be able to store events, recurring events, send out reminders, allow > people to plug it in to their mail client, allow it to be viewed from a web > page, support CalDav / iCalendar etc etc > > With these requirements listed it would be easier and fairer to evaluate the > solution needed, I imagine then the Infrastructure team would be able to > work out the "how" to make it happen or if it is even possible to meet all > requirements, or to suggest alternatives. Those sound somewhat reasonable, let's get them on the wiki page. If you don't have wiki formatting skills, don't worry, I'll format it once you've added them to the right section. I completely agree with your thinking and thus why I created the page. I'm not the master here, just trying to make it possible for others to have a say. Getting that information on the wiki page is critical to determining what calendaring solution we use. I'll be adding stuff too, but just haven't had time to do so. Anyone, with a FAS account can edit the wiki. Cheers, Clint From adrian at lisas.de Tue Feb 10 17:53:04 2009 From: adrian at lisas.de (Adrian Reber) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:53:04 +0100 Subject: [bobbitton@gmail.com: Re: Permission Denied] Message-ID: <20090210175304.GC25203@lisas.de> Forwarding to fedora infrastructure list. ----- Forwarded message from Bob Bitton ----- Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:48:37 -0700 Subject: Re: Permission Denied From: Bob Bitton To: Adrian Reber Yes it gets up to 4 of 7 peers downloading, then I get the permission denied On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Adrian Reber wrote: > > Works for me. Do you still get the error? > > Adrian > > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 09:42:04AM -0700, Bob Bitton wrote: > > Thank you for responding so fast this is where I'm at > > http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents//Fedora-9-i686-Live.torrent,, > and > > the error message is Permission Denied, Thanks again Bob > > > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Adrian Reber wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 09:23:46AM -0700, Bob Bitton wrote: > > > > I would like to know why Fedora will not allow me to download FC9 > live, > > > > I've let so many people test drive my live CD, that now theirs a lot > of > > > I/O > > > > errors > > > > when the disc starts to load, I would appreciate an answer, thank you > > > Robert > > > > Bitton (justwannaknow) > > > > > > Please let us from where you are trying to download the Fedora 9 Live > CD > > > (URL). As well as the error message you are getting. > > > > > > Adrian > ----- End forwarded message ----- From adrian at lisas.de Tue Feb 10 18:02:46 2009 From: adrian at lisas.de (Adrian Reber) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:02:46 +0100 Subject: [bobbitton@gmail.com: Re: Permission Denied] In-Reply-To: <20090210175304.GC25203@lisas.de> References: <20090210175304.GC25203@lisas.de> Message-ID: <20090210180246.GD25203@lisas.de> Seems to be resolved. Got a mail from Bob, he says it is working now. On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 06:53:04PM +0100, Adrian Reber wrote: > > Forwarding to fedora infrastructure list. > > ----- Forwarded message from Bob Bitton ----- > > Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:48:37 -0700 > Subject: Re: Permission Denied > From: Bob Bitton > To: Adrian Reber > > Yes it gets up to 4 of 7 peers downloading, then I get the permission denied > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Adrian Reber wrote: > > > > > Works for me. Do you still get the error? > > > > Adrian > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 09:42:04AM -0700, Bob Bitton wrote: > > > Thank you for responding so fast this is where I'm at > > > http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents//Fedora-9-i686-Live.torrent,, > > and > > > the error message is Permission Denied, Thanks again Bob > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Adrian Reber wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 09:23:46AM -0700, Bob Bitton wrote: > > > > > I would like to know why Fedora will not allow me to download FC9 > > live, > > > > > I've let so many people test drive my live CD, that now theirs a lot > > of > > > > I/O > > > > > errors > > > > > when the disc starts to load, I would appreciate an answer, thank you > > > > Robert > > > > > Bitton (justwannaknow) > > > > > > > > Please let us from where you are trying to download the Fedora 9 Live > > CD > > > > (URL). As well as the error message you are getting. > > > > > > > > Adrian > > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- From sascha at spreitzer.name Tue Feb 10 18:11:48 2009 From: sascha at spreitzer.name (Sascha Thomas Spreitzer) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:11:48 +0100 Subject: redhat.com/spacewalk, BugID# 484907 In-Reply-To: <935ead450902100932k1263f1e1xb5d4772d2b42c67f@mail.gmail.com> References: <935ead450902100915h7b5a17efu8977951fea9b76f5@mail.gmail.com> <20090210173025.GB25767@sphe.res.cmu.edu> <935ead450902100932k1263f1e1xb5d4772d2b42c67f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, I just wanted to know whether the FIG runs that boxes, but everythings seems fine. The page shows now 404 error. Maybe its a language dependant problem. However nothing to do with FIG. thanks anyways. best regards, Sascha 2009/2/10 Jeffrey Ollie : > 2009/2/10 Ricky Zhou : >> On 2009-02-10 06:25:00 PM, Sascha Thomas Spreitzer wrote: >>> Description of problem: >>> The website http://www.redhat.com/spacewalk is inaccessible by Firefox 3.0.6 on >>> Fedora 10. >>> Supplied server compression is not handled proper by firefox. >>> Page fails to load. >> For what it's worth, loading that page and clicking on a couple of links >> works for me with Firefox 3.0.6 in Fedora 10 now. We don't use >> Spacewalk (or run http://www.redhat.com/spacewalk) in Fedora >> Infrastructure, though. > > Loads fine for me as well, F-10 FF 3.0.6. And as Fedora > Infrastructure doesn't run www.redhat.com it's a problem either for > RedHat IT or the Firefox maintainers. > > -- > Jeff Ollie > > "You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then > I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the > terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve > them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and > unfairness of the universe." > > -- Marcus to Franklin in Babylon 5: "A Late Delivery from Avalon" > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > -- Mit freundlichen Gr??en, / with kind regards, Sascha Thomas Spreitzer http://spreitzer.name/ From jackycheung_itf at yahoo.com.cn Wed Feb 11 13:48:13 2009 From: jackycheung_itf at yahoo.com.cn (JackyCheung) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:48:13 +0800 (CST) Subject: I can't upload SSH key Message-ID: <494282.13734.qm@web15206.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> Hi Guys, I can' upload the SSH key. First, I downloaded the SSH key, sava in my /usr/lcoal/downloads/ folder. 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Show me an error page. > > I upload the image of this in this mail > > Plz tell me how can ringht upload the SSH key . > > > Write by JCheung > > Feb, 11, 2009 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ????????????????? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list -- Regards, Damian Myerscough From mmcgrath at redhat.com Wed Feb 11 14:08:18 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:08:18 -0600 (CST) Subject: HI~ All I'm New In-Reply-To: <115191.2481.qm@web15204.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> References: <115191.2481.qm@web15204.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, JackyCheung wrote: > HI~: > ??? Hi,All. I'm JCheung from BeiJing China. I'm 23 years old. I want to join the Fedora-infrastructure team of Fedora > project. > ? ?? When I was a child, I'm learn the qbasic, and write some smimple program with qbasic.When I was 18 years old(2004) > ,I have CCNA of Cisco Career Certifications. > In the same year, I'm learn the C#,(Now i don't use this for development program.) > When I was? 19 years old(2005), I'm learn the Linux OS, PHP & C in work. > When I was 21 years old(2007), I'm learn the Python. Use this write some little program. > Now, I'm skill is : C, Python, PHP, and some with Ruby on Rails. > > I love OpenSource !!! > I love FreeSoftware!!! > > I have the Fedora account. The Fedora Account username is jcheung too. > Welcome jcheung! I see you are in IRC right now, I'll talk to you there. -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Wed Feb 11 15:47:48 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:47:48 -0600 (CST) Subject: wordpress-mu install Message-ID: who wants to finalize our wordpress-mu implementation? Its sort of in limbo right now. -Mike From skvidal at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 11 15:53:08 2009 From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (seth vidal) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:53:08 -0500 Subject: wordpress-mu install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1234367588.1894.80.camel@rosebud> On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 09:47 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: > who wants to finalize our wordpress-mu implementation? Its sort of in > limbo right now. > What was it's last known state? Is there a ticket? -sv From mmcgrath at redhat.com Wed Feb 11 15:56:26 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:56:26 -0600 (CST) Subject: wordpress-mu install In-Reply-To: <1234367588.1894.80.camel@rosebud> References: <1234367588.1894.80.camel@rosebud> Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, seth vidal wrote: > On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 09:47 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: > > who wants to finalize our wordpress-mu implementation? Its sort of in > > limbo right now. > > > > What was it's last known state? > It did get packaged and tested on a pt server. > Is there a ticket? > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/342 -Mike From simon at zikula.org Wed Feb 11 16:04:30 2009 From: simon at zikula.org (Simon Birtwistle) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:04:30 -0000 Subject: wordpress-mu install In-Reply-To: References: <1234367588.1894.80.camel@rosebud> Message-ID: <013601c98c62$6cf26b80$46d74280$@org> > On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, seth vidal wrote: > > > On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 09:47 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > who wants to finalize our wordpress-mu implementation? Its sort of > in > > > limbo right now. > > > > > > > What was it's last known state? > > > > It did get packaged and tested on a pt server. There's a wordpress-mu install on pt15 - I came across it when installing Zikula. Seemed to be working ok when I saw it. > > Is there a ticket? > > > > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/342 > > -Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.234 / Virus Database: 270.10.20/1944 - Release Date: > 02/10/09 17:44:00 From a.badger at gmail.com Thu Feb 12 00:35:09 2009 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:35:09 -0800 Subject: New fasClient Message-ID: <49936EBD.80400@gmail.com> For quite a while (I think sometime around the Incident) we've had a fas-client update pending that is broken. We finally got around to looking into the problem and have something that we think works. I've deployed it on hosted1, hosted2, bastion, and fedorapeople. Everything looks fine with those hosts. There are a few changes: 1) There's still one bug where old home directories aren't deleted/moved to /home/fedora.bak/. The owners are removed, though. 2) The new script and server methods are stricter than the old one. The new script checks for cla_done and active status whereas the old script doesn't. This has lead to a few removals on hosted1&2, bastion, and a whole lot of removals on fedorapeople. For now I'm turning the fas-clients version back to "present" in puppet and removing the known broken fas-clients packages from the fi-repo (0.8.4.5-2 and 0.8.4.7-2, the good versions, remain). We should be good to upgrade fas-clients on the other hosts anytime. -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d 'YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM UTC' Affected Services: Buildsystem Database Fedora Hosted Mirror System Translation Services Unaffected Services: CVS / Source Control DNS Fedora People Fedora Talk Mail Torrent Static Websites Ticket Link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1183 Reason for Outage: Red Hat's internal DNS stopped responding for *.fedora.phx.redhat.com queries. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll be creating tickets soon. > +1 I'm looking forward to help you on this. -- Xavier.t Lamien -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/XavierLamien GPG-Key ID: F3903DEB Fingerprint: 0F2A 7A17 0F1B 82EE FCBF 1F51 76B7 A28D F390 3DEB From skvidal at fedoraproject.org Thu Feb 12 21:28:22 2009 From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:28:22 -0500 Subject: keeping up with the status of alerts Message-ID: <1234474102.1894.193.camel@rosebud> Hi folks, I'd like to try something new. We've been getting a fair number of alerts via nagios/zabbix/etc. Sometimes, due to the conversation in #fedora-admin it is hard to tell who is working on what and what is in need of immediate attention. I'd like to suggest we use #fedora-noc for 'X is down, I'm working on it' and discussion for immediate crisises, problems. I sometimes have a hard time knowing what I should look at and/or what is an expected alert due to work being done. So it would be best to keep the noise down in #fedora-noc unless it is directly related to an outage. What do y'all think? -sv From mmcgrath at redhat.com Thu Feb 12 22:04:36 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:04:36 -0600 (CST) Subject: keeping up with the status of alerts In-Reply-To: <1234474102.1894.193.camel@rosebud> References: <1234474102.1894.193.camel@rosebud> Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, seth vidal wrote: > Hi folks, > I'd like to try something new. We've been getting a fair number of > alerts via nagios/zabbix/etc. Sometimes, due to the conversation in > #fedora-admin it is hard to tell who is working on what and what is in > need of immediate attention. > > I'd like to suggest we use #fedora-noc for 'X is down, I'm working on > it' and discussion for immediate crisises, problems. > > I sometimes have a hard time knowing what I should look at and/or what > is an expected alert due to work being done. So it would be best to keep > the noise down in #fedora-noc unless it is directly related to an > outage. > > What do y'all think? > We've tried a couple of times in the past to better get a handle on this problem, never really tried a new IRC room though so I'm all for trying something new. I've already /join'ed it. -Mike From jonstanley at gmail.com Thu Feb 12 23:09:40 2009 From: jonstanley at gmail.com (Jon Stanley) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:09:40 -0500 Subject: Plan for seperation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > I'd like to start running our own internal DNS servers and internal load > balancers in PHX. Anyone against this? I'll be creating tickets soon. What happens when RHT decides suddenly to change the internal VIP for Bugzila, for instance (and I'm sure there's a few other RHT-internal entries that we rely on). Just food for thought. From douglas.furlong at gmail.com Tue Feb 10 00:40:52 2009 From: douglas.furlong at gmail.com (Douglas Furlong) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 00:40:52 +0000 Subject: Calendaring system? In-Reply-To: <1234217883.8308.88.camel@adam.local.net> References: <1233869407.9993.453.camel@vaio.local.net> <499085BB.60000@kanarip.com> <1234217883.8308.88.camel@adam.local.net> Message-ID: <9d9d35230902091640l7e2b336aw208da48746686777@mail.gmail.com> I've not used it in a while, and it is php based (I seem to remember that being frowned upon) however I believe it supports caldav/ical at least for publishing and supports numerous other plugins. Has any one considered Horde and it calender (kronolith?) Plugin, I believe they are already packaged in fedora. On 9 Feb 2009, 10:18 PM, "Adam Williamson" wrote: On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 12:58 -0700, Clint Savage wrote: > I think the point I'm continuing to make i... Right, Clint and I are definitely thinking along the same lines here. I think it's worthwhile outlining the Glorious Future Vision, so you can see what Clint and I are driving for here. What we'd like to have is a beautiful calendar system, where all Fedora-related events are stored. It'd have each team's meetings and test days and so on listed in it, the dates when Fedora pre-releases and final releases are due out - anything Fedora-related with a specific date and time on it could be stored here. And, critically, it needs to support CalDAV so that we can pull that data into other places. Most usefully for an end user, you could pull whichever particular project's dates you wanted into Evolution, Lightning, KDEPIM or whatever, so that you can see the dates in your regular client, and set alarms based on them and so on. 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We've been getting a fair number of >> alerts via nagios/zabbix/etc. Sometimes, due to the conversation in >> #fedora-admin it is hard to tell who is working on what and what is in >> need of immediate attention. >> >> I'd like to suggest we use #fedora-noc for 'X is down, I'm working on >> it' and discussion for immediate crisises, problems. >> >> I sometimes have a hard time knowing what I should look at and/or what >> is an expected alert due to work being done. So it would be best to keep >> the noise down in #fedora-noc unless it is directly related to an >> outage. >> >> What do y'all think? >> > > We've tried a couple of times in the past to better get a handle on this > problem, never really tried a new IRC room though so I'm all for trying > something new. I've already /join'ed it. Could we get a bot to post those posts to a list or something. That way if someone is working on it.. gets hooked into it and then skvidal comes on and wants to know why xyzzy is down.. he can quickly find out. -- Stephen J Smoogen. -- BSD/GNU/Linux How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice" From nigjones at redhat.com Fri Feb 13 03:35:29 2009 From: nigjones at redhat.com (Nigel Jones) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:35:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: keeping up with the status of alerts In-Reply-To: <9721808.181234496059566.JavaMail.nigjones@njones.bne.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20644142.201234496088216.JavaMail.nigjones@njones.bne.redhat.com> I suggested #fedora-noc a while ago (October actually) no one seemed interested. Ian was going to write a plugin for zodbot to echo Zabbix notices to IRC, but my understanding the code tree is dead with nothing. I'm going to try and come up with an alternative soon. Regards, Nigel ----- "seth vidal" wrote: > Hi folks, > I'd like to try something new. We've been getting a fair number of > alerts via nagios/zabbix/etc. Sometimes, due to the conversation in > #fedora-admin it is hard to tell who is working on what and what is > in > need of immediate attention. > > I'd like to suggest we use #fedora-noc for 'X is down, I'm working > on > it' and discussion for immediate crisises, problems. > > I sometimes have a hard time knowing what I should look at and/or > what > is an expected alert due to work being done. So it would be best to > keep > the noise down in #fedora-noc unless it is directly related to an > outage. > > What do y'all think? > > -sv > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list From skvidal at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 13 04:58:10 2009 From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (seth vidal) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 23:58:10 -0500 Subject: keeping up with the status of alerts In-Reply-To: <20644142.201234496088216.JavaMail.nigjones@njones.bne.redhat.com> References: <20644142.201234496088216.JavaMail.nigjones@njones.bne.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1234501090.1894.197.camel@rosebud> On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 22:35 -0500, Nigel Jones wrote: > I suggested #fedora-noc a while ago (October actually) no one seemed interested. Sorry, I must have missed it. Well we've got people in there, now :) Wanna give it a try? -sv From adrian at lisas.de Fri Feb 13 10:01:44 2009 From: adrian at lisas.de (Adrian Reber) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:01:44 +0100 Subject: rsync errors on secondary Message-ID: <20090213100144.GA28757@lisas.de> Since 2009-02-11 I get following errors syncing from secondary.fedoraproject.org::fedora-secondary/ rsync: send_files failed to open "/development/arm/os/Packages/.VLGothic-fonts-proportional-20080908-1.fc10.noarch.rpm.pBjp2o" (in fedora-secondary): Permission denied (13) rsync: send_files failed to open "/development/arm/os/Packages/.gcc-debuginfo-4.3.2-7.fa4.armv5tel.rpm.Hulh62" (in fedora-secondary): Permission denied (13) rsync: send_files failed to open "/development/arm/os/Packages/.gettext-devel-0.17-8.fc10.fa1.armv5tel.rpm.THlo5A" (in fedora-secondary): Permission denied (13) Would be great if someone could delete those temporary files. Adrian From omkarphadke at fastmail.in Fri Feb 13 11:01:56 2009 From: omkarphadke at fastmail.in (Phadke Omkar Ashok) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:01:56 -0800 Subject: keeping up with the status of alerts In-Reply-To: References: <1234474102.1894.193.camel@rosebud> Message-ID: <1234522916.4587.1300171267@webmail.messagingengine.com> Hello to all, I am new to Fedora Infrastructure team.I have just passed my RHCE exams on past tuesday.now how can i contribute to fedora project from infrastructure team as i am not as Expert as other Infrastructure members are?how i start contributing to Fedora Infrastructure team... thnking u Omkar A. Phadke On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:04:36 -0600 (CST), "Mike McGrath" said: > On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, seth vidal wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > I'd like to try something new. We've been getting a fair number of > > alerts via nagios/zabbix/etc. Sometimes, due to the conversation in > > #fedora-admin it is hard to tell who is working on what and what is in > > need of immediate attention. > > > > I'd like to suggest we use #fedora-noc for 'X is down, I'm working on > > it' and discussion for immediate crisises, problems. > > > > I sometimes have a hard time knowing what I should look at and/or what > > is an expected alert due to work being done. So it would be best to keep > > the noise down in #fedora-noc unless it is directly related to an > > outage. > > > > What do y'all think? > > > > We've tried a couple of times in the past to better get a handle on this > problem, never really tried a new IRC room though so I'm all for trying > something new. I've already /join'ed it. > > -Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list -- Phadke Omkar Ashok omkarphadke at fastmail.in -- http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely different From kolesov_dv at mail.ru Fri Feb 13 12:29:22 2009 From: kolesov_dv at mail.ru (Dmitry Kolesov) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:29:22 +0300 Subject: Introduction Message-ID: Hello. I am sorry for my last message, coding was wrong. And I deside to send it again. My name is Dmitry Kolesov and I would like to join the Infrastructure group. I have been a Linux sysadmin for several years. And I have experience with bash, Python, C/C++, PHP, MySQL, PostgreSQL. I have workstations with Fedora and CentOS in my work. I think I can help. Best regardes. From om.sysadmin at gmail.com Fri Feb 13 14:36:27 2009 From: om.sysadmin at gmail.com (Omkar Phadke) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:06:27 +0530 Subject: Fedora new member Message-ID: <7d1992230902130636g5cbcbd84ue5a375b405457898@mail.gmail.com> Hello Guys/Gals, Myself Omkar Ashok Phadke,I have just joined Fedora Infrastructure team.Following are my Qualification and Skills.I am Interested in Troubleshooting,Virtualization and learning more abt Mail Servers,Interested in Apache Server. Currently Pursuing:M.Sc(CS) Qualification:B.Sc(IT) University:Mumbai Certifications:RHCE Certified Certification No:805009464237208 Skills:Apache,Virtualization,NIS,NFS,Squid,Sendmail Career Interest:Linux System Admin Working:Not Currently but looking for a Linux System Admin Job Previous Experience:Windows Xp Desktop Support but just for 3months. 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Thanks, -sv From notting at redhat.com Fri Feb 13 16:27:37 2009 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:27:37 -0500 Subject: cgit to replace gitweb? In-Reply-To: <1234538868.1894.205.camel@rosebud> References: <1234538868.1894.205.camel@rosebud> Message-ID: <20090213162736.GB3741@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> seth vidal (skvidal at fedoraproject.org) said: > In the last day I set up cgit as a replacement for gitweb. It's only in > testing right now. You can see it here: > > http://hosted2.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ > > I'd like to see it replace gitweb as our web-based git repo browser. > However, it will mean the urls from gitweb won't work anymore for fairly > obvious reasons. > > cgit is substantially faster than gitweb and appears to be much lighter > on resources, too. > > I'd like to get some feedback on the negatives/positives to swapping > gitweb for cgit. I've often put direct gitweb links in bugzilla as a pointer to particular changesets for people to use/try/refer to. I'm probably not the only one that has done that. Do we have a count of hits on gitweb with referrers outside of gitweb? Bill From dennis at ausil.us Fri Feb 13 17:37:42 2009 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:37:42 -0600 Subject: rsync errors on secondary In-Reply-To: <20090213100144.GA28757@lisas.de> References: <20090213100144.GA28757@lisas.de> Message-ID: <200902131137.43019.dennis@ausil.us> On Friday 13 February 2009 04:01:44 am Adrian Reber wrote: > Since 2009-02-11 I get following errors syncing from > secondary.fedoraproject.org::fedora-secondary/ > > rsync: send_files failed to open > "/development/arm/os/Packages/.VLGothic-fonts-proportional-20080908-1.fc10. >noarch.rpm.pBjp2o" (in fedora-secondary): Permission denied (13) > > rsync: send_files failed to open > "/development/arm/os/Packages/.gcc-debuginfo-4.3.2-7.fa4.armv5tel.rpm.Hulh6 >2" (in fedora-secondary): Permission denied (13) > > rsync: send_files failed to open > "/development/arm/os/Packages/.gettext-devel-0.17-8.fc10.fa1.armv5tel.rpm.T >Hlo5A" (in fedora-secondary): Permission denied (13) > > Would be great if someone could delete those temporary files. > > Adrian removed thanks. Dennis From mmcgrath at redhat.com Fri Feb 13 20:33:00 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:33:00 -0600 (CST) Subject: cgit to replace gitweb? In-Reply-To: <20090213162736.GB3741@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <1234538868.1894.205.camel@rosebud> <20090213162736.GB3741@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Bill Nottingham wrote: > seth vidal (skvidal at fedoraproject.org) said: > > In the last day I set up cgit as a replacement for gitweb. It's only in > > testing right now. You can see it here: > > > > http://hosted2.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ > > > > I'd like to see it replace gitweb as our web-based git repo browser. > > However, it will mean the urls from gitweb won't work anymore for fairly > > obvious reasons. > > > > cgit is substantially faster than gitweb and appears to be much lighter > > on resources, too. > > > > I'd like to get some feedback on the negatives/positives to swapping > > gitweb for cgit. > > I've often put direct gitweb links in bugzilla as a pointer to > particular changesets for people to use/try/refer to. I'm probably not > the only one that has done that. > > Do we have a count of hits on gitweb with referrers outside of gitweb? > We can look but if people ask for it would we just give them the new location? -Mike From notting at redhat.com Fri Feb 13 20:49:35 2009 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:49:35 -0500 Subject: cgit to replace gitweb? In-Reply-To: References: <1234538868.1894.205.camel@rosebud> <20090213162736.GB3741@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090213204935.GB7796@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Mike McGrath (mmcgrath at redhat.com) said: > > I've often put direct gitweb links in bugzilla as a pointer to > > particular changesets for people to use/try/refer to. I'm probably not > > the only one that has done that. > > > > Do we have a count of hits on gitweb with referrers outside of gitweb? > > We can look but if people ask for it would we just give them the new > location? Well, a URL that was: /git/?p=initscripts.git;a=commitdiff;h=252c7c1bf9779dbdba94abe47350c866ba8ca421 is now (in the test instance): /cgit/initscripts.git/commit/?id=252c7c1bf9779dbdba94abe47350c866ba8ca421 We may be able to do a rewriterule? Bill From skvidal at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 13 20:54:47 2009 From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (seth vidal) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:54:47 -0500 Subject: cgit to replace gitweb? In-Reply-To: <20090213204935.GB7796@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <1234538868.1894.205.camel@rosebud> <20090213162736.GB3741@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <20090213204935.GB7796@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1234558487.1894.304.camel@rosebud> On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 15:49 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Mike McGrath (mmcgrath at redhat.com) said: > > > I've often put direct gitweb links in bugzilla as a pointer to > > > particular changesets for people to use/try/refer to. I'm probably not > > > the only one that has done that. > > > > > > Do we have a count of hits on gitweb with referrers outside of gitweb? > > > > We can look but if people ask for it would we just give them the new > > location? > > Well, a URL that was: > > /git/?p=initscripts.git;a=commitdiff;h=252c7c1bf9779dbdba94abe47350c866ba8ca421 > > is now (in the test instance): > > /cgit/initscripts.git/commit/?id=252c7c1bf9779dbdba94abe47350c866ba8ca421 > > We may be able to do a rewriterule? > for the simple cases, sure. I doubt we'll be able to do all the tag/branch cases easily.. -sv From dennis at ausil.us Sat Feb 14 03:54:58 2009 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:54:58 -0600 Subject: Outage Notification - Koji, plague 2009-02-21 15:00 UTC Message-ID: <200902132155.10992.dennis@ausil.us> There will be an outage starting at 2009-02-21 15:00 UTC, which will last approximately 48 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2009-02-21 15:00 UTC' Affected Services: Buildsystem (koji and plague) Unaffected Services: CVS / Source Control Database DNS Fedora Hosted Fedora People Fedora Talk Mail Mirror System Torrent Translation Services Websites Ticket Link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1187 Reason for Outage: Maintenance of /mnt/koji filesystem, koji DB Maintainence Upgrade koji to support EPEL, noarch subpackages, srpm's built in a chroot. along with lots of bug fixes. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From a.badger at gmail.com Sat Feb 14 05:20:32 2009 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:20:32 -0800 Subject: New SOP page Message-ID: <499654A0.8030200@gmail.com> Hey, I've categorized all of our SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) pages in the [[Category:Infrastructure SOPs]] and made a new page for them: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Infrastructure_SOPs (The old URL redirects there so old, external links are still fine). The index on the page is generated automatically by the category. This means that anytime you create a new SOP simply place this Category tag at the bottom of the page and it will appear here as well:: [[Category:Infrastructure SOPs]] As you can see from the index on the page, the MoinMoin, hierarchical directory index scheme makes the Category Index a little ugly (everything is listed as beginning with "I" because they all start with "Infrastructure". Additionally, the docs folks recommend that everyone renames pages to be more natural language oriented so that mediawiki's search functionality works better. If I rename in Mediawiki, there will be redirects from the old names to the new ones. Does anyone mind if I start doing that? I was thinking of one of the following schemes: A) Infrastructure/SOP/Baculs => Bacula B) Infrastructure/SOP/Bacula => Bacula SOP -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From a.badger at gmail.com Sat Feb 14 05:54:05 2009 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:54:05 -0800 Subject: New SOP page In-Reply-To: <499654A0.8030200@gmail.com> References: <499654A0.8030200@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49965C7D.3040809@gmail.com> Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > Hey, > > I've categorized all of our SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) pages in > the [[Category:Infrastructure SOPs]] and made a new page for them: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Infrastructure_SOPs > > (The old URL redirects there so old, external links are still fine). > The index on the page is generated automatically by the category. This > means that anytime you create a new SOP simply place this Category tag > at the bottom of the page and it will appear here as well:: > > [[Category:Infrastructure SOPs]] > > As you can see from the index on the page, the MoinMoin, hierarchical > directory index scheme makes the Category Index a little ugly > (everything is listed as beginning with "I" because they all start with > "Infrastructure". Additionally, the docs folks recommend that everyone > renames pages to be more natural language oriented so that mediawiki's > search functionality works better. > > If I rename in Mediawiki, there will be redirects from the old names to > the new ones. Does anyone mind if I start doing that? > > I was thinking of one of the following schemes: > > A) Infrastructure/SOP/Baculs => Bacula > B) Infrastructure/SOP/Bacula => Bacula SOP > Talked to ianweller on IRC and he recommends: /wiki/Bacula Infrastructure SOP and since that's a long URL... having a shortcut (basically a redirect) page name: SOP:BACULA #REDIRECT [[Bacula Infrastructure SOP]] So http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SOP:BACULA would take you to the proper place. -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sat Feb 14 07:21:33 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:51:33 +0530 Subject: Fedora new member In-Reply-To: <7d1992230902130636g5cbcbd84ue5a375b405457898@mail.gmail.com> References: <7d1992230902130636g5cbcbd84ue5a375b405457898@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: As you are from India, we have fedora india mailing list. Please join it. We Indian contributors roam around here. 2009/2/13 Omkar Phadke : > Hello Guys/Gals, > Myself Omkar Ashok Phadke,I have just joined > Fedora Infrastructure team.Following are my Qualification and Skills.I am > Interested in Troubleshooting,Virtualization and learning more abt Mail > Servers,Interested in Apache Server. > Currently Pursuing:M.Sc(CS) > Qualification:B.Sc(IT) > University:Mumbai > Certifications:RHCE Certified > Certification No:805009464237208 > Skills:Apache,Virtualization,NIS,NFS,Squid,Sendmail > Career Interest:Linux System Admin > Working:Not Currently but looking for a Linux System Admin Job > Previous Experience:Windows Xp Desktop Support but just for 3months. > > I hope I get to work > with u people n get to learn a lot thnking u all > > Yours truly > > ~Omkar~ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > > -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From laxathom at fedoraproject.org Sat Feb 14 09:46:09 2009 From: laxathom at fedoraproject.org (Xavier Lamien) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 10:46:09 +0100 Subject: New SOP page In-Reply-To: <49965C7D.3040809@gmail.com> References: <499654A0.8030200@gmail.com> <49965C7D.3040809@gmail.com> Message-ID: <62bc09df0902140146y2574c828nd484929c10370623@mail.gmail.com> 2009/2/14 Toshio Kuratomi : > Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> Hey, >> >> I've categorized all of our SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) pages in >> the [[Category:Infrastructure SOPs]] and made a new page for them: >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Infrastructure_SOPs >> >> (The old URL redirects there so old, external links are still fine). >> The index on the page is generated automatically by the category. This >> means that anytime you create a new SOP simply place this Category tag >> at the bottom of the page and it will appear here as well:: >> >> [[Category:Infrastructure SOPs]] >> >> As you can see from the index on the page, the MoinMoin, hierarchical >> directory index scheme makes the Category Index a little ugly >> (everything is listed as beginning with "I" because they all start with >> "Infrastructure". Additionally, the docs folks recommend that everyone >> renames pages to be more natural language oriented so that mediawiki's >> search functionality works better. >> >> If I rename in Mediawiki, there will be redirects from the old names to >> the new ones. Does anyone mind if I start doing that? >> >> I was thinking of one of the following schemes: >> >> A) Infrastructure/SOP/Baculs => Bacula >> B) Infrastructure/SOP/Bacula => Bacula SOP >> > Talked to ianweller on IRC and he recommends: > > /wiki/Bacula Infrastructure SOP > > and since that's a long URL... having a shortcut (basically a redirect) > page name: SOP:BACULA > #REDIRECT [[Bacula Infrastructure SOP]] > > So http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SOP:BACULA would take you to the proper > place. > Excellent, +1 -- Xavier.t Lamien -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/XavierLamien GPG-Key ID: F3903DEB Fingerprint: 0F2A 7A17 0F1B 82EE FCBF 1F51 76B7 A28D F390 3DEB From mmcgrath at redhat.com Sat Feb 14 17:44:43 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 11:44:43 -0600 (CST) Subject: Introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Dmitry Kolesov wrote: > Hello. > I am sorry for my last message, coding was wrong. > And I deside to send it again. > > My name is Dmitry Kolesov and I would like > to join the Infrastructure group. > > I have been a Linux sysadmin for several years. > And I have experience with bash, Python, C/C++, PHP, MySQL, PostgreSQL. > I have workstations with Fedora and CentOS in my work. > I think I can help. > Hello Dmitry, have you seen our getting started page? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Sat Feb 14 17:45:32 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 11:45:32 -0600 (CST) Subject: Fedora new member In-Reply-To: <7d1992230902130636g5cbcbd84ue5a375b405457898@mail.gmail.com> References: <7d1992230902130636g5cbcbd84ue5a375b405457898@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Omkar Phadke wrote: > Hello Guys/Gals, > ??????????????????????????? Myself Omkar Ashok Phadke,I have just joined Fedora Infrastructure team.Following are my > Qualification and Skills.I am Interested in Troubleshooting,Virtualization and learning more abt Mail Servers,Interested > in Apache Server. > Currently Pursuing:M.Sc(CS) > Qualification:B.Sc(IT) > University:Mumbai > Certifications:RHCE Certified > Certification No:805009464237208 > Skills:Apache,Virtualization,NIS,NFS,Squid,Sendmail > Career Interest:Linux System Admin > Working:Not Currently but looking for a Linux System Admin Job > Previous Experience:Windows Xp Desktop Support but just for 3months. > > ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????? I hope I get to work with u people n get to learn a lot thnking u > all > ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? Yours truly > ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Welcome Omkar, was there a particular FIG you were interested in joining? -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Sat Feb 14 17:54:56 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 11:54:56 -0600 (CST) Subject: New SOP page In-Reply-To: <49965C7D.3040809@gmail.com> References: <499654A0.8030200@gmail.com> <49965C7D.3040809@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > Hey, > > > > I've categorized all of our SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) pages in > > the [[Category:Infrastructure SOPs]] and made a new page for them: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Infrastructure_SOPs > > > > (The old URL redirects there so old, external links are still fine). > > The index on the page is generated automatically by the category. This > > means that anytime you create a new SOP simply place this Category tag > > at the bottom of the page and it will appear here as well:: > > > > [[Category:Infrastructure SOPs]] > > > > As you can see from the index on the page, the MoinMoin, hierarchical > > directory index scheme makes the Category Index a little ugly > > (everything is listed as beginning with "I" because they all start with > > "Infrastructure". Additionally, the docs folks recommend that everyone > > renames pages to be more natural language oriented so that mediawiki's > > search functionality works better. > > > > If I rename in Mediawiki, there will be redirects from the old names to > > the new ones. Does anyone mind if I start doing that? > > > > I was thinking of one of the following schemes: > > > > A) Infrastructure/SOP/Baculs => Bacula > > B) Infrastructure/SOP/Bacula => Bacula SOP > > > Talked to ianweller on IRC and he recommends: > > /wiki/Bacula Infrastructure SOP > > and since that's a long URL... having a shortcut (basically a redirect) > page name: SOP:BACULA > #REDIRECT [[Bacula Infrastructure SOP]] > > So http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SOP:BACULA would take you to the proper > place. > My only concern here is we're not the only group with SOP's, releng also uses them. Although as long as we don't conflict it might not be a terrible idea to merge them. -Mike From jkeating at redhat.com Sat Feb 14 18:11:07 2009 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 10:11:07 -0800 Subject: New SOP page In-Reply-To: References: <499654A0.8030200@gmail.com> <49965C7D.3040809@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1234635067.31753.164.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 11:54 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: > My only concern here is we're not the only group with SOP's, releng also > uses them. Although as long as we don't conflict it might not be a > terrible idea to merge them. Interesting thought. What purpose does grouping them into a Category serve? -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From a.badger at gmail.com Sat Feb 14 18:18:39 2009 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 10:18:39 -0800 Subject: New SOP page In-Reply-To: References: <499654A0.8030200@gmail.com> <49965C7D.3040809@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49970AFF.1050006@gmail.com> Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > >> Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >>> Hey, >>> >>> I've categorized all of our SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) pages in >>> the [[Category:Infrastructure SOPs]] and made a new page for them: >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Infrastructure_SOPs >>> >>> (The old URL redirects there so old, external links are still fine). >>> The index on the page is generated automatically by the category. This >>> means that anytime you create a new SOP simply place this Category tag >>> at the bottom of the page and it will appear here as well:: >>> >>> [[Category:Infrastructure SOPs]] >>> >>> As you can see from the index on the page, the MoinMoin, hierarchical >>> directory index scheme makes the Category Index a little ugly >>> (everything is listed as beginning with "I" because they all start with >>> "Infrastructure". Additionally, the docs folks recommend that everyone >>> renames pages to be more natural language oriented so that mediawiki's >>> search functionality works better. >>> >>> If I rename in Mediawiki, there will be redirects from the old names to >>> the new ones. Does anyone mind if I start doing that? >>> >>> I was thinking of one of the following schemes: >>> >>> A) Infrastructure/SOP/Baculs => Bacula >>> B) Infrastructure/SOP/Bacula => Bacula SOP >>> >> Talked to ianweller on IRC and he recommends: >> >> /wiki/Bacula Infrastructure SOP >> >> and since that's a long URL... having a shortcut (basically a redirect) >> page name: SOP:BACULA >> #REDIRECT [[Bacula Infrastructure SOP]] >> >> So http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SOP:BACULA would take you to the proper >> place. >> > > My only concern here is we're not the only group with SOP's, releng also > uses them. Although as long as we don't conflict it might not be a > terrible idea to merge them. > The pages and categories themselves don't conflict since both [[Category: Infrastructure SOPs]] and Bacula Infrastructure SOP have "Infrastructure" in them. For the shortcuts we can either merge the two or we can have: ISOP:BACULA RSOP:BUILDROOTS At the moment, I don't see any overlap between the two. Jesse, Do you have an opinion on this? -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From a.badger at gmail.com Sat Feb 14 19:01:11 2009 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 11:01:11 -0800 Subject: New SOP page In-Reply-To: <1234635067.31753.164.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <499654A0.8030200@gmail.com> <49965C7D.3040809@gmail.com> <1234635067.31753.164.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <499714F7.1000005@gmail.com> Jesse Keating wrote: > On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 11:54 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: >> My only concern here is we're not the only group with SOP's, releng also >> uses them. Although as long as we don't conflict it might not be a >> terrible idea to merge them. > > Interesting thought. What purpose does grouping them into a Category > serve? > Categories serve several purposes. They replace the directory-type grouping that we did in MoinMoin. So right now we try to group all SOPs like this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/SOP/SERVICENAME And to extract that information, we have to link to the Special:PrefixIndex page like this: [[Special:PrefixIndex/Infrastructure/SOP]] which takes the user to a search page that finds those SOPs. Categories in MoinMoin are more flexible than PrefixIndex. With categories, we can look at the Infrastructure SOPs directly by going to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Infrastructure_SOPs This is a page that we can add our own content to (unlike the Special:PrefixIndex page) so we can use it as an end user visible page if we want. (Category:Infrastructure_SOPs is this way. Category:SOPs currently is not so pretty). We can also have multiple categories per page. For instance: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/StringFreezePolicy appears both on Category:Release_Engineering and Category:Localization We can also have hierarchical categories. Infrastructure SOPs and Release Engineering SOPs are both subcategories of: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:SOPs Currently we have to browse the tree of categories to see all the subcategory page but category flattening plugins exist. -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Legacy entrypoint: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/SOP Redirects to: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Infrastructure_SOPs List of pages where new names are nicely alphabetized. Click on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_Database_Infrastructure_SOP to go to the Package Database page. A template shows the shortcut link to this page on the right. So using the link: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SOP:PKGDB takes you to the same page. This setup does require one more step by the document creator. The shortcut redirect is not automatically created; you have to create that in addition to the SOP page. -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've built the packages we'll need and put them in the infrastructure repo. jcollie, dgilmore, and others, if you want to test postgresql8.3, feedback on whether you encounter any issues would be appreciated. -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From a.badger at gmail.com Sun Feb 15 01:03:48 2009 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 17:03:48 -0800 Subject: FAS Plugins and planet feeds Message-ID: <499769F4.10607@gmail.com> I had a look at adding ivazquez's fas plugin for storing planet feeds and hackergotchi images in fas. Doing that will allow us to query the information from other resources (notably, myfedora would like to get that information). Looking at the code there's a few design decisions we need to make in FAS: 1) It requires its own db table instead of making use of the configs table. This is different than we thought about for plugins but perhaps there's no way to shoe-horn what we want into a strict no-new-db-schema mold? itbegins, I'm curious what you guys have done in zikula for plugins storing data since you've got a longer history and greater need for doing this well. 2) It has a group for having a planet feed unlike the present CLA + 1 other group. 3) It allows for planet admins who are separate from the sysadmin group. (I think this is a positive). 4) We might want to associate hackergotchi with person rather than feed. Pro: We can confidently use it in other places as an icon for the person. Con: Things like the "Application of the week" feed should have their own image. Thoughts, comments, etc welcomed here. -Toshio I guess I need to take this to the list for input. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers. 1. http://www.triforsec.com.br/ 2. http://maps.google.com.br/maps?q=recife,+pernambuco,+brazil 3. http://www.fuctura.com.br/ -- Augusto Cezar Amaral da C Silva From huzaifas at redhat.com Sun Feb 15 05:04:43 2009 From: huzaifas at redhat.com (Huzaifa Sidhpurwala) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 10:34:43 +0530 Subject: Plan for seperation In-Reply-To: <62bc09df0902121152k4969dadbwcf8f4abb5dfd2282@mail.gmail.com> References: <62bc09df0902121152k4969dadbwcf8f4abb5dfd2282@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4997A26B.3040808@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Xavier Lamien wrote: > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: >> I'd like to start running our own internal DNS servers and internal load >> balancers in PHX. Anyone against this? I'll be creating tickets soon. >> > > +1 > I'm looking forward to help you on this. > Let me know if there is anything i can also do to help with this :) - -- Regards, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala, RHCE, CCNA (IRC: huzaifas) GnuPG Fingerprint: 3A0F DAFB 9279 02ED 273B FFE9 CC70 DCF2 DA5B DAE5 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmXomsACgkQzHDc8tpb2uXwDwCeJ1nI/gLKVPgsnq5+n12VNK5W +BAAnioXiqFmL7zR8PIiEkpBc0eiGmX5 =QO0C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From simon at zikula.org Sun Feb 15 16:59:35 2009 From: simon at zikula.org (Simon Birtwistle) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:59:35 -0000 Subject: FAS Plugins and planet feeds In-Reply-To: <499769F4.10607@gmail.com> References: <499769F4.10607@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00f001c98f8e$cb7bb560$62732020$@org> > 1) It requires its own db table instead of making use of the configs > table. This is different than we thought about for plugins but perhaps > there's no way to shoe-horn what we want into a strict no-new-db-schema > mold? itbegins, I'm curious what you guys have done in zikula for > plugins storing data since you've got a longer history and greater need > for doing this well. Almost all our Zikula modules use their own data table - for large amounts of data it wouldn't be practical to shoe horn it into an existing system. We do provide a central module variables storage table, so for example you can do something like ModuleSetVar('MyModule', 'MyName', 'MyValue'); and the obvious extension for getting variables. These are serialized and stored in a central table, and are good for basic configuration, but not actual data storage. A retrieval of one module variable automatically caches all the module variables for that module, so repeated requests don't incur the DB query penalty. I would advise that any serious module storing its own data uses a schema of its own. Anything else is likely to introduce unnecessary complication/indirection or problematic performance. Having said that, I don't have much of an idea what the functionality of the proposed plugin is, so I can't comment specifically :) Simon From ivazqueznet at gmail.com Sun Feb 15 17:52:25 2009 From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 12:52:25 -0500 Subject: FAS Plugins and planet feeds In-Reply-To: <499769F4.10607@gmail.com> References: <499769F4.10607@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1234720345.7809.9.camel@ignacio.lan> On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 17:03 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > 4) We might want to associate hackergotchi with person rather than feed. > Pro: We can confidently use it in other places as an icon for the > person. Con: Things like the "Application of the week" feed should have > their own image. Maybe we can allow a default for the user (perhaps a gravatar?[1]), then allow per-feed overrides. [1] http://www.gravatar.com/ -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From a.badger at gmail.com Sun Feb 15 18:31:00 2009 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 10:31:00 -0800 Subject: FAS Plugins and planet feeds In-Reply-To: <1234720345.7809.9.camel@ignacio.lan> References: <499769F4.10607@gmail.com> <1234720345.7809.9.camel@ignacio.lan> Message-ID: <49985F64.4070105@gmail.com> Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 17:03 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> 4) We might want to associate hackergotchi with person rather than feed. >> Pro: We can confidently use it in other places as an icon for the >> person. Con: Things like the "Application of the week" feed should have >> their own image. > > Maybe we can allow a default for the user (perhaps a gravatar?[1]), then > allow per-feed overrides. > Sounds like a good plan. > [1] http://www.gravatar.com/ > Not sure. The gravatar service is not free software. But we're not hosting it. And it can be used as simply hosting for an image. If we make the user format the URL that gets entered rather than the plugin choosing things like size, creating the hash, etc, then I think we're definitely okay. Making use of those other services I'm not so sure about. -TOshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From kanarip at kanarip.com Sun Feb 15 23:31:03 2009 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:31:03 +0100 Subject: cgit to replace gitweb? In-Reply-To: <1234558487.1894.304.camel@rosebud> References: <1234538868.1894.205.camel@rosebud> <20090213162736.GB3741@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <20090213204935.GB7796@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1234558487.1894.304.camel@rosebud> Message-ID: <4998A5B7.7070106@kanarip.com> seth vidal wrote: > On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 15:49 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: >> Well, a URL that was: >> >> /git/?p=initscripts.git;a=commitdiff;h=252c7c1bf9779dbdba94abe47350c866ba8ca421 >> >> is now (in the test instance): >> >> /cgit/initscripts.git/commit/?id=252c7c1bf9779dbdba94abe47350c866ba8ca421 >> >> We may be able to do a rewriterule? >> > > for the simple cases, sure. I doubt we'll be able to do all the > tag/branch cases easily.. > How about the old location is kept intact for a while while we attempt to gain some statistics on it's usage? -Jeroen From mmcgrath at redhat.com Mon Feb 16 04:29:10 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:29:10 -0600 (CST) Subject: cgit to replace gitweb? In-Reply-To: <4998A5B7.7070106@kanarip.com> References: <1234538868.1894.205.camel@rosebud> <20090213162736.GB3741@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <20090213204935.GB7796@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1234558487.1894.304.camel@rosebud> <4998A5B7.7070106@kanarip.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 16 Feb 2009, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > seth vidal wrote: > > On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 15:49 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > Well, a URL that was: > > > > > > /git/?p=initscripts.git;a=commitdiff;h=252c7c1bf9779dbdba94abe47350c866ba8ca421 > > > > > > is now (in the test instance): > > > > > > /cgit/initscripts.git/commit/?id=252c7c1bf9779dbdba94abe47350c866ba8ca421 > > > > > > We may be able to do a rewriterule? > > > > > > > for the simple cases, sure. I doubt we'll be able to do all the > > tag/branch cases easily.. > > > > How about the old location is kept intact for a while while we attempt to gain > some statistics on it's usage? > Ultimatly I'd like whatever we use to be available at /git/ since thats how it is with all the other protocols (ssh, rsync, git://) -Mike From om.sysadmin at gmail.com Mon Feb 16 06:49:56 2009 From: om.sysadmin at gmail.com (Omkar Phadke) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:19:56 +0530 Subject: Fedora new member In-Reply-To: References: <7d1992230902130636g5cbcbd84ue5a375b405457898@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7d1992230902152249nc0cd5dbt3c08d36446db890e@mail.gmail.com> Hello Mccgrath, I am RHCE fresher n I am looking towards contributing Fedora.I knw I am a fresher and do not have gr8 experience but wanna contribute as much as I can n wanna learn good things.Currently I am doing my MSc in Computer Science so I can give a little time but I would try to give as much as time I can.I have vacations in May so can work more at that time.I wanted to join fedora-web if possible 2009/2/14 Mike McGrath > On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Omkar Phadke wrote: > > > Hello Guys/Gals, > > Myself Omkar Ashok Phadke,I have just joined > Fedora Infrastructure team.Following are my > > Qualification and Skills.I am Interested in > Troubleshooting,Virtualization and learning more abt Mail Servers,Interested > > in Apache Server. > > Currently Pursuing:M.Sc(CS) > > Qualification:B.Sc(IT) > > University:Mumbai > > Certifications:RHCE Certified > > Certification No:805009464237208 > > Skills:Apache,Virtualization,NIS,NFS,Squid,Sendmail > > Career Interest:Linux System Admin > > Working:Not Currently but looking for a Linux System Admin Job > > Previous Experience:Windows Xp Desktop Support but just for 3months. > > > > I hope I get to > work with u people n get to learn a lot thnking u > > all > > > > ?? ? Yours truly > > > > > Welcome Omkar, was there a particular FIG you were interested in joining? > > -Mike > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Feb 16 09:06:37 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:06:37 +0200 Subject: FAS Plugins and planet feeds In-Reply-To: <49985F64.4070105@gmail.com> References: <499769F4.10607@gmail.com> <1234720345.7809.9.camel@ignacio.lan> <49985F64.4070105@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49992C9D.2020106@nicubunu.ro> Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: >> Maybe we can allow a default for the user (perhaps a gravatar?[1]), then >> allow per-feed overrides. >> > Sounds like a good plan. > >> [1] http://www.gravatar.com/ >> > Not sure. The gravatar service is not free software. But we're not > hosting it. And it can be used as simply hosting for an image. If we > make the user format the URL that gets entered rather than the plugin > choosing things like size, creating the hash, etc, then I think we're > definitely okay. Making use of those other services I'm not so sure about. -1 for gravatar, I am for encouraging people to use a consistent style for planet hackergotchis (size, shadow style, background color) and using whatever everyone has at gravatar will certainly not fit, they provide JPEGs, whith no transparent background (so is not a wise idea to upload an existing hackergotchi to gravatar.com, it will be poorly flatened). I find useful the ability to override the image on a per-feed basis even if we default to associate the image with the user (which will work for the huge majority of the users). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From kolesov_dv at mail.ru Mon Feb 16 10:32:22 2009 From: kolesov_dv at mail.ru (Dmitry Kolesov) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:32:22 +0300 Subject: Introduction Message-ID: > On Sat, 2009-02-14, Mike McGrath wrote: > Hello Dmitry, have you seen our getting started page? Hello Mike. Yes, I have seen your getting started page. I subscribed to the fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com, signed up for a Fedora Account and sent an introduction with some notes about myself. May be I have done something wrong? -Dmitry From jeff at ocjtech.us Mon Feb 16 15:52:10 2009 From: jeff at ocjtech.us (Jeffrey Ollie) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:52:10 -0600 Subject: Quick spelling fix for python-fedora Message-ID: <935ead450902160752k1a4257c0qbb8119b3c753a7ba@mail.gmail.com> Don't know where else to send this so here it is... # Bazaar merge directive format 2 (Bazaar 0.90) # revision_id: jeff at ocjtech.us-20090216154555-nm0qtgct1m1uempp # target_branch: bzr://bzr.fedorahosted.org/bzr/python-fedora/python-\ # fedora-devel/ # testament_sha1: 089310f59d20e7d303be63fd9644b89539f0c132 # timestamp: 2009-02-16 09:46:06 -0600 # base_revision_id: toshio at fedoraproject.org-20090209200001-\ # 1nr85x0p0m0suytt # # Begin patch === modified file 'fedora/client/fas2.py' --- fedora/client/fas2.py 2009-02-09 05:43:46 +0000 +++ fedora/client/fas2.py 2009-02-16 15:45:55 +0000 @@ -348,7 +348,7 @@ Returns a dict relating user IDs to human_name, email, username, and bugzilla email ''' - warnings.warn(_("people_by_id() is deperecated and will be removed in" + warnings.warn(_("people_by_id() is deprecated and will be removed in" " 0.4. 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Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe." -- Marcus to Franklin in Babylon 5: "A Late Delivery from Avalon" From a.badger at gmail.com Mon Feb 16 17:34:39 2009 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:34:39 -0800 Subject: Quick spelling fix for python-fedora In-Reply-To: <935ead450902160752k1a4257c0qbb8119b3c753a7ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <935ead450902160752k1a4257c0qbb8119b3c753a7ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4999A3AF.7040005@gmail.com> Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > Don't know where else to send this so here it is... > Thanks! This is the best place for such things. -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards Alberto(arcoder) From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Feb 17 00:42:33 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:42:33 -0600 (CST) Subject: Introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 16 Feb 2009, Dmitry Kolesov wrote: > > On Sat, 2009-02-14, Mike McGrath wrote: > > Hello Dmitry, have you seen our getting started page? > > Hello Mike. > > Yes, I have seen your getting started page. > I subscribed to the fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com, > signed up for a Fedora Account and sent an introduction with some notes about myself. > May be I have done something wrong? > Nope, just checking. What is your FAS username? -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Feb 17 01:51:39 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:51:39 -0600 (CST) Subject: Fedora new member In-Reply-To: <7d1992230902152249nc0cd5dbt3c08d36446db890e@mail.gmail.com> References: <7d1992230902130636g5cbcbd84ue5a375b405457898@mail.gmail.com> <7d1992230902152249nc0cd5dbt3c08d36446db890e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 16 Feb 2009, Omkar Phadke wrote: > > Hello Mccgrath, > ???????????????????????? I am RHCE fresher n I am looking towards contributing Fedora.I knw I am a fresher and do not > have gr8 experience but wanna contribute as much as I can n wanna learn good things.Currently I am doing my MSc in > Computer Science so I can give a little time but I would try to give as much as time I can.I have vacations in May so can > work more at that time.I wanted to join fedora-web if possible > Ahh. So the fedora-web and sysadmin-web group are sort of two different groups with overlap. There is a different list for the content of the website, fedora-websites-list. As far as running the websites (dealing with cache, performance tuning, httpd, etc) is the sysadmin-web group. There's a few sponsors in that group if you're interested. Feel free to bug them every day until someone finally says "sure! here's stuff to do". Unfortunately everyone's busy so it can take a bit for one of them to get together and sponsor/train you. But by regular communication, coming to the meetings (if you can) hanging out in #fedora-admin. You'll get one in no time! -Mike > 2009/2/14 Mike McGrath > On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Omkar Phadke wrote: > > > Hello Guys/Gals, > > ??????????????????????????? Myself Omkar Ashok Phadke,I have just joined Fedora Infrastructure team.Following are > my > > Qualification and Skills.I am Interested in Troubleshooting,Virtualization and learning more abt Mail > Servers,Interested > > in Apache Server. > > Currently Pursuing:M.Sc(CS) > > Qualification:B.Sc(IT) > > University:Mumbai > > Certifications:RHCE Certified > > Certification No:805009464237208 > > Skills:Apache,Virtualization,NIS,NFS,Squid,Sendmail > > Career Interest:Linux System Admin > > Working:Not Currently but looking for a Linux System Admin Job > > Previous Experience:Windows Xp Desktop Support but just for 3months. > > > > ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????? I hope I get to work with u people n get to learn a lot > thnking u > > all > > > ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > ?? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? Yours truly > > > ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > > Welcome Omkar, was there a particular FIG you were interested in joining? > > ? ? ? ?-Mike > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > > > > From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Feb 17 01:53:42 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:53:42 -0600 (CST) Subject: My knowledge and my experience In-Reply-To: <1234809454.6664.10.camel@lnxdsk> References: <1234809454.6664.10.camel@lnxdsk> Message-ID: On Mon, 16 Feb 2009, Alberto Ruffo wrote: > Hello, > I'm Alberto from Rome, I'd like to develop and cooperate with the other > members of this great community. > > I'm 19 and i've begun to programm in PHP(OOP) since 2004. > First of all, I started to develop Web Apps, then i've read much about > Ruby and C, but i'd like to learn more about Linux and its working. > > Thank you very much for your kind attention. > Welcome Alberto from Rome! Were you more interested in programming/development or systems administration and performance tuning, etc? -Mike From kolesov_dv at mail.ru Tue Feb 17 01:37:34 2009 From: kolesov_dv at mail.ru (Dmitry Kolesov) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 04:37:34 +0300 Subject: Introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mike McGrath wrote: > On Mon, 16 Feb 2009, Dmitry Kolesov wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2009-02-14, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > Hello Dmitry, have you seen our getting started page? > > > > Hello Mike. > > > > Yes, I have seen your getting started page. > > I subscribed to the fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com, > > signed up for a Fedora Account and sent an introduction with some notes about myself. > > May be I have done something wrong? > > > > Nope, just checking. What is your FAS username? > > -Mike > My account name in FAS is kolesovdv. -Dmitry From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Feb 17 03:59:59 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:59:59 -0600 (CST) Subject: Introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Dmitry Kolesov wrote: > Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Mon, 16 Feb 2009, Dmitry Kolesov wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 2009-02-14, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > > Hello Dmitry, have you seen our getting started page? > > > > > > Hello Mike. > > > > > > Yes, I have seen your getting started page. > > > I subscribed to the fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com, > > > signed up for a Fedora Account and sent an introduction with some notes about myself. > > > May be I have done something wrong? > > > > > > > Nope, just checking. What is your FAS username? > > > > -Mike > > > > My account name in FAS is kolesovdv. > Make sure to apply for the sysadmin group. Be warned though, nagios alerts will start coming to you. -Mike From kolesov_dv at mail.ru Tue Feb 17 05:53:53 2009 From: kolesov_dv at mail.ru (Dmitry Kolesov) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:53:53 +0300 Subject: Introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Dmitry Kolesov wrote: > > > Mike McGrath wrote: > > > On Mon, 16 Feb 2009, Dmitry Kolesov wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2009-02-14, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > > > Hello Dmitry, have you seen our getting started page? > > > > > > > > Hello Mike. > > > > > > > > Yes, I have seen your getting started page. > > > > I subscribed to the fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com, > > > > signed up for a Fedora Account and sent an introduction with some notes about myself. > > > > May be I have done something wrong? > > > > > > > > > > Nope, just checking. What is your FAS username? > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > > My account name in FAS is kolesovdv. > > > > Make sure to apply for the sysadmin group. Be warned though, nagios > alerts will start coming to you. > > -Mike I have applied for the sysadmin group, and while my status is unapproved. -Dmitry From jony.cohenjo at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 12:34:50 2009 From: jony.cohenjo at gmail.com (Jony Cohen) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:34:50 +0200 Subject: introduction Message-ID: Hi, my name is Jony I'm 24 and have a B.Sc in math & computer science I'm working as a sysadmin/sysdba on *nux\Oracle envirment for the last 5 years (the *nix includes RHEL 4,5, HP-UX, Tru64) I've worked with clusters, web application servers and databases, where the main focus was on the DB and clusters. I know python, perl, C, C++, Java, PL\SQL and of course bash, tcsh, awk... I guess my expirence as an Oracle DBA is not much of a use in your envirment... my user name in FAS is cohenjo I would like to join the following groups sysadmin-devel and sysadmin-dba (I understand that the 2nd group is restricted, than lets start with devel...) I guess NOC and tools would fit also... I'd like to contribute any way I can... just let me know what i can do :) - Jony -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From linux at glossolalie.org Tue Feb 17 13:16:49 2009 From: linux at glossolalie.org (Thierry Sayegh De Bellis) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:16:49 +0100 Subject: Introduction Message-ID: <499AB8C1.2060602@glossolalie.org> Hi all, my name is Thierry and while I attempted getting involved circa 2 years ago [1] life took its toll in the form of redundancy with its aftermath and international moves so, now that I am (somewhat) back in control, I would love to finally get on with it and help. As the message referenced below states I have been involved with sysadmin for a reasonably long time and believe I can help. My current occupation deals with a full overhaul of the monitoring infrastructure for a public service using Nagios and a lot of packaging on the side... I have read the GettingStarted, my FAS username is thierry. cheer Thierry [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2006-November/msg00095.html From linux at glossolalie.org Tue Feb 17 13:22:47 2009 From: linux at glossolalie.org (Thierry Sayegh De Bellis) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:22:47 +0100 Subject: Intro and an apology Message-ID: <499ABA27.2080008@glossolalie.org> Apologies for hijacking a thread.... Hi all, my name is Thierry and while I attempted getting involved circa 2 years ago [1] life took its toll in the form of redundancy with its aftermath and international moves so, now that I am (somewhat) back in control, I would love to finally get on with it and help. As the message referenced below states I have been involved with sysadmin for a reasonably long time and believe I can help. My current occupation deals with a full overhaul of the monitoring infrastructure for a public service using Nagios and a lot of packaging on the side... I have read the GettingStarted, my FAS username is thierry. cheer Thierry [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2006-November/msg00095.html From web20ita at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 14:52:14 2009 From: web20ita at gmail.com (Alberto) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:52:14 +0100 Subject: My knowledge and my experience In-Reply-To: References: <1234809454.6664.10.camel@lnxdsk> Message-ID: I prefer programming and development, I have a lot to learn. Thank you very much Mike. Alberto 2009/2/17 Mike McGrath : > On Mon, 16 Feb 2009, Alberto Ruffo wrote: > >> Hello, >> I'm Alberto from Rome, I'd like to develop and cooperate with the other >> members of this great community. >> >> I'm 19 and i've begun to programm in PHP(OOP) since 2004. >> First of all, I started to develop Web Apps, then i've read much about >> Ruby and C, but i'd like to learn more about Linux and its working. >> >> Thank you very much for your kind attention. >> > > Welcome Alberto from Rome! Were you more interested in > programming/development or systems administration and performance tuning, > etc? > > -Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > From jony.cohenjo at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 20:49:34 2009 From: jony.cohenjo at gmail.com (Jony Cohen) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:49:34 +0200 Subject: introduction Message-ID: Hi, i'm heving problems with my mail. i'm not sure if this was sent, so i'm sending it again... if it got sent then sorry... :) My name is Jony I'm 24 and have a B.Sc in math & computer science I'm working as a sysadmin/sysdba on *nux\Oracle envirment for the last 5 years (the *nix includes RHEL 4,5, HP-UX, Tru64) I've worked with clusters, web application servers and databases, where the main focus was on the DB and clusters. I know python, perl, C, C++, Java, PL\SQL and of course bash, tcsh, awk... I guess my expirence as an Oracle DBA is not much of a use in your envirment... my user name in FAS is cohenjo I would like to join the following groups sysadmin-devel and sysadmin-dba (I understand that the 2nd group is restricted, than lets start with devel...) I guess NOC and tools would fit also... I'd like to contribute any way I can... just let me know what i can do :) - Jony -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimitris at glezos.com Tue Feb 17 23:49:32 2009 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:49:32 +0200 Subject: Plan for L10n for Fedora 11 Message-ID: <6d4237680902171549i7a9aecb5m333fd3e15853fce5@mail.gmail.com> I'm very happy to announce that we've now landed support for translation statistics in Transifex. Lately we've been working heavily in re-writing Transifex and getting v0.5 in the best shape possible for Fedora 11. Being 3 weeks ahead of the string freeze, we have plenty of time to test statistics on Transifex 0.5-devel. For Fedora 11, my plan is to switch the old DL for Tx 0.5-devel for statistics, and continue to use the proven Tx 0.3 for submissions. I've requested [1] a publictest instance from the Infrastructure Group to install it and start putting data and testing it. [1]: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1191 To allow 2 weeks of testing, the instance should be ready by 23/2. When we see that everything works out as it should, we can discontinue the old DL. Our goal with Transifex 0.5 is to include support for both submissions and statistics, and this way we can put aside our old version of Damned Lies which is presenting outdated translations. Since only the commits are missing from Tx 0.5-final, it'll be out in 3-4 weeks, and at that point we go on and test submissions too, while having Tx 0.3 as a backup solution. Some of the advantages of this approach is that using the statistics from Tx 0.5-devel does not even require hook-up with FAS (only submissions require authentication), we have a smoother upgrade path for Django/v0.5 and we have a codebase we know inside-out to build/invest on. On our roadmap post v0.5: - 0.5: Submissions to email,VCSs, probably bugzilla - Comments everywhere - Full API - Integration with Bugzilla eg. for auto-closing of bugs - Workflow functionality (lock a file, resolve bugs, request translation review and others, comments) - Fine-grained permissions on a per collection, release, projects, component, language and file basis - Support for people Teams and user groups - Support for additional i18n formats (mozilla) Comments, suggestions? -? -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From dennis at ausil.us Wed Feb 18 00:30:17 2009 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:30:17 -0600 Subject: Outage Notification - Koji, plague 2009-02-21 15:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <200902132155.10992.dennis@ausil.us> References: <200902132155.10992.dennis@ausil.us> Message-ID: <200902171830.21916.dennis@ausil.us> On Friday 13 February 2009 09:54:58 pm Dennis Gilmore wrote: > There will be an outage starting at 2009-02-21 15:00 UTC, which will last > approximately 48 hours. > > To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto > or run: > > date -d '2009-02-21 15:00 UTC' > > Affected Services: > > Buildsystem (koji and plague) > > Unaffected Services: > CVS / Source Control > Database > DNS > Fedora Hosted > Fedora People > Fedora Talk > Mail > Mirror System > Torrent > Translation Services > Websites > > Ticket Link: > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1187 > > Reason for Outage: > Maintenance of /mnt/koji filesystem, > koji DB Maintainence > Upgrade koji to support EPEL, noarch subpackages, srpm's built in a chroot. > along with lots of bug fixes. > > Contact Information: > > Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to > track the status of this outage. Just a reminder that koji and plague will both be down for the entirety of this weekend. Dennis From dennis at ausil.us Wed Feb 18 00:30:41 2009 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:30:41 -0600 Subject: Outage Notification - Koji, plague 2009-02-21 15:00 UTC Message-ID: <200902171830.48344.dennis@ausil.us> On Friday 13 February 2009 09:54:58 pm Dennis Gilmore wrote: > There will be an outage starting at 2009-02-21 15:00 UTC, which will last > approximately 48 hours. > > To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto > or run: > > date -d '2009-02-21 15:00 UTC' > > Affected Services: > > Buildsystem (koji and plague) > > Unaffected Services: > CVS / Source Control > Database > DNS > Fedora Hosted > Fedora People > Fedora Talk > Mail > Mirror System > Torrent > Translation Services > Websites > > Ticket Link: > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1187 > > Reason for Outage: > Maintenance of /mnt/koji filesystem, > koji DB Maintainence > Upgrade koji to support EPEL, noarch subpackages, srpm's built in a chroot. > along with lots of bug fixes. > > Contact Information: > > Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to > track the status of this outage. Just a reminder that koji and plague will both be down for the entirety of this weekend. Dennis -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From mmcgrath at redhat.com Wed Feb 18 00:35:26 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:35:26 -0600 (CST) Subject: Plan for L10n for Fedora 11 In-Reply-To: <6d4237680902171549i7a9aecb5m333fd3e15853fce5@mail.gmail.com> References: <6d4237680902171549i7a9aecb5m333fd3e15853fce5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > I'm very happy to announce that we've now landed support for translation > statistics in Transifex. > > Lately we've been working heavily in re-writing Transifex and getting v0.5 in > the best shape possible for Fedora 11. Being 3 weeks ahead of the string > freeze, we have plenty of time to test statistics on Transifex 0.5-devel. > > For Fedora 11, my plan is to switch the old DL for Tx 0.5-devel for > statistics, and continue to use the proven Tx 0.3 for submissions. I've > requested [1] a publictest instance from the Infrastructure Group to install > it and start putting data and testing it. > > [1]: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1191 > > To allow 2 weeks of testing, the instance should be ready by 23/2. When we > see that everything works out as it should, we can discontinue the old DL. > > Our goal with Transifex 0.5 is to include support for both submissions and > statistics, and this way we can put aside our old version of Damned Lies which > is presenting outdated translations. Since only the commits are missing from > Tx 0.5-final, it'll be out in 3-4 weeks, and at that point we go on and test > submissions too, while having Tx 0.3 as a backup solution. > > Some of the advantages of this approach is that using the statistics from Tx > 0.5-devel does not even require hook-up with FAS (only submissions require > authentication), we have a smoother upgrade path for Django/v0.5 and we have a > codebase we know inside-out to build/invest on. > > On our roadmap post v0.5: > > - 0.5: Submissions to email,VCSs, probably bugzilla > - Comments everywhere > - Full API > - Integration with Bugzilla eg. for auto-closing of bugs > - Workflow functionality (lock a file, resolve bugs, request translation > review and others, comments) > - Fine-grained permissions on a per collection, release, projects, component, > language and file basis > - Support for people Teams and user groups > - Support for additional i18n formats (mozilla) > > Comments, suggestions? > SO you want two different transifex's deployed at the same time both at translate.fedoraproject.org or did you want to have a test instance up somewhere for 2 weeks? -Mike From asgeirf at redhat.com Wed Feb 18 01:44:49 2009 From: asgeirf at redhat.com (Asgeir Frimannsson) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:44:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Plan for L10n for Fedora 11 In-Reply-To: <32063661.721234921132642.JavaMail.asgeirf@dhcp-1-53.bne.redhat.com> Message-ID: <32219146.741234921481314.JavaMail.asgeirf@dhcp-1-53.bne.redhat.com> ----- "Dimitris Glezos" wrote: > I'm very happy to announce that we've now landed support for > translation > statistics in Transifex. > > Lately we've been working heavily in re-writing Transifex and getting > v0.5 in > the best shape possible for Fedora 11. Being 3 weeks ahead of the > string > freeze, we have plenty of time to test statistics on Transifex > 0.5-devel. > > For Fedora 11, my plan is to switch the old DL for Tx 0.5-devel for > statistics, and continue to use the proven Tx 0.3 for submissions. > I've > requested [1] a publictest instance from the Infrastructure Group to > install > it and start putting data and testing it. > > [1]: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1191 > > To allow 2 weeks of testing, the instance should be ready by 23/2. > When we > see that everything works out as it should, we can discontinue the old > DL. > > Our goal with Transifex 0.5 is to include support for both submissions > and > statistics, and this way we can put aside our old version of Damned > Lies which > is presenting outdated translations. Since only the commits are > missing from > Tx 0.5-final, it'll be out in 3-4 weeks, and at that point we go on > and test > submissions too, while having Tx 0.3 as a backup solution. > > Some of the advantages of this approach is that using the statistics > from Tx > 0.5-devel does not even require hook-up with FAS (only submissions > require > authentication), we have a smoother upgrade path for Django/v0.5 and > we have a > codebase we know inside-out to build/invest on. First of all, setting up a test-instance of Transifex 0.5alpha is a good start, so a big +1 from me. You should probably think of a migration script for transferring the data as well. I would suggest [1] as a good starting point for this, as it is based on Django and gets you quickly up and running. That said, I have a number of concerns with this approach. Just a few weeks back you noted that 0.5 wouldn't be ready in time for F11, and that a good approach would be to migrate to the new Django-based Damned Lies for F11. Hence, I have spent roughly a week worth of development on this now, and I am announcing a public test period for this by the end of this week. The changes we have made to the upstream Gnome version include Fedora-theming (similar to the existing instance), FAS authentication for translators in the cvsl10n group, proper VCS locking and improvements to the way vcs sandboxes are managed, and now the last bit involves support for publican statistics (for e.g. release notes and selinux-guide). However, I have no issue with throwing that work away if we can demonstrate that Tx 0.5 will serve the needs of the L10N project better in the given time-frame. My main concern is the translators and their work flow, and for F11 we owe translators a less crap system than what we've been using for the last two releases. My secondary concern is maintainability, and the core of my changes to DL has been ensuring that it doesn't fail as often, and providing better information when it fails. Some of the benefits with the new Django-based DL: - Translation teams can be better organized (Does Tx even have team pages?) - Translators can indicate that they are working on a specific file - Options of using a Translator->Reviewer->Committer work flow, I suspect linking up the actual commit functionality (migrating it from Tx 03 to DL) is less than a day's work. - Django based DL has been in production upstream (Gnome L10N) for more than 3 months So the gist of my message is that we should first look at the how the translation work flow changes by using these two tools. As I see it, we have four options: 1) Tx 0.5 for stats, Tx 0.5 for commits (not implemented yet) 2) Tx 0.5 for stats, Tx 0.3 for commits 3) DjL for stats, Tx 0.3 for commits 4) DjL for stants, DjL for commits (not implemented yet) So far I'm a few days away from completing (3), and should also be able to get (4) done by early next week. If I can be convinced of a clear roadmap for (1) I'd be happy to help out with that, provided I can see the benefit to the translators with this approach. However, I am a bit afraid that option (2) might hurt Tx more than it gains in the long run. Why not focus on getting Tx 0.5 production ready and in shape to become a great translation platform, rather than simply rushing it in in time for F11? Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but *it is* great to finally see a test instance of Django-based Tx, so don't get me wrong, and I'm guessing a test instance of both systems will make it easier for us to find the best approach for F11 L10N. I know there have been plans of merging the Django-based Tx with DL as well, perhaps this might be a way of developing a migration-path in that direction as well, as I'm worried that the longer these applications stay separate with active development on both sides, the harder it's going to be to get e.g. Tx accepted for use in Gnome. cheers, asgeir [1] https://fedorahosted.org/damned-lies-fedora/browser/stats/management/commands/migrate.py From dimitris at glezos.com Wed Feb 18 02:02:19 2009 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 04:02:19 +0200 Subject: Plan for L10n for Fedora 11 In-Reply-To: References: <6d4237680902171549i7a9aecb5m333fd3e15853fce5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6d4237680902171802ke11bcc5x505c270886a5818d@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Mike McGrath wrote: > SO you want two different transifex's deployed at the same time both at > translate.fedoraproject.org or did you want to have a test instance up > somewhere for 2 weeks? We could use a test instance to bring things to shape. If we are solid, we can move into production and have both versions at translate.fpo. -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From a.badger at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 03:21:28 2009 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:21:28 -0800 Subject: Needed: mod_wsgi SOP Message-ID: <499B7EB8.10704@gmail.com> Anyone here want to write up a short SOP on deploying a mod_wsgi application? FAS and Bodhi configuration in puppet can serve as a reference for doing this and lmacken, ricky, and I can answer questions. It can be short and other people can expand on it later. We don't need to go into details about creating the wsgi script (although a little bit can't hurt) but mainly focusing on how to construct the apache config file. What directory to place the wsgi script in, etc. This would complement the present TurboGears and Supervisor SOPs. -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Jens From mmcgrath at redhat.com Wed Feb 18 18:01:05 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:01:05 -0600 (CST) Subject: Plan for L10n for Fedora 11 In-Reply-To: <6d4237680902171549i7a9aecb5m333fd3e15853fce5@mail.gmail.com> References: <6d4237680902171549i7a9aecb5m333fd3e15853fce5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > I'm very happy to announce that we've now landed support for translation > statistics in Transifex. > > Lately we've been working heavily in re-writing Transifex and getting v0.5 in > the best shape possible for Fedora 11. Being 3 weeks ahead of the string > freeze, we have plenty of time to test statistics on Transifex 0.5-devel. > > For Fedora 11, my plan is to switch the old DL for Tx 0.5-devel for > statistics, and continue to use the proven Tx 0.3 for submissions. I've > requested [1] a publictest instance from the Infrastructure Group to install > it and start putting data and testing it. > > [1]: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1191 > > To allow 2 weeks of testing, the instance should be ready by 23/2. When we > see that everything works out as it should, we can discontinue the old DL. > > Our goal with Transifex 0.5 is to include support for both submissions and > statistics, and this way we can put aside our old version of Damned Lies which > is presenting outdated translations. Since only the commits are missing from > Tx 0.5-final, it'll be out in 3-4 weeks, and at that point we go on and test > submissions too, while having Tx 0.3 as a backup solution. > > Some of the advantages of this approach is that using the statistics from Tx > 0.5-devel does not even require hook-up with FAS (only submissions require > authentication), we have a smoother upgrade path for Django/v0.5 and we have a > codebase we know inside-out to build/invest on. > > On our roadmap post v0.5: > > - 0.5: Submissions to email,VCSs, probably bugzilla > - Comments everywhere > - Full API > - Integration with Bugzilla eg. for auto-closing of bugs > - Workflow functionality (lock a file, resolve bugs, request translation > review and others, comments) > - Fine-grained permissions on a per collection, release, projects, component, > language and file basis > - Support for people Teams and user groups > - Support for additional i18n formats (mozilla) > > Comments, suggestions? > Just an update on this - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1191#comment:8 -Mike From jeff at ocjtech.us Thu Feb 19 16:46:48 2009 From: jeff at ocjtech.us (Jeffrey Ollie) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:46:48 -0600 Subject: Potential project for Fedora Infrastructure newcomers: Deploy Review Board for use by hosted projects Message-ID: <935ead450902190846t14ae6697xca8272324fb47da8@mail.gmail.com> Hello newcomers to Fedora Infrastructure! There have been quite a few of you popping up lately, but there hasn't been a lot for you to do yet. Well here's your chance. I'd like to investigate adding Review Board as a service for Fedora Hosted projects. Review Board is a web based tool for managing code reviews. If this is something that you'd like to work on, here's an outline of what needs to happen. 1. Package Review Board for Fedora (and EPEL too, as Fedora Infrastructure typically deploys services on RHEL 5). This will be useful even if we decide not to deploy Review Board for Fedora Hosted. 2. Install & configure Review Board on a test system and figure out how to Puppetize the configs. 3. Get feedback from the community and decide if we want to deploy as production. 4. Assist in the deployment to production and help with day-to-day management. If you're interested, here's the ticket I'm using to track progress: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1196 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Fedora Infrastructure Date: Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:10 AM Subject: [Fedora Infrastructure] #1196: Deploy Review Board for use by hosted projects To: Cc: ricky at fedoraproject.org #1196: Deploy Review Board for use by hosted projects -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: jcollie | Owner: sysadmin-hosted-members at fedoraproject.org Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Component: Hosted Projects | Version: Severity: Normal | Keywords: -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Review Board is a tool for managing code reviews. Digium has been successfully using it to review code submissions for Asterisk for several months now. It would be very useful to offer this to hosted projects for their use. Home page: http://code.google.com/p/reviewboard/ Digium's installation: http://reviewboard.digium.com/ Review Board itself would need to be packaged, but it appears that all of the dependencies are already in Fedora: http://code.google.com/p/reviewboard/wiki/Host_Requirements -- Ticket URL: Fedora Infrastructure Fedora Infrastructure Project for Bugs, feature requests and access to our source code. -- Jeff Ollie "You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe." -- Marcus to Franklin in Babylon 5: "A Late Delivery from Avalon" From mmcgrath at redhat.com Thu Feb 19 16:56:29 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:56:29 -0600 (CST) Subject: introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Jony Cohen wrote: > Hi, my name is Jony > I'm 24 and have a B.Sc in math & computer science > I'm working as a sysadmin/sysdba on *nux\Oracle envirment for the last 5 years (the *nix includes RHEL 4,5, HP-UX, Tru64) > I've worked with clusters, web application servers and databases, where the main focus was on the DB and clusters. > I know python, perl, C, C++, Java, PL\SQL and of course bash, tcsh, awk... > > I guess my expirence as an Oracle DBA is not much of a use in your envirment... > > my user name in FAS is cohenjo > > I would like to join the following groups sysadmin-devel and sysadmin-dba (I understand that the 2nd group is restricted, > than lets start with devel...) > I guess NOC and tools would fit also... > > I'd like to contribute any way I can... just let me know what i can do :) > Welcome Jony, please do apply for the sysadmin group and I'll get you setup. Stop by #fedora-admin and come to the meeting today if you can make it. -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Thu Feb 19 16:57:46 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:57:46 -0600 (CST) Subject: Intro and an apology In-Reply-To: <499ABA27.2080008@glossolalie.org> References: <499ABA27.2080008@glossolalie.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Thierry Sayegh De Bellis wrote: > Apologies for hijacking a thread.... > > Hi all, > > my name is Thierry and while I attempted getting involved circa 2 years ago > [1] life took its toll in the form of redundancy with its aftermath and > international moves so, now that I am (somewhat) back in control, I would love > to finally get on with it and help. > As the message referenced below states I have been involved with sysadmin for > a reasonably long time and believe I can help. > My current occupation deals with a full overhaul of the monitoring > infrastructure for a public service using Nagios and a lot of packaging on the > side... > > I have read the GettingStarted, my FAS username is thierry. > Sweet, we love monitoring people. Have you by chance looked at zabbix? We're currently converting from nagios to zabbix and can always use some help and extra eyes with that. Feel free to apply for the sysadmin group and let me know so we can approve your status. -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Thu Feb 19 17:03:22 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:03:22 -0600 (CST) Subject: opengroupware evaluation Message-ID: I'd like one of our volunteers to install opengroupware on a publictest server for our evaluation. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1197 This is going to take between 5 and 15 hours a week. Don't volunteer unless you can commit that much time to it. -Mike From linux at glossolalie.org Thu Feb 19 17:10:43 2009 From: linux at glossolalie.org (Thierry) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:10:43 +0100 Subject: Intro and an apology In-Reply-To: References: <499ABA27.2080008@glossolalie.org> Message-ID: <499D9293.3060800@glossolalie.org> Mike McGrath a ?crit : > Feel free to apply for the sysadmin group > and let me know so we can approve your status. > > -Mike > I have applied for the sysadmin group. Zabbix is actually on my to-do list but because my current customers were using Nagios I was not given the opportunity to try something else. Although at this point we are actually officially ditching their old version next week after a 4 months complete overhaul. cheers Thierry From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 17:15:54 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:45:54 +0530 Subject: opengroupware evaluation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > I'd like one of our volunteers to install opengroupware on a publictest > server for our evaluation. > > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1197 > > This is going to take between 5 and 15 hours a week. Don't volunteer > unless you can commit that much time to it. I can commit some time from the coming week. (23rd.) If that is ok, I can do it. It has been long since I have something for Infra. :) Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from: Calcutta Wb India. From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 17:16:35 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:46:35 +0530 Subject: opengroupware evaluation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: done > It has been long since I have ^ something for Infra. :) -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from: Calcutta Wb India. From mmcgrath at redhat.com Thu Feb 19 17:22:02 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:22:02 -0600 (CST) Subject: opengroupware evaluation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 19 Feb 2009, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > > I'd like one of our volunteers to install opengroupware on a publictest > > server for our evaluation. > > > > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1197 > > > > This is going to take between 5 and 15 hours a week. Don't volunteer > > unless you can commit that much time to it. > > I can commit some time from the coming week. (23rd.) > If that is ok, I can do it. > It has been long since I have something for Infra. :) > Thanks. > > Works for me, I may partner a couple of people on this but ping me next week and we'll figure out what to do next. -Mike From rhanna at informatiq.org Thu Feb 19 19:16:08 2009 From: rhanna at informatiq.org (Ramez Hanna) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:16:08 +0200 Subject: Potential project for Fedora Infrastructure newcomers: Deploy Review Board for use by hosted projects In-Reply-To: <935ead450902190846t14ae6697xca8272324fb47da8@mail.gmail.com> References: <935ead450902190846t14ae6697xca8272324fb47da8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6a65d5240902191116o353460c3g30d61f6f238aba9c@mail.gmail.com> Hi, in the company where i work we have deployed reviewboard 3 month ago i did all the work I am not a member of any of the frdora sigs but i would love the chance to work my way in! I can start the test system for people to try out. and i can also start on packaging If you possible give me access to a test server and i'll do the work right away On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > Hello newcomers to Fedora Infrastructure! > > There have been quite a few of you popping up lately, but there hasn't > been a lot for you to do yet. Well here's your chance. I'd like to > investigate adding Review Board > as a service for Fedora Hosted > projects. Review Board is a web based tool for managing code reviews. > If this is something that you'd like to work on, here's an outline of > what needs to happen. > > 1. Package Review Board for Fedora (and EPEL too, as Fedora > Infrastructure typically deploys services on RHEL 5). This will be > useful even if we decide not to deploy Review Board for Fedora Hosted. > 2. Install & configure Review Board on a test system and figure out > how to Puppetize the configs. > 3. Get feedback from the community and decide if we want to deploy as > production. > 4. Assist in the deployment to production and help with day-to-day > management. > > If you're interested, here's the ticket I'm using to track progress: > > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1196 > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Fedora Infrastructure > Date: Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:10 AM > Subject: [Fedora Infrastructure] #1196: Deploy Review Board for use by > hosted projects > To: > Cc: ricky at fedoraproject.org > > > #1196: Deploy Review Board for use by hosted projects > > -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- > Reporter: jcollie | Owner: > sysadmin-hosted-members at fedoraproject.org > Type: enhancement | Status: new > Priority: minor | Milestone: > Component: Hosted Projects | Version: > Severity: Normal | Keywords: > > -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- > Review Board is a tool for managing code reviews. Digium has been > successfully using it to review code submissions for Asterisk for several > months now. It would be very useful to offer this to hosted projects for > their use. > > Home page: > http://code.google.com/p/reviewboard/ > > Digium's installation: > http://reviewboard.digium.com/ > > Review Board itself would need to be packaged, but it appears that all of > the dependencies are already in Fedora: > > http://code.google.com/p/reviewboard/wiki/Host_Requirements > > -- > Ticket URL: > Fedora Infrastructure > Fedora Infrastructure Project for Bugs, feature requests and access to > our source code. > > > -- > Jeff Ollie > > "You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then > I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the > terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve > them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and > unfairness of the universe." > > -- Marcus to Franklin in Babylon 5: "A Late Delivery from Avalon" > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeff at ocjtech.us Thu Feb 19 19:25:19 2009 From: jeff at ocjtech.us (Jeffrey Ollie) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:25:19 -0600 Subject: Potential project for Fedora Infrastructure newcomers: Deploy Review Board for use by hosted projects In-Reply-To: <6a65d5240902191116o353460c3g30d61f6f238aba9c@mail.gmail.com> References: <935ead450902190846t14ae6697xca8272324fb47da8@mail.gmail.com> <6a65d5240902191116o353460c3g30d61f6f238aba9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <935ead450902191125m12087f8g317dd75cad338e95@mail.gmail.com> 2009/2/19 Ramez Hanna : > > in the company where i work we have deployed reviewboard 3 month ago > i did all the work > > I am not a member of any of the frdora sigs but i would love the chance to > work my way in! Great! First off, you need to get set up as a packager: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Join and you'll want to start the process of joinging Fedora Infrastructure: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted You should also add yourself as a CC to the ticket: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1196 > I can start the test system for people to try out. and i can also start on > packaging > > If you possible give me access to a test server and i'll do the work right > away Since you're just starting out with us, let's get Review Board packaged and then we can get the test server set up. -- Jeff Ollie "You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe." -- Marcus to Franklin in Babylon 5: "A Late Delivery from Avalon" From mmcgrath at redhat.com Fri Feb 20 19:46:14 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:46:14 -0600 (CST) Subject: Infrastructure Tickets Message-ID: Just a reminder for you to all check your infrastructure tickets. If you are working on them, great. If not, unset them so we know and can assign them to someone else: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/7 -Mike From palango at gmx.de Fri Feb 20 20:29:04 2009 From: palango at gmx.de (Paul Lange) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:29:04 -0300 Subject: How to request a new mailing list Message-ID: <1235161744.3343.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello, I am a member of the Mono SIG. We would like to have a own mailing list. However the request template at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/RequestForResourcesTemplate seems unsuitable. In my eyes it's for projects that require stronger web- and hardware-resources. Can you point me to the right place to ask for the creation of a new mailing list? Thank you! Paul -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From mmcgrath at redhat.com Fri Feb 20 21:36:55 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:36:55 -0600 (CST) Subject: How to request a new mailing list In-Reply-To: <1235161744.3343.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1235161744.3343.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Paul Lange wrote: > Hello, > > I am a member of the Mono SIG. We would like to have a own mailing list. > > However the request template at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/RequestForResourcesTemplate > seems unsuitable. In my eyes it's for projects that require stronger > web- and hardware-resources. > > Can you point me to the right place to ask for the creation of a new > mailing list? > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ Log in and file a ticket. -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Fri Feb 20 22:03:07 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:03:07 -0600 (CST) Subject: Outage Notification - 2009-02-21 14:00 UTC Message-ID: There will be an outage starting at 2009-02-21 14:00 UTC, which will last approximately 1 hour. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2009-02-21 14:00 UTC' Affected Services: Buildsystem CVS / Source Control Database DNS Fedora Hosted Fedora People Fedora Talk Mail Mirror System Torrent Translation Services Websites Unaffected Services: None Ticket Link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1199 Reason for Outage: Rebooting all the servers to take in new kernel update. You will note this will take place 1 hour _before_ the koji update and fsck which is scheduled for the entire weekend. This is another friendly reminder of that. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage. From kolesov_dv at mail.ru Sat Feb 21 13:51:58 2009 From: kolesov_dv at mail.ru (Dmitry Kolesov) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:51:58 +0300 Subject: tiket #86 Message-ID: Hello Toshio. It is channges for the pkgdb-client what I did if I understood You right: 200c200,203 < pkgdb.clone_branch(package, branch, options.masterBranch) --- > if options.masterBranch: > pkgdb.clone_branch(package, branch, options.masterBranch) > else: > pkgdb.clone_branch(package, branch, 'devel') -Dmitry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: pkgdb-client.patch Type: application/x-patch Size: 251 bytes Desc: not available URL: From frankc.fedora at gmail.com Sat Feb 21 16:58:42 2009 From: frankc.fedora at gmail.com (Frank Chiulli) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:58:42 -0800 Subject: Infrastructure Tickets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Mike McGrath wrote: > Just a reminder for you to all check your infrastructure tickets. If you > are working on them, great. If not, unset them so we know and can assign > them to someone else: > > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/7 > > -Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > Mike, I have one ticket: #116 Fedora Poll. It is waiting on WordPress-MU. I checked Ticket #178 but nothing has been posted since early December. Just so you know, I'm still interested in working this when they get wp-mu up and running. So I'm going to leave my name on it. I've also added myself to the CC list for Ticket #178. BTW, I've also been working with Toshio on packagedb. Later, Frank From a.badger at gmail.com Sun Feb 22 18:34:57 2009 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 10:34:57 -0800 Subject: tiket #86 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A19AD1.1070702@gmail.com> Dmitry Kolesov wrote: > Hello Toshio. > It is channges for the pkgdb-client what I did if I understood You right: > > Excellent! It looks like I put you on to the wrong code path, though :-(. When I went to merge this I realized that we don't call clone_branch unless options.masterBranch is already set so this code would never be invoked. I'm thinking that this ticket might have been obsoleted when we created the --master command to clone branches. Go ahead and close the ticket and let me know what you'd like to work on next. -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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A final Done email will be sent when you can submit builds again. Thanks for your paitence. Dennis From dennis at ausil.us Mon Feb 23 05:16:47 2009 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:16:47 -0600 Subject: Outage Notification - Koji, plague 2009-02-21 15:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <49A21486.1070403@ausil.us> References: <200902132155.10992.dennis@ausil.us> <62bc09df0902220252v441d6289y886834d236ebb209@mail.gmail.com> <49A21486.1070403@ausil.us> Message-ID: <49A2313F.60508@ausil.us> Dennis Gilmore wrote: > Xavier Lamien wrote: >> 2009/2/14 Dennis Gilmore : >> >>> There will be an outage starting at 2009-02-21 15:00 UTC, which will >>> last >>> approximately 48 hours. >>> >>> To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto >>> or run: >>> >>> date -d '2009-02-21 15:00 UTC' >>> >>> Affected Services: >>> >>> Buildsystem (koji and plague) >>> >>> Unaffected Services: >>> CVS / Source Control >>> Database >>> DNS >>> Fedora Hosted >>> Fedora People >>> Fedora Talk >>> Mail >>> Mirror System >>> Torrent >>> Translation Services >>> Websites >>> >>> Ticket Link: >>> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1187 >>> >>> Reason for Outage: >>> Maintenance of /mnt/koji filesystem, >>> koji DB Maintainence >>> Upgrade koji to support EPEL, noarch subpackages, srpm's built in a >>> chroot. >>> along with lots of bug fixes. >>> >>> Contact Information: >>> >>> Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this >>> email to >>> track the status of this outage. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list >>> Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list >>> >>> >>> >> >> Just a heads-up >> The outage is still going >> > This is still ongoing. A final Done email will be sent when you can > submit builds again. > > Thanks for your paitence. > > Dennis This has been completed and building is back to normal. please report any odd failures. there has been a very large change in koji. noarch subpackages are now supported, which needs srpms to be built in a chroot. the last of F-11's features that needed koji chanes are now ready to deploy. Dennis From rayvd at bludgeon.org Mon Feb 23 05:37:22 2009 From: rayvd at bludgeon.org (Ray Van Dolson) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:37:22 -0800 Subject: Outage Notification - Koji, plague 2009-02-21 15:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <49A2313F.60508@ausil.us> References: <200902132155.10992.dennis@ausil.us> <62bc09df0902220252v441d6289y886834d236ebb209@mail.gmail.com> <49A21486.1070403@ausil.us> <49A2313F.60508@ausil.us> Message-ID: <20090223053722.GA5773@bludgeon.org> > This has been completed and building is back to normal. please report any > odd failures. there has been a very large change in koji. > noarch subpackages are now supported, which needs srpms to be built in a > chroot. the last of F-11's features that needed koji chanes are now ready > to deploy. I'm not sure if this is related but I'm having issues building in plague for EPEL: http://buildsys.fedoraproject.org/logs/fedora-5-epel/1529-pyodbc-2.1.4-3.el5/ppc/job.log Seems like python is missing from the buildroot there? I've double checked and rebuilt my package under my own mock environment a few times so I'm really hoping this isn't a goof on my part.... Ray From rayvd at bludgeon.org Mon Feb 23 16:14:19 2009 From: rayvd at bludgeon.org (Ray Van Dolson) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:14:19 -0800 Subject: Outage Notification - Koji, plague 2009-02-21 15:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <20090223053722.GA5773@bludgeon.org> References: <200902132155.10992.dennis@ausil.us> <62bc09df0902220252v441d6289y886834d236ebb209@mail.gmail.com> <49A21486.1070403@ausil.us> <49A2313F.60508@ausil.us> <20090223053722.GA5773@bludgeon.org> Message-ID: <20090223161419.GB16047@bludgeon.org> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 09:37:22PM -0800, Ray Van Dolson wrote: > > This has been completed and building is back to normal. please report any > > odd failures. there has been a very large change in koji. > > noarch subpackages are now supported, which needs srpms to be built in a > > chroot. the last of F-11's features that needed koji chanes are now ready > > to deploy. > > I'm not sure if this is related but I'm having issues building in > plague for EPEL: > > http://buildsys.fedoraproject.org/logs/fedora-5-epel/1529-pyodbc-2.1.4-3.el5/ppc/job.log > > Seems like python is missing from the buildroot there? I've double > checked and rebuilt my package under my own mock environment a few > times so I'm really hoping this isn't a goof on my part.... > I don't think this is just a problem with my one package -- just tried rebuilding an older package I maintain that hasn't changed in a long time and always has built fine before: http://buildsys.fedoraproject.org/logs/fedora-5-epel/1536-pymssql-0.8.0-2.el5/ppc/job.log Same python error. I'll file an issue for this in Trac once I get to the office so just an FYI! Thanks, Ray From mmcgrath at redhat.com Mon Feb 23 17:37:44 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:37:44 -0600 (CST) Subject: Outage Notification - Koji, plague 2009-02-21 15:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <20090223161419.GB16047@bludgeon.org> References: <200902132155.10992.dennis@ausil.us> <62bc09df0902220252v441d6289y886834d236ebb209@mail.gmail.com> <49A21486.1070403@ausil.us> <49A2313F.60508@ausil.us> <20090223053722.GA5773@bludgeon.org> <20090223161419.GB16047@bludgeon.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Ray Van Dolson wrote: > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 09:37:22PM -0800, Ray Van Dolson wrote: > > > This has been completed and building is back to normal. please report any > > > odd failures. there has been a very large change in koji. > > > noarch subpackages are now supported, which needs srpms to be built in a > > > chroot. the last of F-11's features that needed koji chanes are now ready > > > to deploy. > > > > I'm not sure if this is related but I'm having issues building in > > plague for EPEL: > > > > http://buildsys.fedoraproject.org/logs/fedora-5-epel/1529-pyodbc-2.1.4-3.el5/ppc/job.log > > > > Seems like python is missing from the buildroot there? I've double > > checked and rebuilt my package under my own mock environment a few > > times so I'm really hoping this isn't a goof on my part.... > > > > I don't think this is just a problem with my one package -- just tried > rebuilding an older package I maintain that hasn't changed in a long > time and always has built fine before: > > http://buildsys.fedoraproject.org/logs/fedora-5-epel/1536-pymssql-0.8.0-2.el5/ppc/job.log > > Same python error. > > I'll file an issue for this in Trac once I get to the office so just an > FYI! > Thanks for this Ray, I think dennis is looking into epel builds now. -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Mon Feb 23 18:36:02 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:36:02 -0600 (CST) Subject: security policy addition Message-ID: Hey all, I've added an additional "Self Access" policy to our security policy: http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/csi/security-policy/en-US/html-single/ "Admins and users must not give themselves access to resources unless it is an emergency or a setup issue. Follow normal steps to get in a group and sponsored by someone." Also note that anyone in our sysadmin group with shell access to our servers must be fully compliant with the security standard by the end of March. -Mike From rhanna at informatiq.org Mon Feb 23 19:17:31 2009 From: rhanna at informatiq.org (Ramez Hanna) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:17:31 +0200 Subject: Potential project for Fedora Infrastructure newcomers: Deploy Review Board for use by hosted projects In-Reply-To: <935ead450902191125m12087f8g317dd75cad338e95@mail.gmail.com> References: <935ead450902190846t14ae6697xca8272324fb47da8@mail.gmail.com> <6a65d5240902191116o353460c3g30d61f6f238aba9c@mail.gmail.com> <935ead450902191125m12087f8g317dd75cad338e95@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6a65d5240902231117p3395f37ve1b2e4e56b935790@mail.gmail.com> one component of reviewboard is available as .egg file would it be ok if i use the .egg file as Source1 or better package it as rpm too? On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > 2009/2/19 Ramez Hanna : > > > > in the company where i work we have deployed reviewboard 3 month ago > > i did all the work > > > > I am not a member of any of the frdora sigs but i would love the chance > to > > work my way in! > > Great! First off, you need to get set up as a packager: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Join > > and you'll want to start the process of joinging Fedora Infrastructure: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted > > You should also add yourself as a CC to the ticket: > > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1196 > > > I can start the test system for people to try out. and i can also start > on > > packaging > > > > If you possible give me access to a test server and i'll do the work > right > > away > > Since you're just starting out with us, let's get Review Board > packaged and then we can get the test server set up. > > -- > Jeff Ollie > > "You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then > I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the > terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve > them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and > unfairness of the universe." > > -- Marcus to Franklin in Babylon 5: "A Late Delivery from Avalon" > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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See: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Python/Eggs#Upstream_Eggs For lots of good tips on packaging Python modules see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Python https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Python/Eggs -- Jeff Ollie From rhanna at informatiq.org Mon Feb 23 20:12:05 2009 From: rhanna at informatiq.org (Ramez Hanna) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:12:05 +0200 Subject: Potential project for Fedora Infrastructure newcomers: Deploy Review Board for use by hosted projects In-Reply-To: <935ead450902231141j164dd808u823d99b368951490@mail.gmail.com> References: <935ead450902190846t14ae6697xca8272324fb47da8@mail.gmail.com> <6a65d5240902191116o353460c3g30d61f6f238aba9c@mail.gmail.com> <935ead450902191125m12087f8g317dd75cad338e95@mail.gmail.com> <6a65d5240902231117p3395f37ve1b2e4e56b935790@mail.gmail.com> <935ead450902231141j164dd808u823d99b368951490@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6a65d5240902231212n2b749505ua27f9c921779084f@mail.gmail.com> i already have rb packaged now need to do djblets On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > 2009/2/23 Ramez Hanna : > > one component of reviewboard is available as .egg file would it be ok if > i > > use the .egg file as Source1 or better package it as rpm too? > > You'll want to use the .tar.gz files and package Djblets and Review > Board separately. See: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Python/Eggs#Upstream_Eggs > > For lots of good tips on packaging Python modules see: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Python > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Python/Eggs > > -- > Jeff Ollie > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rhanna at informatiq.org Mon Feb 23 22:02:58 2009 From: rhanna at informatiq.org (Ramez Hanna) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 00:02:58 +0200 Subject: Potential project for Fedora Infrastructure newcomers: Deploy Review Board for use by hosted projects In-Reply-To: <6a65d5240902231212n2b749505ua27f9c921779084f@mail.gmail.com> References: <935ead450902190846t14ae6697xca8272324fb47da8@mail.gmail.com> <6a65d5240902191116o353460c3g30d61f6f238aba9c@mail.gmail.com> <935ead450902191125m12087f8g317dd75cad338e95@mail.gmail.com> <6a65d5240902231117p3395f37ve1b2e4e56b935790@mail.gmail.com> <935ead450902231141j164dd808u823d99b368951490@mail.gmail.com> <6a65d5240902231212n2b749505ua27f9c921779084f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6a65d5240902231402u5d0a6e23xcfefd20c436ced03@mail.gmail.com> The packages and spec files if someone would like to review http://informatiq.org/files/ReviewBoard-1.0alpha4-1.fc10.noarch.rpm http://informatiq.org/files/reviewboard.spec http://informatiq.org/files/Djblets-0.5alpha3-1.fc10.noarch.rpm http://informatiq.org/files/djblets.spec On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Ramez Hanna wrote: > i already have rb packaged now need to do djblets > > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > >> 2009/2/23 Ramez Hanna : >> > one component of reviewboard is available as .egg file would it be ok if >> i >> > use the .egg file as Source1 or better package it as rpm too? >> >> You'll want to use the .tar.gz files and package Djblets and Review >> Board separately. 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I am back. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from: Kolkata West Bengal India. From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue Feb 24 03:23:49 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:23:49 -0700 Subject: opengroupware evaluation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 7:27 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: >> Works for me, I may partner a couple of people on this but ping me next >> week and we'll figure out what to do next. > > ping. > I am back. > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > Whoa! How did I miss this? I can help with this if that's to be one of the tools we use to evaluate for calendaring. I'm also interested in installing some of the other servers if that's a viable option as I think some of the other tools might be as useful, if not more. I'm seriously interested in helping to install and maintain the calendar server we choose, so I hope I'm not out of line here. Cheers, Clint From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Feb 24 04:32:12 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:32:12 -0600 (CST) Subject: QA! Message-ID: If you all have some time tomorrow go through here and pick an item out of the matrix and test it: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_Alpha_Install_Test_Results The earlier we find problems the better F11 will be. Seeing as most of us on the list have a lot of admin background, doing simple installs should be easy :) -Mike From om.sysadmin at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 04:32:23 2009 From: om.sysadmin at gmail.com (Omkar Phadke) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:02:23 +0530 Subject: QA! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7d1992230902242032m4e19587fsb36873852f08beca@mail.gmail.com> Hello Mike, I am a bit busy in College Pracs n Exams Preparations but for the new release features, I would like to suggest something like support for the Printers like Lexmark X1100 and so on.I didn't found the support for it.Plz if Fedora Community could see into it. I am sorry if I have said anything beyond the scope of this group but we have to look into it ... ~Omkar~ On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Mike McGrath wrote: > If you all have some time tomorrow go through here and pick an item out of > the matrix and test it: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_Alpha_Install_Test_Results > > The earlier we find problems the better F11 will be. Seeing as most of us > on the list have a lot of admin background, doing simple installs should > be easy :) > > -Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nadim at sega.vg Thu Feb 26 12:15:50 2009 From: nadim at sega.vg (Nadim Kobeissi) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:15:50 +0200 Subject: Introduction Message-ID: <511e85e80902260415n7802b4f5w288350d4d59315d3@mail.gmail.com> Hi! My name is Nadim. I'm a psychology sophmore and computer science minor at the Lebanese American University in Beirut, Lebanon. I became acquainted with Fedora after deciding to try it after three years of Gentoo Linux usage on various servers and desktops I've built and maintained throughout. I found Fedora to be an awesome distribution, and having had much experience with Gentoo server building and administration (I've set up many servers for my university and am the founder of Anapnea, the Open Gentoo Linux shell server (http://anapnea.net)), I felt that maybe I could contribute with my time and skill to help out with the Fedora project as much as I can, in whatever area I am capable to help in. I'll be attending today's IRC fedora-meeting, and I look forward to being able to contribute!! -- Nadim Kobeissi http://nadim.cc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adrian at lisas.de Thu Feb 26 15:41:38 2009 From: adrian at lisas.de (Adrian Reber) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:41:38 +0100 Subject: error syncing from secondary Message-ID: <20090226154138.GK13480@lisas.de> rsyncing from secondary I get following error: rsync: send_files failed to open "/releases/test/9-Beta/Fedora/source/SRPMS/.kernel-2.6.27.12-78.2.9.fc9.src.rpm.U3tJXy" (in fedora-secondary): Permission denied (13) Adrian From dennis at ausil.us Thu Feb 26 16:27:04 2009 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:27:04 -0600 Subject: error syncing from secondary In-Reply-To: <20090226154138.GK13480@lisas.de> References: <20090226154138.GK13480@lisas.de> Message-ID: <200902261027.05202.dennis@ausil.us> On Thursday 26 February 2009 09:41:38 am Adrian Reber wrote: > rsyncing from secondary I get following error: > > rsync: send_files failed to open > "/releases/test/9-Beta/Fedora/source/SRPMS/.kernel-2.6.27.12-78.2.9.fc9.src >.rpm.U3tJXy" (in fedora-secondary): Permission denied (13) > > Adrian Fixed thanks Dennis From mmcgrath at redhat.com Thu Feb 26 21:04:19 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:04:19 -0600 (CST) Subject: error syncing from secondary In-Reply-To: <200902261027.05202.dennis@ausil.us> References: <20090226154138.GK13480@lisas.de> <200902261027.05202.dennis@ausil.us> Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > On Thursday 26 February 2009 09:41:38 am Adrian Reber wrote: > > rsyncing from secondary I get following error: > > > > rsync: send_files failed to open > > "/releases/test/9-Beta/Fedora/source/SRPMS/.kernel-2.6.27.12-78.2.9.fc9.src > >.rpm.U3tJXy" (in fedora-secondary): Permission denied (13) > > > > Adrian > Fixed thanks > I wonder how these keep popping up. -Mike From dennis at ausil.us Thu Feb 26 21:35:35 2009 From: dennis at ausil.us (Dennis Gilmore) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:35:35 -0600 Subject: error syncing from secondary In-Reply-To: References: <20090226154138.GK13480@lisas.de> <200902261027.05202.dennis@ausil.us> Message-ID: <200902261535.36209.dennis@ausil.us> On Thursday 26 February 2009 03:04:19 pm Mike McGrath wrote: > On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > On Thursday 26 February 2009 09:41:38 am Adrian Reber wrote: > > > rsyncing from secondary I get following error: > > > > > > rsync: send_files failed to open > > > "/releases/test/9-Beta/Fedora/source/SRPMS/.kernel-2.6.27.12-78.2.9.fc9 > > >.src .rpm.U3tJXy" (in fedora-secondary): Permission denied (13) > > > > > > Adrian > > > > Fixed thanks > > I wonder how these keep popping up. interupted rsyncs I need to fully automate the process Dennis From mmcgrath at redhat.com Fri Feb 27 02:31:34 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:31:34 -0600 (CST) Subject: error syncing from secondary In-Reply-To: <200902261535.36209.dennis@ausil.us> References: <20090226154138.GK13480@lisas.de> <200902261027.05202.dennis@ausil.us> <200902261535.36209.dennis@ausil.us> Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > On Thursday 26 February 2009 03:04:19 pm Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > > On Thursday 26 February 2009 09:41:38 am Adrian Reber wrote: > > > > rsyncing from secondary I get following error: > > > > > > > > rsync: send_files failed to open > > > > "/releases/test/9-Beta/Fedora/source/SRPMS/.kernel-2.6.27.12-78.2.9.fc9 > > > >.src .rpm.U3tJXy" (in fedora-secondary): Permission denied (13) > > > > > > > > Adrian > > > > > > Fixed thanks > > > > I wonder how these keep popping up. > interupted rsyncs > > I need to fully automate the process > Does rsync have a.. uhh, like cleanup mode or anything? Or maybe we could have the rsync daemon ignore the .* files? -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Fri Feb 27 20:17:15 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:17:15 -0600 (CST) Subject: Slight shift in our application strategy Message-ID: Background: Shortly after we started scaling out to remote sites we noticed some parts of some of our applications had issues over the vpn link. Initial ticket creation was a bit off as to what we were looking at but: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/281 To try to keep this short: after lots of tests we discovered that applications that run lots of queries are the core of our issue. We have ok bandwidth to all of our sites, but latency is high enough that it's become too expensive to actively run applications at these sites. Every query that gets run at a remote site seems to take a minimum of .3 to .5 seconds for the complete round-trip. As we mature and as features get in lots of our apps need more queries. We can and should go through and make these more efficient but that's going to happen over a long time. We just don't have the number of people we need to do trends on each page of each application and convert all the sql to its most efficient. Instead we're going to convert all of our remote application servers to passive/backup servers. Up until now we've generally been using our remote sites to scale load. Now though we can't really do that. They're an important role for being fairly HA (our SPOF is still our data layer). Having a multi-master data layer of postgres and mysql just won't be a win for us at our size at this time. So what does this mean for the future? Our scaling issues at our app layer will just have to be in a centralized location. This won't scale forever but I think for the near and middle term in Fedora's future it's what we're going to have to bank on. We can continue to focus on better caching at our proxy layer which will continue to be active at each remote site. All of what I've written here is probably very obvious to most of you, and it is. The difference now is we have some much better data concerning the interaction between our app servers and the data layer and better metrics for how long those interactions take. So darnit, I'm not going to spend all the time I did with testing and metrics and not write some long summary about it! :) -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Fri Feb 27 22:52:52 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:52:52 -0600 (CST) Subject: opengroupware evaluation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 19 Feb 2009, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > > I'd like one of our volunteers to install opengroupware on a publictest > > server for our evaluation. > > > > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1197 > > > > This is going to take between 5 and 15 hours a week. Don't volunteer > > unless you can commit that much time to it. > > I can commit some time from the coming week. (23rd.) > If that is ok, I can do it. > It has been long since I have something for Infra. :) > Thanks. > Just checking in, how did things go? Any updates? Any one else interested in joining susmit to get this up and running? -Mike From tjdavisbz at gmail.com Sat Feb 28 00:10:04 2009 From: tjdavisbz at gmail.com (TJ Davis) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:10:04 -0600 Subject: opengroupware evaluation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <64677a960902271610t5ea52e5eh3462d3c86fba2ec7@mail.gmail.com> I can spare a few hours a week to work on it. I might need someone to mentor me on it if that is an option because I am new other than the time that I was looking at the redundant OpenVPN scenarios with you. What groups would I need to apply for? Username is tjdavisbz. TJ Davis On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Feb 2009, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Mike McGrath > wrote: > > > I'd like one of our volunteers to install opengroupware on a publictest > > > server for our evaluation. > > > > > > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1197 > > > > > > This is going to take between 5 and 15 hours a week. Don't volunteer > > > unless you can commit that much time to it. > > > > I can commit some time from the coming week. (23rd.) > > If that is ok, I can do it. > > It has been long since I have something for Infra. :) > > Thanks. > > > > Just checking in, how did things go? 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URL: From herlo1 at gmail.com Sat Feb 28 00:44:18 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:44:18 -0700 Subject: opengroupware evaluation In-Reply-To: <64677a960902271610t5ea52e5eh3462d3c86fba2ec7@mail.gmail.com> References: <64677a960902271610t5ea52e5eh3462d3c86fba2ec7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2009/2/27 TJ Davis : > I can spare a few hours a week to work on it. ?I might need someone to > mentor me on it if that is an option because I am new other than the time > that I was looking at the redundant OpenVPN scenarios with you. ?What groups > would I need to apply for? ?Username is tjdavisbz. > > > TJ Davis > > TJ, Welcome. Join the sysadmin-test group in FAS. I'm in the same boat as you, a few hours to spare every week. Cheers, Clint From tjdavisbz at gmail.com Sat Feb 28 01:20:56 2009 From: tjdavisbz at gmail.com (TJ Davis) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:20:56 -0600 Subject: opengroupware evaluation In-Reply-To: References: <64677a960902271610t5ea52e5eh3462d3c86fba2ec7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <64677a960902271720x21265b4fpf6dad222fc46a669@mail.gmail.com> Thanks, I have applied for sysadmin-test. TJ Davis On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Clint Savage wrote: > 2009/2/27 TJ Davis : > > I can spare a few hours a week to work on it. I might need someone to > > mentor me on it if that is an option because I am new other than the time > > that I was looking at the redundant OpenVPN scenarios with you. What > groups > > would I need to apply for? Username is tjdavisbz. > > > > > > TJ Davis > > > > > TJ, > > Welcome. Join the sysadmin-test group in FAS. I'm in the same boat > as you, a few hours to spare every week. > > Cheers, > > Clint > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmcgrath at redhat.com Sat Feb 28 02:04:32 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:04:32 -0600 (CST) Subject: opengroupware evaluation In-Reply-To: <64677a960902271720x21265b4fpf6dad222fc46a669@mail.gmail.com> References: <64677a960902271610t5ea52e5eh3462d3c86fba2ec7@mail.gmail.com> <64677a960902271720x21265b4fpf6dad222fc46a669@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, TJ Davis wrote: > Thanks, I have applied for sysadmin-test. > Right now susmit has lead on this but I'm not sure what his time constraints are over the next couple of weeks. If he's busy I'll just make sure you guys all have access and can hammer away at it a couple of hours at a time. -Mike > > TJ Davis > > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Clint Savage wrote: > 2009/2/27 TJ Davis : > > I can spare a few hours a week to work on it. ?I might need someone to > > mentor me on it if that is an option because I am new other than the time > > that I was looking at the redundant OpenVPN scenarios with you. ?What groups > > would I need to apply for? ?Username is tjdavisbz. > > > > > > TJ Davis > > > > > TJ, > > Welcome. ?Join the sysadmin-test group in FAS. ?I'm in the same boat > as you, a few hours to spare every week. > > Cheers, > > Clint > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > > > >