<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 12, 2007 2:47 AM, Jonathan Steffan <<a href="mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org">email@example.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:55:47 -0500<br>Michael DeHaan <<a href="mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org">email@example.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:<br>> > Mike McGrath wrote:<br>
> >>> and we were going to<br>> >>>> judge jigdo a success if a certain % (compared to bittorrent)<br>> >>>> use jigdo. What % would that be?<br>> >>><br>> >>> Jigdo would in this case be particularly useful to those with a
<br>> >>> local mirror as they have 99% of the content already (90% if you<br>> >>> have F9T3?). Because it is particularly useful to some, and<br>> >>> completely weird and strange for others, the number of users that
<br>> >>> will use it if BitTorrent is an alternative wouldn't be a very<br>> >>> good indicator to see if it is actually a viable distribution<br>> >>> method for the whole of Fedora, neither is it the goal for these
<br>> >>> proposals.<br>> >><br>> >> I'm talking specifically about people going to the get-fedora page<br>> >> and clicking on the torrent link vs the jigdo link. Out of every<br>
> >> 100 people, how many people will click on the jigdo link?<br>> >><br></div><div class="Ih2E3d">> Jigdo did not seem to be very popular among anyone I talked to once<br>> they figured out the minimal install images were available.
<br><br></div>I will admit, our poll on <a href="http://spins.fedoraunity.org" target="_blank">spins.fedoraunity.org</a> showed that more users<br>want to use BitTorrent. I still think these users just had no concept<br>of what Jigdo is *good* at and were left to deal with our growing pains
<br>setting everything up. We do apologize for that. We do, however, 110%<br>support Jigdo in many cases:<br><br>* Testing images can easily be "upgraded" to the next release, only<br>downloading what has changed
<br>* Re-Spins: The same goes for Re-Spins, an end users (and the testers)<br>can easily "update" their ISO, again, only having to download what has<br>changed<br>* Any Spin: Not all mirrors chose to carry the ISO images. A next-hop
<br>or local mirror might not be available with the ISO images for direct<br>download. This very close mirror will be able to be used to "put<br>together" the ISO image and with our awesome new MirrorManager the
<br>acquisition of this data source will be automatic.<br>* Bandwidth Optimization/Utilization: We are able to utilize mirrors<br>around the globe without requiring mirror admins to think twice about<br>hosting Jigdo data, they already are hosting most of the data needed to
<br>put the image back together and have to install no additional software<br>(as in the case of running a torrent seed.)<br>* Official Releases: This "letter" was directed at requesting all<br>updates be archived in some form; this bullet is about official
<br>releases. These official releases will *always* be able to be hosted<br>via Jigdo with *very little* additional storage requirements because<br>the Fedora and Everything trees that were composed against are exploded<br>
and hosted indefinitely.</blockquote><div> </div><div>Jigdo support will be a fantastic addition definitely. Bandwidth is very costly in my country. So, using jigdo makes a lot of sense to me.<br>Have not yet done it just for proper knowhow.