Switching Fedora to pae kernel by default?
Christopher Brown
snecklifter at gmail.com
Wed Jan 21 18:37:57 UTC 2009
2009/1/21 Avi Kivity <avi at redhat.com>:
> Christopher Brown wrote:
>>
>> May I point out that those that care enough to want PAE usually know
>> how to go about getting it enabled whereas those that have install
>> failure because they're running non-PAE hardware probably wont know
>> how to go about getting it disabled.
>>
>
> You mean, ordinary users don't care about security? Because that's one of
> the advantages that PAE brings.
No, I meant ordinary users don't care about anything over 2GB.
> You're right, they don't care, we have to care for them.
They do care about security but want it to be easy. Or simply don't
want to have to care.
>> The fall-out from this going onto the livecd makes me shudder.
>>
>
> You're pushing out a development problem to the users.
Um, no. I'm simply against cutting out a tranche of people because of
the needs of the few. We have x86_64 Live anyway.
>> The original argument that many machines have 4GB of memory is simply
>> false.
>
> My ~3yo home box has 4GB. I'm not an ordinary user (or it would be a
> computer, not a "box"), but I don't think you can claim 4GB is rare.
Rare for this use case, yes.
>> Manufacturers aren't shipping anything more than 2GB on
>> desktops at most unless you have oodles of money to throw at a
>> Alienware box or something. Sure, servers come with more but Fedora is
>> not really a reality for a long term server O.S
>
> Servers should use x86_64 anyway. But I strongly disagree about penalizing
> the future to cater for the past.
I'm not sure you're penalizing the past, I think this is penalizing the present.
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Christopher Brown
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