From whenry at redhat.com Thu Jun 4 17:04:30 2009 From: whenry at redhat.com (William Henry) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:04:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: F10 on Lenovo T61 issue In-Reply-To: <8304962d0902281751if144b5dk200f55fd5d2a2bc6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1163823147.2511421244135070020.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> Hi Miguel, Just thought I'd give you an update. I've been running Fedora 10 for several weeks now with few problems. I think the biggest issue was the video card in the lenovo and I will make sure that I look into video the next time I purchase a laptop. When I disable compiz many of the issues go away. It would be nice to have some of the compiz features but under the current hardware it seems T61/Fedora 10 with compiz is not an option. (I just see memory creep and CPU utilization crawl upwards to where it's not usable and then crashes.) But I'm now using F10 on my T61 in a fairly stable way for several weeks. If anyone can give me a recommendation for a good laptop spec. for my next purchase please let me know. Thanks. Best, William ----- "Miguel Angel Perez" wrote: > > > > 2009/3/1 William Henry < whenry at redhat.com > > > > > ----- "Miguel Angel Perez" < mangelp at gmail.com > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > > > 2009/2/27 William Henry < whenry at redhat.com > > > Hi, > > > > I've seen others have this problem and I've seen a BZ regarding it. Its the "mouse still moves but can't do anything with the keyboard or mouse input' problem. Requires a hardware reboot. > > > > I've given up on Fedora for a while until I see this fixed. I don't have time for multiple reboots a day and the risk of losing data. > > > > I've also seen issues with NetworkManager. > > > Make sure there are bug reports filled. > > > > WH: I've seen this bug already reported. > > > > > > I'm sadly disappointed with F10. > > > I'm sorry you are dissapointed with Fedora and sad because your propietary stuff doesn't work on it. Fedora as a distro doesn't have nothing to do with such complains as they happen due a lack of proper driver implementation as some companies still refuses to support linux or because a software component is not working properly. In both cases Fedora doesn't directly develop the drivers or the components that doesn't work and you should get your complain to the upstream projects so they can fix it sometime or fill a bug report to Fedora so they can report upstream and apply patches as the come in. > > WH: Huh? proprietary stuff?? No idea what you are talking about unless you mean the hardware. > Yes i was talking about the hardware. Having proper support for all brand new hw is quite difficult if the hw vendor doesn't support linux. > > > > > > > > > If you feel that other modern distros works better where Fedora fails you should check them but we all use the same linux kernel and same X.org so lack of hardware support is a common pain. > > WH: I'm running RHEL which is more stable. But I like to do other work on Fedora and was hoping Fedora 10 was more stable. I realize there are a lot of different hardware platforms out there and it is difficult to support. I'm a bit surpprised because there are so many Lenova T6x around I thought that it would have been tested more and there more stable. > > I don't know how many hardware platforms they have to test new releases but i'm pretty sure that the real testing is done when a new release comes out and we upgrade Fedora to the next version. A lot of things can happen then. > > > > TBW this seemed to get worse the last few weeks so I wonder if some of my updates made the issue much more frequent. > > They must be fighting the bugs :), but still is too soon to have them fixed. I've run in a lot of problems with NetworkManager with F9 and F10 that only got solved after the hw driver got properly fixed (intel wifi driver). > > > > Best, > William > > > > > > > > Regards, > > William > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-laptop-list mailing list > > Fedora-laptop-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Miguel ?ngel P?rez > > > > _______________________________________________ Fedora-laptop-list mailing list Fedora-laptop-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list > > -- > Regards, > Miguel ?ngel P?rez > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jos at xos.nl Thu Jun 4 17:11:24 2009 From: jos at xos.nl (Jos Vos) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:11:24 +0200 Subject: F10 on Lenovo T61 issue In-Reply-To: <1163823147.2511421244135070020.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> References: <8304962d0902281751if144b5dk200f55fd5d2a2bc6@mail.gmail.com> <1163823147.2511421244135070020.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090604171124.GB11724@jasmine.xos.nl> On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 01:04:30PM -0400, William Henry wrote: > Just thought I'd give you an update. I've been running Fedora 10 for > several weeks now with few problems. I think the biggest issue was the > video card in the lenovo and I will make sure that I look into video > the next time I purchase a laptop. When I disable compiz many of the > issues go away. It would be nice to have some of the compiz features but > under the current hardware it seems T61/Fedora 10 with compiz is not an > option. (I just see memory creep and CPU utilization crawl upwards to > where it's not usable and then crashes.) Lenovo's T61 (I think the model is EOL) is there in many, many variants, which makes it extremely difficult to talk in generic terms about a T61. At least it's good to know video chipset, screen size, and the driver used. -- -- Jos Vos -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 From mangelp at gmail.com Thu Jun 4 17:32:54 2009 From: mangelp at gmail.com (Miguel Angel Perez) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:32:54 +0200 Subject: F10 on Lenovo T61 issue In-Reply-To: <1163823147.2511421244135070020.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> References: <8304962d0902281751if144b5dk200f55fd5d2a2bc6@mail.gmail.com> <1163823147.2511421244135070020.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> Message-ID: <8304962d0906041032h4ba18d09xb19a04e5e42be472@mail.gmail.com> Hi William, Glad to know that things are finally working ^^, maybe when F11 gets out you could try it and see if it gives you some better support for compiz than F10. At least the kernel will be newer and then the hw support should be better too. When thinking to purchase a new laptop a good place to start is : http://tuxmobil.org/mylaptops.html Then select the brand you will trust your money to and look at the latest supported models. Once you have selected a laptop take some days to google around looking for incompatibilities with linux or for unhappy owners of that model. You can also post the details here, with some look you will find someone that knows something about it :) 2009/6/4 William Henry > Hi Miguel, > > Just thought I'd give you an update. I've been running Fedora 10 for > several weeks now with few problems. I think the biggest issue was the > video card in the lenovo and I will make sure that I look into video the > next time I purchase a laptop. When I disable compiz many of the issues go > away. It would be nice to have some of the compiz features but under the > current hardware it seems T61/Fedora 10 with compiz is not an option. (I > just see memory creep and CPU utilization crawl upwards to where it's not > usable and then crashes.) > > But I'm now using F10 on my T61 in a fairly stable way for several weeks. > > If anyone can give me a recommendation for a good laptop spec. for my next > purchase please let me know. Thanks. > > Best, > William > > > > ----- "Miguel Angel Perez" wrote: > > > > > > > 2009/3/1 William Henry > > >> >> > > >> > ----- "Miguel Angel Perez" wrote: >> > > Hi, >> > > >> > > >> > > > 2009/2/27 William Henry >> > > >>> >>> Hi, >>> > > >>> > > I've seen others have this problem and I've seen a BZ regarding it. >>> Its the "mouse still moves but can't do anything with the keyboard or mouse >>> input' problem. Requires a hardware reboot. >>> > > >>> > > I've given up on Fedora for a while until I see this fixed. I don't >>> have time for multiple reboots a day and the risk of losing data. >>> > > >>> > > I've also seen issues with NetworkManager. >> >> > >> > > Make sure there are bug reports filled. >> > > >> > >> > >> WH: I've seen this bug already reported. >> > >> > >>> >>> >>> > > >>> > > I'm sadly disappointed with F10. >> >> > >> > > I'm sorry you are dissapointed with Fedora and sad because your >> propietary stuff doesn't work on it. Fedora as a distro doesn't have nothing >> to do with such complains as they happen due a lack of proper driver >> implementation as some companies still refuses to support linux or because a >> software component is not working properly. In both cases Fedora doesn't >> directly develop the drivers or the components that doesn't work and you >> should get your complain to the upstream projects so they can fix it >> sometime or fill a bug report to Fedora so they can report upstream and >> apply patches as the come in. >> > >> > >> WH: Huh? proprietary stuff?? No idea what you are talking about unless you >> mean the hardware. >> > > > Yes i was talking about the hardware. Having proper support for all brand > new hw is quite difficult if the hw vendor doesn't support linux. > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > If you feel that other modern distros works better where Fedora fails >> you should check them but we all use the same linux kernel and same X.org so >> lack of hardware support is a common pain. >> > >> > >> WH: I'm running RHEL which is more stable. But I like to do other work on >> Fedora and was hoping Fedora 10 was more stable. I realize there are a lot >> of different hardware platforms out there and it is difficult to support. >> I'm a bit surpprised because there are so many Lenova T6x around I thought >> that it would have been tested more and there more stable. >> > >> > > > I don't know how many hardware platforms they have to test new releases > but i'm pretty sure that the real testing is done when a new release comes > out and we upgrade Fedora to the next version. A lot of things can happen > then. > > > >> > > >> > TBW this seemed to get worse the last few weeks so I wonder if some of >> my updates made the issue much more frequent. >> > >> > > > They must be fighting the bugs :), but still is too soon to have them > fixed. I've run in a lot of problems with NetworkManager with F9 and F10 > that only got solved after the hw driver got properly fixed (intel wifi > driver). > > > >> > > >> > Best, >> > William >> > >> > > >> > >>> >>> >>> > > >>> > > Regards, >>> > > William >>> > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > Fedora-laptop-list mailing list >>> > > Fedora-laptop-list at redhat.com >>> > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list >>> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > -- >> > > Regards, >> > > Miguel ?ngel P?rez >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ Fedora-laptop-list >> mailing list Fedora-laptop-list at redhat.com >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list >> > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Miguel ?ngel P?rez > > > -- Best Regards, Miguel ?ngel P?rez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chris.schumann at gmail.com Thu Jun 4 18:22:49 2009 From: chris.schumann at gmail.com (Chris Schumann) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:22:49 -0500 Subject: F10 on Lenovo T61 issue In-Reply-To: <1163823147.2511421244135070020.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> References: <8304962d0902281751if144b5dk200f55fd5d2a2bc6@mail.gmail.com> <1163823147.2511421244135070020.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> Message-ID: <6e0328990906041122y162de58fw126e323b52e49872@mail.gmail.com> The T61 had an nVidia (or Intel) video chip. The T60 (that I have) and the newer T400's and T500's AFAIK use ATI. I've been using F10 on my T60 for months with the open source radeon driver, and compiz works great. 3d? Not so much. I'm looking forward to see what happens with the Radeon driver and F11 in general. (I've been testing F11 on my 600X, but not the T60 which I use for work daily.) Chris On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:04 PM, William Henry wrote: > ... > If anyone can give me a recommendation for a good laptop spec. for my next > purchase please let me know. Thanks. > > Best, > William From rayfward at sky.com Fri Jun 5 22:42:11 2009 From: rayfward at sky.com (Ray Ward) Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 23:42:11 +0100 Subject: F10 on Lenovo T61 issue In-Reply-To: <8304962d0906041032h4ba18d09xb19a04e5e42be472@mail.gmail.com> References: <8304962d0902281751if144b5dk200f55fd5d2a2bc6@mail.gmail.com> <1163823147.2511421244135070020.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> <8304962d0906041032h4ba18d09xb19a04e5e42be472@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1244241731.4387.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> You seem to be little short on recommendations since you posted however individual recommendations are difficult to make. A sort of works list might be better. Generally Toshiba is a good start. I have tried Linux Toshiba's and they generally work out of the box. Fujitsu works as well and they host a user group that answers questions on Linux. I my self have a li2727 that works well the only problem I had was turning on the wifi adapter. The general rule is the closer you get to the bleeding edge the less likely it is to work with Linux. The upside the dusty today's special might easily out perform the bosses super duper Vista machine (know this to be true my boss has fat Fujitsu and it's goes like a gazelle on Diazepam) Good luck with your search Any further questions you know where to ask. Regards Ray On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 19:32 +0200, Miguel Angel Perez wrote: > Hi William, > > Glad to know that things are finally working ^^, maybe when F11 gets > out you could try it and see if it gives you some better support for > compiz than F10. At least the kernel will be newer and then the hw > support should be better too. > > When thinking to purchase a new laptop a good place to start is : > http://tuxmobil.org/mylaptops.html > > Then select the brand you will trust your money to and look at the > latest supported models. Once you have selected a laptop take some > days to google around looking for incompatibilities with linux or for > unhappy owners of that model. You can also post the details here, with > some look you will find someone that knows something about it :) > > > 2009/6/4 William Henry > > Hi Miguel, > > Just thought I'd give you an update. I've been running Fedora > 10 for several weeks now with few problems. I think the > biggest issue was the video card in the lenovo and I will make > sure that I look into video the next time I purchase a laptop. > When I disable compiz many of the issues go away. It would be > nice to have some of the compiz features but under the current > hardware it seems T61/Fedora 10 with compiz is not an option. > (I just see memory creep and CPU utilization crawl upwards to > where it's not usable and then crashes.) > > But I'm now using F10 on my T61 in a fairly stable way for > several weeks. > > If anyone can give me a recommendation for a good laptop spec. > for my next purchase please let me know. Thanks. > > Best, > William > > > > > > ----- "Miguel Angel Perez" wrote: > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/1 William Henry > > > > > > > > > > ----- "Miguel Angel Perez" > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/2/27 William Henry > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I've seen others have this problem and > I've seen a BZ regarding it. Its the "mouse > still moves but can't do anything with the > keyboard or mouse input' problem. Requires a > hardware reboot. > > > > > > I've given up on Fedora for a while until > I see this fixed. I don't have time for > multiple reboots a day and the risk of losing > data. > > > > > > I've also seen issues with > NetworkManager. > > > > > Make sure there are bug reports filled. > > > > > > > > > WH: I've seen this bug already reported. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sadly disappointed with F10. > > > > > I'm sorry you are dissapointed with Fedora and sad > because your propietary stuff doesn't work on it. > Fedora as a distro doesn't have nothing to do with > such complains as they happen due a lack of proper > driver implementation as some companies still refuses > to support linux or because a software component is > not working properly. In both cases Fedora doesn't > directly develop the drivers or the components that > doesn't work and you should get your complain to the > upstream projects so they can fix it sometime or fill > a bug report to Fedora so they can report upstream and > apply patches as the come in. > > > > > > WH: Huh? proprietary stuff?? No idea what you are > talking about unless you mean the hardware. > > > Yes i was talking about the hardware. Having proper support > for all brand new hw is quite difficult if the hw vendor > doesn't support linux. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you feel that other modern distros works better > where Fedora fails you should check them but we all > use the same linux kernel and same X.org so lack of > hardware support is a common pain. > > > > > > WH: I'm running RHEL which is more stable. But I like > to do other work on Fedora and was hoping Fedora 10 > was more stable. I realize there are a lot of > different hardware platforms out there and it is > difficult to support. I'm a bit surpprised because > there are so many Lenova T6x around I thought that it > would have been tested more and there more stable. > > > > > I don't know how many hardware platforms they have to test > new releases but i'm pretty sure that the real testing is done > when a new release comes out and we upgrade Fedora to the next > version. A lot of things can happen then. > > > > > > > > > > > TBW this seemed to get worse the last few weeks so I > wonder if some of my updates made the issue much more > frequent. > > > > > They must be fighting the bugs :), but still is too soon to > have them fixed. I've run in a lot of problems with > NetworkManager with F9 and F10 that only got solved after the > hw driver got properly fixed (intel wifi driver). > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > William > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > William > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Fedora-laptop-list mailing list > > > Fedora-laptop-list at redhat.com > > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > Miguel ?ngel P?rez > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-laptop-list mailing list > Fedora-laptop-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list > > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Miguel ?ngel P?rez > > > > > > > -- > Best Regards, > Miguel ?ngel P?rez > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-laptop-list mailing list > Fedora-laptop-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list Ray F Ward. ________________________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: images.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 4742 bytes Desc: not available URL: From whenry at redhat.com Fri Jun 5 22:49:19 2009 From: whenry at redhat.com (William Henry) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:49:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: F10 on Lenovo T61 issue Message-ID: <280101c9e651$644a2510$2cde6f30$@com> This is useful! Thank you. William _____ From: Ray Ward To: Miguel Angel Perez Cc: William Henry ; fedora-laptop-list at redhat.com Sent: Fri Jun 05 18:42:11 2009 Subject: Re: F10 on Lenovo T61 issue You seem to be little short on recommendations since you posted however individual recommendations are difficult to make. A sort of works list might be better. Generally Toshiba is a good start. I have tried Linux Toshiba's and they generally work out of the box. Fujitsu works as well and they host a user group that answers questions on Linux. I my self have a li2727 that works well the only problem I had was turning on the wifi adapter. The general rule is the closer you get to the bleeding edge the less likely it is to work with Linux. The upside the dusty today's special might easily out perform the bosses super duper Vista machine (know this to be true my boss has fat Fujitsu and it's goes like a gazelle on Diazepam) Good luck with your search Any further questions you know where to ask. Regards Ray On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 19:32 +0200, Miguel Angel Perez wrote: Hi William, Glad to know that things are finally working ^^, maybe when F11 gets out you could try it and see if it gives you some better support for compiz than F10. At least the kernel will be newer and then the hw support should be better too. When thinking to purchase a new laptop a good place to start is : http://tuxmobil.org/mylaptops.html Then select the brand you will trust your money to and look at the latest supported models. Once you have selected a laptop take some days to google around looking for incompatibilities with linux or for unhappy owners of that model. You can also post the details here, with some look you will find someone that knows something about it :) 2009/6/4 William Henry Hi Miguel, Just thought I'd give you an update. I've been running Fedora 10 for several weeks now with few problems. I think the biggest issue was the video card in the lenovo and I will make sure that I look into video the next time I purchase a laptop. When I disable compiz many of the issues go away. It would be nice to have some of the compiz features but under the current hardware it seems T61/Fedora 10 with compiz is not an option. (I just see memory creep and CPU utilization crawl upwards to where it's not usable and then crashes.) But I'm now using F10 on my T61 in a fairly stable way for several weeks. If anyone can give me a recommendation for a good laptop spec. for my next purchase please let me know. Thanks. Best, William ----- "Miguel Angel Perez" wrote: > > > > 2009/3/1 William Henry > > > > ----- "Miguel Angel Perez" wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > > > 2009/2/27 William Henry > > Hi, > > > > I've seen others have this problem and I've seen a BZ regarding it. Its > > the "mouse still moves but can't do anything with the keyboard or mouse > > input' problem. Requires a hardware reboot. > > > > I've given up on Fedora for a while until I see this fixed. I don't have > > time for multiple reboots a day and the risk of losing data. > > > > I've also seen issues with NetworkManager. > > > Make sure there are bug reports filled. > > > > WH: I've seen this bug already reported. > > > > > > I'm sadly disappointed with F10. > > > I'm sorry you are dissapointed with Fedora and sad because your > > propietary stuff doesn't work on it. Fedora as a distro doesn't have > > nothing to do with such complains as they happen due a lack of proper > > driver implementation as some companies still refuses to support linux > > or because a software component is not working properly. In both cases > > Fedora doesn't directly develop the drivers or the components that > > doesn't work and you should get your complain to the upstream projects > > so they can fix it sometime or fill a bug report to Fedora so they can > > report upstream and apply patches as the come in. > > WH: Huh? proprietary stuff?? No idea what you are talking about unless you mean the hardware. > Yes i was talking about the hardware. Having proper support for all brand > new hw is quite difficult if the hw vendor doesn't support linux. > > > > > > > > > If you feel that other modern distros works better where Fedora fails > > you should check them but we all use the same linux kernel and same > > X.org so lack of hardware support is a common pain. > > WH: I'm running RHEL which is more stable. But I like to do other work on Fedora and was hoping Fedora 10 was more stable. I realize there are a lot of different hardware platforms out there and it is difficult to support. I'm a bit surpprised because there are so many Lenova T6x around I thought that it would have been tested more and there more stable. > > I don't know how many hardware platforms they have to test new releases > but i'm pretty sure that the real testing is done when a new release comes > out and we upgrade Fedora to the next version. A lot of things can happen > then. > > > > TBW this seemed to get worse the last few weeks so I wonder if some of my > updates made the issue much more frequent. > > They must be fighting the bugs :), but still is too soon to have them > fixed. I've run in a lot of problems with NetworkManager with F9 and F10 > that only got solved after the hw driver got properly fixed (intel wifi > driver). > > > > Best, > William > > > > > > > > Regards, > > William > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-laptop-list mailing list > > Fedora-laptop-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Miguel ?ngel P?rez > > > > _______________________________________________ Fedora-laptop-list > > mailing list Fedora-laptop-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list > > -- > Regards, > Miguel ?ngel P?rez > -- Best Regards, Miguel ?ngel P?rez _______________________________________________ Fedora-laptop-list mailing list Fedora-laptop-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list Ray F Ward. _____ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tbrinkman at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 5 23:59:03 2009 From: tbrinkman at sbcglobal.net (Tom) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:59:03 -0500 Subject: F10 on Lenovo T61 issue In-Reply-To: <280101c9e651$644a2510$2cde6f30$@com> References: <280101c9e651$644a2510$2cde6f30$@com> Message-ID: <200906051859.03937.tbrinkman@sbcglobal.net> On Friday 05 June 2009 17:49:19 William Henry wrote: > This is useful! Thank you. > > William The reason you got replies all over the place, is T61's are all over the place. Best ones are all Intel, attached (lspci) t61.txt. This lap has been usin Fedora since FC7 (now F11), along with PA, and 3d/acell, external snd an mouse. Lessor models of the t61 used nVidia and ATI. What is 'useful', is to have some knowledge of the sys before you buy it, not the 'brand' names, readymades. Of which, Lenovo's are generally the best. F10+updates testing for over six m6. In any event most sys are EOL after three yrs. This T61 has about 6/m left. The CD/DVD burner is goin south, so is the '1' key. But I knew both would. I was advised to use an external kybd an burner.... before I went laptop. Anyhow, duo 2,4Ghz, 160gb HDD, 15.4" WS, for the rest see lspci.... top of the line T61 .... yrs ago -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas -------------- next part -------------- 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 0c) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c) 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82566MM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 03) 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03) 00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03) 00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03) 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03) 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 03) 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 03) 00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 5 (rev 03) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03) 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03) 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev f3) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801HBM (ICH8M-E) LPC Interface Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) SATA IDE Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03) 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61) 15:00.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev ba) 15:00.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 04) 15:00.2 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 21) 15:00.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 MMC Host Controller (rev ff) 15:00.4 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 11) 15:00.5 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev 11) From suvendu_giri2004 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 7 13:57:53 2009 From: suvendu_giri2004 at yahoo.com (suvendu giri) Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 06:57:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fedora-laptop-list Digest, Vol 38, Issue 5 Message-ID: <114818.46643.qm@web52312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I f10 on a lenovo y510 and everything runs right out of the box. as far as the video card you are complaining about, what make is it? if its nvidia, just get the .run file from the nvidia site. and i especially diasgree to this: "The general rule is the closer you get to the bleeding? edge the less likely it is to work with Linux." i have hardly faced problems with the "cutting edge" machines i'v been trying f10 on... --- On Sat, 6/6/09, fedora-laptop-list-request at redhat.com wrote: From: fedora-laptop-list-request at redhat.com Subject: Fedora-laptop-list Digest, Vol 38, Issue 5 To: fedora-laptop-list at redhat.com Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 9:30 PM Send Fedora-laptop-list mailing list submissions to ??? fedora-laptop-list at redhat.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? fedora-laptop-list-request at redhat.com You can reach the person managing the list at ??? fedora-laptop-list-owner at redhat.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Fedora-laptop-list digest..." Today's Topics: ???1. Re: F10 on Lenovo T61 issue (William Henry) ???2. Re: F10 on Lenovo T61 issue (Tom) _______________________________________________ Fedora-laptop-list mailing list Fedora-laptop-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Tait.Clarridge at lavalife.com Mon Jun 8 16:22:35 2009 From: Tait.Clarridge at lavalife.com (Tait Clarridge) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 12:22:35 -0400 Subject: Tecra A10 - failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x4) Message-ID: Hey All, I have been working with a Toshiba Tecra A10 in Fedora 10 and soon to go to Fedora 11. The issue I have been dealing with concerns my DVD drive on boot. When I start Fedora I get the following message 3 times when there is no CD/DVD in the drive: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x4) After which the DVD drive is not recognized when I get into Fedora. 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