issues with mozilla

[Troy Dawson]

Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 07:07:23AM -0800, Paul Heinlein wrote:
> 
>>On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Despite of a general policy of not changing versions this seems
>>>to me a correct thing to do here.  Comments?
>>
>>Red Hat issued a fairly major mozilla version bump (1.2 -> 1.4) last
>>week, so my hunch is that backporting the latest patches was deemed
>>unworkable.
> 
> 
> This mozilla-1.4 and a matching galeon is what I am running right
> now on RH7.3 installations and spec patches I posted were for these
> new Red Hat releases.  So far all "uninformed guinea pigs" :-) even
> failed to notice that anything has changed.
> 
> I fully expect that changes for RH8 are of the same order of
> magnitude and for 7.2 most likely too.
> 
> 
>>So I guess my comment is that there's probably not much choice...
> 
> 
> The other choices as I see them are:
>   - do nothing and hope for the best (it may work in majority of
>     cases)
>   - somebody with a good knowledge of mozilla sources, and a quite a
>     bit of time to burn, digs through 1.4 sources and based on that
>     fixes earlier stuff; sounds to me like a massive waste of effort.
> 
> Maybe somebody has some other options?  There also can be some
> "gotchas" which I am missing.  Hence my request for comments.
> 
>    Michal
> 
Hi,
Here is some rain for the parade.
Because of internal pressure, mozilla is one of the things that I've always 
tried to keep current in our 7.3 based release.  We currently have everything 
to mozilla 1.5, and will probrubly bump up again when mozilla 1.7 comes out. 
Anyway, because of that I've already ran into the problems.
So far, there are only three that I know of.
1st - galeon (of course)
2nd - nautilus-mozilla
3rd - evolution

The galeon problem is very obvious and straight forward, no real need to discuss.

The evolution problem will happen with a new user, after you've upgraded 
mozilla.  I'm not positive it will happen, but it need to be checked.
To check it,
   upgrade your mozilla.
   Add a new user.
   Log in as that new user and start up evolution.
  If - you are able to so through the whole evolution startup without problems 
and elolution works correctly.
  Then - the problem isn't there
  Else - If at some point it complains about mozilla and won't work
    You need to recompile evolution.  It should get the right mozilla libraries
  Fi

The nautilus-mozilla problem didn't get reported for a whole year, so it's 
really alot more subtle.  Basically, the nautilus-mozilla rpm doesn't work. 
But as far as I can tell, the only time this really causes a problem is when 
GNOME users try to use their graphical help.  It will fail.
To check it,
   upgrade your mozilla.
   Add a new user.
   Log in as that new user and start a terminal window or nautilus.
   From the 'Help' menu, select 'Contents'
  If - The help starts up correctly
  Then - the problem isn't there
  ElseIf - You get some type of message saying that it couldn't open correctly
    The bug is there.
  Fi
I don't know if my solution is the best for everyone.  I basically made a 
mozilla12 rpm, that had mozilla 1.2's libraries in it.  Everything works fine 
with this.  But, as I said, that might not be the best for everyone.


As I said earlier, this would be rather hard for me to check from a regular 
release, because I'v had mozilla replaced for a long time.  But for people 
with a more plain redhat release, these checks really should be made so we can 
tell if they are problems that need to be addressed or not.
Troy

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