changes are needed, we need keep moving

[Eric Rostetter]

Quoting Jim Popovitch <jimpop at yahoo.com>:

> A LOT of that is because there are a LOT of packages waiting for testing
> that people just plainly don't have interest in.  Looking at

The older the OS release, the more problem that will be, indeed.

> http://www.netcore.fi/pekkas/buglist-rhl73.html, I see 95% of cruft that
> makes it difficult to focus on the 4 or 5% that I care about.  Do we
> really need to be releasing a mozilla for rh73?

Yes.  People do use mozilla on rh7, and it needs to be secure.  Unfortunately
there are not as many people using mozilla on rh7 as on say FC2, so it
is harder to get them verified.

In fact, I just upgraded some of my RH 7.3 machines to Centos, so I'll
have even fewer machines to test things on.  I'm sure others are doing
the same.

> The process isn't broke, the process just sadly isn't easy to be
> involved with.

We need to find ways to make it easier.  The buglist postings are one
way, but we need more.
 
> Here's my predicament: I can test RH73 packages used in a "locked-down"
> server environment.  So, what do I need to test?

Good question.  I don't have an answer right now.  I still have several
7.3 machines, server and desktop, but I'm slowly upgrading them to
Centos 3/4, so I don't know how long I'll be able to help.

But I'm a busy man, and a lazy man, and I often don't help unless I'm asked
to and it is made easy.  Like you, I'd love people to say "we need someone
with RH 7.3 to test package X" and I'd probably do it if I could.  But to
go out and find out what needs testing which is almost ready for release 
but just needs one or two more verifies, that is something I'm not as
likely to do.

Hate to say it, but I'm lazy, and so are others.  We need some non-lazy
go-getters to make us do the work. 

> -Jim P.

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Eric Rostetter