no mandatory QA testing at all [Re: crazy thought about how to ease QA testing]

[Eric Rostetter]

Quoting Mike McCarty <mike.mccarty at sbcglobal.net>:

> I sent out an e-mail some weeks ago suggesting that if
> there were an easy way for me to test without endangering the stability
> of my system, then I'd be willing to do some QA testing. The silence
> in response to that message was completely deafening.

That simply isn't true.  If you were concerned about progress, you should
have asked for an update.

Jesse said he was taking the idea of a vmplayer image up the chain for
approval.  It was discussed a fair amount here.  Several people asked
about just creating good docs for using VM systems for QA.  I started
trying to code some stuff up to better automate the QA process to make
it easier for people to get involved, and I still plan to work on them
once this thread dies down.

> It got not
> even one reply. I saw recently some things about using VmWare perhaps
> allowing one to do testing in a protected environment, but no one
> really seems interested in following up on that.

That simply isn't true.  This is being followed up, and it was due in
part to your postings.

> So, while there is no backout procedure for the testing packages,
> I am unwilling to do any testing.

That is BS.  You haven't even tried.

> And, before I get more unwelcome messages about "You get out what you
> put in."

You get what the community puts in, where "community" means all those
involved in any way in FL.  You are part of the community, but you are
free to leave the community if you want.

> If someone offers something up free, without expectation of recompense,
> and I accept it, giving back no recompense, then I do not feel
> that I have done anything criminal, unethical, immoral, lazy,
> ungrateful, or even unfriendly. So those of you who are tempted
> to respond along these lines, save your collective breath.

You have not done anything criminal, unethical, immoral, ungrateful, or
unfriendly in using the packages FL produces.  Lazy, well, matter of opinion.
Ungrateful, only if you complain about the project while unwilling to
help to improve it.

The idea behind a community project is you can't complain loudly (but you
can ask questions, and make suggestions) unless you are willing to help
out.  We're giving the stuff away for free, and in return we ask that
those not helping don't complain.  However, we should always accept
helpful suggestions, comments, tips, hints, support, even constructive
critisism.  Just not complaints by people unwilling to help out.

The other idea is you have to wait until we get around to what you want.
You can't post a suggestion and expect we will all spend 12 hours a day
working on it.  It might take months to get it done.  You have to be
patient, or willing to help.  You can't refuse to participate and refuse
to wait for the results.

> But I'm not complaining about Fcx, or Legacy for FC2 in particular.

Okay.

> Mike

-- 
Eric Rostetter
The Department of Physics
The University of Texas at Austin

Go Longhorns!