lwn article on the death of Fedora Legacy
Jesse Keating
jkeating at redhat.com
Fri Oct 20 18:08:38 UTC 2006
On Friday 20 October 2006 13:58, Eric Rostetter wrote:
> First, my interest doesn't really fit there. It is in testing what is
> in updates-testing (which is nothing). If there was something in
> updates-testing to test, I would test it and report the results.
Its tough to get to updates-testing without the pre-work done. So thats where
we need the help right now.
> Secondly, I've offered to help many times with other infrastructure issues,
> and been turned down over and over.
Where? When? You refused to use IRC, you've refused to even try to get a
wiki account.
> Third, when I've tried to help test packages before updates-testing, I
> met with lots of trouble. Someone: "No, you have to do this, this way, not
> that way!" Me: "Okay, where's that documented?" Someone: "No where."
> Me: "Okay, I'll document that and resubmit" Someone: "No, you still missed
> Step X". Me: Okay, where is that documented? Someone: "No where."
> Me: "Okay,
> I'll document that..." And so on. Eventually of course, my documentation
> is no longer good because it is a web page and now it should all be wiki,
> and I don't have access to the wiki. By the time I finally get access to
> the wiki, I've lost interest.
When did you try to get a wiki account? We always welcome more documentation.
> Third, I had a big project that took about a year of my life, during which
> I could not spend a lot of time of FL work. That is over now, and I could
> go back to working on FL again, but I really don't see where I'm needed
> now.
I've outlined what help we need.
> The fact that I only have one FC machine to play with (FC 3 x86_64 now,
> could upgrade to FC4 or what ever if needed) doesn't help. I'm willing
> to put it towards FL work if you tell me what you need me to do.
>
> But you can't expect me to do everything any more than I expect you to do
> everything. And as long as you keep refusing my offers to help saying
> you'll do it yourself, you won't get many unsolicited offers from me,
> so you better start soliciting if you want anything.
>
> >> So, hey, here's an idea: Let's do that! What's the hold up?
> >
> > Getting software in place. Time. Energy.
>
> Is there anything I can do to help, or not?
Again, I don't know, you'd have to ask Luke and / or the Infrastructure team.
>
> >> Again, could he use help with this? If so, what kind of help?
> >> Even gentle encouragement? Or money? Or coding support? Or
> >> documentation support? Or???
> >
> > I don't know. Email him. Find out. He's on the fedora infrastructure
> > team which has this listed as one of the projects.
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure
> >
> > Don't wait on me to make it happen.
>
> Is there a particular reason to contact only him instead of the whole
> infrastructure team?
Mostly because he "owns" the project.
--
Jesse Keating
Release Engineer: Fedora
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