trouble with up2date

[Jason Montleon]

 Dave Roberts <ldave droberts com> wrote:
>There is so much confusion with getting up2date actually working.

<rant>
Yep, this is my gripe too.  I've been using RHN/up2date more or less since
it existed, and everything used to work very well.  You ran RHN configure,
answered some questions, subscribed to your relevant channels (with a GUI if
you wanted too)  Up came the final beta for Fedora and everything to do with
up2date "just changed."

>From the perspective that one of the objectives of Fedora project is to,
"Emphasize usability and a "just works" philosophy in selecting default
configuration and designing features." (source:
http://fedora.redhat.com/about/objectives.html), I think they have failed
miserably with up2date/RHN.  Since RHN is not even usable with Fedora
anymore the functionality should be ripped out and save newbies that much
confusion, and an interface designed to work with yum/apt-get repositories
designed for it.

I complained (admittedly not in the nicest way), during the beta that Fedora
was making this way too difficult, but the XFree86 Maintainer at RedHat
basically told me shut my pie hole, betas may have components that are
broken or buggy...  yuh, thanks, as if I didn't know.  Nice to see the final
is much more user friendly for Joe the newbie Linux enthusiast.  Having
people go in and edit a text file (/etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources) and configure
yum or apt-get repositories as they see fit, without any guidance whatsoever
from anywhere.... not to mention which as of 10AM Monday morning the
repositories listed by default have fallen off the face of earth, without no
one whatsoever saying at least, "Yes we moved the repository" or "The Server
hosting the repositories decided it was not long for tihs world and blew its
brains out, we're working on it, and sorry for the inconvenience."

The way it stands; it's fine for a lot of us.  We have the experience and
knowledge to look up mirrors and change this information without much
effort, and the fact that yum/apt-get repositories besides the defaults can
be used is great; it makes up2date all that much more powerful a tool, and I
realize that.  But Fernando Fernandez's experience as a newbie to Linux is
not one that should have occured.
</rant>

Jason