OpenGroupware? -- Groupwise = CAL-"wise," so how is this comparable???

W. Chris Shank chris.shank at acetechgroup.com
Thu Oct 16 03:03:16 UTC 2003


HP Openmail is now owned by Samsung and is their groupware solution
called Samsung Contact.


On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 23:13, Bryan J. Smith wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 15:02, Chris Ricker wrote:
> > I've heard you can actually use the Ximian Connector to interface the 
> > two, though I've not tried. Ximian did open up the groupwise connector as 
> > a starting point for the OGo connector though....
> 
> "Open up" is relative.
> 
> E.g., is Groupwise iCalendar compliant?  Or any other standard?
> 
> No.  So how does that "help" OGo?
> 
> Novell owns Ximian.  Given the fact that there was _no_ major Groupwise
> client for Linux/UNIX, this wasn't anything "special."  It's a marketing
> move by Novell, because it sells more Groupwise licenses.
> 
> Because Groupwise is sold <pun>CAL-wise</pun>.
> 
> Frankly, I'm a little shocked at the belittlement of a company that
> basically gave away its entire, 100% Standards-based (XML-RPC, WebDAV,
> iCalendar) back-end.   No strings attached ala GPL/LGPL.
> 
> I mean, people are recommending Freedomware/Standardsware solutions that
> are either far less capable (e.g., various, simple FTP/HTTP "free/busy"
> solutions), or Commerceware (e.g., Groupwise).
> 
> A server cannot solve the problem of a client that is
> non-standards-based.  At least not without a massive reverse engineering
> effort (e.g., Samba), or licensing.
> 
> In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the reason, in the case of Outlook,
> _is_ licensing.  That's what kept HP OpenMail from going GPL as well.
-- 
W. Chris Shank
ACE Technology Group, LLC
chris.shank at acetechgroup.com
http://www.acetechgroup.com





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