GUMBY GRUB

[Joe(theWordy)Philbrook]

It would appear that on Apr 6, Dave Cross did say:

> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 07:28:03 +0100
> From: Dave Cross <dave at dave.org.uk>
> Reply-To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: GUMBY GRUB
> 
> On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 09:54:48AM +1000, Res wrote:
> > On Mon, 5 Apr 2004, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
> > 
> > > Instead, you could go to the archive and display the list in
> > > threaded mode. Then you'll see your mistake.
> > 
> > CBF, not my problem if mailman spits the dummy, also wouldnt be the
> > first time its screwed up posts,
> 
> Well, it's not just Mailman. I read my email in mutt using a threaded
> view and that also shows your email as a reply.
> 
> If, as you insist, you started the original email as a brand new mail,
> then you need to explain why it has the "References:" and "In-Reply-To"
> headers. No decent email program would add those to a new email.
> 
> Dave...

Pardon my intrusion Dave, But I note that Res said he did this with "pine"
in one of his posts... 

>> how can opening pine, selecting the list address to compose to from the
>> addressbook and making a post be a mistake *giggles*

As a dedicated pine user I have to add that pine wouldn't insert them in
an new email either... What it will do though is to NOT show you those
headers unless you turn header mode on. And it can be configured not to
include the text and/or header in replies... Which could lead some to
think it's not going to include existing header data in the "header" of
the reply... [wrong] 

But what I can't understand is, given that the lists software didn't
spontaneously insert the offending header lines into his email, why is
he so sure that he didn't start with a reply? I think it would be an easy
mistake to make. (initially anyway) 

If I never looked at headers and didn't know that threading wasn't
really based on the subject, I might think that if I erased all the data
in all the visible header fields I'd have a really blank form. But I'd
be wrong... I'd have to start the NEW message with the [C]ompose
command to get that. 

Sorry to keep this going but I simply "HAD" to make sure that any newbies
reading this list didn't conclude that pine had actually "added" those
headers "to a new email", any more than any other "decent email program"
would.

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