Start again on the newbie's networking problem. Re: Need help (of course) setting up network
Shelagh Manton
oneida at tpg.com.au
Wed Apr 28 12:08:21 UTC 2004
So, I see that it is important to have a good firewall on the net. I must
tell some of my more innocent friends.
PS. I am planning on doing those things you suggested, but it may take me a
while. So if you don't hear from me for don't think I've disappeared, just
very slow and time limited.
Shelagh
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:25:03 -0400, jludwig <wralphie at comcast.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 10:57, Steve Searle wrote:
>> Around 03:49pm on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 (UK time), Jay Daniels
>> scrawled:
>>
>> > > On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 08:05:09AM -0400, jludwig wrote:
>> > > On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 07:40, Steve Searle wrote:
>> > > > Around 05:14am on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 (UK time), Rodolfo J.
>> Paiz scrawled:
>> > > > > > > > and origin. This is, for example, how "Denial of Service"
>> (DoS) attacks are > > > > performed... hack 1,000 innocent bystanders,
>> then use their machines to > > > > attack your target while *never*
>> showing your face directly. And, of > > > > course, the innocent
>> bystanders get blacklisted, banned, and sometimes > > > > prosecuted. As
>> if that weren't enough, some hackers use networks to spread > > > > > >
>> Have you a cite for the prosecution of someone who was hacked into?
>> > > > While I agree with you that protection is very important
>> regardless of
>> > > > the value of any data on the PC, and that unprotected PCs have
>> often
>> > > > been used for DoS attacks, I would have thought that claiming
>> people
>> > > > have been prosecuted is scaremongering. As ever, I could well be
>> wrong
>> > > > 'though.
>> > > > > > > Cheers
>> > > > > > > Steve
>> > > In any case it's not worth some law enforcement officials showing up
>> at
>> > > your door and "borrowing" your hard drive(s) for several months.
>> > > I think they take everything you own and it's up to you to prove
>> your
>> > innocence. Even if you are innocent, how do you get compensated for
>> > such actions. This could go on for months or years and you may never
>> > get your property or your life back.
>>
>> I suspect in this heavy handed law enforcement scenario, having a
>> properly configure firewall is not going to be much use. I still would
>> like to see some evidence of people being prosecuted because they have
>> allowed their computer to be hacked.
>>
>> Steve
> There are sites that deal with computer forensics. The issue here is
> that your computer or hard drive becomes "evidence". They upon
> inspection of your system would/could quickly determine that your system
> was a "zombie". But a knife, car, etc., used in a crime becomes evidence
> and might never be returned.
> -- jludwig <wralphie at comcast.net>
>
>
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