fedora-list Digest, Vol 2, Issue 323

Thu Apr 29 10:29:44 UTC 2004

On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 01:02, fedora-list-request at redhat.com wrote:
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> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:02:04 +0800
> From: Dexter Ang <thepoch at mydestiny.net>
> Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Calc 4-11 date bug?
> To: tsiddharth at kodiaknetworks.com,	For users of Fedora Core releases
> 	<fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1083146523.11604.25.camel at portablepoch>
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> On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 17:15, Siddharth Toshniwal wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 14:17, Dexter Ang wrote:
> > > Just want to know if others are experiencing this...
> > 
> > Funny. The steps you mentioned seem to work okay
> > for me. My open office version is: 1.1.0
> > 
> > What is your OO.o version? Is there _no_
> > date format which shows correctly?
> > 
> > cheers,
> > Siddharth.
> 
> I am currently using version 1.1.0 as well, the latest build. This has
> also happened in the build that originally shipped with Fedora.
> 
> I just tested again... open up Calc, enter the values "4/9", "4/10",
> "4/11", "4/12", "4/13". All the others except 4/11 will be changed to a
> date format.
> 
> I have also confirmed that this happens in the Windows version of OOo
> 1.1.0 on my friend's computer. But I still want input to see if it
> happens only to us, or majority of people.
> 
> dex

> I am running version 1.1.0 and all dates including "4/11" are converted
to dates correctly

Roger
>  
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> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 00:23:17 -0500
> From: ByteEnable <ByteEnable at austin.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: Please help me be rid of Windows forever!
> To: Benjamin at Weiss.name,	For users of Fedora Core releases
> 	<fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <200404290023.17771.ByteEnable at austin.rr.com>
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> 
> > 3) I use Neo DVD Standard to grab my home movies off of my MiniDV
> > camcorder, then use DVD Lab to make the DVDs.  Can I get my movies off of
> > my camcorder, and is there video software that's as easy to use as DVD
> > Lab?
> 
> There is a KDE app called KDenlive that you can do movies with.
> 
> http://www.uchian.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/kdenlive_screenshots.html
> 
> Byte
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 00:26:05 -0400
> From: Jay Daniels <drs at pointyhats.com>
> Subject: Re: Please help me be rid of Windows forever!
> To: Benjamin at Weiss.name,	For users of Fedora Core releases
> 	<fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <20040429042605.GD10005 at darkforce.darktech.org>
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> On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 07:35:50PM -0500, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote:
> .-cut-.
> > 
> > Up to now I've run RH on my home server (upgrading when FC2 comes out) and 
> > Win2K as the main OS on the desktop, though I've multi-booted with RH.  
> > Now the mother board is dying, and I've ordered new hardware (list below).  
> > Supposedly Win2K doesn't work with SATA drives, and I'm unwilling to pay 
> > to upgrade to WinXP, so now is the perfect time to move to FC (well, 
> > perhaps it'd be better to wait until FC2...god, how I'm going to hate 
> > having to upgrade my OS every six freaking months *sigh*)
> > 
> .-cut-.
> 
> Interesting, will updates, patches, or fixes for FC1 end when FC2 is
> released?
> 
> 
> jay
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:04:39 +1000
> From: Matt Hansen <helios82 at optushome.com.au>
> Subject: Re: kill xterm kills app!
> To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1083215078.3471.96.camel at fc1>
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> On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 14:11, Chris wrote:
> > Hi Jay,
> > 
> > On Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004, at 23:57 US/Eastern, Jay Daniels wrote:
> > 
> > >> If you start it with the ampersand and later want to close the xterm 
> > >> but
> > >> keep the other app (xclock) going, you can use 'disown' to do the same
> > >> thing that 'nohup' does when starting it as mentioned in earlier 
> > >> posts.
> > >> For example:
> > >>
> > >> $ xclock &
> > >> $ disown xclock
> > >>
> > >> Paul
> > >
> > >
> > > Why does xclock become a child of the xterm process if you use the
> > > ampersand and run it in the background?
> > >
> > 
> > xclock actually becomes a child process of the shell (bash, usually). 
> > When you start it with nohup, it becomes a child of the init process 
> > (usually PID 1) after the 'real' parent (the shell) dies.
> 
> Is there any functional difference between say 'nohup xclock &' and 
> 'xclock & ; disown xclock' apart from the latter involves more typing?
> 
> Regards,
> -Matt
> -- 
> "Would you buy a car with the hood welded shut?"
>  - Bob Young on the benefits of the open source development model.
> mhelios - www.fedoraforum.org
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> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 01:11:25 -0400
> From: "Michael Mayhew" <plainmedici at hotmail.com>
> Subject: SoundBlaster Live! sound card issue...
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
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> Greetings,
> 
>    I have a major problem in my attempts to configure sound for my Fedora 
> Core 1 linux machine. I have disabled the PnP OS setting in the BIOS as well 
> as the onboard sound. The Fedora Soundcard Detection utility recognizes the 
> card (as it did during installation) and the correct driver (emu10k1). 
> However, when I try to "Play test sound" the system freezes. (No mouse 
> movement, etc.) I am including, for posterity, the listing of my 
> modules.conf file (the relevant sections anyway). Any and all assistance 
> would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot.
> 
> alias sound-slot-0 emu10k1
> post-install sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 
> 2>&1 || :
> pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null 
> 2>&1 || :
> 
> Once again, thanks.
> 
> Michael
> 
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> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:29:37 +0800
> From: Chris Kloiber <ckloiber at ckloiber.com>
> Subject: Re: First experiences with Fedora Core 2 Test 3
> To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list at redhat.com>
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> On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 11:40, Chris wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I have downloaded and installed FC2/T3 on my Acer TravelMate today.
> > The initial install went fine - no problems there.
> > After rebooting, the machine hung at kudzu (detecting new hardware).
> > I disabled that and rebooted, this time it hung at activating eth0 - I 
> > had given it a fixed IP address, no reason to hang.
> > Then I disabled networks from staring up, it hung at pcmcia
> > Disabled that, it hung at cups
> > Disabled that and it eventually booted.
> > But it had no X configuration, so it asked - told it what it is and it 
> > let me log in to GNOME. But it hung, after the FC2 banner shows up in 
> > the middle of the screen.
> > Switched to initlevel 3 and back to 5, logged into KDE. That worked ok 
> > but with no network, I feel kinda crippled.
> > There is also a dump when it tries to initialize the USB controller, 
> > 'Unable to handle kernel paging request' is the message.
> > 
> > If anybody out there needs more info to fix these issues, I'd be more 
> > than happy to provide what I can.
> > 
> > And no, these are not newbe problems, I'm running Linux since Kernel 
> > version 0.9x ;-).
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Chris
> > 
> > --
> > Chris Ruprecht
> > Network Grunt and Bit Pusher extraordinare
> 
> That all sounds very ACPI or IOAPIC to me, try disabling them at boot
> with pci=noacpi{,usepirqmask} acpi=off or noapic. Any combination may
> help. My laptop, for instance, requires pci=noacpi to make the via-rhine
> network work, and usepirqmask along with a kernel patch to make pcmcia
> work. Once you get the machine booting reliably, then go after X. Good
> luck.
> 
> -- 
> Chris Kloiber
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 17
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 01:49:25 -0400
> From: russell <simmonsr at verizon.net>
> Subject: BitTorrent help
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <40909765.7070805 at verizon.net>
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> 
> I installed the BitTorrent client via Yum using the FreshRpms 
> repository.  I can't seem to get the program to run.  I'm probably 
> overlooking something obvious but can't seem to figure it out.  Any help 
> would be most appreciated.
> 
> tia
> 
> r.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 18
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:21:32 +0930
> From: Iain Buchanan <iain at pcorp.com.au>
> Subject: Re: SoundBlaster Live! sound card issue...
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <1083217892.2137.11.camel at orpheus2.pcorp.com.au>
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> 
> On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 14:41, Michael Mayhew wrote:
> >    I have a major problem in my attempts to configure sound for my Fedora 
> > Core 1 linux machine
> [snip]
> >  The Fedora Soundcard Detection utility recognizes the 
> > card (as it did during installation) and the correct driver (emu10k1). 
> > However, when I try to "Play test sound" the system freezes.
> [snip]
> > alias sound-slot-0 emu10k1
> 
> has it ever worked in linux?
> what does lspci say for the sound card?
> Objection! leading the witness:
> is it an emu10k1 or an emu10k1x
> 
> If you got it in a Dell system then its a SoundBlaster Live! by creative
> but never released to the public, which is the 'winmodem' equivalent of
> sound cards (emu10k1x).
> 
> If you bought it in a box from some distributor, then its probably ok
> (emu10k1), and maybe someone else can help you further :)
> 
> HTH,
> -- 
> Iain Buchanan <iain at pcorp.com.au>
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 19
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 07:56:32 +0200
> From: Chadley Wilson <chadley at pinteq.co.za>
> Subject: RE: StartX not running
> To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1083218191.15982.23.camel at localhost.localdomain>
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> On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 19:57, jludwig wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 11:50, Keita Rose wrote:
> > > I have given your suggestion a try with no success.  Find attached the results of the effort
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: fedora-list-bounces at redhat.com
> > > [mailto:fedora-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of jludwig
> > > Sent: 27 April 2004 21:02
> > > To: For users of Fedora Core releases
> > > Subject: RE: StartX not running
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 15:30, Keita Rose wrote:
> > > > I have tried that, it did not work.  See attached file for results.
> > > > 
> > > snip snip snip
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > You could try XFree86 -configure as root. This might well give you the
> > > information you need.
> > > 
> I have just picked up the thread and haven't read any of the others, I
> normally use redhat-config-XFree86 --set-driver=vesa as root.
> and then just redhat-config-XFree86 to set the resolution. 
> good luck!
-- 
Roger Finks <rcflinux at earthlink.net>