Yum has screwed up my system :-(
Robin Laing
Robin.Laing at drdc-rddc.gc.ca
Tue Aug 10 14:51:25 UTC 2004
Axel Thimm wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 09:22:46AM -0600, Robin Laing wrote:
>
>>I was running into problems with yum and up2date on two computers and
>>have traced all problems to atrpms repository. For some reasons their
>> files don't want to work with other repositories as nice as others.
>> I ran into this problem with many little programs on the weekend
>>that I had to remove close to 100 atrpm packages and re-install from
>>other repositories to clean my system. Many won't even work nicely
>>with the normal fedora updates. I still have alot of sorting out to do.
>>
>>My biggest problem has been with their PHP* packages and I have
>>submitted a bug report which has been closed but still won't work as
>>expected.
>
>
> You mean
>
> http://bugzilla.atrpms.net/show_bug.cgi?id=143
>
> What does not work as expected? If you don't report it it won't get
> fixed.
>
> Note: the php packages are almost genouine Fedora, in fact they are
> build from effectively the same src.rpm, only against newer libxslt.
I cannot connect to the bugzilla site at this time but my files
indicate that this is the php problem that I submitted. The latest
PHP updates from fedora-updates won't install due to the
libxsltbreakpoint dependency which is the bug that I issued.
The problem with atrpms goes deeper. I came back from three weeks
holidays and tried to do all the updates and install a few packages.
Newer packages, including those from fedora-updates were being
stopped due to dependency problems for many packages, I don't have the
list anymore. Needless to say that it took many hours to update what
should have taken minutes with yum. I had to remove packages which
all but one turned out to be from atrpms. Multimedia/dvd applications
are some of the problems. Same problems on two different computers.
I could have used the same notes. It took over an hour yesterday to
update just one set of libs as I had to remove other applications that
were dependent on other libs that were used by other applications.
Nice circle.
There has been discussions about different repositories and how they
work together. I have had faith that repositories should work well
together and this I believe is the feeling from all users and
developers. If I have an application from dag and there is an update
from fedora-updates, I should not have to worry about different
dependencies and for that matter, it should be dealt with by yum or apt.
As I stated, this is my experience and as I seem only to have to
remove atrpms packages to do updates or install programs, it is a
problem. When I get a message about a newer lib or application that I
go to install or update and it requires me to remove and re-install
four, five or more packages from one repository then it is a problem
that I don't want to deal with. This is for one application.
As stated in the subject, yum caused a problem and it has in my case.
My problems all seem to point to one location with yum and up2date
as I had put atrpms in the conf files for both.
When I get time and I can connect to bugzilla I will submit a bug on
the whole mess. Simply, it points to how packages work with other
repositories. I will have to figure out how to word the issue as it
isn't just one package application but a system.
As a suggestion to different repository operators is to run a few
machines that do updates from different repositories to check for
these various problems and to ensure ease of use for all users. The
nodeps option should not be needed.
--
Robin Laing
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