fedora-list Digest, Vol 6, Issue 19

Shane Steinhobel shane at famousbrands.co.za
Tue Aug 3 15:30:55 UTC 2004


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Kernel build question (Robert P. J. Day)
   2. Re: mp3 splitter for linux (Michael Schwendt)
   3. Re: Is there anyway I could boot linux faster (Brian Fahrlander)
   4. building a 2.6 kernel (Robert P. J. Day)
   5. Re: Is there anyway I could boot linux faster (Paul)
   6. Re: Kernel build question (Douglas Furlong)
   7. Re: Bigger cursor FC2 (ne...)
   8. Re: Is there anyway I could boot linux faster (Douglas Furlong)
   9. Re: Is there anyway I could boot linux faster (John Hearns)
  10. Re: Is there anyway I could boot linux faster (Paul)
  11. Re: Is there anyway I could boot linux faster (Mikael Abrahamsson)
  12. Re: Is there anyway I could boot linux faster (James Wilkinson)
  13. Re: Kernel build question (Edwin Dicker)
  14. Re: Is there anyway I could boot linux faster (James Wilkinson)
  15. Re: mp3 splitter for linux (Clint Harshaw)
  16. ogle problem on fc2 (William W. Austin)
  17. Re: Email question (James Wilkinson)
  18. Re: Need help with fstab config (jeem machine)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 07:16:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday at mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Kernel build question
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0408030715130.3630 at localhost.localdomain>
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On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, Edwin Dicker wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I only unserstand some basics of kernel compiling. I understand that the
> kernel source RPM comes with some configs for compiling the kernel. What I
> would like to know is: Is the kernel binary RPM compiled with one of the
> configs which are present in the kernel source RPM ?

on a fresh system, there's a good chance that the associated config 
file is actually in /boot, with the name config-<whatever version>. 
at least, that's a good place to start.

rday

p.s.  the 2.6 kernel comes with a config option to bury the config 
file inside the actual kernel itself.  IIRC, to get at that file, 
you'd use a utility called extract-ikconfig.




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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 13:28:48 +0200
From: Michael Schwendt <fedora at wir-sind-cool.org>
Subject: Re: mp3 splitter for linux
To: agc at member.fsf.org, For users of Fedora Core releases
	<fedora-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20040803132848.7a8fcc9a.fedora at wir-sind-cool.org>
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On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 04:54:18 -0500, Andrés González Cantú wrote:

> El mar, 03-08-2004 a las 03:56, Bruno Santos escribió:
> > Hello All. I know this is not the right place for this question, but im 
> > tired to search and i cant find anything for linux.
> > 
> > I want a program to splitt a mp3 file that i have (that is the entire 
> > album) into smaller pieces. the problem is, all the programs ive seen 
> > just allow to splitt by track time, and all the same lenght, and the 
> > tracks are not all with the same lenght.
> > 
> > can someone knows any program that allow to split, by a dead time (when 
> > the music ends there is a small time with no sound ) ???
> > 
> > cheers
> > 
> > Bruno
> > 
> 
> Dear friend,
> 
> After an rpm -q split search in Fedora Core 2, I found that the program
> isn't installed.
> 
> In my Debian GNU/Linux (Sarge) is a default command. Today, with the
> every day growing hardware capabilities it is rarely used. In the "good
> old times" (:-) it was a very useful command. 
> 
> Let us soppose that you have a very "big" .mp3 sound file of circa 4.3
> Mb and you want to transfer it from your desktop to your laptop, your

-snip-

He doesn't want to do that. He wants to split an entire album in mp3
format into multiple mp3 files, each file one track of the album.
"split" cannot do that.

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 06:29:51 -0500
From: Brian Fahrlander <brian at fahrlander.net>
Subject: Re: Is there anyway I could boot linux faster
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1091532590.9024.141.camel at aquila.kamakiriad.local>
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On Tue, 2004-08-03 at 05:33, Paul wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > What ia ma trieing to do is trining to figure out a way to start gdm
> > before most of the services. Does anyone know how to do this. Or is it
> > possibnle at all that gdm starts before lets say kudzu and all the
> > other default things that load up.
> 
> Possibly the best way (but not the easiest) is detailed on the IBM
> website
> 
> http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot.html 
> 
> It isn't easy, but it does speed things up.

    Tell me you're not dual-booting a server, are ya?  Ick!

    :)

    About a year ago, probably more, there was a lot of motion towards
making a machine boot in several seconds. But unless you're a laptop
person with power problems, etc, why would you need to?  

    The other night a friend of my daughter had a friend over. When it
got late, I was following an NIS curiosity when I got a shutdown notice.
I hadn't heard anything from my daughter, but I got out.  Turns out, the
friend figured she was going to bed, so she did a shutdown from GDM and
that turned off the power.

    I was shocked; she didn't know how to login, but she knew how to
shutdown.  The funny part was that she didn't live in a world where you
just let'em run...they get turned off every time they get up, in their
world.

    Guess I've been in Linux a really long time, now.

-- 
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Brian Fahrländer                  Christian, Conservative, and Technomad
Evansville, IN                                 http://www.fahrlander.net 
ICQ 5119262
AIM: WheelDweller
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 07:29:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday at mindspring.com>
Subject: building a 2.6 kernel
To: Fedora List <fedora-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0408030725510.3678 at localhost.localdomain>
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   to the previous post re: building a kernel, the most important 
information to remember is to move the kernel source out from under 
that silly /usr/src/linux directory and (if you have the room) to 
somewhere under your home directory.

   all the kernel config and building can be done as a regular user, 
and only needs root (or sudo) privilege to finally install it.  and as 
a bonus (this week only!), if you remove from /usr stuff that you 
normally want to hack on, you should be able to mount the /usr 
filesystem read-only for normal system operation.  (of course, you'd 
temporarily mount it RW for installing new software, but for the most 
part, normal operation should not need write access to /usr.)  think 
of it as a safety net.

rday




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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 12:35:20 +0100
From: Paul <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Is there anyway I could boot linux faster
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1091532921.2055.8.camel at T7.linux>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi,

> The funny part was that she didn't live in a world where you
> just let'em run...they get turned off every time they get up, in their
> world.

My parents and sisters are like that - they bemoan the lack of things
for Linux yet are scared senseless to use their XP boxes on broadband -
my dad even disconnects from the router if he leaves his machine for a
pee!

Me - I leave everything on all of the time. Have done for years

TTFN

Paul
(RISC OS -> Linux, lovely)
-- 
"Look. If you had one shot, one opportunity, to seize everything you
ever wanted. One moment to capture or would you just let it slip?" -
Marshall Mathers III  (Lose Yourself)
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 12:35:19 +0100
From: Douglas Furlong <douglas.furlong at firebox.com>
Subject: Re: Kernel build question
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1091532919.3173.28.camel at douglas-furlong.firebox.com>
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On Tue, 2004-08-03 at 07:16 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, Edwin Dicker wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I only unserstand some basics of kernel compiling. I understand that the
> > kernel source RPM comes with some configs for compiling the kernel. What I
> > would like to know is: Is the kernel binary RPM compiled with one of the
> > configs which are present in the kernel source RPM ?
> 
> on a fresh system, there's a good chance that the associated config 
> file is actually in /boot, with the name config-<whatever version>. 
> at least, that's a good place to start.
I believe the configuration file's in /usr/src/linux-version/configs/ are the ones
that are used to compile the kernels in the first place, so if one was
to recompile the kernel using one of those files they should have
exactly the same kernel as the one that they get when installing the
kernel RPM.
> rday
> 
> p.s.  the 2.6 kernel comes with a config option to bury the config 
> file inside the actual kernel itself.  IIRC, to get at that file, 
> you'd use a utility called extract-ikconfig.
This option has to be enabled and currently is not, it is disabled by
default due to the added size imposed when using it.


Kernel .config support (IKCONFIG)

This option enables the complete Linux kernel ".config" file
contents, information on compiler used to build the kernel,
kernel running when this kernel was built and kernel version
from Makefile to be saved in the kernel. It provides documentation
of which kernel options are used in a running kernel or in an
on-disk kernel. This information can be extracted from the kernel
image file with the script scripts/extract-ikconfig and used as
input to rebuild the current kernel or to build another kernel.
It can also be extracted from a running kernel by reading
/proc/config.gz and /proc/config_built_with, if enabled (below).
/proc/config.gz will list the configuration that was used
to build the kernel and /proc/config_built_with will list
information on the compiler and host machine that was used to
build the kernel.

And

Enable access to .config through /proc/config.gz (IKCONFIG_PROC)

This option enables access to kernel configuration file and build
information through /proc/config.gz.


These options are under "General setup" when doing an make xconfig


Hope this helps

-- 
Douglas Furlong
Systems Administrator
Firebox.com
T: 0870 420 4475        F: 0870 220 2178
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 07:37:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: "ne..." <akabi at speakeasy.net>
Subject: Re: Bigger cursor FC2
To: christianl at unete.com.bo,	For users of Fedora Core releases
	<fedora-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0408030733160.8371 at mach1.guhvies.org>
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On Aug 2, 2004 at 16:23, Christian Loza in a soothing rage wrote:

[top posting rearranged]

>On Mon, 2004-08-02 at 21:56 +0200, Dalibor Malek wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I'm trying to make a bigger cursor on FC2.
>> I'm using KDE as default.
>> I made a file in my directory and in the root directory named .
>> Xdefaults.
>> In Xdefaults I wrote 
>> Xcursor.size:   64.
>> Well this is working fine with the boot graphics and as long as the
>> KDE loading window is showing.
>> When KDE is loaded the cursor shrinks back to normal.
>> I didnÿt find anything like that in the list archive.
>> 
>> Can some one Help me?
>This is a nice icon theme. You can install it in KDE with the default
>cursor theme installer (KDE->Preferences->Control Center,
>Pheriperals->Mouse->CursorTheme->Install new theme
>
>http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=14484 
You not only top posted, you also didn't say anything
about how the OP can get his cursor loaded. And to add
insult to injury, you posted in html.

To the OP: KDE uses the script, startkde, to launch KDE.
In this script the cursor is changed. You will need to
change the startkde script to load your cursor.

N.Emile...
-- 
Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org)
Switch to: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/190653 
Wilcox's Law:
	A pat on the back is only a few centimeters from a kick in the pants.
 07:33:16  up 36 days, 48 min,  4 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00




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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 12:38:14 +0100
From: Douglas Furlong <douglas.furlong at firebox.com>
Subject: Re: Is there anyway I could boot linux faster
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1091533094.3173.31.camel at douglas-furlong.firebox.com>
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On Tue, 2004-08-03 at 12:35 +0100, Paul wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > The funny part was that she didn't live in a world where you
> > just let'em run...they get turned off every time they get up, in their
> > world.
> 
> My parents and sisters are like that - they bemoan the lack of things
> for Linux yet are scared senseless to use their XP boxes on broadband -
> my dad even disconnects from the router if he leaves his machine for a
> pee!
> 
> Me - I leave everything on all of the time. Have done for years
> 
Some people will switch off and disconnect every thing from the mains
due to fear's of lightening strikes, or household files. I can't really
criticise them for that (I'm just too lazy).

Others do it for power consumptions issues, I can't really criticise
them for that either.

-- 
Douglas Furlong
Systems Administrator
Firebox.com
T: 0870 420 4475        F: 0870 220 2178
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 12:46:10 +0100
From: John Hearns <john.hearns at clustervision.com>
Subject: Re: Is there anyway I could boot linux faster
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1091533570.6227.412.camel at vigor12>
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On Tue, 2004-08-03 at 05:56, Anindya Biswas wrote:
> What ia ma trieing to do is trining to figure out a way to start gdm
> before most of the services. Does anyone know how to do this.
There is Serel http://www.fastboot.org 

I tried it out in 2002, and it doesn't seem to have been developed
since then.





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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 12:55:34 +0100
From: Paul <paul at all-the-johnsons.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Is there anyway I could boot linux faster
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1091534134.2055.30.camel at T7.linux>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi,

> Others do it for power consumptions issues, I can't really criticise
> them for that either.

That's insane. The main power consumption on any computer is the monitor
and the drives. Switch off the monitor and the amount consumed is as
near as dammit blow all!

I worked it out once. To keep the 5 machines in my house running it
would take me about an hour of watching the TV to use the same amount of
power and how many folks leave the TV on and not be in the room with it?

TTFN

Paul

-- 
"Look. If you had one shot, one opportunity, to seize everything you
ever wanted. One moment to capture or would you just let it slip?" -
Marshall Mathers III  (Lose Yourself)
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 14:00:59 +0200 (CEST)
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike at swm.pp.se>
Subject: Re: Is there anyway I could boot linux faster
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0408031358200.7382-100000 at uplift.swm.pp.se>
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On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, Paul wrote:

> I worked it out once. To keep the 5 machines in my house running it
> would take me about an hour of watching the TV to use the same amount of
> power and how many folks leave the TV on and not be in the room with it?

A monitor uses approximately 100-150W of power. An idle computer with a
couple of drives running, uses 40-60W. A 28" TV uses 100-150W or so, so I 
doubt your values.

My values come from a power meter I have that I can plug between the 
outlet and any device, it gives current load and also meters the number of 
kW since it last was reset.

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike at swm.pp.se 




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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 13:05:44 +0100
From: James Wilkinson <james at westexe.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Is there anyway I could boot linux faster
To: fedora-list at redhat.com 
Message-ID: <20040803120544.GA4018 at howells.westexe.demon.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Anindya Biswas wrote:
> What ia ma trieing to do is trining to figure out a way to start gdm
> before most of the services. Does anyone know how to do this. Or is it
> possibnle at all that gdm starts before lets say kudzu and all the
> other default things that load up.

You know, you don't *have* to run kudzu as a service in the first place,
especially if your hardware is fairly "static" (you don't plug or unplug
things much).

Just run kudzu as root the few times when you do add anything.

Kudzu tends to take a fair bit of time in startup, and disabling it is a
very easy way to reclaim that time.

James.
-- 
E-mail address: james@ | "What kind of music do you get here, ma'am?"
westexe.demon.co.uk    | "Why, we get both kinds of music, Country and
                       | Western."




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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 14:11:19 +0200
From: "Edwin Dicker" <edwin at dicker.nl>
Subject: Re: Kernel build question
To: "For users of Fedora Core releases" <fedora-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <005101c47952$fc3fb810$0201010a at wxpedwin>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

> on a fresh system, there's a good chance that the associated config 
> file is actually in /boot, with the name config-<whatever version>. 
> at least, that's a good place to start.
> 
> rday
> 
> p.s.  the 2.6 kernel comes with a config option to bury the config 
> file inside the actual kernel itself.  IIRC, to get at that file, 
> you'd use a utility called extract-ikconfig.
> 

Thanks for the replies, this was what I was looking for.

cheers
Edwin




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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 13:16:46 +0100
From: James Wilkinson <james at westexe.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Is there anyway I could boot linux faster
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20040803121646.GB4018 at howells.westexe.demon.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
> A monitor uses approximately 100-150W of power. An idle computer with a
> couple of drives running, uses 40-60W. A 28" TV uses 100-150W or so, so I 
> doubt your values.
> 
> My values come from a power meter I have that I can plug between the 
> outlet and any device, it gives current load and also meters the number of 
> kW since it last was reset.

I suspect you have a low-power computer by today's standards. They may
not use the 250 W or 400 W indicated by the power supply (a number that
is both "theoretical" in that it can only be obtained under certain
circumstances, and fictional in that they're usually built to price, not
build quality, and the manufacturers know they're unlikely to be found
out), but thopse figures aren't always that far out.

A modern Pentium 4 CPU, on its own, will often take more than your 60 W,
and the PSUs are rarely that efficient. And of course, there are drives,
up to four or five fans, and the rest of the PC to consider.

All this only serves to illustrate your real point, of course: modern
PCs are not normally low-power devices.

James
(whose firm had to massively upgrade the air-conditioning in the server
room last year because the existing unit couldn't keep up. Most of our
servers are PC based, and we're not in a part of the world where air-
conditioning is normally needed).

-- 
E-mail address: james@ | ... and watched Richard Stallman ask one of the
westexe.demon.co.uk    | waiting staff whether the spring rolls did indeed
                       | spring and whether they would bounce.
                       |     -- Telsa Gwynne




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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 08:18:40 -0400
From: Clint Harshaw <clint at penguinsolutions.org>
Subject: Re: mp3 splitter for linux
To: agc at member.fsf.org,	For users of Fedora Core releases
	<fedora-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <410F82A0.9030703 at penguinsolutions.org>
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Andrés González Cantú wrote:
> Dear friend,
> 
> After an rpm -q split search in Fedora Core 2, I found that the program
> isn't installed.
> 
> In my Debian GNU/Linux (Sarge) is a default command. Today, with the
> every day growing hardware capabilities it is rarely used. In the "good
> old times" (:-) it was a very useful command. 

[...]

Split is indeed installed (though I don't think it addresses what the 
original poster wanted, because split uses fixed split sizes):

[charshaw at mufasa charshaw]$ rpm -q split
package split is not installed
[charshaw at mufasa charshaw]$ which split
/usr/bin/split

Clint




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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 08:31:21 -0400
From: "William W. Austin" <bill at 34.mumb.atln.nrcrgais.dsl.att.net>
Subject: ogle problem on fc2
To: fedora-list at redhat.com 
Message-ID: <20040803123121.GA32739 at 34.mumb.atln.nrcrgais.dsl.att.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; Format=Flowed; DelSp=Yes; charset=ISO-8859-1

Recently I went on vacation and my backup decided to install a few  
rpms, "catching us up" to all of the current freshrpms RPMS.  While  
this is usually not a problem, since he did that one curious problem  
occurs and I haven't been able to track it down.

While mplayer and totem can still play DVD's, ogle plays only the audio  
portion, giving a completely black screen.  An error message is printed  
out to the (tty) screen as follows:

(SNIP)
Xscreensaver not running.
No accelerated IMDCT transform found
SNDCTL_DSP_GETCHANNELMASK: Invalid argument
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- 
+display: frame rate: 0.000 fps
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
(SNIP - MORE OF SAME UNTIL I HIT A 'q' TO QUIT)
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-msg close FIX

Any suggestions on this would would be greatly appreciated - I have had  
my hands full fixing other problems (returning from vacation is the  
punishment for taking one ...) and have tried a few things with no  
luck, but at this point I don't have a clue on this one.

I tried going back to the previous rpms (built here) but the results  
were the same.  Since mplayer and totem can still play movies, this  
isn't the end of the world; but it is a little frustrating.

Thanks,
-- 
William W. Austin 			   waustin at speakeasy.net 
"Life is just a phase I'm going through... this time, anyway..."




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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 13:34:17 +0100
From: James Wilkinson <james at westexe.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Email question
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20040803123417.GC4018 at howells.westexe.demon.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Alexander Dalloz wrote:
> Second part of your mail: if you relay based on SMTP AUTH then there is
> no IP database allowed for relaying. That is the sense of SMTP AUTH.
> Anyone with a valid username/password for auth can relay through the
> MTA.

It is, of course, possible to relay based on SMTP AUTH via an MTA
running as an MSA (message *submission* agent) on port 587, as detailed
in RFC 2476.

This has the advantage that your relaying is seperated from your normal
send and receive MTA. It means you can firewall the MSA how you like (so
you can have your IP database implemented through iptables), and run
much more restrictive policies.

You can still use localhost as your smarthost, so outgoing authenticated
e-mails go through the same MTA.

James.
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 08:39:17 -0400
From: jeem machine <jmachine at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Need help with fstab config
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <5078264e040803053912628d57 at mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 18:16:45 -0500, Andrew Konosky
<terranace007 at comcast.net> wrote:
> I have 2 windows partitions I would like to mount. C is my Windows 98
> OS, so I want it read-only. D is kind of a swap drive to keep files that
> both OS's can see, such as music and games compatible in wine. I would
> like D to be RW so that users, not just root, can write to it. I googled
> to find howtos and added the fstab entries, but they are not mounting
> like I want them too.
> 
> /dev/hda1        /mnt/C            vfat    auto,user,noexec,ro    0 0
> /dev/hda5        /mnt/D            vfat    auto,user,rw    0 0
> 
> With 'user' in there, I should be able to mount and unmount them as a
> user, but it keeps saying only root can do it. Also, D is mounted as RW,
> but only root has RW and user have RO.
> 
> What else do I need to do?
> 
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Make sure the users have access to /mnt/c /mnt/d

chgrp <users>  /mnt/C mnt/D
chmod g+wr /mnt/C /mnt/D




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