Yum has screwed up my system :-(

[Robin Laing]

Axel Thimm wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 09:22:46AM -0600, Robin Laing wrote:
> 
>>I was running into problems with yum and up2date on two computers and 
>>have traced all problems to atrpms repository.  For some reasons their 
>> files don't want to work with other repositories as nice as others. 
>> I ran into this problem with many little programs on the weekend 
>>that I had to remove close to 100 atrpm packages and re-install from 
>>other repositories to clean my system.  Many won't even work nicely 
>>with the normal fedora updates.  I still have alot of sorting out to do.
>>
>>My biggest problem has been with their PHP* packages and I have 
>>submitted a bug report which has been closed but still won't work as 
>>expected.
> 
> 
> You mean
> 
> http://bugzilla.atrpms.net/show_bug.cgi?id=143
> 
> What does not work as expected? If you don't report it it won't get
> fixed.
> 
> Note: the php packages are almost genouine Fedora, in fact they are
> build from effectively the same src.rpm, only against newer libxslt.

I cannot connect to the bugzilla site at this time but my files 
indicate that this is the php problem that I submitted.  The latest 
PHP updates from fedora-updates won't install due to the 
libxsltbreakpoint dependency which is the bug that I issued.

The problem with atrpms goes deeper.  I came back from three weeks 
holidays and tried to do all the updates and install a few packages. 
  Newer packages, including those from fedora-updates were being 
stopped due to dependency problems for many packages, I don't have the 
list anymore.  Needless to say that it took many hours to update what 
should have taken minutes with yum.  I had to remove packages which 
all but one turned out to be from atrpms.  Multimedia/dvd applications 
are some of the problems.  Same problems on two different computers. 
I could have used the same notes.  It took over an hour yesterday to 
update just one set of libs as I had to remove other applications that 
were dependent on other libs that were used by other applications. 
Nice circle.

There has been discussions about different repositories and how they 
work together.  I have had faith that repositories should work well 
together and this I believe is the feeling from all users and 
developers.  If I have an application from dag and there is an update 
from fedora-updates, I should not have to worry about different 
dependencies and for that matter, it should be dealt with by yum or apt.

As I stated, this is my experience and as I seem only to have to 
remove atrpms packages to do updates or install programs, it is a 
problem.  When I get a message about a newer lib or application that I 
go to install or update and it requires me to remove and re-install 
four, five or more packages from one repository then it is a problem 
that I don't want to deal with.  This is for one application.

As stated in the subject, yum caused a problem and it has in my case. 
  My problems all seem to point to one location with yum and up2date 
as I had put atrpms in the conf files for both.

When I get time and I can connect to bugzilla I will submit a bug on 
the whole mess.  Simply, it points to how packages work with other 
repositories.  I will have to figure out how to word the issue as it 
isn't just one package application but a system.

As a suggestion to different repository operators is to run a few 
machines that do updates from different repositories to check for 
these various problems and to ensure ease of use for all users.  The 
nodeps option should not be needed.

-- 
Robin Laing